Tempest a écrit :
Jean Guernon, Well Known Alt.Prophecies.Nostradamus Newsgroup Loon
wrote:
As usual you are the liar. They say nothing, that is not lying. YOU
don't trust them, that is YOUR problem. One cannot lie if one keeps
secret the reason for getting at hostiles.
Ergo: The liar (you) is always debunked.
If Iraq is so bad, why does the Bush Administration have to repeatedly
Lie to start a war?
1. Powell relies on FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
MSNBC: "They have been the closest of allies. But under the intense
pressure of a diplomatic crisis at the United Nations and an imminent
war in Iraq, the friendship between the United States and Britain is
beginning to fray. The most recent strain emerged when U.N. nuclear
inspectors concluded last week that U.S. and British claims about Iraq's
secret nuclear program were based on forged documents. The fake letters
supposedly laid out how Iraqi agents had tried to purchase uranium from
officials in Niger, central Africa."
MORE: http://www.msnbc.com/news/883164.asp?cp1=1
[snip the rest of the *****]
Bah, we all know about those documents. This doesn't cahnge that the
nuclear program is real. The Nigeria documents are the ONLY faulty
intelligence, and documents made up by whom? Muslim whose goal was to
discredit the US.
The nuclear program is a proven reality:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were shown exclusively to
CNN at CIA headquarters in Virginia.
Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching
uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system he was ordered to
hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb program.
"I have very important things at my disposal that I have been ordered to
have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I don't want this to proliferate,
because of its potential consequences if it falls in the hands of
tyrants, in the hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who
has been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.
Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to hide that type
of equipment.
"I think there may be more than three other copies. And I think it is
quite important to look at this list so they will not fall into the
hands of the wrong people," he said.
(...)
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
J.
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04 Jul 2003 07:13:29 PM |
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Between the Israelis and the UN Saddam's nukyalar program was kaput.
Nothing was found of it in the recent UN inspections and we have found
NOTHING to date.
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:3F061861.8A7DA3C@globetrotter.net...
Tempest a écrit :
Jean Guernon, Well Known Alt.Prophecies.Nostradamus Newsgroup Loon
wrote:
As usual you are the liar. They say nothing, that is not lying. YOU
don't trust them, that is YOUR problem. One cannot lie if one keeps
secret the reason for getting at hostiles.
Ergo: The liar (you) is always debunked.
If Iraq is so bad, why does the Bush Administration have to repeatedly
Lie to start a war?
1. Powell relies on FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
MSNBC: "They have been the closest of allies. But under the intense
pressure of a diplomatic crisis at the United Nations and an imminent
war in Iraq, the friendship between the United States and Britain is
beginning to fray. The most recent strain emerged when U.N. nuclear
inspectors concluded last week that U.S. and British claims about Iraq's
secret nuclear program were based on forged documents. The fake letters
supposedly laid out how Iraqi agents had tried to purchase uranium from
officials in Niger, central Africa."
MORE: http://www.msnbc.com/news/883164.asp?cp1=1
[snip the rest of the *****]
Bah, we all know about those documents. This doesn't cahnge that the
nuclear program is real. The Nigeria documents are the ONLY faulty
intelligence, and documents made up by whom? Muslim whose goal was to
discredit the US.
The nuclear program is a proven reality:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were shown exclusively to
CNN at CIA headquarters in Virginia.
Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching
uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system he was ordered to
hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb program.
"I have very important things at my disposal that I have been ordered to
have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I don't want this to proliferate,
because of its potential consequences if it falls in the hands of
tyrants, in the hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who
has been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.
Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to hide that type
of equipment.
"I think there may be more than three other copies. And I think it is
quite important to look at this list so they will not fall into the
hands of the wrong people," he said.
(...)
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
J.
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04 Jul 2003 07:41:08 PM |
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Sid9 a écrit :
Between the Israelis and the UN Saddam's nukyalar program was kaput.
Nothing was found of it in the recent UN inspections and we have found
NOTHING to date.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were shown exclusively to
CNN at CIA headquarters in Virginia.
Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching
uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system he was ordered to
hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb program.
"I have very important things at my disposal that I have been ordered to
have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I don't want this to proliferate,
because of its potential consequences if it falls in the hands of
tyrants, in the hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who
has been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.
Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to hide that type
of equipment.
"I think there may be more than three other copies. And I think it is
quite important to look at this list so they will not fall into the
hands of the wrong people," he said.
(...)
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| User: "scroff" |
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05 Jul 2003 02:09:45 PM |
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Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
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Any Which Way
-because there's more to it than Fox tells you-
http://www.anywhichway.net
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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05 Jul 2003 05:26:30 PM |
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
J.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." |
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05 Jul 2003 06:09:13 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
Help me with the physics.
Do a few parts from a centrifuge cause a nuclear explosion?
If they are underground in a barrel?
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
It isn't actually a fact. It is something a scientist said. Those
words of the scientist - got him a home in the USA. It is entirely
possible that he buried the blueprints years ago anticipating that he
might use them to assure a future job, or to sell them for many
millions of dollars to some other nation.
But assuming that in 1991 Saddam's son told him - bury these - we
might need them later - it proves that Iraq had not yet decided to
resume its nuclear programme.
And that when President Bush told us that they were developing nukes -
he wasn't telling us the truth. Because the FIRST thing they would do
were they to develop the things would be to dig up blueprints.
As to legality - if you think those who transgress should be punished,
isn't President Bush guilty of a capital offense in launching an
unprovoked illegal war based on lies? International criminal law DOES
provide for the death penalty for such criminal behavior. A poll of
experts on international law - would likely find our attack - illegal.
So do you really support - consequences for illegal behavior - or was
that just something you think should apply to other people - and not
to Americans? Death penalty for PResident Bush?
Yeah - it's about American reverence for obeying the law, that's
right.
That's why we invaded.
J.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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05 Jul 2003 08:00:43 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
Help me with the physics.
Do a few parts from a centrifuge cause a nuclear explosion?
If they are underground in a barrel?
Jeez you are totally null if you have no clue to that extent.
It merely enrich uranium.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
It isn't actually a fact. It is something a scientist said. Those
words of the scientist - got him a home in the USA. It is entirely
possible that he buried the blueprints years ago anticipating that he
might use them to assure a future job, or to sell them for many
millions of dollars to some other nation.
No, you don't get it, like the other null ("ya"). It WAS illegal to have
them under the UN sanctions, period.
They were hidden becasue they were illegal, That is why they were
actively sought by the UN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
Quote:
-----------------------------
"There's no way that that would have been discovered by normal
international inspections. I couldn't have done it. My successors
couldn't have done it."
Kay said he had mixed emotions when he saw the centrifuge components:
"It was a realization that I hadn't gotten all the parts [of Iraq's
nuclear program]. So there was a moment of regret, but there was also an
exhilaration that now maybe we have a chance to take this to the very
bottom."
-----------------------------
But assuming that in 1991 Saddam's son told him - bury these - we
might need them later - it proves that Iraq had not yet decided to
resume its nuclear programme.
Nuclear armament program. He needs only uranium to fire a nuclear
reactor. And the uranium must be provided through controled means. These
are designed to produce enriched uranium. Of no use in a regular
reactor. Only surgenerators use enriched uranium... or else, nukes.
And that when President Bush told us that they were developing nukes -
he wasn't telling us the truth. Because the FIRST thing they would do
were they to develop the things would be to dig up blueprints.
He was telling the truth. Blue prints would have shown what I just told
you.
As to legality - if you think those who transgress should be punished,
isn't President Bush guilty of a capital offense in launching an
unprovoked illegal war based on lies?
Nah, Saddam broke the conditions of the cease fire 1. by refusing to
give back the national archives of Kuwait, 2. by refusing to give any
detail about the priosonner of the war he waged agaisnt them, 3. by
threatening to annex them and also broke condition 32 of 687e, by giving
$25000 for each terrorist who murdered people.
International criminal law DOES
provide for the death penalty for such criminal behavior.
What are you talking about? Dreaming again?
A poll of
experts on international law - would likely find our attack - illegal.
Nah,. only buillshit assholes would agree with the reneghades, the
breaking of the resolution were clear with the four violations I just
mentioned. The only condition to go back in 1441 to ask inspectors if he
did break the resolution would have been if it had concerned WMD. There
was no reason to go back for ANY of these four otehr reasons. But yes,
he didn't even spoke about the anthrax until one day before the
ultimatum. He played with fire even with WMD, and Blix was always clear
about that. Yeah right, one day before the ultimatum of the invasion
after months of concealment about it, he decides to tell the world that
he has disposed of the anthrtax and other WMD by himself without asking
the UN or anyone to supervise it all the while he was under UN
sanctions. Jeez, sure. And my grandmother flies jet.
If only he had collaborated and provided the info about this when
asked... who knows. Don't worry. They will find everything that happened
with the missing stuff. Even if it is in Syria.
So do you really support - consequences for illegal behavior - or was
that just something you think should apply to other people - and not
to Americans? Death penalty for PResident Bush?
Only in your terrorists sympathizers propaganda dreams.
You have no clue first of all about International law versus the death
penalty. You are a total joke. Death penalty hahahahaha, show me in
links of the UN - http://www.un.org - where you see that.
Poor ***** loser who says anything out of the blue. If you have no
clue, why don't you shut up.
Yeah - it's about American reverence for obeying the law, that's
right.
Saddam broke the UN resolution and was invaded period.
Anyone who says otherwise can kiss my *****.
That's why we invaded.
Only in your terrorists sympathizer's dreams.
J.
J.
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| User: "no ..." |
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05 Jul 2003 11:41:55 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... It WAS illegal ...
So why did you hasten to slaughter babies
rather than seek legal redress?
Bloodthirsty, aren't you?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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06 Jul 2003 03:18:26 PM |
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no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... It WAS illegal ...
So why did you hasten to slaughter babies
rather than seek legal redress?
Bloodthirsty, aren't you?
Only in your terrorists supporter's dreams.
J.
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| User: "no ..." |
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12 Jul 2003 03:40:11 PM |
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Bloodthirsty Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
drooled the blood of babies from Iraq onto its keyboard,
which resulted in the following erroneous message:
... terrorists supporter's dreams...
J.
What are these things you describe?
How would you know of them, or of any having them?
Do you really want to display your having mistaken
those who act against killing for those driven to cause
indiscriminate murders of helpless innocents? Have you
no functional definition of the terms you attempt to use?
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... It WAS illegal ...
So why did you hasten to slaughter babies
rather than seek legal redress?
Bloodthirsty, aren't you?
Bloodthirsty Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
I don't even know ...
Your ignorance is costing you.
... a deluded anti-US ...*****
And being debunked for the sorry ***** ...
J.
You'd have to be, to be a Bush crime organization supporter.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." |
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05 Jul 2003 09:03:13 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:00:43 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
Help me with the physics.
Do a few parts from a centrifuge cause a nuclear explosion?
If they are underground in a barrel?
Jeez you are totally null if you have no clue to that extent.
It merely enrich uranium.
No it doesn't.
A few parts - do nothing.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
It isn't actually a fact. It is something a scientist said. Those
words of the scientist - got him a home in the USA. It is entirely
possible that he buried the blueprints years ago anticipating that he
might use them to assure a future job, or to sell them for many
millions of dollars to some other nation.
No, you don't get it, like the other null ("ya"). It WAS illegal to have
them under the UN sanctions, period.
So what? Israel breaks fifty UN regulations every morning before
breakfast.
The US breaks UN regulations all the time. Such as in its invasiod of
Iraq.
They were hidden becasue they were illegal, That is why they were
actively sought by the UN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
Quote:
Or the guy hid them - to sell them later.
Such as he just did - selling them to the US for a life in the USA.
You're naive.
-----------------------------
"There's no way that that would have been discovered by normal
international inspections. I couldn't have done it. My successors
couldn't have done it."
Kay said he had mixed emotions when he saw the centrifuge components:
"It was a realization that I hadn't gotten all the parts [of Iraq's
nuclear program]. So there was a moment of regret, but there was also an
exhilaration that now maybe we have a chance to take this to the very
bottom."
-----------------------------
But assuming that in 1991 Saddam's son told him - bury these - we
might need them later - it proves that Iraq had not yet decided to
resume its nuclear programme.
Nuclear armament program. He needs only uranium to fire a nuclear
reactor. And the uranium must be provided through controled means. These
are designed to produce enriched uranium. Of no use in a regular
reactor. Only surgenerators use enriched uranium... or else, nukes.
And that when President Bush told us that they were developing nukes -
he wasn't telling us the truth. Because the FIRST thing they would do
were they to develop the things would be to dig up blueprints.
He was telling the truth. Blue prints would have shown what I just told
you.
As to legality - if you think those who transgress should be punished,
isn't President Bush guilty of a capital offense in launching an
unprovoked illegal war based on lies?
Nah, Saddam broke the conditions of the cease fire 1. by refusing to
give back the national archives of Kuwait, 2. by refusing to give any
detail about the priosonner of the war he waged agaisnt them, 3. by
threatening to annex them and also broke condition 32 of 687e, by giving
$25000 for each terrorist who murdered people.
International criminal law DOES
provide for the death penalty for such criminal behavior.
What are you talking about? Dreaming again?
A poll of
experts on international law - would likely find our attack - illegal.
Nah,. only buillshit assholes would agree with the reneghades, the
breaking of the resolution were clear with the four violations I just
mentioned. The only condition to go back in 1441 to ask inspectors if he
did break the resolution would have been if it had concerned WMD. There
was no reason to go back for ANY of these four otehr reasons. But yes,
he didn't even spoke about the anthrax until one day before the
ultimatum. He played with fire even with WMD, and Blix was always clear
about that. Yeah right, one day before the ultimatum of the invasion
after months of concealment about it, he decides to tell the world that
he has disposed of the anthrtax and other WMD by himself without asking
the UN or anyone to supervise it all the while he was under UN
sanctions. Jeez, sure. And my grandmother flies jet.
If only he had collaborated and provided the info about this when
asked... who knows. Don't worry. They will find everything that happened
with the missing stuff. Even if it is in Syria.
So do you really support - consequences for illegal behavior - or was
that just something you think should apply to other people - and not
to Americans? Death penalty for PResident Bush?
Only in your terrorists sympathizers propaganda dreams.
You have no clue first of all about International law versus the death
penalty. You are a total joke. Death penalty hahahahaha, show me in
links of the UN - http://www.un.org - where you see that.
Poor ***** loser who says anything out of the blue. If you have no
clue, why don't you shut up.
Yeah - it's about American reverence for obeying the law, that's
right.
Saddam broke the UN resolution and was invaded period.
Anyone who says otherwise can kiss my *****.
That's why we invaded.
Only in your terrorists sympathizer's dreams.
J.
J.
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05 Jul 2003 10:16:00 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:00:43 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
Help me with the physics.
Do a few parts from a centrifuge cause a nuclear explosion?
If they are underground in a barrel?
Jeez you are totally null if you have no clue to that extent.
It merely enrich uranium.
No it doesn't.
A few parts - do nothing.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
It isn't actually a fact. It is something a scientist said. Those
words of the scientist - got him a home in the USA. It is entirely
possible that he buried the blueprints years ago anticipating that he
might use them to assure a future job, or to sell them for many
millions of dollars to some other nation.
No, you don't get it, like the other null ("ya"). It WAS illegal to have
them under the UN sanctions, period.
So what? Israel breaks fifty UN regulations every morning before
breakfast.
The US breaks UN regulations all the time. Such as in its invasiod of
Iraq.
They were hidden becasue they were illegal, That is why they were
actively sought by the UN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
Quote:
Or the guy hid them - to sell them later.
Such as he just did - selling them to the US for a life in the USA.
You're naive.
Hahaha yeah right, he hid them to sell them later when his country was
under sanction of the UN for not disclosing them at a cost of how many
billions to him a year? How much profit he envision making on it?
Me naive? LOLOLOL You, are, for believing all your terrorists
sympathizers propaganda link. they dump their guilt on us, just like
binny. You should stop being naive.
Hahaha sell them...
J.
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06 Jul 2003 03:17:56 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:16:00 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:00:43 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
Help me with the physics.
Do a few parts from a centrifuge cause a nuclear explosion?
If they are underground in a barrel?
Jeez you are totally null if you have no clue to that extent.
It merely enrich uranium.
No it doesn't.
A few parts - do nothing.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
It isn't actually a fact. It is something a scientist said. Those
words of the scientist - got him a home in the USA. It is entirely
possible that he buried the blueprints years ago anticipating that he
might use them to assure a future job, or to sell them for many
millions of dollars to some other nation.
No, you don't get it, like the other null ("ya"). It WAS illegal to have
them under the UN sanctions, period.
So what? Israel breaks fifty UN regulations every morning before
breakfast.
The US breaks UN regulations all the time. Such as in its invasiod of
Iraq.
They were hidden becasue they were illegal, That is why they were
actively sought by the UN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
Quote:
Or the guy hid them - to sell them later.
Such as he just did - selling them to the US for a life in the USA.
You're naive.
Hahaha yeah right, he hid them to sell them later when his country was
under sanction of the UN for not disclosing them at a cost of how many
billions to him a year? How much profit he envision making on it?
hahahahaha
My *****.
J.
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| User: "scroff" |
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| Title: Re: Trust Is Important |
05 Jul 2003 09:00:27 PM |
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Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:00:43 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
Help me with the physics.
Do a few parts from a centrifuge cause a nuclear explosion?
If they are underground in a barrel?
Jeez you are totally null if you have no clue to that extent.
It merely enrich uranium.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
It isn't actually a fact. It is something a scientist said. Those
words of the scientist - got him a home in the USA. It is entirely
possible that he buried the blueprints years ago anticipating that he
might use them to assure a future job, or to sell them for many
millions of dollars to some other nation.
No, you don't get it, like the other null ("ya"). It WAS illegal to have
them under the UN sanctions, period.
They were hidden becasue they were illegal, That is why they were
actively sought by the UN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
Quote:
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"There's no way that that would have been discovered by normal
international inspections. I couldn't have done it. My successors
couldn't have done it."
Kay said he had mixed emotions when he saw the centrifuge components:
"It was a realization that I hadn't gotten all the parts [of Iraq's
nuclear program]. So there was a moment of regret, but there was also an
exhilaration that now maybe we have a chance to take this to the very
bottom."
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But assuming that in 1991 Saddam's son told him - bury these - we
might need them later - it proves that Iraq had not yet decided to
resume its nuclear programme.
Nuclear armament program. He needs only uranium to fire a nuclear
reactor. And the uranium must be provided through controled means. These
are designed to produce enriched uranium. Of no use in a regular
reactor. Only surgenerators use enriched uranium... or else, nukes.
And that when President Bush told us that they were developing nukes -
he wasn't telling us the truth. Because the FIRST thing they would do
were they to develop the things would be to dig up blueprints.
He was telling the truth. Blue prints would have shown what I just told
you.
As to legality - if you think those who transgress should be punished,
isn't President Bush guilty of a capital offense in launching an
unprovoked illegal war based on lies?
Nah, Saddam broke the conditions of the cease fire 1. by refusing to
give back the national archives of Kuwait, 2. by refusing to give any
detail about the priosonner of the war he waged agaisnt them, 3. by
threatening to annex them and also broke condition 32 of 687e, by giving
$25000 for each terrorist who murdered people.
International criminal law DOES
provide for the death penalty for such criminal behavior.
What are you talking about? Dreaming again?
A poll of
experts on international law - would likely find our attack - illegal.
Nah,. only buillshit assholes would agree with the reneghades, the
breaking of the resolution were clear with the four violations I just
mentioned. The only condition to go back in 1441 to ask inspectors if he
did break the resolution would have been if it had concerned WMD. There
was no reason to go back for ANY of these four otehr reasons. But yes,
he didn't even spoke about the anthrax until one day before the
ultimatum. He played with fire even with WMD, and Blix was always clear
about that. Yeah right, one day before the ultimatum of the invasion
after months of concealment about it, he decides to tell the world that
he has disposed of the anthrtax and other WMD by himself without asking
the UN or anyone to supervise it all the while he was under UN
sanctions. Jeez, sure. And my grandmother flies jet.
If only he had collaborated and provided the info about this when
asked... who knows. Don't worry. They will find everything that happened
with the missing stuff. Even if it is in Syria.
So do you really support - consequences for illegal behavior - or was
that just something you think should apply to other people - and not
to Americans? Death penalty for PResident Bush?
Only in your terrorists sympathizers propaganda dreams.
You have no clue first of all about International law versus the death
penalty. You are a total joke. Death penalty hahahahaha, show me in
links of the UN - http://www.un.org - where you see that.
Poor ***** loser who says anything out of the blue. If you have no
clue, why don't you shut up.
Yeah - it's about American reverence for obeying the law, that's
right.
Saddam broke the UN resolution and was invaded period.
Anyone who says otherwise can kiss my *****.
That's why we invaded.
Only in your terrorists sympathizer's dreams.
J.
J.
Hmm, so we attacked Iraq because he violated UN resolutions eh? So
when are we going to attack Israel?
You can spout off all you want you ***** posting loser, but until they
find that Iraq posed an imminent threat to the us you're still just
some ***** spouting off at the mouth and posting links to fake
viruses.
Keep hoping, but show me the weapons. Show me the imminent threat, or
shut the ***** up will you.
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http://www.anywhichway.net
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05 Jul 2003 10:11:31 PM |
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:00:43 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
Help me with the physics.
Do a few parts from a centrifuge cause a nuclear explosion?
If they are underground in a barrel?
Jeez you are totally null if you have no clue to that extent.
It merely enrich uranium.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
It isn't actually a fact. It is something a scientist said. Those
words of the scientist - got him a home in the USA. It is entirely
possible that he buried the blueprints years ago anticipating that he
might use them to assure a future job, or to sell them for many
millions of dollars to some other nation.
No, you don't get it, like the other null ("ya"). It WAS illegal to have
them under the UN sanctions, period.
They were hidden becasue they were illegal, That is why they were
actively sought by the UN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
Quote:
-----------------------------
"There's no way that that would have been discovered by normal
international inspections. I couldn't have done it. My successors
couldn't have done it."
Kay said he had mixed emotions when he saw the centrifuge components:
"It was a realization that I hadn't gotten all the parts [of Iraq's
nuclear program]. So there was a moment of regret, but there was also an
exhilaration that now maybe we have a chance to take this to the very
bottom."
-----------------------------
But assuming that in 1991 Saddam's son told him - bury these - we
might need them later - it proves that Iraq had not yet decided to
resume its nuclear programme.
Nuclear armament program. He needs only uranium to fire a nuclear
reactor. And the uranium must be provided through controled means. These
are designed to produce enriched uranium. Of no use in a regular
reactor. Only surgenerators use enriched uranium... or else, nukes.
And that when President Bush told us that they were developing nukes -
he wasn't telling us the truth. Because the FIRST thing they would do
were they to develop the things would be to dig up blueprints.
He was telling the truth. Blue prints would have shown what I just told
you.
As to legality - if you think those who transgress should be punished,
isn't President Bush guilty of a capital offense in launching an
unprovoked illegal war based on lies?
Nah, Saddam broke the conditions of the cease fire 1. by refusing to
give back the national archives of Kuwait, 2. by refusing to give any
detail about the priosonner of the war he waged agaisnt them, 3. by
threatening to annex them and also broke condition 32 of 687e, by giving
$25000 for each terrorist who murdered people.
International criminal law DOES
provide for the death penalty for such criminal behavior.
What are you talking about? Dreaming again?
A poll of
experts on international law - would likely find our attack - illegal.
Nah,. only buillshit assholes would agree with the reneghades, the
breaking of the resolution were clear with the four violations I just
mentioned. The only condition to go back in 1441 to ask inspectors if he
did break the resolution would have been if it had concerned WMD. There
was no reason to go back for ANY of these four otehr reasons. But yes,
he didn't even spoke about the anthrax until one day before the
ultimatum. He played with fire even with WMD, and Blix was always clear
about that. Yeah right, one day before the ultimatum of the invasion
after months of concealment about it, he decides to tell the world that
he has disposed of the anthrtax and other WMD by himself without asking
the UN or anyone to supervise it all the while he was under UN
sanctions. Jeez, sure. And my grandmother flies jet.
If only he had collaborated and provided the info about this when
asked... who knows. Don't worry. They will find everything that happened
with the missing stuff. Even if it is in Syria.
So do you really support - consequences for illegal behavior - or was
that just something you think should apply to other people - and not
to Americans? Death penalty for PResident Bush?
Only in your terrorists sympathizers propaganda dreams.
You have no clue first of all about International law versus the death
penalty. You are a total joke. Death penalty hahahahaha, show me in
links of the UN - http://www.un.org - where you see that.
Poor ***** loser who says anything out of the blue. If you have no
clue, why don't you shut up.
Yeah - it's about American reverence for obeying the law, that's
right.
Saddam broke the UN resolution and was invaded period.
Anyone who says otherwise can kiss my *****.
That's why we invaded.
Only in your terrorists sympathizer's dreams.
J.
J.
Hmm, so we attacked Iraq because he violated UN resolutions eh? So
when are we going to attack Israel?
Never, loser.
Authorization for force against Iraq was given by the UN with resolution
678, it was halted on conditions with 687e, and Saddam broke the
conditions.
There is no authorization for force against Israel. Jeez you are an
ignoramus.
You can spout off all you want you ***** posting loser, but until they
find that Iraq posed an imminent threat to the us you're still just
some ***** spouting off at the mouth and posting links to fake
viruses.
Only in your terrorists supporter's dreams.
Keep hoping, but show me the weapons. Show me the imminent threat, or
shut the ***** up will you.
Ha but I have shown that he broke the conditions of the ceasefire. The
rest is there too. But it is immaterial. But yes, he was an imminent
threat if only because he said he was and he didn,t disclose even what
happened to the anthrax until one day before the ultimatum, if that is
what happened to it, It is implausible that he disposed of it without
telling anyone when he was under UN sanctions. they had to check. But he
broke the UN resolution in 4 clause outside the WMD anyway so it was
legitimate to oust him.
Get a fucking clue. Read a little.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Res1441.htm
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Res687e.htm
J.
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05 Jul 2003 11:58:13 PM |
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Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:11:31 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Ha but I have shown that he broke the conditions of the ceasefire. The
rest is there too. But it is immaterial. But yes, he was an imminent
threat if only because he said he was and he didn,t disclose even what
happened to the anthrax until one day before the ultimatum, if that is
what happened to it, It is implausible that he disposed of it without
telling anyone when he was under UN sanctions. they had to check. But he
broke the UN resolution in 4 clause outside the WMD anyway so it was
legitimate to oust him.
Get a fucking clue. Read a little.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Res1441.htm
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Res687e.htm
J.
I wouldn't follow any link you post. I've read the resolutions.
Everybody knew and knows Iraq was supposed to be in violation of the
resolutions. They were UN resolutions, and the UN Security Counsel
wasn't satisfied that Iraq had wmd worthy of deadly force. (of course
now we see that the degree to which Iraq was in violation of the
resolutions was insignificant, so now everybody harps on the
liberation of the Iraqi's) Whether you like the countries that make
up the counsel or not, that's irrelevant. The UN is the UN. We invaded
Iraq because he supposedly had wmd against UN resolutions, but we
don't have to abide by it? Yea yea I know... we did, you'll say.
That's a matter of opinion, perhaps, I don't think the three or four
months we 'negotiated' were enough. But if king george waited the
inspectors might have shown what we know now, what the millions of us
on the streets knew then... there are no wmd providing an imminent
threat. Even Powell with his power point presentation didn't convince
them. Why? Because there aren't any. If there were he would have used
them as soon as US troops crossed into Iraq, especially the ordnance
capable of reaching hundreds of miles beyond the legal limit, or those
UAV capable of spraying deadly gas. Or maybe he didn't want to make
trouble? I don't know, you tell me.
Now why don't you read king georges speech from 10/7/03. Thats where
he laid out the Iraqi "threat". Read Powells presentation before the
UN. Read the State of the Union address from 1/28/03, read 3/17/03. Oh
my gawd Iraq is gonna kick our ***** if we don't act now! *****. You
believe it, I don't.
Have a nice day! : )
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06 Jul 2003 03:17:18 PM |
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:11:31 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Ha but I have shown that he broke the conditions of the ceasefire. The
rest is there too. But it is immaterial. But yes, he was an imminent
threat if only because he said he was and he didn,t disclose even what
happened to the anthrax until one day before the ultimatum, if that is
what happened to it, It is implausible that he disposed of it without
telling anyone when he was under UN sanctions. they had to check. But he
broke the UN resolution in 4 clause outside the WMD anyway so it was
legitimate to oust him.
Get a fucking clue. Read a little.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Res1441.htm
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Res687e.htm
J.
I wouldn't follow any link you post. I've read the resolutions.
Read them again.
Loser.
J.
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| Title: Re: Trust Is Important but You Sure Can't Trust Bush |
12 Jul 2003 03:40:08 PM |
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Publicly advertising feeblemindedness at best, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
used a keyboard to scratch his *****, which resulted in the following eruption of nonsense :
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:11:31 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
... broke the conditions ...
Your idol Bush does more of that than he should.
Do you ever bother to question it at all?
Get a fucking clue.
What a shame you can't find your own for yourself.
Then finally someone with some sense notes:
I wouldn't follow any link you post.
I sure agree, and I'd never follow any link posted
by 'Jean Guernon' or its ilk. There are great links
out there, insufficient time to fully appreciate them
all, and it'd merely be a waste of time to invest it in
bothering with the garbage of such polluters.
I've read the resolutions.
So have I.
Anyone trying to pretend that the UN wanted Bush
to invade, terrorize, destroy, and pillage Iraq for his
corrupt war and oil baron crime organization as he
has done is not sufficiently intelligent or honest.
Such as 'Guernon' have no value in or of themselves,
merely that they can acquire for being used as examples
of things which decent reasonable people wouldn't do.
Read them again.
Loser.
J.
I second this suggestion for the Bushit to do some reading.
Ignorance can be costly, and even then it's still no excuse.
Bloodthirsty terrorist-wannabe Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorists sympathizer's dreams...
You obsess on such. Why?
... my post like an infectuous disease.
Strange isn't it.
J.
It's no surprise your posts display the illness
of a diseased mind such as yours.
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| Title: Re: Trust Is Important but You Sure Can't Trust Bush |
12 Jul 2003 07:51:41 PM |
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hahaha it hurts you to be debunked hey... LOLOL
All your terrorists sympathizer's lies don't fly but in your diseased
mind. The police is not the bandits.
Take your pill, loser.
J.
no, ... a écrit :
Publicly advertising feeblemindedness at best, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
used a keyboard to scratch his *****, which resulted in the following eruption of nonsense :
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:11:31 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
... broke the conditions ...
Your idol Bush does more of that than he should.
Do you ever bother to question it at all?
Get a fucking clue.
What a shame you can't find your own for yourself.
Then finally someone with some sense notes:
I wouldn't follow any link you post.
I sure agree, and I'd never follow any link posted
by 'Jean Guernon' or its ilk. There are great links
out there, insufficient time to fully appreciate them
all, and it'd merely be a waste of time to invest it in
bothering with the garbage of such polluters.
I've read the resolutions.
So have I.
Anyone trying to pretend that the UN wanted Bush
to invade, terrorize, destroy, and pillage Iraq for his
corrupt war and oil baron crime organization as he
has done is not sufficiently intelligent or honest.
Such as 'Guernon' have no value in or of themselves,
merely that they can acquire for being used as examples
of things which decent reasonable people wouldn't do.
Read them again.
Loser.
J.
I second this suggestion for the Bushit to do some reading.
Ignorance can be costly, and even then it's still no excuse.
Bloodthirsty terrorist-wannabe Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorists sympathizer's dreams...
You obsess on such. Why?
... my post like an infectuous disease.
Strange isn't it.
J.
It's no surprise your posts display the illness
of a diseased mind such as yours.
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| User: "no ..." |
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13 Jul 2003 02:19:54 PM |
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Sadistic Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
hahaha it hurts ...
You're a sadist if you feel pleasure at the pain you imagine for others, aren't you.
What makes you that way?
...terrorists sympathizer's lies ...
You believe all the lies the terrorist Bush tells you.
...loser.
J.
You sure are.
Publicly advertising feeblemindedness at best, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
used a keyboard to scratch his *****, which resulted in the following eruption of nonsense :
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:11:31 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
... broke the conditions ...
Your idol Bush does more of that than he should.
Do you ever bother to question it at all?
Get a fucking clue.
What a shame you can't find your own for yourself.
Then finally someone with some sense notes:
I wouldn't follow any link you post.
I sure agree, and I'd never follow any link posted
by 'Jean Guernon' or its ilk. There are great links
out there, insufficient time to fully appreciate them
all, and it'd merely be a waste of time to invest it in
bothering with the garbage of such polluters.
I've read the resolutions.
So have I.
Anyone trying to pretend that the UN wanted Bush
to invade, terrorize, destroy, and pillage Iraq for his
corrupt war and oil baron crime organization as he
has done is not sufficiently intelligent or honest.
Such as 'Guernon' have no value in or of themselves,
merely that they can acquire for being used as examples
of things which decent reasonable people wouldn't do.
Read them again.
Loser.
J.
I second this suggestion for the Bushit to do some reading.
Ignorance can be costly, and even then it's still no excuse.
Bloodthirsty terrorist-wannabe Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorists sympathizer's dreams...
You obsess on such. Why?
... my post like an infectuous disease.
Strange isn't it.
J.
It's no surprise your posts display the illness
of a diseased mind such as yours.
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| User: "scroff" |
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05 Jul 2003 06:35:21 PM |
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Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
ROFLMAO!!!!! Do I have a clue about nuclear physics????? Oh yea, I'm a
nuclear physicist. Tell me doctor, (you must want to be called by your
proper title if you have a phd in n.p., explain to me all about it.
I do know one thing... an entire nuclear bomb is no good if it's
buried under a rosebush until somebody digs the fuker up. Nobody dug
this centrifuge up until last month, indicating they weren't using it.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
That may be true, but that wasn't the issue.
J.
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05 Jul 2003 08:05:17 PM |
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
ROFLMAO!!!!! Do I have a clue about nuclear physics????? Oh yea, I'm a
nuclear physicist. Tell me doctor, (you must want to be called by your
proper title if you have a phd in n.p., explain to me all about it.
I do know one thing... an entire nuclear bomb is no good if it's
buried under a rosebush until somebody digs the fuker up. Nobody dug
this centrifuge up until last month, indicating they weren't using it.
Nuclear physicist my *****. Indicating they had concealed it. Period.
Loser.
J.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
That may be true, but that wasn't the issue.
J.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." |
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05 Jul 2003 09:05:03 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:05:17 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
ROFLMAO!!!!! Do I have a clue about nuclear physics????? Oh yea, I'm a
nuclear physicist. Tell me doctor, (you must want to be called by your
proper title if you have a phd in n.p., explain to me all about it.
I do know one thing... an entire nuclear bomb is no good if it's
buried under a rosebush until somebody digs the fuker up. Nobody dug
this centrifuge up until last month, indicating they weren't using it.
Nuclear physicist my *****. Indicating they had concealed it. Period.
If they were working to develop nukes - would the blueprints be
buried?
Or would they be dug up?
It's one thing to invade a nation - to avoid a risk.
It's something else to invade a nation - to dig up a rose bush.
Loser.
J.
It was illegal for Saddam to have them and the fact remains that he
concealed these.
That may be true, but that wasn't the issue.
J.
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06 Jul 2003 12:27:17 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
The invasion was because he broke 4 clauses of the UN resolution ...
Yet the UN didn't want Bush to invade Iraq.
You're very confused, aren't you.
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06 Jul 2003 04:03:49 PM |
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no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
The invasion was because he broke 4 clauses of the UN resolution ...
Yet the UN didn't want Bush to invade Iraq.
You're very confused, aren't you.
The UN did want Bush to invade. The ONLY SC was 687 and 1441. there was
not another resolution making these resolution obsolete.
This is facts. that losers were too ***** to enforce what they ALL
signed is immaterial.
Get a clue.
J.
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12 Jul 2003 03:40:31 PM |
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Clueless bloodthirsty Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
The UN did want Bush to invade.
Why would anyone believe that?
Can't you answer?
... too ***** to ...
So, are you over in Iraq shooting at kiddies so the
Bush organization's ownership gets its payoff?
Still dumping
You seem to be incontinent.
What a shame you can't keep it in your diapers.
... shoots at kiddies...
J.
Not only that, but you starve, dehydrate, and infect
them to death as well, in your malice and criminality.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." |
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06 Jul 2003 12:02:13 AM |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:27:09 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:05:17 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
ROFLMAO!!!!! Do I have a clue about nuclear physics????? Oh yea, I'm a
nuclear physicist. Tell me doctor, (you must want to be called by your
proper title if you have a phd in n.p., explain to me all about it.
I do know one thing... an entire nuclear bomb is no good if it's
buried under a rosebush until somebody digs the fuker up. Nobody dug
this centrifuge up until last month, indicating they weren't using it.
Nuclear physicist my *****. Indicating they had concealed it. Period.
If they were working to develop nukes - would the blueprints be
buried?
Or would they be dug up?
It's one thing to invade a nation - to avoid a risk.
It's something else to invade a nation - to dig up a rose bush.
The invasion was because he broke 4 clauses of the UN resolution,
In violations of UN resolutions induces invasion by the US - why
haven't we invaded Israel - or the countless other nations which
violate them?
the
motivation was because he played with the UN as he pleased and was
dangerous.
But now we know - he wasn't dangerous. He did not have even one WMD.
His military - could do nothing but cower when faced with an army.
Iraq was no more dangerous - than Monaco.
The invasion was to keep the UN relevant. 687e (1441 was
saying that 687e had to be implemented) required that he give back the
national Archives of the Kuwaitis, that he document what he did with
their prisoners of war, and that he stopped threatening them with
annexation or any other threat.
He didn't.
And he becomes one of many nations to not obey the UN - such as the
US.
It also required that he refrained from engaging ANY activity with any
terrorists abroad. He didn't.
There is no good evidence that Iraq supported anti-American
terrorists. The only good evidence he supported terrorists - was that
he gave money to Palestinian families with a family member killed in
the struggle with Israel. Those terrorists - in Palestine - have
carefully avoided attacking US interests.
In addition - we have been in Iraq quite a while - and no documents
have come forward to prove your claim - that Iraq supported terrorists
- other than those seeking to enforce UN resolutions against Israel.
Read the resolution. These were the conditions of the cease fire. Once
he broke even one, the lifting of the cease fire had to be implemented
for the UN to remain meaningful. Otherwise any dictator under SIMILAR
threat by the UN could break resolutions and say, well Iraq did it, why
not me?
I read 1441 - and it required a report to the security council for
determination of action. In the security council - only four of the 15
nations supported invasion.
The fear was the WMD, he played with the UN until the last minute. But
the legal reasons were those I just mentioned, these were also reasons,
but if it had only been those, there would have been a need to go back
to the UN inspectors and have them declare he was in breach, although
they always maintained in every report that he was in breach so that was
in fact academic.
Many people break rules. The US - for instance - breaks rules. The
issue is whether we should go to war as a remedy. There were better
ways to deal with rule violations.
The US is not a big supporter of the UN - and does not care whether
its rules are followed or not. See - Israel, the biggest violater
ever. See - the US itself - a constant violater of UN rules.
It did not go to war over rule violations.
It went to war for reasons stated years ago by many now high up in the
US administration. The conquest of Iraq - was a geopolitical goal
serving purposes - having nothing to do with the safety of the US.
The WMD - was a convenient cover story to get public support for a war
waged - for other reasons.
IMO.
Still the real reasons are the other blatant violations. And even if
solely to keep the UN relevant they were unavoidable.
Acting contrary to the wishes of 11 of the 15 security council members
- damages the UN, and therefore the action clearly was not motivated
by a desire to preserve the UN.
J.
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06 Jul 2003 04:00:45 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:27:09 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." a écrit :
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:05:17 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:26:30 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:12:34 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip the stuff about the centrifuge*
There is no doubt that all those who pretend this is not so are in the
potatoes. It is easy to see who is in the field with the cows, they are
all anti-US or anti Israel losers. So either you look at serious sources
or you are part of the parasites here. Like TW for instance.
Very sophisticated eh? It's over a decade old, how sophisticated can
it be? The fact that it was still buried shows there was no recent
work on it. The world knows Saddam had wmd at one time, that wasn't
the claims being made. The claims being made were that those wmd posed
an imminent threat. This has not panned out.
Bah a centrifuge does its work whether it is 20 years old or not. Do you
have a clue about nuclear physics?
ROFLMAO!!!!! Do I have a clue about nuclear physics????? Oh yea, I'm a
nuclear physicist. Tell me doctor, (you must want to be called by your
proper title if you have a phd in n.p., explain to me all about it.
I do know one thing... an entire nuclear bomb is no good if it's
buried under a rosebush until somebody digs the fuker up. Nobody dug
this centrifuge up until last month, indicating they weren't using it.
Nuclear physicist my *****. Indicating they had concealed it. Period.
If they were working to develop nukes - would the blueprints be
buried?
Or would they be dug up?
It's one thing to invade a nation - to avoid a risk.
It's something else to invade a nation - to dig up a rose bush.
The invasion was because he broke 4 clauses of the UN resolution,
In violations of UN resolutions induces invasion by the US - why
haven't we invaded Israel - or the countless other nations which
violate them?
There is absolutely no such authorization in Israel resolutions. Besides
it is palestinians who break the resolutions, Israelis HAVE the right to
defend themselves., Palies do not have the right to attack Israel.
but as I say, there is no resolution concerning Israel that allows force
to be used in case of nonconformity.
With Iraq there was, ever since 678, and 687e was merely the conditions
of a CONDITIONAL ceasefire.
1441 merely reinforced 687e.
the
motivation was because he played with the UN as he pleased and was
dangerous.
But now we know - he wasn't dangerous. He did not have even one WMD.
His military - could do nothing but cower when faced with an army.
Iraq was no more dangerous - than Monaco.
No, we didn't. With him not disclosing (until the last day before the
ultimatum) nothing about his anthrax, with his known connections with
terrorists who were threatening us, even if only the Hamas (he was
intelligent enough not to openly support AlQaeda which he was doing
covertly), there were a danger of a bio-chem 9-11.
The invasion was to keep the UN relevant. 687e (1441 was
saying that 687e had to be implemented) required that he give back the
national Archives of the Kuwaitis, that he document what he did with
their prisoners of war, and that he stopped threatening them with
annexation or any other threat.
He didn't.
And he becomes one of many nations to not obey the UN - such as the
US.
Unlike others, and even then, if you typical anti-Semite talk about
Israel, it goes both way, there is ALWAYS a condition that the Palies
don't make violence in every single resolution, so if they do, and they
always do, the resolution is broken to react to it means nothing. See,
the right to defend itself is recognized by the UN.
Anyway. Try to get AT LEAST THIS under your skull:
The ONLY nation that has the lifting of a cease fire to deal with for
breaking any part of its UN resolution was Iraq. They couldn't even have
the excuse of not knowing what it meant to have force authorized to make
them comply. It was stopped the first time though with a resolution that
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