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User: "Edmond Wollmann"
Date: 19 Oct 2004 09:31:39 PM
Object: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result
"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated that it
will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage no., or
the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the Buccaneers
winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as an
average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u1017531868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=

I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is done
as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President) and
has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and rules
the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo and
Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a con w
Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h) is
ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the 3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to extract
himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the 5th,
the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will have
to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the game, Mer
(which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I like
you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at the
most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in it.
Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful indicators
to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for winning a
contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of the
game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest of
Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and fair
inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if the
"control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak and
confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what will
bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the 2000
Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to it to
the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan

I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4121955890d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=8uav32%2469%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
and that Kerry would win the debates and then the Presidency.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=The+Downfall+of+George+W.+Bush&hl=en&lr=&selm=35325a08.0404201902.8c5cb75%40posting.google.com&rnum=3
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl890778155d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=35325a08.0409302105.3b37508a%40posting.google.com
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2004 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU
.

User: "Ray Villeneuve"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 28 Oct 2004 03:50:22 PM
"Edmond Wollmann" <alchameth2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:35325a08.0410191831.1cbb1b7e@posting.google.com...

"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated that it
will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage no., or
the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the Buccaneers
winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as an
average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u1017531868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=

I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is done
as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President) and
has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and rules
the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo and
Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a con w
Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h) is
ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the 3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to extract
himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the 5th,
the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will have
to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the game, Mer
(which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I like
you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at the
most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in it.
Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful indicators
to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for winning a
contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of the
game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest of
Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and fair
inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if the
"control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak and
confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what will
bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the 2000
Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to it to
the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan


I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4121955890d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=8uav32%2469%241%40nnrp1.deja.com

and that Kerry would win the debates and then the Presidency.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=The+Downfall+of+George+W.+Bush&hl=en&lr=&selm=35325a08.0404201902.8c5cb75%40posting.google.com&rnum=3

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl890778155d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=35325a08.0409302105.3b37508a%40posting.google.com

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2004 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU

As if astrology could predict anything.. its 50/50 these are the greatest
odds in the world, if your right, then you claim you predicted it with your
mumbo jumbo.If your not right, then you just slink away..... and claim that
astrology is not an exact science. Its *****. Having all these
complicated doodads to talk about and remember doesn't make astrology real.
if you really want to impress someone, give us a winning lotto ticket
number, now THAT's prediction.
Otherwise, this prediction of yours is just mental masturbation.
IMHO, of course.
btw, I think the American people are so fucking stupid, that they will
re-elect bush
ray
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 29 Oct 2004 08:56:18 AM
Ray Villeneuve a écrit:

"Edmond Wollmann" <alchameth2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:35325a08.0410191831.1cbb1b7e@posting.google.com...

"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated that it
will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage no., or
the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the Buccaneers
winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as an
average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u1017531868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=

I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is done
as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President) and
has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and rules
the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo and
Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a con w
Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h) is
ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the 3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to extract
himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the 5th,
the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will have
to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the game, Mer
(which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I like
you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at the
most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in it.
Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful indicators
to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for winning a
contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of the
game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest of
Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and fair
inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if the
"control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak and
confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what will
bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the 2000
Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to it to
the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan


I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4121955890d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=8uav32%2469%241%40nnrp1.deja.com

and that Kerry would win the debates and then the Presidency.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=The+Downfall+of+George+W.+Bush&hl=en&lr=&selm=35325a08.0404201902.8c5cb75%40posting.google.com&rnum=3

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl890778155d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=35325a08.0409302105.3b37508a%40posting.google.com

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2004 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU




As if astrology could predict anything.. its 50/50 these are the greatest
odds in the world, if your right, then you claim you predicted it with your
mumbo jumbo.If your not right, then you just slink away..... and claim that
astrology is not an exact science. Its *****. Having all these
complicated doodads to talk about and remember doesn't make astrology real.

if you really want to impress someone, give us a winning lotto ticket
number, now THAT's prediction.
Otherwise, this prediction of yours is just mental masturbation.

IMHO, of course.
btw, I think the American people are so fucking stupid, that they will
re-elect bush

ray

In the times when people really believed in astrology, the odds were
slightly higher and still can be, just because people would make the
odds in its favor by lending faith to it.
But I agree that it doesn't mean it is true even if it may seem to work
because of that.
J.


.


User: "Dan Baldwin"

Title: "Only fools predict" - Ed Wollmann 20 Oct 2004 01:10:08 PM
Edmond Wollmann wrote:



I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency

"Only fools predict-like someone I recall about OJ? Projecting
probabilities is the only POSSIBLE scenario, because all have free will"
- Ed in msg ID <33337E1E.1AC8@aznet.net>
So by your own definition you are a fool. Thanks for coming to your
senses, OCD Boi
--
Dan Baldwin, unethical *by design*
I am a minion of Satan, but my powers are mainly administrative.
Hail the un-alive
.

User: "Seth Bullock"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 20 Oct 2004 03:15:26 AM
Edmond Wollmann wrote:

"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated that it
will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage no., or
the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the Buccaneers
winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as an
average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u1017531868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=

I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is done
as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President) and
has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and rules
the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo and
Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a con w
Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h) is
ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the 3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to extract
himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the 5th,
the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will have
to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the game, Mer
(which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I like
you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at the
most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in it.
Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful indicators
to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for winning a
contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of the
game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest of
Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and fair
inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if the
"control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak and
confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what will
bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the 2000
Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to it to
the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan



I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency

Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.
You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 20 Oct 2004 04:10:49 AM
Seth Bullock a écrit:

Edmond Wollmann wrote:

"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated that
it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage
no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the Buccaneers
winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as an
average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u1017531868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=


I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is done
as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a
con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h)
is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the
3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if
I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the
5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in it.
Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of the
game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest of
Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and fair
inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if
the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak and
confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what will
bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the 2000
Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to it
to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.

Not unlike So11og in final analysis.
Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com on
John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL
;-)
J.
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 20 Oct 2004 04:55:26 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:tYpdd.21910$cr4.221@edtnps84...



Seth Bullock a écrit:

Edmond Wollmann wrote:

"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated that
it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage
no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the Buccaneers
winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will

win.


This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as an
average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753
1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=



I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is

done

as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a
con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h)
is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the
3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if
I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the
5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in

it.

Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of the
game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest of
Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and fair
inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if
the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak

and

confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what will
bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the 2000
Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to it
to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.

Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.

Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com on
John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL

Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu hairy old
dope-smoker.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
.
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Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated

that

it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage
no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the

Buccaneers

winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will

win.


This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as

an

average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is


http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753

1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=



I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is

done

as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a
con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h)
is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the
3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if
I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the
5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in

it.

Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of

the

game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest

of

Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and

fair

inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if
the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak

and

confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what

will

bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the

2000

Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to

it

to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.



Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.


Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com on
John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL


Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu hairy

old

dope-smoker.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Jean knew that Vietnam was 'the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the wrong
place'.
He protested by not protesting ... I guess.
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Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 20 Oct 2004 05:58:46 PM
Bah all he can make is lie about my personal life and shows to the world
that he has absolutely no legitimacy on a nostradamus NG, that he hates
the prophet, despise the whole concept, or even God, and yet, like you,
he is here only to spam is anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.
At least this much is evident to the world.
J.
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Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated


that

it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage
no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the


Buccaneers

winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will


win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as


an

average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is


http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753

1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=


I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is


done

as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a
con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h)
is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the
3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if
I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the
5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in


it.

Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of


the

game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest


of

Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and


fair

inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if
the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak


and

confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what


will

bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the


2000

Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to


it

to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.



Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.



Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com on
John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL


Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu hairy


old

dope-smoker.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




Jean knew that Vietnam was 'the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the wrong
place'.

He protested by not protesting ... I guess.


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User: "tw"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 21 Oct 2004 05:23:16 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Bah all he can make is lie about my personal life and shows to the world

It's not a lie that you smoked dope, Jean. YOU keep admitting this. It is,
however an absolute lie that I have ever made a post which ANYONE other than
you regards as ant-semitic.

that he has absolutely no legitimacy on a nostradamus NG, that he hates
the prophet

LOL! What prophet? I don't hate anyone or anything, Jean. I leave that to
drug.crazed mental cases like you.

despise the whole concept

You misspelled "ridicule", you feeble minded savage.

, or even God,

Which god?

and yet, like you,
he is here only to spam is anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.

Liar

At least this much is evident to the world.

The world inside your dope addled head, fraud.


J.

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Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated


that

it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage
no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the


Buccaneers

winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will


win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as


an

average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is



http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753


1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=


I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is


done

as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a
con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h)
is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the
3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if
I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the
5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in


it.

Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of


the

game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest


of

Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and


fair

inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if
the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak


and

confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what


will

bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the


2000

Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to


it

to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.



Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.



Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com

on

John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL


Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu hairy


old

dope-smoker.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




Jean knew that Vietnam was 'the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the

wrong

place'.

He protested by not protesting ... I guess.


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Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 21 Oct 2004 06:48:22 AM
All you can do is make up lies here on a NG where you don't have any
legitimacy. You are a pathetic little troll.
J.
tw a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Bah all he can make is lie about my personal life and shows to the world



It's not a lie that you smoked dope, Jean. YOU keep admitting this. It is,
however an absolute lie that I have ever made a post which ANYONE other than
you regards as ant-semitic.


that he has absolutely no legitimacy on a nostradamus NG, that he hates
the prophet



LOL! What prophet? I don't hate anyone or anything, Jean. I leave that to
drug.crazed mental cases like you.


despise the whole concept



You misspelled "ridicule", you feeble minded savage.


, or even God,



Which god?


and yet, like you,
he is here only to spam is anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.



Liar



At least this much is evident to the world.



The world inside your dope addled head, fraud.



J.

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Seth Bullock a écrit:



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"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
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Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated


that


it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage
no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the


Buccaneers


winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will


win.


This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as


an


average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is


http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753

1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=


I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is


done


as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a
con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h)
is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the
3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if
I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the
5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in


it.


Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of


the


game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest


of


Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and


fair


inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if
the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak


and


confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what


will


bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the


2000


Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to


it


to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.



Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.




Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com


on

John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL


Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu hairy


old


dope-smoker.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




Jean knew that Vietnam was 'the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the


wrong

place'.

He protested by not protesting ... I guess.


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User: "tw"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 21 Oct 2004 07:13:51 AM
THE CHALLENGE
I will reproduce this challenge which you have run
away from for the last two years:
EITHER:
1) Provide a post where I make an anti-semitic statement (I nominate
Woodswun and Katherine Wolf to be judges of whether it is anti-semitic
or not, if they agree)
OR
2) Apologise for you disgusting "anti-semite" smear
...and I will leave alt.prophecies.nostradamus for ever
Your constant failure to accept this challenge shows you don't even
believe the anti-semite smear yourself, and that you are too cowardly and
childish to admit you're wrong and apologise. In short, your pathetic ego
means more to you than the subject of Nostradamus
JEAN ACCEPTS THE CHALLENGE
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:misHc.19349018$Of.3209525@news.easynews.com...

You mean that what you just said 5 minutes ago, quote: "Jewish
[Christian, and Muslim Fundamentalists] are twisted Hypocrites, who
really pray to the devil." is not anti-Semite for the religious Jew?
But yes, if Woodshun that saying that is not an anti-Semite statement,

then we shall see.
JEAN LOSES THE CHALLENGE
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:npiJc.64672$bp1.2599@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

In article <cd3d76$793$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se>,
"tw" <no@no.com> wrote:

Quite simply, do you find following statement anti-semitic:

"Jewish Christian, Muslim (and any other religious stripe)
Fundamentalists
are twisted Hypocrites, who really pray to the devil."

Thanks in advance


Nope, it's pretty even handed against every group of fundies.

JEAN TRIES TO WRIGGLE OUT OF THE CHALLENGE BY REDEFINING THE STATEMENT UNDER
CONTENTION AS WELL AS THE DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM
In article <8ajJc.19677883$Id.3259321@news.easynews.com>,
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:

So it is anti-Semite, and anti Christian, and anti-Islamic, wouldn't you
agree?

JEAN LOSES THERE AS WELL!
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:npiJc.64698$bp1.31131@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
No, I wouldn't - it's anti-fundie. You can be pro-christian, and still be
anti-fundie-christian. In fact, I know quite a few regular churchgoers who
are in that category. I don't know anybody who can stand fundies of any
religion.

The first part is the main interest in the discussion.

That may be *your* main interest, but that's not what the threat started
off with, and I do think it's important to realize that fundamentalism is a
threat to freedoms and liberty if such groups are permitted excessive
influence over the government.
JEAN LIES ABOUT LOSING THE CHALLENGE AND STARTS MAKING THINGS UP!
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:5gtQc.52156$pF1.8177@news.easynews.com...

What Woods said was that it
was not ONLY anti-semite, that it was also an insult to the two other
monotheist religions.

--
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:qdnXc.152269$RY5.24085@news.easynews.com...
"On the other hand, I know I am
bunked and that you are debunked."
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:amNdd.26356$cr4.15221@edtnps84...

All you can do is make up lies here on a NG where you don't have any
legitimacy. You are a pathetic little troll.

J.


tw a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:G4Cdd.21498$_u6.19680@edtnps89...

Bah all he can make is lie about my personal life and shows to the world



It's not a lie that you smoked dope, Jean. YOU keep admitting this. It

is,

however an absolute lie that I have ever made a post which ANYONE other

than

you regards as ant-semitic.


that he has absolutely no legitimacy on a nostradamus NG, that he hates
the prophet



LOL! What prophet? I don't hate anyone or anything, Jean. I leave that

to

drug.crazed mental cases like you.


despise the whole concept



You misspelled "ridicule", you feeble minded savage.


, or even God,



Which god?


and yet, like you,
he is here only to spam is anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.



Liar



At least this much is evident to the world.



The world inside your dope addled head, fraud.



J.

Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:


"tw" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:cl5cg1$e5i$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se...


"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:tYpdd.21910$cr4.221@edtnps84...


Seth Bullock a écrit:



Edmond Wollmann wrote:



"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...



Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying),

I

stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated


that


it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a

percentage

no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the


Buccaneers


winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry

will


win.


This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as


an


average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is



http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753


1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=


I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is


done


as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course,

a

con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st

h)

is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in

the

3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently,

to

have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn

if

I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of

the

5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be

ruler

(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect

to

make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so

sorry!"

His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies

in


it.


Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of


the


game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest


of


Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and


fair


inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only

chance.

VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco

if

the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a

weak


and


confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what


will


bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the


2000


Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to


it


to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.



Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.




Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com


on

John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL


Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu

hairy


old


dope-smoker.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




Jean knew that Vietnam was 'the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the


wrong

place'.

He protested by not protesting ... I guess.


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User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 21 Oct 2004 07:26:01 AM
The proof is in your post.
J.
tw a écrit:

THE CHALLENGE

I will reproduce this challenge which you have run
away from for the last two years:

EITHER:

1) Provide a post where I make an anti-semitic statement (I nominate
Woodswun and Katherine Wolf to be judges of whether it is anti-semitic
or not, if they agree)

OR

2) Apologise for you disgusting "anti-semite" smear
..and I will leave alt.prophecies.nostradamus for ever

Your constant failure to accept this challenge shows you don't even
believe the anti-semite smear yourself, and that you are too cowardly and
childish to admit you're wrong and apologise. In short, your pathetic ego
means more to you than the subject of Nostradamus


JEAN ACCEPTS THE CHALLENGE


"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:misHc.19349018$Of.3209525@news.easynews.com...

You mean that what you just said 5 minutes ago, quote: "Jewish
[Christian, and Muslim Fundamentalists] are twisted Hypocrites, who
really pray to the devil." is not anti-Semite for the religious Jew?
But yes, if Woodshun that saying that is not an anti-Semite statement,

then we shall see.


JEAN LOSES THE CHALLENGE


"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:npiJc.64672$bp1.2599@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

In article <cd3d76$793$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se>,
"tw" <no@no.com> wrote:

Quite simply, do you find following statement anti-semitic:

"Jewish Christian, Muslim (and any other religious stripe)
Fundamentalists
are twisted Hypocrites, who really pray to the devil."

Thanks in advance


Nope, it's pretty even handed against every group of fundies.


JEAN TRIES TO WRIGGLE OUT OF THE CHALLENGE BY REDEFINING THE STATEMENT UNDER
CONTENTION AS WELL AS THE DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM

In article <8ajJc.19677883$Id.3259321@news.easynews.com>,
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:

So it is anti-Semite, and anti Christian, and anti-Islamic, wouldn't you
agree?



JEAN LOSES THERE AS WELL!

"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:npiJc.64698$bp1.31131@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

No, I wouldn't - it's anti-fundie. You can be pro-christian, and still be
anti-fundie-christian. In fact, I know quite a few regular churchgoers who
are in that category. I don't know anybody who can stand fundies of any
religion.

The first part is the main interest in the discussion.


That may be *your* main interest, but that's not what the threat started
off with, and I do think it's important to realize that fundamentalism is a
threat to freedoms and liberty if such groups are permitted excessive
influence over the government.

JEAN LIES ABOUT LOSING THE CHALLENGE AND STARTS MAKING THINGS UP!

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:5gtQc.52156$pF1.8177@news.easynews.com...

What Woods said was that it
was not ONLY anti-semite, that it was also an insult to the two other
monotheist religions.




--
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:qdnXc.152269$RY5.24085@news.easynews.com...

"On the other hand, I know I am
bunked and that you are debunked."


"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:amNdd.26356$cr4.15221@edtnps84...

All you can do is make up lies here on a NG where you don't have any
legitimacy. You are a pathetic little troll.

J.


tw a écrit:


"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:G4Cdd.21498$_u6.19680@edtnps89...


Bah all he can make is lie about my personal life and shows to the world



It's not a lie that you smoked dope, Jean. YOU keep admitting this. It


is,

however an absolute lie that I have ever made a post which ANYONE other


than

you regards as ant-semitic.



that he has absolutely no legitimacy on a nostradamus NG, that he hates
the prophet



LOL! What prophet? I don't hate anyone or anything, Jean. I leave that


to

drug.crazed mental cases like you.



despise the whole concept



You misspelled "ridicule", you feeble minded savage.



, or even God,



Which god?



and yet, like you,
he is here only to spam is anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.



Liar




At least this much is evident to the world.



The world inside your dope addled head, fraud.




J.

Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:



"tw" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:cl5cg1$e5i$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se...



"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:tYpdd.21910$cr4.221@edtnps84...



Seth Bullock a écrit:




Edmond Wollmann wrote:




"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...




Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying),


I

stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated


that



it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a


percentage

no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the


Buccaneers



winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry


will

win.



This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as


an



average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is


http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753

1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=



I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is


done



as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course,


a

con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st


h)

is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in


the

3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently,


to

have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn


if

I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of


the

5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be


ruler

(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the



game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect


to

make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so


sorry!"

His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies


in

it.



Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of


the



game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest


of



Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and


fair



inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only


chance.

VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco


if

the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a


weak

and



confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what


will



bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the


2000



Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to


it



to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.



Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.





Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com


on


John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL


Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu


hairy

old



dope-smoker.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




Jean knew that Vietnam was 'the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the


wrong


place'.

He protested by not protesting ... I guess.


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User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: The coming Presidential Elections - Predicted Result 20 Oct 2004 06:31:31 PM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:G4Cdd.21498$_u6.19680@edtnps89...

Bah all he can make is lie about my personal life and shows to the world
that he has absolutely no legitimacy on a nostradamus NG, that he hates
the prophet, despise the whole concept, or even God, and yet, like you,
he is here only to spam is anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.

At least this much is evident to the world.

J.

Nah, I'm here to spread anti-bushism.
I could honestly never hate another human being. We're all different, we're
each in our own distinct universe based on our own personal experiences,
some tragic, some happy, some so-so, but all the same in a way. We're all
human. We all experience the same range of emotions to varying degrees.
I originally came here because of the false prophecy of the 'twin brothers'
or whatever it was floating around right after 9-11 ... noticed the
political hub-bub bubbling and decided to hang around for a while ... over 3
years now.
And I'm sure there's been some threads where I've actually agreed with you
.... maybe not a lot but I'm sure there's some. I think our opinions of the
war on terror veered in opposite directions when The Coke Monkey pulled the
trigger on Iraq. Other then that we're like Siamese twins Jean ... You and
me ... Marv and Jean ... sharing a brain on the train to Oblivion. :-)

Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:

"tw" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:cl5cg1$e5i$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se...

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:tYpdd.21910$cr4.221@edtnps84...


Seth Bullock a écrit:


Edmond Wollmann wrote:


"Dan Barkye" <dbjes@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<4729d.6851$Vm1.6118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...


Hi, all!

Long but worthwhile -))

Once upon a time (how appropriately astrological is this saying), I
stated here that Kerry will take the elections and I also stated


that

it will be w a margin of winning of 8 (whether this is a percentage
no., or the no. of Electors, I don't know, and I cannot know) (I
explained my
system of predicting margins of winning in the case of the


Buccaneers

winning the Superbowl of 2002).

I used then, and now, the Horary discipline of Astrology.

Since more than six months have passed since this prediction, I am
making another, renewed one, in which I state again that Kerry will


win.

This time, too, it looks as if the Margin of Winning will be 9 (as


an

average), which is next to my previous 8.

The URL for this chart is



http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_swsfileDOnVHF-u101753


1868.3172.8847.gif&res=63&va=


I thank Alois for this very much.

The Chart Horary Analysis (NO outers, NO asteroids!!! ONLY the
traditional Seven Great Archons, fixed stars and Arabian Parts) is


done

as a contest.

In this chart Bush rules the 1st h (he is the incumbent President)
and has the Eastern hemisphere.

By default, Kerry, Bush's rival, has the Western hemisphere, and
rules the 7th.

The Eastern hemisphere is almost entirely deserted and has only Mo
and Sat in it, w Mo to make her Last Aspect in her current course, a
con w Sat, ruler of Bush's house of honor.
Though Mo (the significator of action in chart, and co-sig of 1st h)
is ruler (in Can), Sat is in detriment (in Can) and both are in the
3rd, a
cadent h - weakness.
It looks like the public, esp women (who are perceived, recently, to
have a crash on Bush, as a powerful constituent gr) love Bush.

Bush's ruler, Ven, is in fall, in Pis.
Though Ven is in MR w Mer, and so Bush looks like he's able to
extract himself from a weak situation, it's a "Damn if I do, damn if
I don't",
b/c if Ven is exchanged w Mer, then Bush loses his rulership of the
5th, the game, and gives it to another (though still remaining
CO-ruler of
5th).
I don't overlook the fact that Ven interchanged w Mer will be ruler
(will be in Lib). So, in order to give his ruler power, Bush will
have to relinquish control of the game to the natural ruler of the
game, Mer (which will be in Vir and ruler).
We'll come to this later in Kerry's analysis.

Analysis of Bush's data, so far:
The detrimental Sat will prevent Mo's fortunate (and last) aspect to
make its full impact on the election results. It's like Mo says "I
like you, Sat, but you're not powerful enough to make it, so sorry!"
His control of the game (Ven) is weak at the best, and illusory at
the most.

On to Kerry.
His half of chart is populated heavily, w the remaining 5 bodies in


it.

Moreover, Jup, Ven and P of F are all in his half, powerful
indicators to his luck in the contest, a prerequisite, really, for
winning a contest.

P of F rules his 10th h, his honor. Great!
His ruler, Mar, is in Lib, in detriment, and in 5th, the house of


the

game/contest, as co-ruler of the game w Ven, Bush's ruler.
It looks like he is controlled by Bush - Mar is in Lib, as a guest


of

Ven, and in Ven's term, there.

But Kerry can make good use of the Ven-Mer MR. He can extract the
control of the game from Bush's hands by demanding fair count and


fair

inspections and stick to this demand. This will be his only chance.
VERY IMPORTANT - it looks like there will be another count fiasco if
the "control of the game" won't be taken from Bush's hands - a weak


and

confused Ven.

Summary:
Kerry will be the next President.
He'll demand a fair count and fair inspections, and this is what


will

bring him to the White House. He won't allow a repetition of the


2000

Bush/Gore disaster. This will be his last ditch and he'll stick to


it

to the successful end.

The Margin of Winning will be 8 or 9 (percentage or Electors).

The Cheering Dan




I have already predicted the entire Bush presidency



Yes. Four years ago you said he would lose the election.

You do a lot of predictions, Wollfool. Too bad they're all WRONG.


Not unlike So11og in final analysis.



Or Nostradamus. Or rather Jean's insane delusions about NOstradamus.



Maybe he is like the audio file http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com

on

John kerry says, he has the "courage" to represent every position
possible. LOL


Like when you had teh "courage" to "serve by not serving" eh? YOu hairy


old

dope-smoker.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




Jean knew that Vietnam was 'the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the

wrong

place'.

He protested by not protesting ... I guess.


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