On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, wrote:
http://picasaweb.google.com/vtcapo/NewAlbum814071042AM
Hopefully this will work and the photos are visible ....
Poltergeist caught on digital camera in my barn in Vermont. From top
to bottom notice what appears to be a double exposure around the
window and tire area, however, the rest of the picture is in focus.
Also note how her arm and buttocks are obscured by what appears to be
ectoplasm. Any photo experts out there? Your input would be
appreciated.
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Impressive photo, but you'll need to post the full-resolution
original with complete information on the camera, make, model
etc., and what camera settings were in use at the time. The
specifications and instruction manual for any modern digital
camera are typically available on the manufacturer's website.
Have you tried capturing EVPs on the property? Have you had
any personal experiences which have convinced you that the
property is definitely haunted, whether active or residual?
Have you ever held seances at that location? Try it sometime...
Also, provide more information about the scene of the photo in
question, and any prior reports of any haunting activity which
might bolster your claim that this is an authentic, untouched
photograph, and not something else. Had you even suspected that
your "barn in Vermont" is haunted? How long has the barn been
there? Who built it? Is there anything historically about the
property, upon which the barn sits, which might lend itself to
the haunting, e.g. murder scene, battlefield, buried bodies of
victims etc.? If it is haunted, whose ghost(s) is doing it and
why? Are their souls in visitation, or grounded? Perhaps more
importantly, are they friendly or hostile? And what about *you*,
and those who live with you on the property? Are *you* haunted
or being stalked by a soul who has, as renowned psychic medium
Derek Acorah puts it, "picked their mark"? A lot to think about...
While we know (humble people, that is) that ghosts are perfectly
real and perfectly commonplace, we also know that hoaxes or else
misidentified, misconstrued "rational" explanations for apparent
phenomena also occur, albeit deliberate hoaxes are considerably
less common than the real McCoy, or naive misinterpretations of
what potential paranormal evidence is being objectively analyzed.
The thumb-nail does look compelling. It would be nice to get more
information about it, as well as to carefully examine the original,
full-sized digital photograph, hopefully of multi-megapixel clarity.
Sincerely,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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16 Aug 2007 02:40:31 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:40 pm, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, wrote:
http://picasaweb.google.com/vtcapo/NewAlbum814071042AM
Hopefully this will work and the photos are visible ....
Poltergeist caught on digital camera in my barn in Vermont. From top
to bottom notice what appears to be a double exposure around the
window and tire area, however, the rest of the picture is in focus.
Also note how her arm and buttocks are obscured by what appears to be
ectoplasm. Any photo experts out there? Your input would be
appreciated.
Impressive photo, but you'll need to post the full-resolution
original with complete information on the camera, make, model
etc., and what camera settings were in use at the time. The
specifications and instruction manual for any modern digital
camera are typically available on the manufacturer's website.
Have you tried capturing EVPs on the property? Have you had
any personal experiences which have convinced you that the
property is definitely haunted, whether active or residual?
Have you ever held seances at that location? Try it sometime...
Also, provide more information about the scene of the photo in
question, and any prior reports of any haunting activity which
might bolster your claim that this is an authentic, untouched
photograph, and not something else. Had you even suspected that
your "barn in Vermont" is haunted? How long has the barn been
there? Who built it? Is there anything historically about the
property, upon which the barn sits, which might lend itself to
the haunting, e.g. murder scene, battlefield, buried bodies of
victims etc.? If it is haunted, whose ghost(s) is doing it and
why? Are their souls in visitation, or grounded? Perhaps more
importantly, are they friendly or hostile? And what about *you*,
and those who live with you on the property? Are *you* haunted
or being stalked by a soul who has, as renowned psychic medium
Derek Acorah puts it, "picked their mark"? A lot to think about...
While we know (humble people, that is) that ghosts are perfectly
real and perfectly commonplace, we also know that hoaxes or else
misidentified, misconstrued "rational" explanations for apparent
phenomena also occur, albeit deliberate hoaxes are considerably
less common than the real McCoy, or naive misinterpretations of
what potential paranormal evidence is being objectively analyzed.
The thumb-nail does look compelling. It would be nice to get more
information about it, as well as to carefully examine the original,
full-sized digital photograph, hopefully of multi-megapixel clarity.
Min,
Still waiting on your thoughts concerning the possibility that the
apparition is an elemental. The pencil heads in this group are long
on book knownlege, short on experience and can't fathom the possibilty
that this is real. If you were to assume the photos to be authentic.
Based on what I posted and the events happening on the property, how
would you classify the entity, discarnate spirit or an elemental using
what Hans Holzer refers to as a "shell", ghostly imprints left over
from events.
Sincerely,
RT
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Thank you for posting the higher-resolution photos, and I
hope you'll forgive my cross-posting this to other groups
(the naysayers need a kick in their fat bloated derrieres).
I was hoping for 250k+ jpg's, but the 25k's are convincing,
especially in the context of three consecutive photographs.
I'm not an expert in digital photography, but I do know a
little about ghosts and hauntings. I'm fairly clair-voyant
& -audient, but I am not a psychic medium. Enough about me...
I've read your subsequent explanations regarding the photos,
to wit, that your niece took these photos "of a girl friend,
seconds apart", that you "bought the property 7 years ago",
that you & yours spend your "summer vacations there", etc:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/browse_thread/thread/eee2f457ff6b1fe7/6b9bc7840cff44a5#6b9bc7840cff44a5
My first impression of the initial 5k thumbnail photos was
that they are authentic and untouched, mainly owing to the
final frame which distinctively shows a ghostly apparition,
or, if not, then a truly inexplicable photographic anomaly.
Having examined the three higher-resolution photos one by
one, which you stated in another reply were captured on a
"cheapo! Kodak Easyshare Model CX7430", as specified here:
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-locale=en_US&pq-path=1834:
I would offer these comments. Starting with the first frame:
http://picasaweb.google.com/vtcapo/NewAlbum814071042AM/photo#5098677663690461938
Assuming all default, "auto" camera settings, with the sun-
saturated light in the window, reflecting off the top tire,
and no camera tripod, but hand-held by fairly steady hands,
mz-auto-focus favors the vertical right side of this frame.
The white balance appears good. The blurred halo effect on
the window and tire appears exaggerated by a slight motion
blur on the whole left side of the frame, while minimizing
the same motion blur on the focused area in the whole right
side of the frame, a function of camera's basic electronics.
In the second frame, the motion blur is far more pronounced:
http://picasaweb.google.com/vtcapo/NewAlbum814071042AM/photo#5098677667985429250
The halo effect is proportionately more exaggerated, and the
entire picture shows it. This blur and halo effect initially
led me to suspect that the third and final frame which shows
your poltergeistesque anomaly is likely attributable to some
auto-compensation or adjustment in the camera's electronics.
The third frame was apparently taken a step or two closer to
the subject, assuming your niece didn't use the optical zoom:
http://picasaweb.google.com/vtcapo/NewAlbum814071042AM/photo#5098677672280396562
The mz-auto-focus appears to be more balanced across the frame,
with only the girl's presumably moving arm appearing blurred.
While I'm no expert in photography, I have taken more than a
few pictures using various digital cameras. I've seen plenty
of sun-backlit photos with halos, but none that produced the
wispy, yet well-defined lines that *clearly* cut in front of
the background elements of the photograph. For example, note
the definitive diagonal lines at the very bottom-left of the
frame. Compare these with the far brighter and defined bands
of light appearing to "emanate" at impossible angles from the
window. Thus the corresponding luminosity of the softer lines
near the reflected sunlight off the tire, versus the brighter
bands off the window, this comparison suggests that the light
which is either illuminating, or else is producing, these odd
curving lines, and bands, is coming from the sunlight blazing
through the window, and its reflection bouncing off the tire.
This observation and deduction infers one of two conclusions:
1) The sunlight is illuminating something clearly unaccounted
for in the photo, thus is most likely a paranormal apparition,
especially in the context of the reported haunting activities.
The apparition is only visible in the photograph because the
sunlight is illuminating it. Otherwise, you would not see it,
at least not in the bright daylight. Could it be ectoplasmic?
Sure it could. In fact, I would submit that the fact that the
sunlight is illuminating it, therefore it can be nothing else.
Ectoplasmic apparitions caught on camera are definitive proof
an active haunting. Who, or what, is doing the haunting, that
is another matter. To me, "active" entails more who than what.
Or,
2) The sunlight is actually producing the anomalous lines and
bands, and although you & yours are sure the place is haunted,
some other, relatively mundane "scientific" explanation is in
order. The luminosity of the bands and lines to corresponding
more-direct and softly-reflected sunlight, respectively, that
fact alone strongly suggests that this simpler explanation is
worth further investigation--you know "occam's razor" and all.
By this, that's not to imply the place isn't haunted big time.
But only narrowly, ad hoc, I suggest that these photos aren't
necessarily evidentiary of the aforesaid neither are they not.
That's what is known in the business as inconclusive, a "wash".
I'm only an amateur ghost hunter, but based on my experience,
it is easier to capture audio evidence than it is to capture
visual evidence. To date, out of many hundreds of attempts, I
have only captured about a dozen unmistakably-paranormal EVPs.
I've got several dozen more that are inconclusive, but those
few which are definitive have made it all worth while for me.
You see, while I have the confidence of Apollo in our psychic
ability i.e. in that of *all* sentient beings, skeptic or not,
by stark contrast I'm extremely skeptical of alleged physical
evidence of the same. That said, I'm very much inclined to go
with my first impression of things, it usually being the most
lasting. My first impression of your anomalous photo was that
it is of an ectoplasmic apparition, and that you were not new
to the haunting experience--quite far from it, as I'd queried.
Again, human beings are haunted as much as places, all of the
same "dust", biblically-speaking, the exchange of energy, etc.
In closing, your photos *clearly* merit further investigation.
Perhaps searching the internet for "sunlight" and "ectoplasm":
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=sunlight+ectoplasm&hl=en&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
Hope that helps,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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