On 11 May 2007,

he told me he
was one of those "rare people who had come back from the dead." It
turned out he was technically dead for ten minutes, when doctors
severed an artery when he was having his stomach removed.

On 11 May 2007,

On May 10, 3:04 pm,

On May 10, 2:50 pm, David Schwartz <dav...@webmaster.com> wrote:

On May 7, 5:29 pm, "R. O'Connor" <rco...@invalid.com> wrote:

But I often wondered, What becomes of "Who we are" Where does soul go
after death., does it die with the body?

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I've written at some length about the experience with my father above.
Now his body was dead and his brain was dead. But he was still
talking and thinking and seeing, although in what fashion I don't
know. I was able to converse with him. This is despite the fact I
was making sound waves in air with a real larynx and vocal chords. He
had no vocal chords or larynx, so how were we communicating.
In the (comparatively rare) occurrences where angels greet humans in
the Bible, how did they communicate? The same problem applies. It
applies if someone has a stroke or is brain dead for that matter - the
body might live on, but the brain has, to a greater or lesser extent
lost its ability to oversee the body and think.
Yet if that person dies completely, then I believe their soul lives
on, unencumbered by the loss of brain function in earthly life. They
would, in a sense, come out of a coma.
I believe we have a soul. In fact, I'm sure of it. But where the
boundaries lie between mind and soul, life and death, or what the soul
is, are areas in which I have to plead complete ignorance.- Hide quoted text

To add to my post above - Just yesterday, quite by "coincidence" I
picked up a middle aged bloke in the maxi taxi I drive a couple of
times a week for a bit of extra income. Now I wrote earlier in the
incident about my father that the person who actually physically
informed me my father had died was my uncle, my Mother's brother to be
exact.
Now this is the interesting bit - right in the middle of the debate
with atheists about the soul etc, not only did the bloke I give the
lift happen to go to school with the eldest son of the above uncle,
the very man who told me about my father's death, but he told me he
was one of those "rare people who had come back from the dead." It
turned out he was technically dead for ten minutes, when doctors
severed an artery when he was having his stomach removed. Apparently
he eats now in very small amounts and often, since he no longer has a
stomach. He's in the nursing home because following the operation,
and his technical death, he kept having accidents, yet he's only a few
months older than I am (he's 53).
He told me that during his technical death, he could hear voices eg.
"Better go and get the registrar, and get him to write out the
certificate of death". Then later he heard "the body just shook",
"we'd better try again to see if we can revive him!" etc.
At one stage however, he told me he could see this intense white
light, and something seemed to be lifting him up into the air. Then a
voice seemed to say "Take him back".
As far as I'm concerned the fact that I met him right in the middle of
a debate with atheists, and mentioned it was my uncle who informed me
my father had died, and then I meet a bloke who was technically dead
for a full ten minutes, and who even went to the same school as the
eldest son of the above uncle, is to my mind more than coincidence.
He is, by the way, a Christian, as also turned out. After he told me
about his experience, I then told him about mine involving my father.
Because of his own technical death, he had no problem accepting it.
In addition it turns out we both had alcoholic fathers, and if
anything, his father was more physically cruel than mine was.
As far as I'm concerned it had the hand of divine manipulation on it.
But you won't think that. You'll write off as co-incindence.

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The famous Swiss psychologist/psychiatrist Carl Jung (1875-1961)
was really interested in synchronicities like you've described
(so was Pauli, et al), as meaningful, purposeful, intelligent,
unquestionably psychic, coincidence. It's a *serious* subject.

Remember the 70s/80s band 'The Police'? They did a song about it
called "Synchronicity". Psychics from all walks of life have to
live with often profound synchronicities every day of the week.
So those who're used to it have no problem believing others who
report even the most astonishing occurrences of synchronicity.

Of course, "unbelievers/fundies" write off everything that they
don't experience themselves--much less comprehend--as "insanity",
"kookery", "clap-trap", "trick of the devil", "demon-possession",
"witchcraft", ad nauseam. And that's as it should be. Those of
us who know better, understand that they're really afraid to go
there, so to speak. They're afraid to step out of their comfort
zone--as well they should be! The spirit world is definitely not
for those who feel uncomfortable with their supernatural powers,
ghosts, the circles of Heaven & Hell, with Satan, and the Devil,
etc., which is why they shut them off, and either deny it, mock
it, or simply mislabel it as "Satanism". They're simply cowards.

There's no question synchronicity is psychic, spiritual, divine,
universal law, ad infinitum.