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User: "Borked Pseudo Mailed"
Date: 20 Apr 2007 07:48:28 AM
Object: Re: The War on Truth
On 19 Apr 2007, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes
to the Father but by me." (John 14:6) There is not a part of this
verse that isn't under attack today.
The portion I want to focus on, today, is "the truth."
We hear the word "fundamentalist" today as if it were a dirty word.
It is applied to the terrorists, even though in most of the world they
are known as "extremists." How can one be both fundamental and
extreme? So, there must be an agenda behind the use of the term
fundamentalist. Do you want to know what that agenda is?
Christian fundamentalists believe God's word is true. God meant what
He said there. However, liberals of the day don't want to believe
anything is absolute. So, they must try to discredit any who disagree
(even though in doing so they proclaim their own view of pluralism
absolute). Their end goal is the pluralist society of Babylon, which
Daniel and others stood against. The problem? God is a jealous God,
and Jesus is the way (see another post on this later) to the Father.
So, pluralism ends in many that miss the truth and salvation.
And, that is the real tragedy, here.
Ken Clifton
christiansuperhero.com


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Not that Voltaire might've actually said this, or written this,
but one of my favorite (in this case, undocumented) quotations
is loosely attributed to the world-famous philosopher Voltaire:

"Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez,
My sire of the abbot, I detest that which you write,

mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
but I would give my life for that you have the puissance
continuer a ecrire."
to continue to write.

--alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter dated
6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.

Whether the witty French philosopher ever wrote this or not, it
is an excellent point, that religious, scientific, intellectual,
philosophical, political, etc. disagreement promotes discussion
and understanding--among those who practice freedom of religion
and freedom of speech responsibly in the public forum.
As it stands today, Atheists strictly control the curriculum of
America's public schools, the courts, and generally control the
government. But "fundamentalists" like you are no better, since
you want your own particular view on Christianity to be imposed
as the law of the land. You leave no room for other Christians,
or Atheists, or Jews, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, etc.,
who don't necessarily share (all of) your particular religious
beliefs, or convictions, interpretations and misinterpretations,
much less agree on how you're defining terms in the first place.

That's why we have the Universal Ten Commandments & Golden Rule,
which is the cornerstone of civilization. Civilized humans tend
to agree with these paramount Commandments, whereas uncivilized
humans tend to be uncivilized, and hold His Sermons in contempt.

Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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User: "Hatto von Aquitanien"

Title: Re: The War on Truth 20 Apr 2007 08:28:29 AM
Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:

On 19 Apr 2007, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes
to the Father but by me." (John 14:6) There is not a part of this
verse that isn't under attack today.
The portion I want to focus on, today, is "the truth."
We hear the word "fundamentalist" today as if it were a dirty word.
It is applied to the terrorists, even though in most of the world they
are known as "extremists."

Ha! Someone has been listening!

How can one be both fundamental and extreme? So, there must be an agenda
behind the use of the term fundamentalist. Do you want to know what that
agenda is?
Christian fundamentalists believe God's word is true. God meant what
He said there.

There are other ways of understanding what the legend of Jesus of Nazareth
means.

However, liberals of the day don't want to believe
anything is absolute. So, they must try to discredit any who disagree
(even though in doing so they proclaim their own view of pluralism
absolute). Their end goal is the pluralist society of Babylon, which
Daniel and others stood against.

Liberals? Boy, they got you snowed!

The problem? God is a jealous God,
and Jesus is the way (see another post on this later) to the Father.
So, pluralism ends in many that miss the truth and salvation.
And, that is the real tragedy, here.
Ken Clifton
christiansuperhero.com

Heil Óðinn!

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Not that Voltaire might've actually said this, or written this,
but one of my favorite (in this case, undocumented) quotations
is loosely attributed to the world-famous philosopher Voltaire:

"Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez,
My sire of the abbot, I detest that which you write,

mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
but I would give my life for that you have the puissance

continuer a ecrire."
to continue to write.

--alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter dated
6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.

Whether the witty French philosopher ever wrote this or not, it
is an excellent point, that religious, scientific, intellectual,
philosophical, political, etc. disagreement promotes discussion
and understanding--among those who practice freedom of religion
and freedom of speech responsibly in the public forum.

As it stands today, Atheists strictly control the curriculum of
America's public schools, the courts, and generally control the
government. But "fundamentalists" like you are no better, since
you want your own particular view on Christianity to be imposed
as the law of the land. You leave no room for other Christians,
or Atheists, or Jews, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, etc.,
who don't necessarily share (all of) your particular religious
beliefs, or convictions, interpretations and misinterpretations,
much less agree on how you're defining terms in the first place.

That's why we have the Universal Ten Commandments & Golden Rule,
which is the cornerstone of civilization. Civilized humans tend
to agree with these paramount Commandments, whereas uncivilized
humans tend to be uncivilized, and hold His Sermons in contempt.

Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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User: "franckspike"

Title: Re: The War on Truth 20 Apr 2007 08:54:55 AM
correct french to english translation without loosing the meaning:
"Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous
ecrivez,
My sire of the abbot, I detest what you write,
mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
but I would give my life so that you can
continuer a ecrire."
continue to write.
--alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter
dated
6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.
.
User: "franckspike"

Title: Re: The War on Truth 20 Apr 2007 08:57:48 AM
sorry, an other error... this is the correct one
"Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez,
My sire of the abbot, I detest what you write,
mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
but I will give my life so that you can
continuer a ecrire."
continue to write.
--alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter
dated
6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.
.
User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: The War on Truth 20 Apr 2007 01:33:23 PM
On Apr 20, 6:57 am, franckspike <francksp...@gmail.com> wrote:

sorry, an other error... this is the correct one

"Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez,
My sire of the abbot, I detest what you write,

mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
but I will give my life so that you can

continuer a ecrire."
continue to write.

--alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter
dated
6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.

"I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible
for you to continue to write." [Voltaire, in a letter to M. le Riche,
Feb. 6, 1770. According to _They Never Said It_ (Paul F. Boller &
John George), OUP, 1989, p. 125, it was not Voltaire, but his
biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1868-1919) writing under the pen
name S.G. Tallentyre, paraphrasing Voltaire's attitude regarding a
book censorship case in 1798. The phrase "I disapprove of what you
say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is from S.G.
Tallentyre _The Friends of Voltaire_ (London, 1906), 176-205.]
http://htomc.dns2go.com/atheism/cookie.41b
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