Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
============
Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
From: Stuart Grey <stuart.g...@nospam.comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:25:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 27 2005 8:25 am
Subject: The coming Iran-Israel war.
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Consider this:
Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/middleeast/26cnd-iran...
(Note that the Jewish run NYT is actually ANTI-Israel. It's a long
story...)
IT would be foolish to think that Israel would just let itself be
exterminated as the President of Iran wants. There will be a nuclear
exchanges.
So, have you guys got your bomb shelters dug yet? Mind you, you can put
it off until the bombs are flying, because the fallout will take a
couple of weeks to reach the United States.
-----------
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
-------------------------------------------------------------
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Ewen MacAskill and Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday October 27, 2005
The Guardian
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday
by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off
the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than
his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian
attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
The populist leader's comments, reported by the state-run media, come
at a time when Tehran is under pressure over its suspect nuclear
weapons ambitions and alleged involvement in attacks on British troops
in Iraq.
He said: "Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the
Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the
Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of
the Islamic world." He was addressing a conference titled The World
Without Zionism.
His speech was immediately condemned by the US, Britain, France,
Germany and Israel. The Foreign Office could not recall a similar
statement from a senior Iranian leader since the former president
Hashemi Rafsanjani five years ago called for a Muslim state to
annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike. Since then, there has been a
mild thaw in relations between Muslim states, including Arab ones, and
Israel.
But Mr Ahmadinejad rejected compromise: "There is no doubt that the new
wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from
the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
The US and Britain are leading a push to have Iran referred to the UN
security council next month because of fears that it is covertly
engaged in securing a nuclear weapons capability by deciding to restart
a uranium conversion programme, an early step towards such an ability.
Tehran has repeatedly said its programme is for civil use only.
Both the US and Britain saw their fears about Mr Ahmadinejad's election
confirmed when he made a fiery speech at a UN summit in New York in
September. His predecessor, Muhammad Khatami, had tried to improve
links with the west and been less vocal in condemnation of Israel.
The US said the president's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's
fears. "I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the
regime. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear
intentions," Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said.
Mark Regev, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said: "Unfortunately
this is not the first time that we've heard such an extremist message
from the Iranian leadership. I think there is a growing understanding
in the international community that the regime is not Israel's problem
alone, but a problem the entire international community must grapple
with."
Israel views Iran as its main security threat in the Middle East. The
defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, has said Tehran could be capable of
developing a nuclear weapon within months and that there is a need for
urgent action to prevent that.
Israel has issued thinly veiled threats against Iran's nuclear
programme if diplomatic efforts fail and is buying 500 "bunker-buster"
bombs from the US that could be used to destroy the facilities. The
Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, raised the question of the
nuclear programme with the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov, in Jerusalem yesterday. Russia is selling nuclear fuel for the
reactors to Iran, despite Israel's objections.
France and Germany expressed concern about Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks
yesterday. Jean-Baptiste Mattei, a French foreign ministry spokesman,
said: "We have noted press articles reporting the comments of President
Ahmadinejad. If these comments were indeed made, we condemn them with
the utmost firmness." A German foreign ministry spokesman, Walter
Lindner, said: "Should these comments have actually been made, they are
completely unacceptable and to be condemned in the sharpest terms."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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27 Oct 2005 02:28:58 AM |
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HOOROO my buddy.
I don't see this thing happening until 2007 (or maybe 2008 or 2009).
- Right about now, "I fell like I have been 'Hung Out to Dry' " by those in 'The Know' from
the "Past Life" (possibly because they feel that I have been 'abusing my powers'.) - or
retribution for 'interfering' with their "collection of soles" - "I still stand by my
'interferance' on that one" (Ricky, "Please don't 'Prove Me Wrong' on this one !!!")
But, my previous 'sensing' did not see any 'NUCLEAR' strikes until much later into the
'engagement' - actually, I originally saw this as the 'turning point' of 2011 (which will
preceed [and replace] the Mayan Calendar's 'precieved' date of Dec. 22, 2012 (I have always
said that most WATCHes tend to 'Run Fast' !!!)
This Could Be The Example (OR, This Could Be The END OF THE WORLD, As We Know It.) !!!
:-(]
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27 Oct 2005 06:45:42 AM |
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"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:Ii%7f.10466$Nj3.931945@news20.bellglobal.com...
HOOROO my buddy.
I don't see this thing happening until 2007 (or maybe 2008 or 2009).
- Right about now, "I fell like I have been 'Hung Out to Dry' " by those
in 'The Know' from
the "Past Life" (possibly because they feel that I have been 'abusing my
powers'.) - or
retribution for 'interfering' with their "collection of soles"
What do they do with the soles? Use them to fix their shoes?
Jane
- "I still stand by my
'interferance' on that one" (Ricky, "Please don't 'Prove Me Wrong' on this
one !!!")
But, my previous 'sensing' did not see any 'NUCLEAR' strikes until much
later into the
'engagement' - actually, I originally saw this as the 'turning point' of
2011 (which will
preceed [and replace] the Mayan Calendar's 'precieved' date of Dec. 22,
2012 (I have always
said that most WATCHes tend to 'Run Fast' !!!)
This Could Be The Example (OR, This Could Be The END OF THE WORLD, As We
Know It.) !!!
:-(]
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27 Oct 2005 03:24:09 AM |
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Hehehehh tell you what I'll give you guys some hope.
I'll be dreaming up some mighty visions to save the world.
I'm make nostradumus theories look real :-)
I'll protect Creation.
After all I am Creation.
Chuckle Chuckle
Why not.
Someone has to do something in life aye :-0
I'll live in that 2/3's dream world remeber.
1/3 real life, 2/3's real life.
1 real life can change the world.
Well not really I think it takes heaps more than that.
But it's all giggles and fun.
I'll just keep people entertained.
Through this craziness.
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| User: "The Other Guy" |
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27 Oct 2005 03:45:23 AM |
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All I can say is;
Buddy , what have you been 'smokin',
And, If it ain't laced with 'Crack', "Pass it around !!!"
:-(]
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27 Oct 2005 08:16:06 AM |
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You just lemmie know where you want it sent.... it's good stuff :)
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Untouchable wrote:
You just lemmie know where you want it sent.... it's good stuff :)
Announcer: "Do you want what's in the box, or what's behind the curtain?
Contestant: "THE CURTAIN!!!!!"
A: "Let's show her what she won..."
C: "This is a bag if $#!^...!"
A: "Yes, but it's really good $#!^.
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27 Oct 2005 06:45:26 PM |
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Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1130387130.057450.314970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
============
Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
From: Stuart Grey <stuart.g...@nospam.comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:25:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 27 2005 8:25 am
Subject: The coming Iran-Israel war.
---
Consider this:
Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/middleeast/26cnd-iran...
(Note that the Jewish run NYT is actually ANTI-Israel. It's a long
story...)
IT would be foolish to think that Israel would just let itself be
exterminated as the President of Iran wants. There will be a nuclear
exchanges.
So, have you guys got your bomb shelters dug yet? Mind you, you can put
it off until the bombs are flying, because the fallout will take a
couple of weeks to reach the United States.
-----------
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
-------------------------------------------------------------
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Ewen MacAskill and Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday October 27, 2005
The Guardian
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday
by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off
the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than
his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian
attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
The populist leader's comments, reported by the state-run media, come
at a time when Tehran is under pressure over its suspect nuclear
weapons ambitions and alleged involvement in attacks on British troops
in Iraq.
He said: "Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the
Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the
Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of
the Islamic world." He was addressing a conference titled The World
Without Zionism.
His speech was immediately condemned by the US, Britain, France,
Germany and Israel. The Foreign Office could not recall a similar
statement from a senior Iranian leader since the former president
Hashemi Rafsanjani five years ago called for a Muslim state to
annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike. Since then, there has been a
mild thaw in relations between Muslim states, including Arab ones, and
Israel.
But Mr Ahmadinejad rejected compromise: "There is no doubt that the new
wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from
the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
The US and Britain are leading a push to have Iran referred to the UN
security council next month because of fears that it is covertly
engaged in securing a nuclear weapons capability by deciding to restart
a uranium conversion programme, an early step towards such an ability.
Tehran has repeatedly said its programme is for civil use only.
Both the US and Britain saw their fears about Mr Ahmadinejad's election
confirmed when he made a fiery speech at a UN summit in New York in
September. His predecessor, Muhammad Khatami, had tried to improve
links with the west and been less vocal in condemnation of Israel.
The US said the president's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's
fears. "I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the
regime. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear
intentions," Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said.
Mark Regev, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said: "Unfortunately
this is not the first time that we've heard such an extremist message
from the Iranian leadership. I think there is a growing understanding
in the international community that the regime is not Israel's problem
alone, but a problem the entire international community must grapple
with."
Israel views Iran as its main security threat in the Middle East. The
defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, has said Tehran could be capable of
developing a nuclear weapon within months and that there is a need for
urgent action to prevent that.
Israel has issued thinly veiled threats against Iran's nuclear
programme if diplomatic efforts fail and is buying 500 "bunker-buster"
bombs from the US that could be used to destroy the facilities. The
Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, raised the question of the
nuclear programme with the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov, in Jerusalem yesterday. Russia is selling nuclear fuel for the
reactors to Iran, despite Israel's objections.
France and Germany expressed concern about Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks
yesterday. Jean-Baptiste Mattei, a French foreign ministry spokesman,
said: "We have noted press articles reporting the comments of President
Ahmadinejad. If these comments were indeed made, we condemn them with
the utmost firmness." A German foreign ministry spokesman, Walter
Lindner, said: "Should these comments have actually been made, they are
completely unacceptable and to be condemned in the sharpest terms."
==================================
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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| User: "Lawrence_Glickman" |
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27 Oct 2005 08:38:36 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Lg
misc.survivalism
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1130387130.057450.314970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
============
Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
From: Stuart Grey <stuart.g...@nospam.comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:25:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 27 2005 8:25 am
Subject: The coming Iran-Israel war.
---
Consider this:
Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/middleeast/26cnd-iran...
(Note that the Jewish run NYT is actually ANTI-Israel. It's a long
story...)
IT would be foolish to think that Israel would just let itself be
exterminated as the President of Iran wants. There will be a nuclear
exchanges.
So, have you guys got your bomb shelters dug yet? Mind you, you can put
it off until the bombs are flying, because the fallout will take a
couple of weeks to reach the United States.
-----------
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
-------------------------------------------------------------
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Ewen MacAskill and Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday October 27, 2005
The Guardian
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday
by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off
the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than
his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian
attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
The populist leader's comments, reported by the state-run media, come
at a time when Tehran is under pressure over its suspect nuclear
weapons ambitions and alleged involvement in attacks on British troops
in Iraq.
He said: "Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the
Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the
Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of
the Islamic world." He was addressing a conference titled The World
Without Zionism.
His speech was immediately condemned by the US, Britain, France,
Germany and Israel. The Foreign Office could not recall a similar
statement from a senior Iranian leader since the former president
Hashemi Rafsanjani five years ago called for a Muslim state to
annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike. Since then, there has been a
mild thaw in relations between Muslim states, including Arab ones, and
Israel.
But Mr Ahmadinejad rejected compromise: "There is no doubt that the new
wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from
the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
The US and Britain are leading a push to have Iran referred to the UN
security council next month because of fears that it is covertly
engaged in securing a nuclear weapons capability by deciding to restart
a uranium conversion programme, an early step towards such an ability.
Tehran has repeatedly said its programme is for civil use only.
Both the US and Britain saw their fears about Mr Ahmadinejad's election
confirmed when he made a fiery speech at a UN summit in New York in
September. His predecessor, Muhammad Khatami, had tried to improve
links with the west and been less vocal in condemnation of Israel.
The US said the president's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's
fears. "I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the
regime. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear
intentions," Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said.
Mark Regev, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said: "Unfortunately
this is not the first time that we've heard such an extremist message
from the Iranian leadership. I think there is a growing understanding
in the international community that the regime is not Israel's problem
alone, but a problem the entire international community must grapple
with."
Israel views Iran as its main security threat in the Middle East. The
defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, has said Tehran could be capable of
developing a nuclear weapon within months and that there is a need for
urgent action to prevent that.
Israel has issued thinly veiled threats against Iran's nuclear
programme if diplomatic efforts fail and is buying 500 "bunker-buster"
bombs from the US that could be used to destroy the facilities. The
Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, raised the question of the
nuclear programme with the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov, in Jerusalem yesterday. Russia is selling nuclear fuel for the
reactors to Iran, despite Israel's objections.
France and Germany expressed concern about Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks
yesterday. Jean-Baptiste Mattei, a French foreign ministry spokesman,
said: "We have noted press articles reporting the comments of President
Ahmadinejad. If these comments were indeed made, we condemn them with
the utmost firmness." A German foreign ministry spokesman, Walter
Lindner, said: "Should these comments have actually been made, they are
completely unacceptable and to be condemned in the sharpest terms."
==================================
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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28 Oct 2005 06:44:31 AM |
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"Lawrence_Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b403m1hq1cuid2k916ghc9gkh6la12cup6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out
Saddam's...and to hell with what the rest of the world thinks!
Jane
Lg
misc.survivalism
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1130387130.057450.314970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
============
Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
From: Stuart Grey <stuart.g...@nospam.comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:25:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 27 2005 8:25 am
Subject: The coming Iran-Israel war.
---
Consider this:
Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/middleeast/26cnd-iran...
(Note that the Jewish run NYT is actually ANTI-Israel. It's a long
story...)
IT would be foolish to think that Israel would just let itself be
exterminated as the President of Iran wants. There will be a nuclear
exchanges.
So, have you guys got your bomb shelters dug yet? Mind you, you can put
it off until the bombs are flying, because the fallout will take a
couple of weeks to reach the United States.
-----------
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
-------------------------------------------------------------
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Ewen MacAskill and Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday October 27, 2005
The Guardian
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday
by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off
the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than
his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian
attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
The populist leader's comments, reported by the state-run media, come
at a time when Tehran is under pressure over its suspect nuclear
weapons ambitions and alleged involvement in attacks on British troops
in Iraq.
He said: "Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the
Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the
Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of
the Islamic world." He was addressing a conference titled The World
Without Zionism.
His speech was immediately condemned by the US, Britain, France,
Germany and Israel. The Foreign Office could not recall a similar
statement from a senior Iranian leader since the former president
Hashemi Rafsanjani five years ago called for a Muslim state to
annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike. Since then, there has been a
mild thaw in relations between Muslim states, including Arab ones, and
Israel.
But Mr Ahmadinejad rejected compromise: "There is no doubt that the new
wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from
the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
The US and Britain are leading a push to have Iran referred to the UN
security council next month because of fears that it is covertly
engaged in securing a nuclear weapons capability by deciding to restart
a uranium conversion programme, an early step towards such an ability.
Tehran has repeatedly said its programme is for civil use only.
Both the US and Britain saw their fears about Mr Ahmadinejad's election
confirmed when he made a fiery speech at a UN summit in New York in
September. His predecessor, Muhammad Khatami, had tried to improve
links with the west and been less vocal in condemnation of Israel.
The US said the president's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's
fears. "I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the
regime. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear
intentions," Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said.
Mark Regev, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said: "Unfortunately
this is not the first time that we've heard such an extremist message
from the Iranian leadership. I think there is a growing understanding
in the international community that the regime is not Israel's problem
alone, but a problem the entire international community must grapple
with."
Israel views Iran as its main security threat in the Middle East. The
defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, has said Tehran could be capable of
developing a nuclear weapon within months and that there is a need for
urgent action to prevent that.
Israel has issued thinly veiled threats against Iran's nuclear
programme if diplomatic efforts fail and is buying 500 "bunker-buster"
bombs from the US that could be used to destroy the facilities. The
Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, raised the question of the
nuclear programme with the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov, in Jerusalem yesterday. Russia is selling nuclear fuel for the
reactors to Iran, despite Israel's objections.
France and Germany expressed concern about Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks
yesterday. Jean-Baptiste Mattei, a French foreign ministry spokesman,
said: "We have noted press articles reporting the comments of President
Ahmadinejad. If these comments were indeed made, we condemn them with
the utmost firmness." A German foreign ministry spokesman, Walter
Lindner, said: "Should these comments have actually been made, they are
completely unacceptable and to be condemned in the sharpest terms."
==================================
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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28 Oct 2005 07:14:15 AM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tao8f.7776$ki7.577744@news20.bellglobal.com...
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out
Saddam's...and to hell with what the rest of the world thinks!
Jane
As you say, they did it before in Iraq and have the pondus to do it in Iran.
It blew over last time,
and will this time.
I have mixed feelings about Israel. They sometimes behave very badly and I
cannot condone
that sort of behavior. I dont condone it from Arabs either.
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28 Oct 2005 09:47:37 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tao8f.7776$ki7.577744@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Lawrence_Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b403m1hq1cuid2k916ghc9gkh6la12cup6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out Saddam's...and to hell with
what the rest of the world thinks!
Iran has evolved into the most dangerous nation. They must be neutralized with extreme prejudice and
violence. They have to be hit extremely hard with a huge air assault. The US also has to be prepared
to use FAE to guard the Iran-Iraq border against human wave attacks. It'll be brutal but worth it in
the long run. It's the only thing they understand.
-the dreamwalker
Jane
Lg
misc.survivalism
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1130387130.057450.314970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
From: Stuart Grey <stuart.g...@nospam.comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:25:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 27 2005 8:25 am
Subject: The coming Iran-Israel war.
---
Consider this:
Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/middleeast/26cnd-iran...
(Note that the Jewish run NYT is actually ANTI-Israel. It's a long
story...)
IT would be foolish to think that Israel would just let itself be
exterminated as the President of Iran wants. There will be a nuclear
exchanges.
So, have you guys got your bomb shelters dug yet? Mind you, you can put
it off until the bombs are flying, because the fallout will take a
couple of weeks to reach the United States.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Ewen MacAskill and Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday October 27, 2005
The Guardian
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday
by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off
the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than
his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian
attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
The populist leader's comments, reported by the state-run media, come
at a time when Tehran is under pressure over its suspect nuclear
weapons ambitions and alleged involvement in attacks on British troops
in Iraq.
He said: "Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the
Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the
Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of
the Islamic world." He was addressing a conference titled The World
Without Zionism.
His speech was immediately condemned by the US, Britain, France,
Germany and Israel. The Foreign Office could not recall a similar
statement from a senior Iranian leader since the former president
Hashemi Rafsanjani five years ago called for a Muslim state to
annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike. Since then, there has been a
mild thaw in relations between Muslim states, including Arab ones, and
Israel.
But Mr Ahmadinejad rejected compromise: "There is no doubt that the new
wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from
the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
The US and Britain are leading a push to have Iran referred to the UN
security council next month because of fears that it is covertly
engaged in securing a nuclear weapons capability by deciding to restart
a uranium conversion programme, an early step towards such an ability.
Tehran has repeatedly said its programme is for civil use only.
Both the US and Britain saw their fears about Mr Ahmadinejad's election
confirmed when he made a fiery speech at a UN summit in New York in
September. His predecessor, Muhammad Khatami, had tried to improve
links with the west and been less vocal in condemnation of Israel.
The US said the president's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's
fears. "I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the
regime. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear
intentions," Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said.
Mark Regev, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said: "Unfortunately
this is not the first time that we've heard such an extremist message
from the Iranian leadership. I think there is a growing understanding
in the international community that the regime is not Israel's problem
alone, but a problem the entire international community must grapple
with."
Israel views Iran as its main security threat in the Middle East. The
defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, has said Tehran could be capable of
developing a nuclear weapon within months and that there is a need for
urgent action to prevent that.
Israel has issued thinly veiled threats against Iran's nuclear
programme if diplomatic efforts fail and is buying 500 "bunker-buster"
bombs from the US that could be used to destroy the facilities. The
Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, raised the question of the
nuclear programme with the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov, in Jerusalem yesterday. Russia is selling nuclear fuel for the
reactors to Iran, despite Israel's objections.
France and Germany expressed concern about Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks
yesterday. Jean-Baptiste Mattei, a French foreign ministry spokesman,
said: "We have noted press articles reporting the comments of President
Ahmadinejad. If these comments were indeed made, we condemn them with
the utmost firmness." A German foreign ministry spokesman, Walter
Lindner, said: "Should these comments have actually been made, they are
completely unacceptable and to be condemned in the sharpest terms."
==================================
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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31 Oct 2005 04:06:21 AM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Lawrence_Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the
map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out
Saddam's...and to hell with
what the rest of the world thinks!
Iran has evolved into the most dangerous nation. They must be neutralized
with extreme prejudice and
violence. They have to be hit extremely hard with a huge air assault. The
US also has to be prepared
to use FAE to guard the Iran-Iraq border against human wave attacks. It'll
be brutal but worth it in
the long run. It's the only thing they understand.
You're so fucking clueless aren't you Dimwanker?
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28 Oct 2005 10:16:37 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:47:37 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tao8f.7776$ki7.577744@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Lawrence_Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b403m1hq1cuid2k916ghc9gkh6la12cup6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out Saddam's...and to hell with
what the rest of the world thinks!
============================================================================
Iran has evolved into the most dangerous nation. They must be neutralized with extreme prejudice and
violence. They have to be hit extremely hard with a huge air assault. The US also has to be prepared
to use FAE to guard the Iran-Iraq border against human wave attacks. It'll be brutal but worth it in
the long run. It's the only thing they understand.
Yes, unfortunately, I have to agree fully with this assessment. This
isn't a situation that is going to *blow over* as someone else
suggested. Iran is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. As enumarated by the
U.S. Secretary of State and others in the Administration.
These self-righteous bastards only understand one thing, and that is
Brute Force. They will have to be bombed back into the Stone Age in
order for the threat they present to be neutralized.
My orders have been passed on to Sharon. My orders are to proceed
immediately with the complete incineration of Iran's nuclear
infrastructure.
Lg
the man behind the mask
=============================================================================
-the dreamwalker
Jane
Lg
misc.survivalism
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1130387130.057450.314970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
============
Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
From: Stuart Grey <stuart.g...@nospam.comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:25:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 27 2005 8:25 am
Subject: The coming Iran-Israel war.
---
Consider this:
Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/middleeast/26cnd-iran...
(Note that the Jewish run NYT is actually ANTI-Israel. It's a long
story...)
IT would be foolish to think that Israel would just let itself be
exterminated as the President of Iran wants. There will be a nuclear
exchanges.
So, have you guys got your bomb shelters dug yet? Mind you, you can put
it off until the bombs are flying, because the fallout will take a
couple of weeks to reach the United States.
-----------
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
-------------------------------------------------------------
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Ewen MacAskill and Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday October 27, 2005
The Guardian
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday
by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off
the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than
his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian
attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
The populist leader's comments, reported by the state-run media, come
at a time when Tehran is under pressure over its suspect nuclear
weapons ambitions and alleged involvement in attacks on British troops
in Iraq.
He said: "Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the
Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the
Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of
the Islamic world." He was addressing a conference titled The World
Without Zionism.
His speech was immediately condemned by the US, Britain, France,
Germany and Israel. The Foreign Office could not recall a similar
statement from a senior Iranian leader since the former president
Hashemi Rafsanjani five years ago called for a Muslim state to
annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike. Since then, there has been a
mild thaw in relations between Muslim states, including Arab ones, and
Israel.
But Mr Ahmadinejad rejected compromise: "There is no doubt that the new
wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from
the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
The US and Britain are leading a push to have Iran referred to the UN
security council next month because of fears that it is covertly
engaged in securing a nuclear weapons capability by deciding to restart
a uranium conversion programme, an early step towards such an ability.
Tehran has repeatedly said its programme is for civil use only.
Both the US and Britain saw their fears about Mr Ahmadinejad's election
confirmed when he made a fiery speech at a UN summit in New York in
September. His predecessor, Muhammad Khatami, had tried to improve
links with the west and been less vocal in condemnation of Israel.
The US said the president's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's
fears. "I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the
regime. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear
intentions," Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said.
Mark Regev, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said: "Unfortunately
this is not the first time that we've heard such an extremist message
from the Iranian leadership. I think there is a growing understanding
in the international community that the regime is not Israel's problem
alone, but a problem the entire international community must grapple
with."
Israel views Iran as its main security threat in the Middle East. The
defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, has said Tehran could be capable of
developing a nuclear weapon within months and that there is a need for
urgent action to prevent that.
Israel has issued thinly veiled threats against Iran's nuclear
programme if diplomatic efforts fail and is buying 500 "bunker-buster"
bombs from the US that could be used to destroy the facilities. The
Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, raised the question of the
nuclear programme with the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov, in Jerusalem yesterday. Russia is selling nuclear fuel for the
reactors to Iran, despite Israel's objections.
France and Germany expressed concern about Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks
yesterday. Jean-Baptiste Mattei, a French foreign ministry spokesman,
said: "We have noted press articles reporting the comments of President
Ahmadinejad. If these comments were indeed made, we condemn them with
the utmost firmness." A German foreign ministry spokesman, Walter
Lindner, said: "Should these comments have actually been made, they are
completely unacceptable and to be condemned in the sharpest terms."
==================================
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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29 Oct 2005 04:31:38 PM |
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Lawrence_Glickman wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:47:37 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tao8f.7776$ki7.577744@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Lawrence_Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b403m1hq1cuid2k916ghc9gkh6la12cup6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out Saddam's...and to hell with
what the rest of the world thinks!
============================================================================
Iran has evolved into the most dangerous nation. They must be neutralized with extreme prejudice and
violence. They have to be hit extremely hard with a huge air assault. The US also has to be prepared
to use FAE to guard the Iran-Iraq border against human wave attacks. It'll be brutal but worth it in
the long run. It's the only thing they understand.
Yes, unfortunately, I have to agree fully with this assessment. This
isn't a situation that is going to *blow over* as someone else
suggested. Iran is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. As enumarated by the
U.S. Secretary of State and others in the Administration.
These self-righteous bastards only understand one thing, and that is
Brute Force. They will have to be bombed back into the Stone Age in
order for the threat they present to be neutralized.
Moslems will behave well enough, IF YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND. If you
don't, they will try to either kill you or turn you into a subhuman dhimmi.
My orders have been passed on to Sharon. My orders are to proceed
immediately with the complete incineration of Iran's nuclear
infrastructure.
LOL! Did you order him to give up Gaza, too?
Israel's problem is that it has become infested with communist Jews who
don't like nationalism, hate Israel and tell the story that they can get
along with the Islmofascist by signing KumbyeYah with them. Israel of
today is not the nation of survivors of the death camps. Modern Israel
is full of self loathing idiots who seem to have a death wish.
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29 Oct 2005 07:55:23 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:31:38 -0700, Stuart Grey
<stuart.grey@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
Lawrence_Glickman wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:47:37 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tao8f.7776$ki7.577744@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Lawrence_Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b403m1hq1cuid2k916ghc9gkh6la12cup6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out Saddam's...and to hell with
what the rest of the world thinks!
============================================================================
Iran has evolved into the most dangerous nation. They must be neutralized with extreme prejudice and
violence. They have to be hit extremely hard with a huge air assault. The US also has to be prepared
to use FAE to guard the Iran-Iraq border against human wave attacks. It'll be brutal but worth it in
the long run. It's the only thing they understand.
Yes, unfortunately, I have to agree fully with this assessment. This
isn't a situation that is going to *blow over* as someone else
suggested. Iran is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. As enumarated by the
U.S. Secretary of State and others in the Administration.
============================================================================
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
These self-righteous bastards only understand one thing, and that is
Brute Force. They will have to be bombed back into the Stone Age in
order for the threat they present to be neutralized.
Moslems will behave well enough, IF YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND. If you
don't, they will try to either kill you or turn you into a subhuman dhimmi.
My orders have been passed on to Sharon. My orders are to proceed
immediately with the complete incineration of Iran's nuclear
infrastructure.
LOL! Did you order him to give up Gaza, too?
You know, the problem there Stuart was that there were so few
*settlers* in the Gaza Strip vs indigenous Palestinians/Arabs. That
it became a nightmare for the Israeli Army to provide protection for
these scattered few encampments.
So what they did, IMO, was consolidate their resources for security
reasons. That's the party line. The truth is it was *sacrificed*
territory that Sharon fed to the maggots in hopes that this would open
the door to Peace Negotiations.
As I could have told you before this was done, it backfired in
Sharon's face, and now he has Kassum rockets coming over the fence
into his back yard up in the West Bank.
Israel's problem is that it has become infested with communist Jews who
don't like nationalism, hate Israel and tell the story that they can get
along with the Islmofascist by signing KumbyeYah with them. Israel of
today is not the nation of survivors of the death camps. Modern Israel
is full of self loathing idiots who seem to have a death wish.
I couldn't AGREE with you more. They're not BEHAVING like they want
to LIVE much longer, are they.
I will not help them if they are not going to help themselves. Giving
up your turf isn't a *survival* strategy that passes my sniff-test.
Lg
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29 Oct 2005 11:07:01 PM |
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Lawrence_Glickman wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:31:38 -0700, Stuart Grey
<stuart.grey@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
Lawrence_Glickman wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:47:37 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tao8f.7776$ki7.577744@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Lawrence_Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b403m1hq1cuid2k916ghc9gkh6la12cup6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Yep, they'll have to take out the installation the way they took out Saddam's...and to hell with
what the rest of the world thinks!
============================================================================
Iran has evolved into the most dangerous nation. They must be neutralized with extreme prejudice and
violence. They have to be hit extremely hard with a huge air assault. The US also has to be prepared
to use FAE to guard the Iran-Iraq border against human wave attacks. It'll be brutal but worth it in
the long run. It's the only thing they understand.
Yes, unfortunately, I have to agree fully with this assessment. This
isn't a situation that is going to *blow over* as someone else
suggested. Iran is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. As enumarated by the
U.S. Secretary of State and others in the Administration.
============================================================================
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
These self-righteous bastards only understand one thing, and that is
Brute Force. They will have to be bombed back into the Stone Age in
order for the threat they present to be neutralized.
Moslems will behave well enough, IF YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND. If you
don't, they will try to either kill you or turn you into a subhuman dhimmi.
My orders have been passed on to Sharon. My orders are to proceed
immediately with the complete incineration of Iran's nuclear
infrastructure.
LOL! Did you order him to give up Gaza, too?
You know, the problem there Stuart was that there were so few
*settlers* in the Gaza Strip vs indigenous Palestinians/Arabs. That
it became a nightmare for the Israeli Army to provide protection for
these scattered few encampments.
So what they did, IMO, was consolidate their resources for security
reasons. That's the party line. The truth is it was *sacrificed*
territory that Sharon fed to the maggots in hopes that this would open
the door to Peace Negotiations.
They shouldn't have left Gaza. They offered it to Egypt, but Egypt
didn't want it if it came with Palestinians. They should just push the
entire Palestinian population back to Jordan and Egypt. The problem with
that approach is that the other Arabs don't want them, because even
among the Arabs, the Palestianians are regarded as a pain in the hind
end. Consider that the Jordanians had to kick them out because they
tried to over throw King Hussain, and the Palestinians in Egypt murdered
President Saddat.
As I could have told you before this was done, it backfired in
Sharon's face, and now he has Kassum rockets coming over the fence
into his back yard up in the West Bank.
Israel's problem is that it has become infested with communist Jews who
don't like nationalism, hate Israel and tell the story that they can get
along with the Islmofascist by signing KumbyeYah with them. Israel of
today is not the nation of survivors of the death camps. Modern Israel
is full of self loathing idiots who seem to have a death wish.
I couldn't AGREE with you more. They're not BEHAVING like they want
to LIVE much longer, are they.
For the sake of the decent people in Israel, I don't want to see it
wiped out. Right now, it looks like there is a major threat from Iran.
But even in the long run, Israel is under a different kind of threat;
the Arabs can simply out breed the people of Israel, and become a
majority. When that happens, they get Dhimmi status or worse; another
genocide.
I will not help them if they are not going to help themselves. Giving
up your turf isn't a *survival* strategy that passes my sniff-test.
Lg
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30 Oct 2005 12:26:28 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:31:38 -0700, Stuart Grey
<stuart.grey@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
These self-righteous bastards only understand one thing, and that is
Brute Force. They will have to be bombed back into the Stone Age in
order for the threat they present to be neutralized.
Moslems will behave well enough, IF YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND. If you
don't, they will try to either kill you or turn you into a subhuman dhimmi.
Much like the Germans actually. Either at your throat or under your
boot.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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30 Oct 2005 12:22:57 AM |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:31:38 -0700, Stuart Grey
<stuart.grey@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
These self-righteous bastards only understand one thing, and that is
Brute Force. They will have to be bombed back into the Stone Age in
order for the threat they present to be neutralized.
Moslems will behave well enough, IF YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND. If you
don't, they will try to either kill you or turn you into a subhuman dhimmi.
Much like the Germans actually. Either at your throat or under your
boot.
Yeah. Those Germans got a little difficult when the British and French
starved them to death after WW I, when they were under the allies boot.
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Lawrence_Glickman wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Lg
misc.survivalism
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& that's when things will start to get *veeeeeery* interesting !
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
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From: Stuart Grey <stuart.g...@nospam.comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:25:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 27 2005 8:25 am
Subject: The coming Iran-Israel war.
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Consider this:
Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/middleeast/26cnd-iran...
(Note that the Jewish run NYT is actually ANTI-Israel. It's a long
story...)
IT would be foolish to think that Israel would just let itself be
exterminated as the President of Iran wants. There will be a nuclear
exchanges.
So, have you guys got your bomb shelters dug yet? Mind you, you can put
it off until the bombs are flying, because the fallout will take a
couple of weeks to reach the United States.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Ewen MacAskill and Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday October 27, 2005
The Guardian
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday
by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off
the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than
his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian
attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
The populist leader's comments, reported by the state-run media, come
at a time when Tehran is under pressure over its suspect nuclear
weapons ambitions and alleged involvement in attacks on British troops
in Iraq.
He said: "Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the
Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the
Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of
the Islamic world." He was addressing a conference titled The World
Without Zionism.
His speech was immediately condemned by the US, Britain, France,
Germany and Israel. The Foreign Office could not recall a similar
statement from a senior Iranian leader since the former president
Hashemi Rafsanjani five years ago called for a Muslim state to
annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike. Since then, there has been a
mild thaw in relations between Muslim states, including Arab ones, and
Israel.
But Mr Ahmadinejad rejected compromise: "There is no doubt that the new
wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from
the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
The US and Britain are leading a push to have Iran referred to the UN
security council next month because of fears that it is covertly
engaged in securing a nuclear weapons capability by deciding to restart
a uranium conversion programme, an early step towards such an ability.
Tehran has repeatedly said its programme is for civil use only.
Both the US and Britain saw their fears about Mr Ahmadinejad's election
confirmed when he made a fiery speech at a UN summit in New York in
September. His predecessor, Muhammad Khatami, had tried to improve
links with the west and been less vocal in condemnation of Israel.
The US said the president's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's
fears. "I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the
regime. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear
intentions," Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said.
Mark Regev, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said: "Unfortunately
this is not the first time that we've heard such an extremist message
from the Iranian leadership. I think there is a growing understanding
in the international community that the regime is not Israel's problem
alone, but a problem the entire international community must grapple
with."
Israel views Iran as its main security threat in the Middle East. The
defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, has said Tehran could be capable of
developing a nuclear weapon within months and that there is a need for
urgent action to prevent that.
Israel has issued thinly veiled threats against Iran's nuclear
programme if diplomatic efforts fail and is buying 500 "bunker-buster"
bombs from the US that could be used to destroy the facilities. The
Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, raised the question of the
nuclear programme with the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov, in Jerusalem yesterday. Russia is selling nuclear fuel for the
reactors to Iran, despite Israel's objections.
France and Germany expressed concern about Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks
yesterday. Jean-Baptiste Mattei, a French foreign ministry spokesman,
said: "We have noted press articles reporting the comments of President
Ahmadinejad. If these comments were indeed made, we condemn them with
the utmost firmness." A German foreign ministry spokesman, Walter
Lindner, said: "Should these comments have actually been made, they are
completely unacceptable and to be condemned in the sharpest terms."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1601414,00.html
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28 Oct 2005 02:34:14 AM |
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In article <1130484464.329124.273390@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Xa
Ta Zac Xa Ta Amac <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Lawrence_Glickman wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:45:26 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
And the means.
But that may change shortly if/when Iran goes nuclear, as they already
have the delivery system for the warhead developed.
Israel is a small place ( about the size of New Jersey ). It wouldn't
take much in the way of mega-tonage to take it off the planet.
By the same token, a pre-emptive strike on Israel's part may be the
only choice it has. The longer Israel waits, the less chance they are
going to have to survive. They must make a decisive move very very
soon.
Lg
misc.survivalism
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& that's when things will start to get *veeeeeery* interesting !
HOOROO
I'm looking forward to it.
The Zionists hit Iran and Syria and Egypt with their fairly primitive
A-bomb technology, with maybe one or two "Mike" level H-bombs, and then
we Aryans obliterate the Jew state once and for all.
"Oops."
Then, of course, the Jew spies in America will be dealt with, in the
Night of a Million Cuts.
So I say to the Zionists, "bring it on!"
--Tim May
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28 Oct 2005 07:17:01 AM |
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"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
news:281020050034149735%timcmay@removethis.got.net...
The Zionists hit Iran and Syria and Egypt with their fairly primitive
A-bomb technology, with maybe one or two "Mike" level H-bombs, and then
we Aryans obliterate the Jew state once and for all.
--Tim May
Aryan, my *****.... See what that sort of thinking did for Germany. There
has never been
a superior overrace.
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28 Oct 2005 10:21:41 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:17:01 GMT, <HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:
"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
news:281020050034149735%timcmay@removethis.got.net...
The Zionists hit Iran and Syria and Egypt with their fairly primitive
A-bomb technology, with maybe one or two "Mike" level H-bombs, and then
we Aryans obliterate the Jew state once and for all.
--Tim May
Aryan, my *****.... See what that sort of thinking did for Germany. There
has never been
a superior overrace.
Not counting the Finns and Welsh of course. We keep a low profile as
we pull the strings of the rest of the planet. Few people know of the
Fino-Welsh Overlords, which is just hunky dorey with us.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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28 Oct 2005 11:43:17 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:21:41 GMT, Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:17:01 GMT, <HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:
"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
news:281020050034149735%timcmay@removethis.got.net...
The Zionists hit Iran and Syria and Egypt with their fairly primitive
A-bomb technology, with maybe one or two "Mike" level H-bombs, and then
we Aryans obliterate the Jew state once and for all.
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"We Aryans"? Who might that be.
Of one thing I am certain. You will be watching this on your TiVO and
not participating in the action.
As far as I've been able to determine, all you ever do is eat, *****,
sleep, and fart through your keyboard.
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Lg
--Tim May
Aryan, my *****.... See what that sort of thinking did for Germany. There
has never been
a superior overrace.
Not counting the Finns and Welsh of course. We keep a low profile as
we pull the strings of the rest of the planet. Few people know of the
Fino-Welsh Overlords, which is just hunky dorey with us.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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29 Oct 2005 03:35:25 AM |
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dreamwalker wrote:
Israel is the only country who has the balls to blow the dogs off the map.
Incline to agree. With holocausts and previous massacres and oppression
in mind, Israel has an official policy - 'Masada will not fall again'.
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The CO
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30 Oct 2005 04:12:22 AM |
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I'm simply a messanger.
I read my bible, you can believe this or disbelieve it.
I won't write the scripture here because you might actually believe me.
Here's my intrepreatation, pretty close to Lord of the Rings,
The King has returned,
We have been in day three for a short time,
"The King" Arragorn(US) comes on the third day,
Only His sword(soul) is broken,
He goes to heal it,
He chooses the time,
He is here and will act on the fourth day,
Israel will believe they are so super duper and Islam will believe it
to,
Israel builds a false god(U.S.A) and the kings of this world bow down
to it,
But the Lord Islam will not,
Islam will try to destroy it,
Destorying Islam's image of God,
And lifting up their God,
They will create a distraction to enable the Aaragorn(US) to work,
Then the children of God will judge as God sees fit,
God is here,
He has never left you, nor forsake you,
He is a God of all nations and all races,
Islam, Israel and many other nations are deceived,
You will not see US,
You will only hear of US,
Jewish society is the all seeing eye,
Even though the Lord's attempt to destory the U.S.A,
They will not find Aaragorn(US),
We are the children of God,
We will overcome the all seeing eye,
Just like in the Lord of the Rings,
Then a new age of enlightenment will begin,
Make straight your paths,
We are here Mankind/Creation.
Disclaimer
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None of this is true, it's only another Christian,
call to salvation.
For judgement arrives.
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Chuckle, would you believe this?
Go to Church and pray to God
Chuckle Chuckle
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Give all your money away,
Because you won't need it,
When you go to the earth on the chosen day
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Or perhaps Mankind will defeat the image,
For you give unto the Lords and the King's
Who gives unto the God who lives in you!
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Your's in Truth
In good and evil.
You decide what is your Truth
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29 Oct 2005 06:15:46 PM |
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Oh but those times are a changin':
LB
C3Q90. The great Satyr and Tiger of Hyrcania 1, Gift presented to
those of the Ocean: A fleet's chief will set out from Carmania 2, One
who will take land at the Tyrren Phocaean 3.
1 Hyrcania =3DThe south eastern shore of the Caspian Sea, part of Persia.
2 presented to =3D Or possibly by (in which case, see 378)
3 Carmania =3D The part of Persia at the mouth of the Persian Gulf or
Afghanistan
4 Tyrren phocean =3D enigmatic place name presumably a seaport of Italy
or France or possibly 2 ports Genoa and Marseilles
XC. Le grand Satyre et Tigre d'Hyrcanie, Dont present=E9 =E0 ceux de
l'Oc=E9an: Un chef classe 1 ira de Carmanie, Qui prendra terre au Tyrren
Phocean.
1 classe =3D Latin classis, fleet
C8Q96. The sterile synagogue without any fruit, will be received by the
infidels, the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon, miserable
and sad 7, they will clip her wings.
7 miserable and sad her wings will be clipped =3D Or misery and sadness
will clip her wings
XCVI. La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit Sera receu entre les
infideles De Babylon la fille du porsuit Misere et triste lui trenchera
les aisles.
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29 Oct 2005 11:20:07 PM |
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They are indeed !!!
Yes siree yes indeedy deedy do !!!
Gerbil stew, anyone ?!?! ;-) ;-)
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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27 Oct 2005 08:25:47 PM |
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Not just Iran-Israel but Iran vs USA, Syrie vs USA , China vs Taiwan & USA,
North Corea vs USA and World vs USA & Englan & Israel & $$$$
The doomsday is coming up watch your six guys The UStAr will fallen upon
us.....
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
1130387130.057450.314970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Well, it has been prophesied that 2006 will be a year of TOTAL
WAR........
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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Stuart Grey wrote on Oct 27, 8:25 am
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