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User: "MonsieurStat"
Date: 21 Dec 2004 11:19:49 PM
Object: Re: Sharia Court is a go! Sad day for Ontario!
I told you, Canada will soon be an Islamic State. Let's all have a drink to
that :-)
Stat.
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Dec. 21, 2004. 06:49 AM

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BERNARD WEIL/TORONTO STAR
Tarek Fatah of the Muslim Canadian Congress talks to
reporters at Queen's Park yesterday, saying a proposal to allow the use of
Islamic principles in resolving family disputes would hurt women.

STAR COLUMNISTS

Miro Cernetig


Graham Fraser


Richard Gwyn


Stephen Handelman


Chantal Hebert


James Travers


Ian Urquhart


Thomas Walkom




Report called 'betrayal' of women
Proposal backs use of Islamic principles in settling disputes
Ontario heading in 'dangerous direction,' opponents say


CAROLINE MALLAN
QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU CHIEF

A proposal to allow the use of Islamic principles in settling family
disputes in Ontario has been met with outrage by opponents of the plan.

Former NDP attorney-general Marion Boyd made the recommendation
yesterday in a 150-page report in which she also called for new safeguards
to protect the rights of women.

But she ultimately concluded that "Muslim principles" should be
considered an acceptable method of religious arbitration as long as they
do
not violate Canadian law.

Boyd was asked by the provincial government to review the 1991
Arbitration Act and assess whether a plan by the Islamic Institute for
Civil
Justice to use the guiding principles of their faith in settling marital
and
inheritance disputes should be halted.

Catholics and Jews already have made use of the act, which is
intended
as a way of avoiding costly court fights when both parties to a dispute
agree to do so. A divorcing couple could use the act to decide on a
division
of property, for example.

Opponents were quick to condemn Boyd's report, calling it "naive" and
a betrayal of women.

Marilou McPhedran, counsel for the Canadian Council of Muslim Women,
labelled Boyd's report "naive" in its assumptions that Muslim women would
have the same choices as other women.

McPhedran said many women who could be affected are recent immigrants
who might not speak English and are not given a true choice in how a
divorce
might be settled.

"This is a dangerous direction. It is the thin edge of the wedge.
This
has to be stopped now," she said.

Tarek Fatah of the Muslim Canadian Congress said Boyd has lent
credibility to a system of law that has disadvantaged women in Muslim
countries for centuries.

"Marion Boyd today has given legitimacy and credibility to the
right-wing racists who fundamentally are against equal rights for men and
women," Fatah said of the endorsement of some form of sharia law.

"The proponents of sharia in Canada are not concerned about family
law, they are concerned about bringing justification for introducing
sharia
and legitimizing it."

But Boyd repeatedly stressed that the term "sharia" is not what is
being proposed by the Islamic Institute for Civil Justice, adding the
1,400-year-old set of rules and laws covers criminal and civil matters and
is often incompatible with Canadian law.

"We're being very clear, this is not sharia law," Boyd told a news
conference. "This is Muslim religious principles within Canadian law."

But, she conceded, in all cases of arbitration, whether religious or
not, it is up to the people involved to stand up for their own rights.
"It's
a bit of consumer beware that I think is very real in this area."

Boyd also said in an interview later, "I'm not naïve enough to think
this is the end of it."

Although some critics are firmly opposed to the use of the
Arbitration
Act by any religious group, she said she couldn't "in good conscience"
tell
the government to end it because "it would set back family law by 30
years."

But anyone who interprets the report as giving priority to
multiculturalism over female equality is "misreading" it: "It's a
recognition that (sharia arbitrations) are already happening - the first
one
here was in 1982. But there is no way to scrutinize them.

"If they stay underground, Muslim women will be more vulnerable."

Boyd also told the news conference she believes strengthening the
existing system of arbitration, including mandating domestic violence
awareness training for arbitrators, will help reduce the number of
informal,
religious-based family dispute resolutions that happen without any
oversight.

Critics of any use of sharia law in Canada point to examples of what
some Muslim societies consider to be acceptable levels of spousal support
when a marriage ends - anywhere from three months to a year's worth of
support - compared to a Canadian norm of much more long-term support for a
former spouse and children.

"I think Boyd made up her mind before she even started because she
hasn't taken into consideration anything we said. It's like she didn't
hear
us," said Alia Hogben, executive director of the 900-member Canadian
Council
of Muslim Women.

Boyd's report recommends a greater right of appeal for arbitrations,
but puts the onus on Muslim women to take that step, said Hogben, "but how
would many women have the wherewithal to do that?"

"We just hope that the attorney-general freezes the report until a
proper investigation is done," said Homa Arjomand, head of the
International
Campaign to Stop Sharia Courts in Canada.

The campaign argued that while, technically, Muslim women will have
access to Canadian laws and court, and the legal system will undoubtedly
reject oppressive decisions, "the reality is that most women (will) be
coerced socially, economically or psychologically" into participating in
sharia tribunals.

Boyd's report calls on arbitrators to affirm that they have
interviewed the couple in dispute separately to determine that both
parties
are participating of their own free will and to rule out any possible
domestic violence issues.

All of the groups opposed to any use of sharia said they will
aggressively press the Liberal government and Attorney-General Michael
Bryant to reject Boyd's findings and put an end to arbitrations that rely
on
Muslim laws.

But Syed Mumtaz Ali, a lawyer for the Islamic Institute for Civil
Justice, said he was "delighted" with Boyd's findings and added that many
of
the 46 recommendations for strengthening the Arbitration Act came from
him.

"It's a model for the whole world to see how sharia law can be used
in
a Western society," Mumtaz Ali said in an interview. He added that while
sharia is a misnomer in terms of the type of family disputes at issue, he
said it is the term most people recognize and associate with Muslim
beliefs
being applied through the law.

Mumtaz Ali said Muslim principles require Muslims to believe in one
God and to commit to obeying the law in the country where they live. He
said
the advantage of sharia-type arbitration is that participants are
compelled
by their religious beliefs to uphold the law, an extra onus that will make
for fair treatment of all parties in the dispute.

"Canadian laws prevail, sharia law takes a backseat," he said of the
plan he envisions for arbitration.

He said many people in the community are anxious to proceed with
sharia-based arbitration and plans have been in limbo awaiting Boyd's
report.

Len Rudner of the Canadian Jewish Congress said the group felt Boyd
struck a fair balance between the needs of the individuals and those of
the
community. "She appears to have done a good job of that," he said.

with files from Lynda Hurst




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User: "Jane"

Title: Re: Sharia Court is a go! Sad day for Ontario! 23 Dec 2004 09:33:11 AM
"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Vt7yd.10220$Z%3.607018@news20.bellglobal.com...

I told you, Canada will soon be an Islamic State. Let's all have a drink

to

that :-)
Stat.

Non-alcoholic, no doubt...why bother? What's a toast without champagne?
BTW, how will you keep gov't finances afloat with no gambling revenue?
Jane


"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sm7yd.14778$GK5.1072621@news20.bellglobal.com...

Dec. 21, 2004. 06:49 AM

ADVERTISEMENT<




BERNARD WEIL/TORONTO STAR
Tarek Fatah of the Muslim Canadian Congress talks to
reporters at Queen's Park yesterday, saying a proposal to allow the use

of

Islamic principles in resolving family disputes would hurt women.

STAR COLUMNISTS

Miro Cernetig


Graham Fraser


Richard Gwyn


Stephen Handelman


Chantal Hebert


James Travers


Ian Urquhart


Thomas Walkom




Report called 'betrayal' of women
Proposal backs use of Islamic principles in settling disputes
Ontario heading in 'dangerous direction,' opponents say


CAROLINE MALLAN
QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU CHIEF

A proposal to allow the use of Islamic principles in settling

family

disputes in Ontario has been met with outrage by opponents of the plan.

Former NDP attorney-general Marion Boyd made the recommendation
yesterday in a 150-page report in which she also called for new

safeguards

to protect the rights of women.

But she ultimately concluded that "Muslim principles" should be
considered an acceptable method of religious arbitration as long as they
do
not violate Canadian law.

Boyd was asked by the provincial government to review the 1991
Arbitration Act and assess whether a plan by the Islamic Institute for
Civil
Justice to use the guiding principles of their faith in settling marital
and
inheritance disputes should be halted.

Catholics and Jews already have made use of the act, which is
intended
as a way of avoiding costly court fights when both parties to a dispute
agree to do so. A divorcing couple could use the act to decide on a
division
of property, for example.

Opponents were quick to condemn Boyd's report, calling it "naive"

and

a betrayal of women.

Marilou McPhedran, counsel for the Canadian Council of Muslim

Women,

labelled Boyd's report "naive" in its assumptions that Muslim women

would

have the same choices as other women.

McPhedran said many women who could be affected are recent

immigrants

who might not speak English and are not given a true choice in how a
divorce
might be settled.

"This is a dangerous direction. It is the thin edge of the wedge.
This
has to be stopped now," she said.

Tarek Fatah of the Muslim Canadian Congress said Boyd has lent
credibility to a system of law that has disadvantaged women in Muslim
countries for centuries.

"Marion Boyd today has given legitimacy and credibility to the
right-wing racists who fundamentally are against equal rights for men

and

women," Fatah said of the endorsement of some form of sharia law.

"The proponents of sharia in Canada are not concerned about family
law, they are concerned about bringing justification for introducing
sharia
and legitimizing it."

But Boyd repeatedly stressed that the term "sharia" is not what is
being proposed by the Islamic Institute for Civil Justice, adding the
1,400-year-old set of rules and laws covers criminal and civil matters

and

is often incompatible with Canadian law.

"We're being very clear, this is not sharia law," Boyd told a news
conference. "This is Muslim religious principles within Canadian law."

But, she conceded, in all cases of arbitration, whether religious

or

not, it is up to the people involved to stand up for their own rights.
"It's
a bit of consumer beware that I think is very real in this area."

Boyd also said in an interview later, "I'm not naïve enough to

think

this is the end of it."

Although some critics are firmly opposed to the use of the
Arbitration
Act by any religious group, she said she couldn't "in good conscience"
tell
the government to end it because "it would set back family law by 30
years."

But anyone who interprets the report as giving priority to
multiculturalism over female equality is "misreading" it: "It's a
recognition that (sharia arbitrations) are already happening - the first
one
here was in 1982. But there is no way to scrutinize them.

"If they stay underground, Muslim women will be more vulnerable."

Boyd also told the news conference she believes strengthening the
existing system of arbitration, including mandating domestic violence
awareness training for arbitrators, will help reduce the number of
informal,
religious-based family dispute resolutions that happen without any
oversight.

Critics of any use of sharia law in Canada point to examples of

what

some Muslim societies consider to be acceptable levels of spousal

support

when a marriage ends - anywhere from three months to a year's worth of
support - compared to a Canadian norm of much more long-term support for

a

former spouse and children.

"I think Boyd made up her mind before she even started because she
hasn't taken into consideration anything we said. It's like she didn't
hear
us," said Alia Hogben, executive director of the 900-member Canadian
Council
of Muslim Women.

Boyd's report recommends a greater right of appeal for

arbitrations,

but puts the onus on Muslim women to take that step, said Hogben, "but

how

would many women have the wherewithal to do that?"

"We just hope that the attorney-general freezes the report until a
proper investigation is done," said Homa Arjomand, head of the
International
Campaign to Stop Sharia Courts in Canada.

The campaign argued that while, technically, Muslim women will have
access to Canadian laws and court, and the legal system will undoubtedly
reject oppressive decisions, "the reality is that most women (will) be
coerced socially, economically or psychologically" into participating in
sharia tribunals.

Boyd's report calls on arbitrators to affirm that they have
interviewed the couple in dispute separately to determine that both
parties
are participating of their own free will and to rule out any possible
domestic violence issues.

All of the groups opposed to any use of sharia said they will
aggressively press the Liberal government and Attorney-General Michael
Bryant to reject Boyd's findings and put an end to arbitrations that

rely

on
Muslim laws.

But Syed Mumtaz Ali, a lawyer for the Islamic Institute for Civil
Justice, said he was "delighted" with Boyd's findings and added that

many

of
the 46 recommendations for strengthening the Arbitration Act came from
him.

"It's a model for the whole world to see how sharia law can be used
in
a Western society," Mumtaz Ali said in an interview. He added that while
sharia is a misnomer in terms of the type of family disputes at issue,

he

said it is the term most people recognize and associate with Muslim
beliefs
being applied through the law.

Mumtaz Ali said Muslim principles require Muslims to believe in one
God and to commit to obeying the law in the country where they live. He
said
the advantage of sharia-type arbitration is that participants are
compelled
by their religious beliefs to uphold the law, an extra onus that will

make

for fair treatment of all parties in the dispute.

"Canadian laws prevail, sharia law takes a backseat," he said of

the

plan he envisions for arbitration.

He said many people in the community are anxious to proceed with
sharia-based arbitration and plans have been in limbo awaiting Boyd's
report.

Len Rudner of the Canadian Jewish Congress said the group felt Boyd
struck a fair balance between the needs of the individuals and those of
the
community. "She appears to have done a good job of that," he said.

with files from Lynda Hurst






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