"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans le message
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus, 8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical intervention by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in 'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just need to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one day is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10, 96 is
telling about its end.
Rino
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus, 8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just need
to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10, 96
is
telling about its end.
Rino
VIII. 96.
La Synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receuë entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
I would interpret is thusly:
The sterile synagogue (of the Jews, Isreal) without any fruit
Will be received by the Infidels (the Christians) of Babylon (USA)
The daughter of the Pursuit (of Life, Liberty and Happiness)
Misery and Sadness her wings (of the Eagle, Liberty) will be clipped.
cesar
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus,
8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical
intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be
about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the
daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just
need
to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from
the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10,
96
is
telling about its end.
Rino
VIII. 96.
La Synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receuë entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
I would interpret is thusly:
The sterile synagogue (of the Jews, Isreal) without any fruit
Will be received by the Infidels (the Christians) of Babylon (USA)
The daughter of the Pursuit (of Life, Liberty and Happiness)
Misery and Sadness her wings (of the Eagle, Liberty) will be clipped.
cesar
You need to go back to school!
Rino
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus,
8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical
intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be
about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the
daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just
need
to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from
the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one
day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10,
96
is
telling about its end.
Rino
VIII. 96.
La Synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receuë entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
I would interpret is thusly:
The sterile synagogue (of the Jews, Isreal) without any fruit
Will be received by the Infidels (the Christians) of Babylon (USA)
The daughter of the Pursuit (of Life, Liberty and Happiness)
Misery and Sadness her wings (of the Eagle, Liberty) will be clipped.
cesar
You need to go back to school!
Rino
Hehe
It would seriously take a school, well, a University chair, say, for
Nostradamian studies, eventually, when the world will start to see it
our way, Rino...
Maybe we think about it for Quebec universities?
J.
If we could have some recognition, it would be possible to have this new domain
in a faculty optimize its curriculum by getting Universities resources to
achieve, within research protocols, with the participation of so many different
departments, a picture of the quatrains in a multimediatic dimension which would
give a panorama of the basic description, and see from the different
interpretations there are in the world what is the common denominator, either
location or time frame, and any category of detail can be put in the equation,
so as to achieve the picture of the events which has already happened, or for
those still in the future, of a potential outcome, with common ground.
Once this identified, this association of quatrain could also then be paired
with those similar common ground and the illustration of the moment describes
can be proposed as a virtual reality challenge.
Imagine, this could be to the cultural just what the human genome is to the
scientific...
J.
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03 Apr 2004 11:44:55 AM |
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Rino a écrit:
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"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans le
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus,
8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical
intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be
about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the
daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just
need
to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from
the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10,
96
is
telling about its end.
Rino
VIII. 96.
La Synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receuë entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
I would interpret is thusly:
The sterile synagogue (of the Jews, Isreal) without any fruit
Will be received by the Infidels (the Christians) of Babylon (USA)
The daughter of the Pursuit (of Life, Liberty and Happiness)
Misery and Sadness her wings (of the Eagle, Liberty) will be clipped.
cesar
You need to go back to school!
Rino
Hehe
It would seriously take a school, well, a University chair, say, for
Nostradamian studies, eventually, when the world will start to see it our way,
Rino...
Maybe we think about it for Quebec universities?
J.
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"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans le
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus, 8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just need
to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10, 96
is
telling about its end.
Rino
VIII. 96.
La Synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receuë entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
I would interpret is thusly:
The sterile synagogue (of the Jews, Isreal) without any fruit
Will be received by the Infidels (the Christians) of Babylon (USA)
The daughter of the Pursuit (of Life, Liberty and Happiness)
Misery and Sadness her wings (of the Eagle, Liberty) will be clipped.
Once again, cesar/tyk demonstrates his glaring lack of objectivity and
discernment as he blatantly attacks the peoples he hates the most.
Give it up, tyk, you just dont get it, never have and never will.
S~
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03 Apr 2004 11:38:30 AM |
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Rino a écrit:
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans le message
news: 406AD2BF.9EC0ED18@worldnet.att.net...
Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus, 8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical intervention by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in 'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
I don't think this happened, Israel has never been accepted by the others
neighbors, like the quatrain prophecizes, as of yet...
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just need to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one day is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
Interesting interpretation...
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10, 96 is
telling about its end.
And then what would Alef and Alef stand for?
J.
Rino
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03 Apr 2004 05:29:07 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> a écrit dans le message news:
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Rino a écrit:
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans le
message
news: 406AD2BF.9EC0ED18@worldnet.att.net...
Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus, 8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
I don't think this happened, Israel has never been accepted by the others
neighbors, like the quatrain prophecizes, as of yet...
Received has different ways of accomplishment
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just
need to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from
the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
Interesting interpretation...
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10,
96 is
telling about its end.
And then what would Alef and Alef stand for?
J.
ALEF is the first letter of the Hebrew's alphabet
ALEF is a cardinal number which is the power of a whole body (in French, I
say; Nombre cardinal caracterisant la puissance d'un ensemble)
Rino
Rino
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus,
8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the
daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
I don't think this happened, Israel has never been accepted by the
others
neighbors, like the quatrain prophecizes, as of yet...
Received has different ways of accomplishment
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just
need to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from
the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one
day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
Interesting interpretation...
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10,
96 is
telling about its end.
And then what would Alef and Alef stand for?
J.
ALEF is the first letter of the Hebrew's alphabet
ALEF is a cardinal number which is the power of a whole body (in French, I
say; Nombre cardinal caracterisant la puissance d'un ensemble)
Sorry Jean! I wrote this word as you did. It should be ALEPH and it can be
found in any good French dictionary.
As for the word ADALUNCATIF. I cut it in two ADA and LUNCATIF
ADA for ADAD; son of Ismael
LUNCATIF ( LUNE; the Moon) In regard to the Moon.
Rino
Rino
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"Rino" <rinomailloux@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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And then what would Alef and Alef stand for?
Alef stands for Numero Uno. The Number 1. Therefore, Alef & Alef means
11. The Twin Towers. Flight 11. AA American Airlines.
ALEF is the first letter of the Hebrew's alphabet
Sorry Jean! I wrote this word as you did. It should be ALEPH and it can be
found in any good French dictionary.
As for the word ADALUNCATIF. I cut it in two ADA and LUNCATIF
ADA for ADAD; son of Ismael
LUNCATIF ( LUNE; the Moon) In regard to the Moon.
Still, Adaluncatif is a strange word, begging for a second meaning as an
ANAGRAM.
ADALUNCATIF = CANADA L' FUIT = Canada the Place of Escape (Place of Refuge)
cesar
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And then what would Alef and Alef stand for?
Alef stands for Numero Uno. The Number 1. Therefore, Alef & Alef means
11. The Twin Towers. Flight 11. AA American Airlines.
ALEF is the first letter of the Hebrew's alphabet
Sorry Jean! I wrote this word as you did. It should be ALEPH and it can
be
found in any good French dictionary.
As for the word ADALUNCATIF. I cut it in two ADA and LUNCATIF
ADA for ADAD; son of Ismael
LUNCATIF ( LUNE; the Moon) In regard to the Moon.
Still, Adaluncatif is a strange word, begging for a second meaning as an
ANAGRAM.
ADALUNCATIF = CANADA L' FUIT = Canada the Place of Escape (Place of
Refuge)
cesar
It seems like the school did something good to you.
The given anagram deserves to be looked at!
But, the last part of the line would be: " son of Canada l'fuit" ???
Rino
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And then what would Alef and Alef stand for?
Alef stands for Numero Uno. The Number 1. Therefore, Alef & Alef means
11. The Twin Towers. Flight 11. AA American Airlines.
ALEF is the first letter of the Hebrew's alphabet
Sorry Jean! I wrote this word as you did. It should be ALEPH and it
can
be
found in any good French dictionary.
As for the word ADALUNCATIF. I cut it in two ADA and LUNCATIF
ADA for ADAD; son of Ismael
LUNCATIF ( LUNE; the Moon) In regard to the Moon.
Still, Adaluncatif is a strange word, begging for a second meaning as an
ANAGRAM.
ADALUNCATIF = CANADA L' FUIT = Canada the Place of Escape (Place of
Refuge)
cesar
It seems like the school did something good to you.
The given anagram deserves to be looked at!
But, the last part of the line would be: " son of Canada l'fuit" ???
Rino
The "son" of Canada would be the USA. The Northwest Passage was the route
that led to the settlement in the US heartland. Anyways, it is pretty
obvious that when they announce the MicroChipping of U.S. residents or the
Draft to replace the shortage of military personnel when they start the
invasion of the Middle East, you can bet that millions of Americans will
escape into Canada. Then Canada itself will be invaded by the Americans and
everyone will have to spread out into the vast wilderness of the Northwest
Territories. If the U.S. had enough troops to round them up, they wouldn't
need them for the War in the first place. But since they don't they will
try to kill the escapees by plagues, by poisons, by controlling the weather
even? (Nostradamus: Longue Pluye) and by any other means that cannot be
achieved by shooting them or bombing them. Hence, they will use EMF weapons
that will destroy anything electronic should they try to generate their own
electricity by wind power, for example. One must be prepared to live
completely without technology, just like the peoples of the First Nations
did for thousands of years until the White Man came and ruined it for them.
This is the war of believers in Christ and the God of Heaven versus the
followers of the God of the Earth and Satan. If anyone should die, there
will not be reincarnation for these noble people but their reward will be
eternal life in Heaven.
14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and
they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and
whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 14:12 Here is the patience of
the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith
of Jesus. 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write,
Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the
Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow
them.
cesar
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04 Apr 2004 04:25:59 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:25:11 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote about
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-------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. ------------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
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--------------------------- X C V I. -------------------------
--------- Religion du nom des mers vaincra, ------------------
--------- Contre la secte fils Adaluncatif, ------------------
--------- Secte obstinee deploree craindra, ------------------
--------- Des deux blessez par Aleph & Aleph. ----------------
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Still, Adaluncatif is a strange word, begging for a second meaning as an
ANAGRAM.
ADALUNCATIF = CANADA L' FUIT = Canada the Place of Escape (Place of Refuge)
cesar
*
Hmmm, your translation betrays your anagram. CANADA L' FUIT is
pure nonsense. Your translation makes sense. Therefore your
translation is false. (I remember a certain Lemesurier who took
meaningful gobbledygook from Nostradamus and made it in English
something quite different and which made sense.) Back to X-96.
*
The word "Adaluncatif" is indeed very strange. Not only does it
suggest an anagram, but it ought to suggest that the entire line
which contains it *is* a cryptic anagram. As an additional clue
to this, Nostradamus did not make it rhyme properly, although its
'f' sound ends like "Aleph", but it does not end like "Aleph". To
make it end properly, he would have had to either write
"Adaluncatiph", or to write "Alef". But even then, "-tif" does
not rhyme with "-lef".
*
And had he written his "Aleph & Aleph" as "Alef & Alef", he would
not have been able to write the expression "Ha! Ha!", which is
hidden in that line.
*
How do I know? Because in 1996 I have decyphered the text, its
four lines yielding four cryptic anagrams, as follows:
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--------- « Michel Nostradamus !__Vng idiot de ---------------
--------- ce Canada a escript vn liure si fol, ---------------
--------- car », dira Toronto, « il espère bien des ----------
--------- dollars de ce rude texte, pas des Ha !__Ha ! » -----
*
See how he did it? In his hidden prose, he often makes things
speak. Here, he makes Toronto speak to him, saying (with
asterisks indicating words no longer used or spelled thus):
'Michel Nostradamus! *An* idiot fron this Canada has *written*
such a *foolish* *book*, as -- shall say Toronto -- he expects
lots of dollars fron this rude text, not lots of Ha! Ha!s.' And
that's why "Adaluncatif" does not rhyme with "Aleph".
*
Clever, eh, this Nostradamus?!
*
Claude Latrémouille
http://www.torfree.net/~claudel
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=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
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C L A U D E L A T R E M O U I L L E
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Rino a écrit:
"Rino" <rinomailloux@videotron.ca> a écrit dans le message news:
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"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans le
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Jean Guernon wrote:
snippage
In fact there is a quatrain that concerns Israel by Nostradamus,
8,96,
which
speaks of Iraq intervening there, not even clear who gets the
apprehend,
but
obviously, we are very far from this type of strategical intervention
by
Iraq,
which hopefully will become a model of democracy, instead of being a
model of
oppression.
http://www.propheties.it/no/ottava%20centuria/c8q96.htm
The sterile synagogue without any fruit,
will be received by the infidels,
the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad, they will clip her wings.
What it says for sure in the first wo lines is that Israel will be
accepted by
the Muslim world.
But then, it speaks of the daughter of the pursued (it is a bad
translation
there, it is not persecuted, but pursued, could be Saddam, or still
could be
about the history since 1000 almost BC between the Jews and the
Babylonians... I
won't get into that but to conclude that either way it would be about
the new
Iraq. The new government that will emerge there would be the
daughter.
Now what
the last line means is subject to interpretation. Will it be Israel
that
will
clip the wing of the new Iraq, or could it be the other way around?
It could be a reference to Saddam's actual daughter, currently in
'exile'
in Jordan.
She's been in the nooz lately, trying to rabble rouse for 'Dear old
Dad'.
Maybe
Jordan is soon to curtail her political activities, 'clip her wings'.
Charly
If you will look at this quatrain carefully, you will find that
Nostradamus
is using entities to tell about a nation (synagogue).
It is right to say that this nation is Israel, born in 1948, received
among
its enemies, the Barbarians (infideles)
I don't think this happened, Israel has never been accepted by the
others
neighbors, like the quatrain prophecizes, as of yet...
Received has different ways of accomplishment
Israel is also the daughter of Babylon (the second entity). You just
need to
recall the story of Esther from the book of the Old Testament.
The persued one, or the persecuted one is also the Jewish nation from
the
time of Babylon to our time. Her life was miserable and sad, but one
day
is
coming when she will cut the wings of its enemy.
Interesting interpretation...
(Out of this quatrain) Israel had the promise of a future glory. Q.10,
96 is
telling about its end.
And then what would Alef and Alef stand for?
J.
ALEF is the first letter of the Hebrew's alphabet
ALEF is a cardinal number which is the power of a whole body (in French, I
say; Nombre cardinal caracterisant la puissance d'un ensemble)
Sorry Jean! I wrote this word as you did. It should be ALEPH and it can be
found in any good French dictionary.
I know what aleph is in the dictionary. I just don't see how this can quatrain
relate to what you say.
As for the word ADALUNCATIF. I cut it in two ADA and LUNCATIF
ADA for ADAD; son of Ismael
LUNCATIF ( LUNE; the Moon) In regard to the Moon.
Yikes. Ada for adad? You scare me. You sound like Claude. jeez. He would have
made up a word with Adad and what? luncatif? Lunatic, but luncatif? From the
moon?!! Where on earth do you find this.
Who is "religion of the name of the seas"?
But let's assume this for one moment and I gather you mean aleph=jews?: Now, how
can this (i.e. in the quatrain it says "Aleph and Aleph" be the ones who will
injure two, so as to make the others fearful), mean they will be defeated?
J.
Rino
Rino
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