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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "AK"
Date: 23 Jul 2004 07:11:58 AM
Object: Re: OIL - a good enough reason for a costly war
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:09:51 GMT, "PBS" <pbsoftSP@Mbigpond.net.au> wrote:

Ok, so if that is the case, and lets assume it is ,
considering the dwindling world oil supplies, and the
possibility as some have suggested that the Iraqi oil supply is nearly empty
do you think it was a shrewd decision to invade Iraq?

how much oil does Iraq have?

I heard the oil wells are nearly dry
In the good old days Iraq had around 8% of the worlds supply.
is that close to accurate?


One would think that the billions of US Dollars spent on the war , if for
oil, would of been better spent

Iraq has enough oil for the next 30 years. That's good enough.
As for billions spent on war and al the mess made, remember that they didn't
expect the war to last this long. They were expecting that they would be
showered with flowers (Chalabi told them that) and war would be over in a month.
They defeated Iraqi military and took over Baghdad in less than a month.
Everything was going according to their plan, but then something went wrong,
i.e. Iraqi resistance. They never thought this would last this long.
No one would have cared about WMD (or Iraqi civilians killed) and other lies if
the war was over soon. Everything would have been forgotten by now. We would not
be even having this debate. Is anyone talking about Afghanistan anymore? No one
cares because not many Americans are dying in Afghanistan. That's all Americans
care about. And there is no oil to worry about anyway.
Neocons are not stupid nor unpatriotic. They want the US to dominate the world.
Sadam was annoying (if not a threat). Iraq has oil. The military bases in Iraq
puts pressure on Syria and Iran. The continuous supply of oil is important to
economy. China, India, North Korea, and Europe all need oil. If you have
American friendly government in oil rich countries, you can put pressure on all
these countries that need oil. All these are valid reasons in their minds for
war. But they failed to bring stability and security to Iraq. Why that happened?
Thanks to Iraqi insurgents (long live Iraqi insurgents).
They were expecting something similar to 2001 Afghan war, install a government
and move on. Afghan war boosted their confidence. They thought why not try that
in Iraq too. If the war had gone as planned, they would have been thinking about
Iran by now. But Iraq shook their confidence. I am sure it did.
.

User: "christisnotdore"

Title: Re: OIL - a good enough reason for a costly war 23 Jul 2004 11:19:35 PM
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:09:51 GMT, "PBS" <pbsoftSP@Mbigpond.net.au> wrote:

Ok, so if that is the case, and lets assume it is ,
considering the dwindling world oil supplies, and the
possibility as some have suggested that the Iraqi oil supply is nearly
empty
do you think it was a shrewd decision to invade Iraq?

how much oil does Iraq have?

I heard the oil wells are nearly dry
In the good old days Iraq had around 8% of the worlds supply.
is that close to accurate?


One would think that the billions of US Dollars spent on the war , if for
oil, would of been better spent


Iraq has enough oil for the next 30 years. That's good enough.

As for billions spent on war and al the mess made, remember that they
didn't
expect the war to last this long. They were expecting that they would be
showered with flowers (Chalabi told them that) and war would be over in a
month.
They defeated Iraqi military and took over Baghdad in less than a month.
Everything was going according to their plan, but then something went
wrong,
i.e. Iraqi resistance. They never thought this would last this long.


Do you have your own opinions as to why this happened?
I'd be interested to read them.

I think, it was the disrespect and humility the Iraqis had to endure
I believe that an Arab man, in this case an Iraqi man, esp. one who has a
family , holds up honour
and respect more than he does his own life.

I read recently that an influential Iraqi tribal leader was quoted saying
that
it would be better to shoot our woman dead than for them to be taken for
interrogation by
the US/coalition.

The leaders responsible for the occupation of Iraq were not very
well-informed. Look at how much trouble the Israelis have had with the
Palestinians. That should have been a clue that Arab resistance could
be tough. As one US general stated, the militants hide behind women
and children.
Now the Iraqi militants are choosing soft targets. That seems
difficult to prevent, and the news indicates more incidents daily in
recent times.
Afghanistan was and is a different matter. Power has been shared with
the Northern Alliance. It's an uneasy partnership and elections are
coming up soon. Also Pakistan's leader and the ISI are helping against
the Taliban resisters and al Qaeda. AK is more informed than me on
these matters though.
.


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