Um, this is great stuff.
Thou causest me to breaketh crossposting ethics.
"Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3jNMa.75911$Io.7103618@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
"no" <reenooeo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:LPMMa.22751$C83.2141446@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
Good idea, God should have used reverse psychology. Thou shalt murder
because ye art the lowliest of animals and scum; I (holy Jehovah) order
you
to murder your own people because ye art useless slime. Ye haveth no hope
of
ending wars for ye art the worst of El's creations. Ye haveth no chance of
proving me wrong...
Yes, of course.
That's exactly what god should have done.
And that's exactly what I meant... and that's exactly what I think jha_amin
meant.
Of course... the concept that one should not *have* to "command" a loved one
to love you is lost....
The deeper concept of 'raising' your children is lost....
The deeper concept of 'teaching' your children is lost...
The deeper concept of 'leading' your children is lost...
No... it is quite obvious that;
Children should be forced to love (pick one)...
Children should be forced to respect (pick one)...
Children should be forced to learn (pick one) ...
Children should be forced to have no other belief except (pick one)...
And since this concept applies to our children.... then it surely it applies
to gods children?
(Uh, that'd be you and me and a whole bunch of others).
;)
Mark wrote in message
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"jha_amin" <jha_amin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The point is, when is the last time you commanded a
loved one to do something? Did it get done? ;)
LOL!
Oh, wait... that's a pretty serious question, with pretty serious
answers,
and perhaps a pretty serious lesson.
Hmmm... the last time I commanded a loved one to do something, it was
"You
*will* bring up your grade in Mathematics...".
... and no, it did not get done. In fact, it seemed to have the opposite
effect... and worse.
Hmmm...
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03 Jul 2003 06:34:02 PM |
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Re: ten commandents loose appeal
I totally disagree.
I still find them very appealing.
- moshe
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03 Jul 2003 10:31:48 PM |
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"moshe" <joesterl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Re: ten commandents loose appeal
I totally disagree.
I still find them very appealing.
Which, exactly.
The ones that Nosty believed?
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| User: "David Chariot" |
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04 Jul 2003 09:13:45 PM |
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Your comments are most appreciated. May Peace be with you, always.
"Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall
be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall
be loosed in heaven." Matthew 18:18
Should you desire the truth, seek in God's Word, with abandon.
Sometimes you must sell all that you have, to obtain something of
greater value, this is the way of a disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Please do not take any scriptures out of context, ever.
"Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall
be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that
which he seemeth to have." <> Luke 8:18
"Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted,
shall be rooted up." Matthew 15:13
To gain an understanding of this "bind", review what Jesus says
in the utility of this word, further study OT cross references.
<> Matthew 12:29 / 13:30 / 16:19 / 18:18 / 22:13 <> Mark 3:27
Other utilization NT: <> Mark 5:3 <> Acts 9:14 / 21:11
Greek [1210] Strongs Concordance
deo- a primary verb; to bind (in various applications lit. or fig):
Other utilization NT: <> be in bonds, knit, tie, wind
Further NT crosses:
be in bonds- <> Colossians 4:3
knit- <> Acts 10:11
tied- <> Matthew 21:2 <> Mark 11:2 & 4 <> Luke 19:30
wound- <> John 19:40
IMHO, the application of Matthew 18:18 refers to Hebrew [7194],
there are other applications and for you to further this, goto...
http://www.biblestudytools.net/Concordances/StrongsExhaustiveConcordance/
Cross examining the word in applications in the Old Testament:
<> Deuteronomy 6:8 / 11:18 <> Joshua 2:18 <> Job 38:31 / 39:10 / 41:5
<> Proverbs 3:3 / 6:21 / 7:3 <> Isaiah 49:18
Hebrew [7194] Strongs Concordance
Qashar- a primary root; to tie, phys. (gird, confine, compact) or ment.
(in love, league):
Other utilization OT: conspire, join together, knit, stronger, work
Further OT crosses:
Conspire- <> see concordance, many references
joined together- <> Nehemiah 4:6
knit- <> I Samuel 18:1
stronger- <> Genesis 30:41 & 42
Watch out for Matthew 18:18, for what you bind on earth, shall be
bound in heaven. And then there is no repentance, and there shall
be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For there you are sealed with
what is in your hands, your works shall follow you.
<> Proverbs 24:12 <> Matthew 16:27 <> Revelation 9:20, 18:6 & 20:12-13
"Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples." Isaiah 8:16
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to
this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20
"Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth the feet
of the ox (law) and the ***** (testimony)." Isaiah 32:20
The Holy Seed <> Exodus 20:1-17 yields fruit of everlasting life
<> Genesis 1:12 <> Isaiah 6 <> Mark 4:26-27 <> Luke 8:11
You shall know them by their fruits, because it will have the seed
of life within, and they shall bear fruit which has the seed in it.
<> Proverbs 7:3 <> Deuteronomy 6:8 <> Psalms 144:1 <> Isaiah 8:16
The Waters
<> Isaiah 32:2 & 20 <> Matthew 10:42 <> Mark 9:41 <> John 4:14 & 7:38
Isaiah 51 verse 6, "but my salvation shall be for ever, and my
righteousness shall not be abolished."
Before a second rendition in Deuteronomy 5 of the Fiery Law, in
chapter 4 verse 8 Moses writes, "so righteous as all this law,
which I set before you this day." <> I Peter 4:12
He is talking about the 10 Commandments.
The Ten Commandments were written by the finger of God, they
are called a FIERY LAW, being that they are Spiritual and are a
covenant FOREVER AND FOREVER.
<> Deuteronomy 31:1-33:2 <> Isaiah 30 <> Matthew 5:17-20 <> Luke 16:31
Remember the Sabbath of the lawgiver (Saturday)...
"Teach us to number our days,
That we may gain a heart of wisdom" <> Psalm 90:12
"And the evening and the morning were the first day." <> Genesis 1:5
"And the evening and the morning were the second day." <> Genesis 1:8
"And the evening and the morning were the third day." <> Genesis 1:13
"And the evening and the morning were the fourth day." <> Genesis 1:19
"And the evening and the morning were the fifth day." <> Genesis 1:23
"And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." <> Genesis 1:31
"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of
them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in
it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."
<> Genesis 2:1-3
Sunday = 1 = First Day
Monday = 2 = Second Day
Tuesday = 3 = Third Day
Wednesday = 4 = Fourth Day
Thursday = 5 = Fifth Day
Friday = 6 = Sixth Day
Saturday = 7 = Seventh Day
"Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath
commanded thee. Six days thou shalt *LABOUR*, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:
<> Deuteronomy 5:12-14
"Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall
after the same example of unbelief" <> Hebrews 4:11
Drink freely at the well of the lawgiver unto eternal life...
<> Numbers 21:18 <> Isaiah 12:3 & 33:22 <> Matthew 10:42 <> James 4:12
Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ
And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever
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| User: "Peter Lemesurier" |
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05 Jul 2003 03:53:25 AM |
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"And he went and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). Go, and do thou
likewise (Luke 10:37)."
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 14:13:45 +1200, David' Chariot
<David_Chariot@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Your comments are most appreciated. May Peace be with you, always.
"Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall
be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall
be loosed in heaven." Matthew 18:18
Should you desire the truth, seek in God's Word, with abandon.
Sometimes you must sell all that you have, to obtain something of
greater value, this is the way of a disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Please do not take any scriptures out of context, ever.
"Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall
be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that
which he seemeth to have." <> Luke 8:18
"Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted,
shall be rooted up." Matthew 15:13
To gain an understanding of this "bind", review what Jesus says
in the utility of this word, further study OT cross references.
<> Matthew 12:29 / 13:30 / 16:19 / 18:18 / 22:13 <> Mark 3:27
Other utilization NT: <> Mark 5:3 <> Acts 9:14 / 21:11
Greek [1210] Strongs Concordance
deo- a primary verb; to bind (in various applications lit. or fig):
Other utilization NT: <> be in bonds, knit, tie, wind
Further NT crosses:
be in bonds- <> Colossians 4:3
knit- <> Acts 10:11
tied- <> Matthew 21:2 <> Mark 11:2 & 4 <> Luke 19:30
wound- <> John 19:40
IMHO, the application of Matthew 18:18 refers to Hebrew [7194],
there are other applications and for you to further this, goto...
http://www.biblestudytools.net/Concordances/StrongsExhaustiveConcordance/
Cross examining the word in applications in the Old Testament:
<> Deuteronomy 6:8 / 11:18 <> Joshua 2:18 <> Job 38:31 / 39:10 / 41:5
<> Proverbs 3:3 / 6:21 / 7:3 <> Isaiah 49:18
Hebrew [7194] Strongs Concordance
Qashar- a primary root; to tie, phys. (gird, confine, compact) or ment.
(in love, league):
Other utilization OT: conspire, join together, knit, stronger, work
Further OT crosses:
Conspire- <> see concordance, many references
joined together- <> Nehemiah 4:6
knit- <> I Samuel 18:1
stronger- <> Genesis 30:41 & 42
Watch out for Matthew 18:18, for what you bind on earth, shall be
bound in heaven. And then there is no repentance, and there shall
be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For there you are sealed with
what is in your hands, your works shall follow you.
<> Proverbs 24:12 <> Matthew 16:27 <> Revelation 9:20, 18:6 & 20:12-13
"Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples." Isaiah 8:16
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to
this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20
"Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth the feet
of the ox (law) and the ***** (testimony)." Isaiah 32:20
The Holy Seed <> Exodus 20:1-17 yields fruit of everlasting life
<> Genesis 1:12 <> Isaiah 6 <> Mark 4:26-27 <> Luke 8:11
You shall know them by their fruits, because it will have the seed
of life within, and they shall bear fruit which has the seed in it.
<> Proverbs 7:3 <> Deuteronomy 6:8 <> Psalms 144:1 <> Isaiah 8:16
The Waters
<> Isaiah 32:2 & 20 <> Matthew 10:42 <> Mark 9:41 <> John 4:14 & 7:38
Isaiah 51 verse 6, "but my salvation shall be for ever, and my
righteousness shall not be abolished."
Before a second rendition in Deuteronomy 5 of the Fiery Law, in
chapter 4 verse 8 Moses writes, "so righteous as all this law,
which I set before you this day." <> I Peter 4:12
He is talking about the 10 Commandments.
The Ten Commandments were written by the finger of God, they
are called a FIERY LAW, being that they are Spiritual and are a
covenant FOREVER AND FOREVER.
<> Deuteronomy 31:1-33:2 <> Isaiah 30 <> Matthew 5:17-20 <> Luke 16:31
Remember the Sabbath of the lawgiver (Saturday)...
"Teach us to number our days,
That we may gain a heart of wisdom" <> Psalm 90:12
"And the evening and the morning were the first day." <> Genesis 1:5
"And the evening and the morning were the second day." <> Genesis 1:8
"And the evening and the morning were the third day." <> Genesis 1:13
"And the evening and the morning were the fourth day." <> Genesis 1:19
"And the evening and the morning were the fifth day." <> Genesis 1:23
"And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." <> Genesis 1:31
"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of
them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in
it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."
<> Genesis 2:1-3
Sunday = 1 = First Day
Monday = 2 = Second Day
Tuesday = 3 = Third Day
Wednesday = 4 = Fourth Day
Thursday = 5 = Fifth Day
Friday = 6 = Sixth Day
Saturday = 7 = Seventh Day
"Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath
commanded thee. Six days thou shalt *LABOUR*, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:
<> Deuteronomy 5:12-14
"Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall
after the same example of unbelief" <> Hebrews 4:11
Drink freely at the well of the lawgiver unto eternal life...
<> Numbers 21:18 <> Isaiah 12:3 & 33:22 <> Matthew 10:42 <> James 4:12
Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ
And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever
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| User: "David Chariot" |
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05 Jul 2003 11:03:01 AM |
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Peter Lemesurier wrote:
"And he went and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). Go, and do thou
likewise (Luke 10:37)."
My, my. That was a very thoughtful response. LOL Disdain?
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| User: "Peter Lemesurier" |
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06 Jul 2003 03:16:49 AM |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 04:03:01 +1200, David' Chariot
<David_Chariot@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Peter Lemesurier wrote:
"And he went and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). Go, and do thou
likewise (Luke 10:37)."
My, my. That was a very thoughtful response. LOL Disdain?
Well, we all realise how hard it must be for you to understand what a
Nostradamus newsgroup is for...
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| User: "David Chariot" |
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06 Jul 2003 06:36:57 AM |
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Peter Lemesurier wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 04:03:01 +1200, David' Chariot
<David_Chariot@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Peter Lemesurier wrote:
"And he went and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). Go, and do thou
likewise (Luke 10:37)."
My, my. That was a very thoughtful response. LOL Disdain?
Well, we all realise how hard it must be for you to understand what a
Nostradamus newsgroup is for...
I should think it would be a black hole of darkness where little
lights would shine like stars for those who have an eye to see.
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| User: "Peter Lemesurier" |
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06 Jul 2003 11:12:11 AM |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 23:36:57 +1200, David' Chariot
<David_Chariot@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Well, we all realise how hard it must be for you to understand what a
Nostradamus newsgroup is for...
I should think it would be a black hole of darkness where little
lights would shine like stars for those who have an eye to see.
Hmm... I'm not sure about the 'little lights'... :(
--
Peter
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| User: "David Chariot" |
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06 Jul 2003 11:14:18 AM |
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Peter Lemesurier wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 23:36:57 +1200, David' Chariot
<David_Chariot@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Well, we all realise how hard it must be for you to understand what a
Nostradamus newsgroup is for...
I should think it would be a black hole of darkness where little
lights would shine like stars for those who have an eye to see.
Hmm... I'm not sure about the 'little lights'... :(
Can you see Nostradamus?
--
Peter
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| User: "Krib" |
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06 Jul 2003 11:28:14 AM |
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"David' Chariot" <David_Chariot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F084ADA.15787FC@hotmail.com...
Hmm... I'm not sure about the 'little lights'... :(
Although with a heap of imagination and some
dextrity with truth, we can turn lights into an
anagram of liars, quite fitting in some ways.
--
krib
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| User: "Peter Lemesurier" |
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07 Jul 2003 03:33:32 AM |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 04:14:18 +1200, David' Chariot
<David_Chariot@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
I should think it would be a black hole of darkness where little
lights would shine like stars for those who have an eye to see.
Hmm... I'm not sure about the 'little lights'... :(
Can you see Nostradamus?
Do you know anything about Nostradamus?
--
Peter
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| User: "David Chariot" |
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04 Jul 2003 08:55:47 PM |
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jha_amin wrote:
"bardi" <toriley@fuse.net> wrote in message news:<3f05cfb5$0$49004$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net>...
"moshe" <joesterl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40f21e75.0307031534.2e1cddc1@posting.google.com...
Re: ten commandents loose appeal
I totally disagree.
I still find them very appealing.
- moshe
I agree with you, moshe.
The ten commandments did not loose.
1) loose is to set free
2) take care what you bind and what you loose
<> Matthew 16:19 "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom
of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven."
<> Deuteronomy 6:8 "And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine
hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes."
<> Matthew 18:18 "Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind
on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on
earth shall be loosed in heaven."
A judge who was trying to claim
ownership of them for a particular ideology lost.
|> > df
^^ does this mean deaf?
bardi
|> I think the ten and their "thou shalt not's" have been loosing
losing ^^^^^^^
|> since their inception. Basicly
^^^^^^^ Basically?
they may seem like a good idea,
in actual practice, they suck big time.
It is apparent that you don't love God.
Back to Basics:
<> Isaiah 58:12 "And they that shall be of thee shall build the old
waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations;
and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of
paths to dwell in."
<> Jeremiah 6:16 "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see,
and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein,
and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk
therein."
Note: Blasphemy will get you nowhere, real fast.
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| User: "bardi" |
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05 Jul 2003 09:10:10 AM |
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"David' Chariot" <David_Chariot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F063023.98423B4A@hotmail.com...
jha_amin wrote:
"bardi" <toriley@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:<3f05cfb5$0$49004$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net>...
"moshe" <joesterl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40f21e75.0307031534.2e1cddc1@posting.google.com...
Re: ten commandents loose appeal
I totally disagree.
I still find them very appealing.
- moshe
I agree with you, moshe.
The ten commandments did not loose.
1) loose is to set free
2) take care what you bind and what you loose
At first I thought it a typo but perhaps my fingers knew better than I did.
My point was that Christianity must remain set loose, away from the grasping
of political groups of any belief. History shows us that whenever a
theocracy is established both the political structure and the religion
suffer. Does this mean I am against the 10 commandments? Not in the least.
One would hope that the justices carry their faith into the courtroom. But
as individuals,the way it was intended.
|> > df
^^ does this mean deaf?
does this mean you are incapable of a post without ad hominum? df stands for
defensor fidei.
df
bardi
bardi
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| User: "randy" |
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05 Jul 2003 12:06:05 PM |
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"bardi"
At first I thought it a typo but perhaps my fingers knew better than I did.
My point was that Christianity must remain set loose, away from the grasping
of political groups of any belief. History shows us that whenever a
theocracy is established both the political structure and the religion
suffer. Does this mean I am against the 10 commandments? Not in the least.
One would hope that the justices carry their faith into the courtroom. But
as individuals,the way it was intended.
Christianity must remain firmly entrenched in political power.
Otherwise you have a completely religiously-neutral political power.
As such it will not decide in the favor of Christianity in its courts.
On the contrary, it will dictate to the courts a choice that is
neutral, necessarily favoring a neutrality and diversity that
tolerates sin and the removal of any religious dogma. In reality, it
is replacing religious dogma with the dogma of supposed "neutrality."
History has shown 1000 years of successful theocracy (in a sense) in
the Byzantine Empire. Islam has shown a remarkable capacity to
persevere because of its theocratic tendencies. The Jewish faith
itself is based on theocracy, the uncompromising Kingdom of God and
its moral law. None of this argues your case, but in fact, denies what
you claim.
randy
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| User: "David Chariot" |
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07 Jul 2003 12:12:48 AM |
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bardi wrote:
<>=snip
|> > df
^^ does this mean deaf?
does this mean you are incapable of a post without ad hominum?
Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.. | Now, enough of this singing.
df stands for defensor fidei.
Perhaps...
Is that like a disciple?
Tell me, df, When were the Ten Commandments created?
(IOW, were they created in the Six Days of Creation, before the
Seventh Day rest? When they were given to Moses, were they that
day written by God? Like he spoke upon the Mount, <> Exodus 19:16
"And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were
thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the
voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was
in the camp trembled.")
perhaps...
Now, the question is, has any on jot or tittle been altered?
perhaps...
Notes: Law and Light intermingle and are "One"?
<> I Samuel 18:23 "And Saul’s servants spake those words in the ears
of David. And David said, Seemeth it to you a light thing to be a
king’s son in law, seeing that I am a poor man, and lightly esteemed?"
<> Proverbs 6:23 "For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is
light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:"
<> Isaiah 8:20 "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not
according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
<> Isaiah 51:4 Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me,
O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my
judgment to rest for a light of the people."
<> Zephaniah 3:4 "Her prophets are light and treacherous persons:
her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence to
the law."
df
Listen. And here ye, Hear?
bardi
bardi
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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05 Jul 2003 04:59:27 AM |
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David' Chariot <David_Chariot@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F063023.98423B4A@hotmail.com>...
jha_amin wrote:
"bardi" <toriley@fuse.net> wrote in message news:<3f05cfb5$0$49004$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net>...
"moshe" <joesterl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40f21e75.0307031534.2e1cddc1@posting.google.com...
Re: ten commandents loose appeal
I totally disagree.
I still find them very appealing.
- moshe
Note: Blasphemy will get you nowhere, real fast.
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My vote's with Jha Amin. Hell, I never cared a lot about those
commandments anyway!
Ah well..doom will call on me I suppose.
Oh.. God missed one out (should have been eleven) "Thou shalt not make
WMD's" might have been a useful addition!!
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