Tempest a écrit :
Jean Guernon, Well Known Alt.Prophecies.Nostradamus Newsgroup Loon
wrote:
As usual you are the liar. They say nothing, that is not lying. YOU
don't trust them, that is YOUR problem. One cannot lie if one keeps
secret the reason for getting at hostiles.
Ergo: The liar (you) is always debunked.
If Iraq is so bad, why does the Bush Administration have to repeatedly
Lie to start a war?
1. Powell relies on FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
[snip the rest of the *****]
Bah, we all know about those documents. This doesn't change that the
nuclear program is real. The Nigeria documents are the ONLY faulty
intelligence, and documents made up by whom? Muslim whose goal was to
discredit the US.
2. Bush/Powell's UN "evidence" relies on even MORE supposedly "up to
date" FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
Bah, this was a resdearcher assessment that slip into the Intelligence
sheet. Doesn't make it flase or inaccurate.
3. Bush/Powell tries to use edited audio-tape to LIE about Saddam/Bin
Laden Connection.
Who cares what your propaganda ***** link says, we all heard Binny
support Saddam, adn there were alquaeda in Iraq. These are facts.
4. Bush/Powell LIES again about Saddam's ability to deliver weapons of
mass destruction.
Again, this is *****. The UN was destroying missiles that were in
contravention of the range permitted. That is the truth.
5. Bush/Powell LIE about Iraq's Nuclear capabilities concerning
"aluminum tubes":
Again this is a true fact and it is a proof. Not a spoof. These tubes
were for the nuclear program. The nuclear program is a proven reality:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were shown exclusively to
CNN at CIA headquarters in Virginia.
Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching
uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system he was ordered to
hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb program.
"I have very important things at my disposal that I have been ordered to
have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I don't want this to proliferate,
because of its potential consequences if it falls in the hands of
tyrants, in the hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who
has been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.
Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to hide that type
of equipment.
"I think there may be more than three other copies. And I think it is
quite important to look at this list so they will not fall into the
hands of the wrong people," he said.
(...)
J.
[snip the untrusting ***** article about trust]
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04 Jul 2003 08:59:56 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Tempest a écrit :
Jean Guernon, Well Known Alt.Prophecies.Nostradamus Newsgroup Loon
wrote:
As usual you are the liar. They say nothing, that is not lying. YOU
don't trust them, that is YOUR problem. One cannot lie if one keeps
secret the reason for getting at hostiles.
Ergo: The liar (you) is always debunked.
If Iraq is so bad, why does the Bush Administration have to repeatedly
Lie to start a war?
1. Powell relies on FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
[snip the rest of the *****]
Bah, we all know about those documents. This doesn't change that the
nuclear program is real. The Nigeria documents are the ONLY faulty
intelligence, and documents made up by whom? Muslim whose goal was to
discredit the US.
What nuclear program? Do you have proof that the Bush administration
doesn't have?
The very person you quote below has stated that Saddam never started up
his nuclear program after he was told to bury the centrifuge parts 12
years ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/26/sprj.irq.iaea/index.html
IAEA: Centrifuge parts not evidence of 'smoking gun'
U.N. watchdog: Iraq had no nuclear weapons program after '91
2. Bush/Powell's UN "evidence" relies on even MORE supposedly "up to
date" FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
Bah, this was a resdearcher assessment that slip into the Intelligence
sheet. Doesn't make it flase or inaccurate.
It was used to justify the war even though BushCo knew it was 12 years
old and had no bearing on the current situation.
You're spinning.
3. Bush/Powell tries to use edited audio-tape to LIE about Saddam/Bin
Laden Connection.
Who cares what your propaganda ***** link says, we all heard Binny
support Saddam, adn there were alquaeda in Iraq. These are facts.
What facts? Stop talking out of your *****.
Bin Laden didn't say he supported Saddam, moron. He said that he
supported the Iraqi PEOPLE. He called Saddam an infidel. I'll wait why
you go look up the word and realize that it's not a compliment.
Every single intelligence source in the world has disputed any
connection between bin Laden, al-Qaeda and Saddam. The so-called meeting
between the Iraq government and al-Qaeda has been thoroughly debunked.
Saddam himself that if he were supporting bin Laden he would be proud to
announce it to the world.
4. Bush/Powell LIES again about Saddam's ability to deliver weapons of
mass destruction.
Again, this is *****. The UN was destroying missiles that were in
contravention of the range permitted. That is the truth.
That is *****.
The missiles were in violation when fired WITHOUT a payload. With a
payload, they were well within UN resolutions.
5. Bush/Powell LIE about Iraq's Nuclear capabilities concerning
"aluminum tubes":
Again this is a true fact and it is a proof. Not a spoof. These tubes
were for the nuclear program. The nuclear program is a proven reality:
Your clothes must be on fire after all the spinning you're doing.
They were PARTS to a centrifuge, which requires HUNDREDS of parts to
create ONE centrifuge.
And it takes thousands of centrifuges to create enriched uranium. Not to
mention a working facility, which Iraq didn't have.
Not to mention that the centrifuge parts were BURIED in a rose garden
for 12 years.
Obeidi said that he was told to bury the parts 12 years ago and to wait
for instructions. He never received instructions and forgot about the
buried parts. He also stated that Saddam made no moves to re-start his
nuclear program after Israel bombed the facility.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/26/sprj.irq.iaea/index.html
IAEA: Centrifuge parts not evidence of 'smoking gun'
U.N. watchdog: Iraq had no nuclear weapons program after '91
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were shown exclusively to
CNN at CIA headquarters in Virginia.
Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching
uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system he was ordered to
hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb program.
"I have very important things at my disposal that I have been ordered to
have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I don't want this to proliferate,
because of its potential consequences if it falls in the hands of
tyrants, in the hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who
has been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.
Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to hide that type
of equipment.
"I think there may be more than three other copies. And I think it is
quite important to look at this list so they will not fall into the
hands of the wrong people," he said.
CNN was suckered into centrifuge story
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/june0304.html#062503931pm
I was all set to write up a whole piece about how CNN got suckered into
overplaying this story about the nuclear weapons scientist -- Mahdi
Obeidi -- who had the parts and documents hidden under a rose bush in
his back yard. But sometimes brevity and concision matter most.
Look closely: What was buried were components for a uranium centrifuge
and a sheaf of documents detailing how to construct, or rather
reconstruct, a uranium enrichment program. These were from the pre-1991
program. The CNN story says that regime leaders ordered him to hide them
in expectation of the day when the inspectors would leave and the
nuclear program could be restarted. But the CNN story says the call
never came -- even though inspectors did in fact leave the country in
1998 and were absent for almost four years.
Former weapons inspector David Albright told CNN: "In a sense, the
program was in hibernation. He was the key to the restart of this
centrifuge program, and he never got the order. So in that sense it
doesn't show at all that Iraq had a nuclear program. And Obeidi told me
that he never worked on a nuclear program after 1991."
We knew the Iraqis had a pre-1991 nuclear weapons program. We knew there
were probably parts from it hidden around the country in various stages
of preservation or disrepair. If anything this finding seems to present
some positive evidence that no effort to reconstitute the program was
ever made -- though one would definitely want a lot more evidence to
arrive at any conclusive judgment.
This is an important story, but as far as the bottom line on the big
question of the state of Iraq's WMD programs in early 2003 it really
changes nothing.
Stick to posting in the nostradamus newsgroup and leave the politics to
the big boys.
--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Teddy Roosevelt
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05 Jul 2003 10:34:28 AM |
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Tempest a écrit :
Jean Guernon wrote:
Tempest a écrit :
Jean Guernon, Well Known Alt.Prophecies.Nostradamus Newsgroup Loon
wrote:
As usual you are the liar. They say nothing, that is not lying. YOU
don't trust them, that is YOUR problem. One cannot lie if one keeps
secret the reason for getting at hostiles.
Ergo: The liar (you) is always debunked.
If Iraq is so bad, why does the Bush Administration have to repeatedly
Lie to start a war?
1. Powell relies on FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
[snip the rest of the *****]
Bah, we all know about those documents. This doesn't change that the
nuclear program is real. The Nigeria documents are the ONLY faulty
intelligence, and documents made up by whom? Muslim whose goal was to
discredit the US.
What nuclear program? Do you have proof that the Bush administration
doesn't have?
The very person you quote below has stated that Saddam never started up
his nuclear program after he was told to bury the centrifuge parts 12
years ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/26/sprj.irq.iaea/index.html
IAEA: Centrifuge parts not evidence of 'smoking gun'
U.N. watchdog: Iraq had no nuclear weapons program after '91
Duh! He had no nukes YET.
It was part of the nuclear program according to the very people who
worked on it.
2. Bush/Powell's UN "evidence" relies on even MORE supposedly "up to
date" FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
Bah, this was a resdearcher assessment that slip into the Intelligence
sheet. Doesn't make it flase or inaccurate.
It was used to justify the war even though BushCo knew it was 12 years
old and had no bearing on the current situation.
You're spinning.
Bah, this is not an inaccurate report that was slipped in tons of
up-to-date intelligence data. So what?
Big deal? Nah.
3. Bush/Powell tries to use edited audio-tape to LIE about Saddam/Bin
Laden Connection.
Who cares what your propaganda ***** link says, we all heard Binny
support Saddam, adn there were alquaeda in Iraq. These are facts.
What facts? Stop talking out of your *****.
Bin Laden didn't say he supported Saddam, moron. He said that he
supported the Iraqi PEOPLE. He called Saddam an infidel. I'll wait why
you go look up the word and realize that it's not a compliment.
Every single intelligence source in the world has disputed any
connection between bin Laden, al-Qaeda and Saddam. The so-called meeting
between the Iraq government and al-Qaeda has been thoroughly debunked.
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Saddam himself that if he were supporting bin Laden he would be proud to
announce it to the world.
Yeah, like he is going to tell us he is in kohoot with Binny. Jeez, get
a clue.
4. Bush/Powell LIES again about Saddam's ability to deliver weapons of
mass destruction.
Again, this is *****. The UN was destroying missiles that were in
contravention of the range permitted. That is the truth.
That is *****.
The missiles were in violation when fired WITHOUT a payload. With a
payload, they were well within UN resolutions.
Hahaha no, the payload was considered. What you don't get is that if it
had been a nuclear payload it would have been within the range of the
UN. Not with regular for bio/chem weapons. Nuclear warheads are much
heavier. saddam didn't calculate for regular payload. LOL
Nah, they weren't legit even with a conventional payload.
5. Bush/Powell LIE about Iraq's Nuclear capabilities concerning
"aluminum tubes":
Again this is a true fact and it is a proof. Not a spoof. These tubes
were for the nuclear program. The nuclear program is a proven reality:
Your clothes must be on fire after all the spinning you're doing.
They were PARTS to a centrifuge, which requires HUNDREDS of parts to
create ONE centrifuge.
Still illegal under the UN. Still there just for one purpose. What is
your point?
And it takes thousands of centrifuges to create enriched uranium. Not to
mention a working facility, which Iraq didn't have.
Not to mention that the centrifuge parts were BURIED in a rose garden
for 12 years.
Obeidi said that he was told to bury the parts 12 years ago and to wait
for instructions. He never received instructions and forgot about the
buried parts. He also stated that Saddam made no moves to re-start his
nuclear program after Israel bombed the facility.
I have just shown you what he said here below, how dare you say the
opposite?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/26/sprj.irq.iaea/index.html
IAEA: Centrifuge parts not evidence of 'smoking gun'
U.N. watchdog: Iraq had no nuclear weapons program after '91
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html
The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were shown exclusively to
CNN at CIA headquarters in Virginia.
Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching
uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system he was ordered to
hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb program.
"I have very important things at my disposal that I have been ordered to
have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I don't want this to proliferate,
because of its potential consequences if it falls in the hands of
tyrants, in the hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who
has been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.
Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to hide that type
of equipment.
"I think there may be more than three other copies. And I think it is
quite important to look at this list so they will not fall into the
hands of the wrong people," he said.
CNN was suckered into centrifuge story
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/june0304.html#062503931pm
I was all set to write up a whole piece about how CNN got suckered into
overplaying this story about the nuclear weapons scientist -- Mahdi
Obeidi -- who had the parts and documents hidden under a rose bush in
his back yard. But sometimes brevity and concision matter most.
Look closely: What was buried were components for a uranium centrifuge
and a sheaf of documents detailing how to construct, or rather
reconstruct, a uranium enrichment program. These were from the pre-1991
program. The CNN story says that regime leaders ordered him to hide them
in expectation of the day when the inspectors would leave and the
nuclear program could be restarted. But the CNN story says the call
never came -- even though inspectors did in fact leave the country in
1998 and were absent for almost four years.
So what, Saddam was hiding them illegally by not revealing them. This
changes nothing.
Former weapons inspector David Albright told CNN: "In a sense, the
program was in hibernation. He was the key to the restart of this
centrifuge program, and he never got the order. So in that sense it
doesn't show at all that Iraq had a nuclear program. And Obeidi told me
that he never worked on a nuclear program after 1991."
What it doesn't show? What are you talking about.
It does show it had a program in hibernation. Illegal program to be
restarted.
We knew the Iraqis had a pre-1991 nuclear weapons program. We knew there
were probably parts from it hidden around the country in various stages
of preservation or disrepair. If anything this finding seems to present
some positive evidence that no effort to reconstitute the program was
ever made -- though one would definitely want a lot more evidence to
arrive at any conclusive judgment.
Illegally hidden. Period. Not disclosing it would have been enough to
justify the invasion had he not broken the UN resolution on three
clauses with Kuwait and on one with international terrorists.
This is an important story, but as far as the bottom line on the big
question of the state of Iraq's WMD programs in early 2003 it really
changes nothing.
It changes nothing to the FACT that Saddam had a nuclear program in
hibernation, period.
Stick to posting in the nostradamus newsgroup and leave the politics to
the big boys.
Big boys who have no clue?
Dream on.
J.
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05 Jul 2003 02:15:17 PM |
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Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
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05 Jul 2003 05:09:11 PM |
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
J.
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05 Jul 2003 08:48:21 PM |
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Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
The intelligence community, as king george and co. called them, knew
they were here, knew what they were doing, and even had warnings about
it before king george went on vacation.
king george won't allow a full investigation into it because the *****
preobably knew about it and was going to let it happen, ***** maybe he
even hired 'binny' to do it if he's still on the CIA payroll, to
justify their PNAC *****.
Or just simply explain why alleged al qaeda operatives in iraq mean
more than they do in the US.
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05 Jul 2003 10:04:28 PM |
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
The intelligence community, as king george and co. called them, knew
they were here, knew what they were doing, and even had warnings about
it before king george went on vacation.
king george won't allow a full investigation into it because the *****
preobably knew about it and was going to let it happen, ***** maybe he
even hired 'binny' to do it if he's still on the CIA payroll, to
justify their PNAC *****.
Only in your terrorists sympathizer's dreams.
Or just simply explain why alleged al qaeda operatives in iraq mean
more than they do in the US.
Jeez, so stupid? Simply becasue they weren't welcome in the US loser.
J.
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05 Jul 2003 08:27:55 PM |
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Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
J.
You're trying to tell me that just because bin laden had training
camps (not true. last I heard) in iraq there's a connection. bin laden
had operatives training right here in the US, does that mean there's a
connection? Bin laden was on the CIA payroll, does tyhat mean there's
a connection? It might, and he might still be on the payroll, and
neither you nor I would know it, dimbulb.
Oh yea, btw, explain to me everything you know about nuclear physics,
if you don't mind. (from an earlier post from this ultra american lol)
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05 Jul 2003 11:08:37 PM |
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Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:02:57 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
J.
You're trying to tell me that just because bin laden had training
camps (not true. last I heard) in iraq there's a connection. bin laden
had operatives training right here in the US, does that mean there's a
connection? Bin laden was on the CIA payroll, does tyhat mean there's
hahahaha bin laden on the cia payroll. Dream on loser.
a connection? It might, and he might still be on the payroll, and
neither you nor I would know it, dimbulb.
Bah I don't need to tell you I am a molecular biologist to tell you
things that everyone with a minimum education knows about nmuclear
physics, ignoramus.
J.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
You're a funny dude.
Like I said, keep posting. You liven up the group, keep it
interesting, as in "let's see what that Jean guy wrote now..."
Bin Laden got 6 billion from the CIA, was most likely on their
payroll, met with Reagan, al Qaeda operatives were training right here
in the good old USA, intelligence knew about them, but did nothing,
king george, or someone in his administration, knew about the upcoming
attacks, but did nothing.
Saddam had no wmd, had stopped his programs, and king george lied
through his teeth to further the aims of PNAC, gain the upper hand in
the world oil market, and test out new defense strategies. You bought
the whole boat, and now you're either too stupid or too arrogant to
admit you were duped all along. A centrifuge is to a wmd as a
carburetor is to a chevy. If you're a molekyewler bioligist, you ought
to be able to figure that out.
If you can't than you have, I guess, every right to keep on screeching
here.
As far as your stupid 'joke', it wasn't funny, and I doubt easynews
will think so either. You're a loser. You have a hell of alot of nerve
posting a link to that url. Someone who knew less about their computer
than I do wouldn't have known how to get out of that. Grow the fuk up.
Nice chattin with ya.
Have a nice day! :)
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06 Jul 2003 03:57:40 AM |
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Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 07:45:35 GMT, Tempest
<tempest@hotmail.com> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff wrote:
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
J.
You're trying to tell me that just because bin laden had training
camps (not true. last I heard) in iraq there's a connection.
Al-Qaeda did have training camps in Iraq.
Problem is, they were located in the Northern part of the country where
Saddam had no control over.
The camps were located in Kurdish territory which was protected within
the U.S. no-fly zone.
Thank you, I wasn't sure what the story was there... interesting that
they were in the no-fly zone, eh?
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 07:45:35 GMT, Tempest
<tempest@hotmail.com> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff wrote:
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
J.
You're trying to tell me that just because bin laden had training
camps (not true. last I heard) in iraq there's a connection.
Al-Qaeda did have training camps in Iraq.
Problem is, they were located in the Northern part of the country where
Saddam had no control over.
The camps were located in Kurdish territory which was protected within
the U.S. no-fly zone.
Thank you, I wasn't sure what the story was there... interesting that
they were in the no-fly zone, eh?
Still Iraqi army could go there when it wanted provided they didN't go
by air, and it was under the control of one of Saddam's own radical
groups. And they were also in Baghdad. Quote:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/
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The camp is in the northern Kurdish area of the country, outside the
control of the Iraqi regime, but Iraq has kept track of events there by
infiltrating Ansar al-Islam, a radical Islamic group that controls the
area, Powell said.
Zarqawi also has been sighted in Baghdad, Powell said. He traveled to
Baghdad for medical treatment last May, staying there for two months
"while he recuperated to fight another day," Powell said.
During Zarqawi's stay in Baghdad, nearly two dozen of his associates set
up a base of operations in the capital to move people, money and
supplies throughout the country, said Powell. "They've now been
operating freely in the capital for more than eight months," Powell
said.
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Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:08:21 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip*
The camps were located in Kurdish territory which was protected within
the U.S. no-fly zone.
Thank you, I wasn't sure what the story was there... interesting that
they were in the no-fly zone, eh?
Still Iraqi army could go there when it wanted provided they didN't go
by air, and it was under the control of one of Saddam's own radical
groups. And they were also in Baghdad. Quote:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/
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The camp is in the northern Kurdish area of the country, outside the
control of the Iraqi regime, but Iraq has kept track of events there by
infiltrating Ansar al-Islam, a radical Islamic group that controls the
area, Powell said.
So, it says Iraq had to "infiltrate" Ansar as-Islam to keep track of
events. Doesn't sound like an open reciprocal arrangement to me. Maybe
if some of our operatives had infiltrated al Qaeda 9/11 wouldn't have
happened.
Here's some other links, much safer than the one's you like to post
Jean.
"In his presentation to the United Nations, Powell said that Zarqawi
began recruiting terrorists shortly after he arrived in Baghdad last
May. He said that nearly two dozen extremists joined him and
established a base of operations there and that 116 suspected
terrorists linked to Zarqawi had been arrested in Europe in recent
weeks.
Some terrorism and intelligence experts questioned how the Americans
could have such specific information so quickly. "
http://www.globalpolicy.org/wtc/targets/2003/0210suspect.htm
"We do not understand how the Americans -- through Colin Powell's
words -- were able to arrive at such conclusions about al-Zarqawi's
so-called ties with both Iraq and with the 'Chechen link' operatives
whom we arrested in France last year," the anti-terrorist officials
said."
http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/printpage/0%2C5942%2C5953865%2C00.html
"The president said some al Qaeda leaders had fled Afghanistan to Iraq
and referred to one "very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical
treatment in Baghdad this year." It was a reference to Abu Mussab
Zarqawi, a Jordanian. U.S. intelligence already had concluded that
Zarqawi was not an al Qaeda member but the leader of an unaffiliated
terrorist group who occasionally associated with al Qaeda adherents,
the sources said.
As for Bush's claim that Iraq had trained al Qaeda members in
bomb-making and use of poisons and deadly gases, sources with
knowledge of the classified intelligence estimate said the report's
conclusion was that this had not been satisfactorily confirmed."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3883.htm
"Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network, headed by Abu Mussab
al-Zarqawi, an associate and collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his
al-Qaida lieutenants," Powell said.
Powell did not substantiate his claim that Zarqawi was a collaborator
of bin Laden and his lieutenants. But he said Zarwaqi's network helped
establish a poison and explosives training center in northeastern
Iraq.
That camp, however, is run by Ansar al-Islam, a group violently
opposed to Saddam and operating in a region outside of his control.
Ansar al-Islam seeks the establishment of an Islamic regime in Baghdad
similar to that in Iran."
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/smdetail/synid/77657.html
Have a nice day! : )
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06 Jul 2003 07:40:55 PM |
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:08:21 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
*snip*
The camps were located in Kurdish territory which was protected within
the U.S. no-fly zone.
Thank you, I wasn't sure what the story was there... interesting that
they were in the no-fly zone, eh?
Still Iraqi army could go there when it wanted provided they didN't go
by air, and it was under the control of one of Saddam's own radical
groups. And they were also in Baghdad. Quote:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/
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The camp is in the northern Kurdish area of the country, outside the
control of the Iraqi regime, but Iraq has kept track of events there by
infiltrating Ansar al-Islam, a radical Islamic group that controls the
area, Powell said.
So, it says Iraq had to "infiltrate" Ansar as-Islam to keep track of
events. Doesn't sound like an open reciprocal arrangement to me. Maybe
if some of our operatives had infiltrated al Qaeda 9/11 wouldn't have
happened.
Here's some other links, much safer than the one's you like to post
Jean.
"In his presentation to the United Nations, Powell said that Zarqawi
began recruiting terrorists shortly after he arrived in Baghdad last
May. He said that nearly two dozen extremists joined him and
established a base of operations there and that 116 suspected
terrorists linked to Zarqawi had been arrested in Europe in recent
weeks.
Some terrorism and intelligence experts questioned how the Americans
could have such specific information so quickly. "
http://www.globalpolicy.org/wtc/targets/2003/0210suspect.htm
"We do not understand how the Americans -- through Colin Powell's
words -- were able to arrive at such conclusions about al-Zarqawi's
so-called ties with both Iraq and with the 'Chechen link' operatives
whom we arrested in France last year," the anti-terrorist officials
said."
http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/printpage/0%2C5942%2C5953865%2C00.html
"The president said some al Qaeda leaders had fled Afghanistan to Iraq
and referred to one "very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical
treatment in Baghdad this year." It was a reference to Abu Mussab
Zarqawi, a Jordanian. U.S. intelligence already had concluded that
Zarqawi was not an al Qaeda member but the leader of an unaffiliated
terrorist group who occasionally associated with al Qaeda adherents,
the sources said.
As for Bush's claim that Iraq had trained al Qaeda members in
bomb-making and use of poisons and deadly gases, sources with
knowledge of the classified intelligence estimate said the report's
conclusion was that this had not been satisfactorily confirmed."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3883.htm
"Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network, headed by Abu Mussab
al-Zarqawi, an associate and collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his
al-Qaida lieutenants," Powell said.
Powell did not substantiate his claim that Zarqawi was a collaborator
of bin Laden and his lieutenants. But he said Zarwaqi's network helped
establish a poison and explosives training center in northeastern
Iraq.
That camp, however, is run by Ansar al-Islam, a group violently
opposed to Saddam and operating in a region outside of his control.
Ansar al-Islam seeks the establishment of an Islamic regime in Baghdad
similar to that in Iran."
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/smdetail/synid/77657.html
Have a nice day! : )
So they have no clue about the CIA efficiency. Doesn't say much more.
So what? The Alqaeda was there and Saddam who controlled his borders
even if he didn't control that area directly, still had to get into Iraq
with his knowledge and approval.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-04-29-alqaeda-associate_x.htm
Quote: "U.S. forces near Baghdad have captured a man they describe as a
mid level terrorist operative with links to al-Qaeda, a counter
terrorism official said Tuesday.
The operative, whose name was not provided, works for Abu Musab Zarqawi,
a senior associate of Osama bin Laden, the official said, speaking on
the condition of anonymity.
The capture occurred this week, the official said.
Zarqawi, linked to the death of an American diplomat in Jordan last
year, is one of the Bush administration's links between al-Qaeda and the
regime of Saddam Hussein. He is also among the administration's
most-wanted al-Qaeda figures."
Note that Zarqawi WAS located in Baghdad... but of course he had left
when his op was captured.
Quote: "Zarqawi left Baghdad, but those associates remained, officials
have said. His current whereabouts are unknown."
Saddam and Binny have common enemies, no wonder binny told him to join
the fight against Americans and Saddam let his base enjoy a stay in
Iraq.
Facts speak louder than words. Give it time...
J.
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scroff wrote:
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 07:45:35 GMT, Tempest
<tempest@hotmail.com> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff wrote:
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
If Iran hides them you mean? It certainly would.
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
What fact? That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11? What the
***** are you talking about? I don't get your question. As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing? Dream on.
J.
You're trying to tell me that just because bin laden had training
camps (not true. last I heard) in iraq there's a connection.
Al-Qaeda did have training camps in Iraq.
Problem is, they were located in the Northern part of the country where
Saddam had no control over.
The camps were located in Kurdish territory which was protected within
the U.S. no-fly zone.
Thank you, I wasn't sure what the story was there... interesting that
they were in the no-fly zone, eh?
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fg-intel7feb07,1,2328576.story
Ongoing Iraqi Camp Questioned
Lawmakers press Powell as to why terrorist training ground has not been
destroyed.
<snip>
The administration's handling of the issue has emerged as one of the
more curious recent elements of the war on terrorism. Failing to
intervene appears to be at odds with President Bush's stated policy of
preempting terrorist threats, and the facility is in an area where the
United States already has a considerable presence.
^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^
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U.S. intelligence agents are said to be operating among the Kurdish
population nearby, and U.S. and British warplanes patrol much of
northern Iraq as part of their enforcement of a "no-fly" zone.
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<more>
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Teddy Roosevelt
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06 Jul 2003 03:47:21 PM |
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Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:09:14 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Duh. They hadn't invaded yet. It would have been a breach of Iraqi
sovereignty.
Jeez you are ignoramnuses.
But the invasion itself wasn't? So all the thousands of bombing runs
flown over the years weren't a breach of Iraqi sovereignty? The camps
were in the no-fly zone, meaning by your logic, the flights themselves
were a breach of Iraqi sovereignty. Make up you mind.
Way to contradict yourself.
Hey Jean, got anymore 'cool' links to fuk wit people's computers, ya
loser?
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scroff a écrit :
Sometime around Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:09:14 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Duh. They hadn't invaded yet. It would have been a breach of Iraqi
sovereignty.
Jeez you are ignoramnuses.
But the invasion itself wasn't?
It was but it was authorized by the UN resolutions.
So all the thousands of bombing runs
flown over the years weren't a breach of Iraqi sovereignty?
Yep, also part of UN measures against Saddam abusing his Sunni
population. United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, passed in
April 1991, demanded that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein end the repression
of the Iraqi civilian population. Iraqi military bombing and strafing
attacks against the Shi’ite Muslims in Southern Iraq during the
remainder of 1991 and during 1992 indicated Hussein chose not to comply
with the U.N. resolution.
The camps
were in the no-fly zone, meaning by your logic, the flights themselves
were a breach of Iraqi sovereignty. Make up you mind.
Way to contradict yourself.
Read the facts for yourself:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/southern_watch.htm
Hey Jean, got anymore 'cool' links to fuk wit people's computers, ya
loser?
Hahaha I am happy it freaked you out. Anyone with a brain knows it
doesn't ***** a computer. But little terror mongers are way to paranoid
to know the difference. I hope it gave you nightmares. Too bad it'S the
only link I have to freak out little paranoid wannabe terrorists like
you. LOL
Have you ever considered to stop bashing the US, or even that it takes
lots of sacrifice to keep the world free?
J.
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no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11?
You're not very sophisticated in your awareness of reality,
but here's a very big hint for you: bin Laden is one of the
many ops of Poppy Bush.
Only in your terrorists supporter dreams loser.
J.
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05 Jul 2003 11:48:42 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorists supporter ...
That's exactly what you are when you kiss Bushy *****.
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11?
You're not very sophisticated in your awareness of reality,
but here's a very big hint for you: bin Laden is one of the
many ops of Poppy Bush.
... As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them
Dubby Bush told the FBI to stop looking at the bin Ladens,
business associates of the Bush family, as one of the very
few things he did in office before going on vacation.
or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing?
One of the things Dubby certainly *didn't* do before going on
vacation was tell anyone that he knew an attack was imminent,
particular not anyone who could've thus defended themselves,
except for his own gang.
Wimp Bush Gang Bangs America.
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06 Jul 2003 02:52:11 PM |
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no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorists supporter ...
That's exactly what you are when you kiss Bushy *****.
Nah, you see, you need to get in your little tiny brain the difference
between the police and the bandits.
Reform school maybe? Prison? Blowing yourself up in your basement while
making a bomb?
Who knows... Whatever it takes for you to get it.
J.
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11?
You're not very sophisticated in your awareness of reality,
but here's a very big hint for you: bin Laden is one of the
many ops of Poppy Bush.
... As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them
Dubby Bush told the FBI to stop looking at the bin Ladens,
business associates of the Bush family, as one of the very
few things he did in office before going on vacation.
or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing?
One of the things Dubby certainly *didn't* do before going on
vacation was tell anyone that he knew an attack was imminent,
particular not anyone who could've thus defended themselves,
except for his own gang.
Wimp Bush Gang Bangs America.
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12 Jul 2003 03:42:21 PM |
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"mkosca" <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:3F0CEB29.D14D564@globetrotter.net...
no, ... a écrit :
Chewing on blown-off Iraqi kiddie body parts,
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
goes on an on about its problems in public:
... little tiny brain ...
So that's why you can't tell that kiddie-killing is wrong.
Kiddie killing is the Hamas, the Islamic Jihad, the Aleqsa brigade, and
Saddam's business. Not the ones who go after them. You have no clue. You
should leave adults speak by themselves and go play quake or something.
I suppose becuase you didn't see the 600,000 killed in Cambodia and
2,000,000 killed in Vietnam you think no children were killed? Lets not talk
about South America plenty of blood on US hands there children included.
First Gulf war 200,000 Iraqi civilians killed Gulf War 2 we're still
counting. Definately in the thousands, children included.
The US has killed more innocent civilians than all the above terrorist
organisations, but don't get to upset about it we're the "good guys".
J.
Well said, "mkosca".
Jean loves to seek the deaths of helpless innocent children,
then try to pretend it would be someone else's bloodthirst.
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no, ... a écrit :
"mkosca" <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:3F0CEB29.D14D564@globetrotter.net...
no, ... a écrit :
Chewing on blown-off Iraqi kiddie body parts,
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
goes on an on about its problems in public:
... little tiny brain ...
So that's why you can't tell that kiddie-killing is wrong.
Kiddie killing is the Hamas, the Islamic Jihad, the Aleqsa brigade, and
Saddam's business. Not the ones who go after them. You have no clue. You
should leave adults speak by themselves and go play quake or something.
I suppose becuase you didn't see the 600,000 killed in Cambodia and
2,000,000 killed in Vietnam you think no children were killed? Lets not talk
about South America plenty of blood on US hands there children included.
First Gulf war 200,000 Iraqi civilians killed Gulf War 2 we're still
counting. Definately in the thousands, children included.
The US has killed more innocent civilians than all the above terrorist
organisations, but don't get to upset about it we're the "good guys".
J.
Well said, "mkosca".
Jean loves to seek the deaths of helpless innocent children,
then try to pretend it would be someone else's bloodthirst.
Only in your terrorists supporter's dreams.
J.
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17 Jul 2003 12:01:29 AM |
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"mkosca" <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:3F0CEB29.D14D564@globetrotter.net...
no, ... a écrit :
Chewing on blown-off Iraqi kiddie body parts,
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
goes on an on about its problems in public:
... little tiny brain ...
So that's why you can't tell that kiddie-killing is wrong.
Kiddie killing is the Hamas, the Islamic Jihad, the Aleqsa brigade, and
Saddam's business. Not the ones who go after them. You have no clue. You
should leave adults speak by themselves and go play quake or something.
I suppose becuase you didn't see the 600,000 killed in Cambodia and
2,000,000 killed in Vietnam you think no children were killed? Lets not talk
about South America plenty of blood on US hands there children included.
First Gulf war 200,000 Iraqi civilians killed Gulf War 2 we're still
counting. Definately in the thousands, children included.
The US has killed more innocent civilians than all the above terrorist
organisations, but don't get to upset about it we're the "good guys".
J.
Well said, "mkosca".
Jean loves to seek the deaths of helpless innocent children,
then try to pretend it would be someone else's bloodthirst.
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorists supporter's dreams.
J.
No one had asked about your dreams.
You merely dream of killings for lying crooks.
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12 Jul 2003 03:42:29 PM |
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Bloodthirsty kiddie killer Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... Civilians are
collateral damage...
So the 9/11 deaths are okay by you, eh?
What a terrorist sympathizer you are, 'Jean'.
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12 Jul 2003 03:42:17 PM |
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Kiddie Killer Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Kiddie killing is ...
You really need to find new interests.
Do you support the Bush crime family because
you admire the Nazis as they do?
Chewing on blown-off Iraqi kiddie body parts,
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
goes on an on about its problems in public:
... little tiny brain ...
So that's why you can't tell that kiddie-killing is wrong.
...the difference
between the police and the bandits...
The police are those who will have to step in to stop
Bush from committing more crimes and war crimes, in
his banditry on behalf of this corrupt ownership.
Reform school maybe? Prison?
Fascists such as 'Jean' like those and concentration
camps, even death-gas camps. Hitler was a hero to
the Bush family, whose fortune he made for them.
Blowing yourself up in your basement while
making a bomb?
Why would anyone imagine that someone who does
not approve of killing would be so involved? Would
that not be a form of dysfunction, of insanity?
Who knows... Whatever it takes for you to get it.
J.
Those in Iraq already 'get' that you're a vicious criminal.
You really don't need to keep advertising it so much.
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorists supporter ...
That's exactly what you are when you kiss Bushy *****.
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... That the ops of Binny trained in secret for 9-11?
You're not very sophisticated in your awareness of reality,
but here's a very big hint for you: bin Laden is one of the
many ops of Poppy Bush.
... As if the FBI
weren't trying to get them
Dubby Bush told the FBI to stop looking at the bin Ladens,
business associates of the Bush family, as one of the very
few things he did in office before going on vacation.
or as if they made the US aware of what they
were doing?
One of the things Dubby certainly *didn't* do before going on
vacation was tell anyone that he knew an attack was imminent,
particular not anyone who could've thus defended themselves,
except for his own gang.
Wimp Bush Gang Bangs America.
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| User: "Tempest" |
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| Title: Re: Trust Is Important |
05 Jul 2003 02:32:42 PM |
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scroff wrote:
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
It's just too easy to paint jean into a corner, isn't it?
--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Teddy Roosevelt
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Trust Is Important |
05 Jul 2003 05:20:21 PM |
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Tempest a écrit :
scroff wrote:
Sometime around Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:34:28 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> scribbled on a rock and threw this into
cyberspace:
Binny supported the Iraqi people who fought against the US. He did
express sympathy for the dictator. He wasn't going to blow his cover. It
is a fact that AlQaeda were in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
Really? So the presence of 'binny', as you so affectionately call him,
in a country demonstrates a terrorist connection.... how do you
explain 'binny's' presence in the US? Or the fact that al Qaeda
members trained on US soil?
It's just too easy to paint jean into a corner, isn't it?
His assemssment makes no sense. Only in your terrorist supporter's
dreams did the US supported 9-11. Binny didn't go to the US. His
operatives did, and certainly acted in a covert way.
If binny is in Iran it is with the Iranian's government knowledge. I
hate to point out that you both suck at making the propaganda point.
There is only one valid point in your rhetorics, one known by all: The
faulty intelligence about uranium supplied from Niger is the ONLY error
in the intelligence, which was corrected. It took a while for them to
question it, and thus consequently see that it was wrong, because they
had had previous report that Niger supplied uranium that turned out to
be true. It was a report provided by the governement of Niger this time
BTW. Do you get it? Niger was a known source of uranium for Saddam. That
is a fact. Just not THIS particular time.
J.
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| User: "no ..." |
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05 Jul 2003 06:09:20 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorist supporter's ...
Are you really claiming to know someone who's a 'terrorist supporter,
and be their representative? Have you contacted the authorities?
dreams did the US supported 9-11.
Your incoherences aside, you're ignorant of Operation Northwood,
and PNAC, and the realities of the powerful getting people killed for
the fun and profit of it. I suggest you start doing some learning.
Binny didn't go to the US. His
operatives did, and certainly acted in a covert way.
So how did they get all the US air defense pilots to sleep in that day,
or taxi through the drivethrough on the way to taking off?
If binny is
Bush's colleagues who get to be fake enemies for fun and profit are
all quite safe and sound, thank your Bushit master. They might as
well all be in Crawford Texas playing a round of golf right now.
faulty intelligence about uranium supplied from Niger is the ONLY error
in the intelligence ...
Why would anyone believe that?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Trust Is Important |
05 Jul 2003 08:03:03 PM |
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no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorist supporter's ...
Are you really claiming to know someone who's a 'terrorist supporter,
and be their representative? Have you contacted the authorities?
dreams did the US supported 9-11.
Your incoherences aside,
***** you no.
Go there: http://www.oppassen.nl/ and freak yourself out into oblivion.
J.
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| User: "no ..." |
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05 Jul 2003 11:44:13 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorist supporter's ...
Are you really claiming to know someone who's a 'terrorist supporter,
and be their representative? Have you contacted the authorities?
dreams did the US supported 9-11.
Your incoherences aside,
***** you no.
Sorry, humans only ...
You're inhuman to slaughter babies on no evidence against them.
...freak ...
J.
You must be, to want to hurt innocents so desperately.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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06 Jul 2003 02:49:25 PM |
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Only in your terrorists supporter's dreams, loser.
J.
no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorist supporter's ...
Are you really claiming to know someone who's a 'terrorist supporter,
and be their representative? Have you contacted the authorities?
dreams did the US supported 9-11.
Your incoherences aside,
***** you no.
Sorry, humans only ...
You're inhuman to slaughter babies on no evidence against them.
...freak ...
J.
You must be, to want to hurt innocents so desperately.
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| User: "no ..." |
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12 Jul 2003 03:42:11 PM |
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Terrorist sympathizer Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Funny ...
You laugh at the murders of the innocent Iraqis because you're sadistic.
Unenviably, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> yet
again refers to something of overwhelming interest to it:
... terrorists supporter's dreams ...
You keep mentioning those, over and over again.
Why do you feel compelled to mention these things,
as if they'd belong to anyone else but you?
You seem to get excitement and pleasure from the
fact that your idol Bush is torturing and killing helpless
innocent people, even women and children, in Iraq, to
steal the oil resources from the surviving people there.
You appear to take delight in the suffering of others.
Have you shown your posts to a qualified doctor or
counsellor at any time?
... loser...
J.
The loser is the one who can't see through a fraud
such as Bush.
no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
no, ... a écrit :
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
... terrorist supporter's ...
Are you really claiming to know someone who's a 'terrorist supporter,
and be their representative? Have you contacted the authorities?
dreams did the US supported 9-11.
Your incoherences aside,
***** you no.
Sorry, humans only ...
You're inhuman to slaughter babies on no evidence against them.
...freak ...
J.
You must be, to want to hurt innocents so desperately.
I suggest you get some helpful advice in real life from
someone who can assess your mental health/stability,
if you keep wanting to see people who don't deserve
to be hurt get harmed.
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