SHEPHDD wrote:
Michael, I am the son of a Holocaust servivor and I can say without any doubt
that the only reason for the Holocaust was hateful antisemites like you ! The
same kind of fanatical hatered that causes a person to blow themselves up in a
bus full of innocent men women and children ! True christians follow the
lovely example set by Jesus himself, but people like you no nothing more then
hate ! This is the example set by Satan.
The psychological mechanism involved here is really quite interesting--
until, that is, it becomes *boring*:
I have presented a very detailed argument demonstrating that the doc-
trine of 'vicarious atonement' is one of the two most important anti-
Semitic doctrines of Christianity resulting in the Holocaust; and that
the reason why Jesus was so hated by the Jewish priesthood was because
he taught that the 'resurrection' is a Doctrine of Rebirth. But you
ignore the argument about the 'resurrection', insist on believing in
'vicarious atonement'; and that, on the contrary, *I* am the anti-
Semite.
An analogy:
You find a very beautiful rock in the desert which you insist on
keeping. But I use a Geiger counter to demonstrate to you that the
rock, though beautiful, is intensely radioactive and will kill you
if you hold on to it long enough.
But you *must* have the rock.
Thus, you have to accuse *me* of attempting to KILL you with radio-
activity.
This is what your 'argument' demonstrates.
It is not MY fault that the doctrines of 'vicarious atonement' and
the deification of Jesus resulted in hatred and persecution of the
Jewish people. This is merely the historical fact; while this doc-
trine is also not a logical reason for why the Jewish priesthood
wanted Jesus dead and ignores the Doctrinal conflict which occurred
between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.
Of course, you can't see that this is what you are doing, which is
why it is a psychological mechanism in the first place.
Michael Cecil
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12 Feb 2004 04:32:18 PM |
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Why are there anti-Semites? This thread proves why.
The "innocent" Semites stop at nothing in cutting down the God Jesus
whom a large proportion of the world's population worships.
What is written here causes more antagonism and anti-Semitism among
Christians then a thousand Mel Gibsons could with a bit of movie. At
least he is re-enacting the past and no one holds or should hold
present day Jews guilty for what they did to Jesus in helping him
complete his mission.
I am indebted to Lord High Priest Caiaphas and his Sanhedran for
assisting Jesus go to his death.
At the same time, what the bunch of ignoramii who wrote this thread
and you Mr. Cecil, are doing a good job of giving life to
anti-Semitism. You and they are succeeding beyond your wildest
imagination in promoting exactly what we should all fight.
It is a brotherly advice. I hope anti-Christians will read this and
learn from it.
It is no wonder that anti-Semitism is alive an well, thank to you all
anti-Christians.
Sincerely,
Shan
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<402B7016.9B5023A0@earthlink.net>...
SHEPHDD wrote:
Michael, I am the son of a Holocaust servivor and I can say without any doubt
that the only reason for the Holocaust was hateful antisemites like you ! The
same kind of fanatical hatered that causes a person to blow themselves up in a
bus full of innocent men women and children ! True christians follow the
lovely example set by Jesus himself, but people like you no nothing more then
hate ! This is the example set by Satan.
The psychological mechanism involved here is really quite interesting--
until, that is, it becomes *boring*:
I have presented a very detailed argument demonstrating that the doc-
trine of 'vicarious atonement' is one of the two most important anti-
Semitic doctrines of Christianity resulting in the Holocaust; and that
the reason why Jesus was so hated by the Jewish priesthood was because
he taught that the 'resurrection' is a Doctrine of Rebirth. But you
ignore the argument about the 'resurrection', insist on believing in
'vicarious atonement'; and that, on the contrary, *I* am the anti-
Semite.
An analogy:
You find a very beautiful rock in the desert which you insist on
keeping. But I use a Geiger counter to demonstrate to you that the
rock, though beautiful, is intensely radioactive and will kill you
if you hold on to it long enough.
But you *must* have the rock.
Thus, you have to accuse *me* of attempting to KILL you with radio-
activity.
This is what your 'argument' demonstrates.
It is not MY fault that the doctrines of 'vicarious atonement' and
the deification of Jesus resulted in hatred and persecution of the
Jewish people. This is merely the historical fact; while this doc-
trine is also not a logical reason for why the Jewish priesthood
wanted Jesus dead and ignores the Doctrinal conflict which occurred
between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.
Of course, you can't see that this is what you are doing, which is
why it is a psychological mechanism in the first place.
Michael Cecil
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| User: "Mary Hogan" |
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12 Feb 2004 04:53:21 PM |
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Michael Cecil is one of those....brainless Muslims....
"Shan" <shankarees@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:71bd538c.0402121432.559c12c9@posting.google.com...
Why are there anti-Semites? This thread proves why.
The "innocent" Semites stop at nothing in cutting down the God Jesus
whom a large proportion of the world's population worships.
What is written here causes more antagonism and anti-Semitism among
Christians then a thousand Mel Gibsons could with a bit of movie. At
least he is re-enacting the past and no one holds or should hold
present day Jews guilty for what they did to Jesus in helping him
complete his mission.
I am indebted to Lord High Priest Caiaphas and his Sanhedran for
assisting Jesus go to his death.
At the same time, what the bunch of ignoramii who wrote this thread
and you Mr. Cecil, are doing a good job of giving life to
anti-Semitism. You and they are succeeding beyond your wildest
imagination in promoting exactly what we should all fight.
It is a brotherly advice. I hope anti-Christians will read this and
learn from it.
It is no wonder that anti-Semitism is alive an well, thank to you all
anti-Christians.
Sincerely,
Shan
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<402B7016.9B5023A0@earthlink.net>...
SHEPHDD wrote:
Michael, I am the son of a Holocaust servivor and I can say without
any doubt
that the only reason for the Holocaust was hateful antisemites like
you ! The
same kind of fanatical hatered that causes a person to blow themselves
up in a
bus full of innocent men women and children ! True christians
follow the
lovely example set by Jesus himself, but people like you no nothing
more then
hate ! This is the example set by Satan.
The psychological mechanism involved here is really quite interesting--
until, that is, it becomes *boring*:
I have presented a very detailed argument demonstrating that the doc-
trine of 'vicarious atonement' is one of the two most important anti-
Semitic doctrines of Christianity resulting in the Holocaust; and that
the reason why Jesus was so hated by the Jewish priesthood was because
he taught that the 'resurrection' is a Doctrine of Rebirth. But you
ignore the argument about the 'resurrection', insist on believing in
'vicarious atonement'; and that, on the contrary, *I* am the anti-
Semite.
An analogy:
You find a very beautiful rock in the desert which you insist on
keeping. But I use a Geiger counter to demonstrate to you that the
rock, though beautiful, is intensely radioactive and will kill you
if you hold on to it long enough.
But you *must* have the rock.
Thus, you have to accuse *me* of attempting to KILL you with radio-
activity.
This is what your 'argument' demonstrates.
It is not MY fault that the doctrines of 'vicarious atonement' and
the deification of Jesus resulted in hatred and persecution of the
Jewish people. This is merely the historical fact; while this doc-
trine is also not a logical reason for why the Jewish priesthood
wanted Jesus dead and ignores the Doctrinal conflict which occurred
between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.
Of course, you can't see that this is what you are doing, which is
why it is a psychological mechanism in the first place.
Michael Cecil
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| User: "Shan" |
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13 Feb 2004 07:32:46 AM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message news:<402c03cd$1_2@corp.newsgroups.com>...
Michael Cecil is one of those....brainless Muslims....
Thank you Mary. I didn't know that this moron was also mentally
disturbed -- a Muslim.
Muslims are thieves like their Mohammad who stole everything he wrote
in his stupid Quran from the Bible and learned everything there is to
know about religion from the Monk of the Lake (Rahib Al-Buhaiyra), a
heretic monk of the 7th century.
They continue to live in the 7th century while we are in the 21st
century.
Mohammad teaches them great teachings like "how to wipe their asses."
I wasted my time on the idiot Cecil. His name must have caused his
mental illness since Michael comes from Canaanite and means "He who is
like El (god)" -- meh (he who is) ka (like) El (major Canaanite god).
He should change it to Baalzebel or Baalzebub which in Canaanite means
"Lord of of Sh**t" or "Lord of Flies."
Shan
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| User: "Michael Cecil 28SW2" |
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12 Feb 2004 05:43:50 PM |
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Shan wrote:
Why are there anti-Semites? This thread proves why.
I certainly hope so--specifically, anti-Semitism originates with the
beliefs that Jesus is 'God' and that he died as a 'vicarious atone-
ment' for the sins of man.
The "innocent" Semites stop at nothing in cutting down the God Jesus
Those who are most contemptuous of Jesus are those who have perverted
his Teaching into pagan idolatry. Thus, the typical Christian hates
Jesus much more intensely than the typical Jew. And this hatred is
most clearly demonstrated by the worship of Jesus as 'God' and the
perversion of the Teaching of Jesus about the 'resurrection'.
whom a large proportion of the world's population worships.
Sure.
And Jesus, of course, said "The way to Truth is wide and almost
everyone and his brother and sister take that way; but the way to
falsehood is very narrow and difficult to find. So take the wide
road that leads to life rather than the narrow road which leads to
destruction." (Quotation taken from "The Nazi Gospel of Jesus.")
What is written here causes more antagonism and anti-Semitism among
Christians then a thousand Mel Gibsons could with a bit of movie. At
least he is re-enacting the past
He is not re-enacting the past. What he is presenting is a Christian
fantasy of the conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood--a
conflict which very *conveniently* fails to mention that Jesus had to
die because he taught a contradiction of the same Pharisaic inter-
pretation of the 'resurrection' presently taught by the Christian the-
ologians.
and no one holds or should hold
present day Jews guilty for what they did to Jesus in helping him
complete his mission.
You are living in a fantasyland created by the Christian theologians.
His first mission was to tell the Truth about the 'resurrection'. And
it has been the goal of the blood-thirsty Christian theologians ever
since to pervert that Teaching as much as possible.
And they have succeeded.
NOWHERE in the media is it allowed even to be mentioned that Jesus
taught a Doctrine of Rebirth (i.e., 'resurrection')
I am indebted to Lord High Priest Caiaphas and his Sanhedran for
assisting Jesus go to his death.
Sure. Anyone who murders someone telling the Truth is someone
you can appreciate. You are also indebted to those who slaughtered
the Albigensians so as to prevent you from troubling your pretty
little head with issues of the Truth.
And, by the way, if you had been alive at the time you would easily
have stepped in for Caiaphas should he have hesitated. After all,
unless Jesus DIES, you won't get your sorry ***** into heaven.
At the same time, what the bunch of ignoramii who wrote this thread
and you Mr. Cecil, are doing a good job of giving life to
anti-Semitism.
Yeah. Right.
But don't worry. These writings of mine are only seen by a few dozens
of people on the Internet.
Your beliefs on the other hand--as 'holy' as they are--literally FILL
the print and the broadcast media, completely drowning out anyone who
disagrees. It used to be that people like you merely exterminated those
who disagreed with them. Now all people like you have to do is become
MEDIA officials; thereby simply censoring and suppressing anything with
which you disagree.
You and they are succeeding beyond your wildest
imagination in promoting exactly what we should all fight.
Similarly, many people go into their doctor's office 'healthy', only to
emerge later with a diagnosis of cancer.
The conclusion, to you, is OBVIOUS:
DOCTORS GIVE PEOPLE CANCER.
And, if EVERY doctor in the world were killed, that would be the END
of cancer.
(Maybe you should read these sentences with your *other* active brain
cell--to see, maybe, if you will be able to understand.)
It is a brotherly advice. I hope anti-Christians will read this and
learn from it.
It would irritate you, no doubt, to be told that Jesus was probably the
*first* anti-Christ. That is, if the pagan doctrines of Christianity
define what the "Christ" is; then it becomes clear that Jesus taught
*precisely* what Christian theology does NOT teach. At least when I am
accused of being an 'anti-Christ', I know that people are at least beg-
inning to understand what I am saying.
It is no wonder that anti-Semitism is alive an well, thank to you all
anti-Christians.
The rule in this world is clear: Thou shalt NOT contradict the doctrines
of Christian theology. (Hell, even the JEWISH religious officials live
in accordance with this rule.) The Gnostics, the Albigensians, the
Bogomiles and other 'heretics' were slaughtered by the tens of thousands
for having the temerity to say that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth.
But, today, your heroes are ensconced in positions of power in the media
where they can *prevent* you from hearing anything which may be
troubling
to your cognitively-impaired and emotionally fragile 'faith'.
And it is all of the blood from the slaughter of those who have chal-
lenged both the 'truth' and the 'authority' of the "***** of Babylon"
Roman church which, today, STILL animates the Christo-fascist censorship
of the Truth about the crucifixion of Jesus and the Doctrine of the
"resurrection".
Michael Cecil
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<402B7016.9B5023A0@earthlink.net>...
SHEPHDD wrote:
Michael, I am the son of a Holocaust servivor and I can say without any doubt
that the only reason for the Holocaust was hateful antisemites like you ! The
same kind of fanatical hatered that causes a person to blow themselves up in a
bus full of innocent men women and children ! True christians follow the
lovely example set by Jesus himself, but people like you no nothing more then
hate ! This is the example set by Satan.
The psychological mechanism involved here is really quite interesting--
until, that is, it becomes *boring*:
I have presented a very detailed argument demonstrating that the doc-
trine of 'vicarious atonement' is one of the two most important anti-
Semitic doctrines of Christianity resulting in the Holocaust; and that
the reason why Jesus was so hated by the Jewish priesthood was because
he taught that the 'resurrection' is a Doctrine of Rebirth. But you
ignore the argument about the 'resurrection', insist on believing in
'vicarious atonement'; and that, on the contrary, *I* am the anti-
Semite.
An analogy:
You find a very beautiful rock in the desert which you insist on
keeping. But I use a Geiger counter to demonstrate to you that the
rock, though beautiful, is intensely radioactive and will kill you
if you hold on to it long enough.
But you *must* have the rock.
Thus, you have to accuse *me* of attempting to KILL you with radio-
activity.
This is what your 'argument' demonstrates.
It is not MY fault that the doctrines of 'vicarious atonement' and
the deification of Jesus resulted in hatred and persecution of the
Jewish people. This is merely the historical fact; while this doc-
trine is also not a logical reason for why the Jewish priesthood
wanted Jesus dead and ignores the Doctrinal conflict which occurred
between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.
Of course, you can't see that this is what you are doing, which is
why it is a psychological mechanism in the first place.
Michael Cecil
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| Title: Re: WAS YESHUA AN ACCEPTABLE SACRIFICE? |
13 Feb 2004 07:25:00 AM |
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"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<402C0F71.1EC22282@earthlink.net>...
Shan wrote:
Why are there anti-Semites? This thread proves why.
I certainly hope so--specifically, anti-Semitism originates with the
beliefs that Jesus is 'God' and that he died as a 'vicarious atone-
ment' for the sins of man.
RUBBISH.
The "innocent" Semites stop at nothing in cutting down the God Jesus
Those who are most contemptuous of Jesus are those who have perverted
his Teaching into pagan idolatry. Thus, the typical Christian hates
Jesus much more intensely than the typical Jew. And this hatred is
most clearly demonstrated by the worship of Jesus as 'God' and the
perversion of the Teaching of Jesus about the 'resurrection'.
RUBBISH.
whom a large proportion of the world's population worships.
Sure.
And Jesus, of course, said "The way to Truth is wide and almost
everyone and his brother and sister take that way; but the way to
falsehood is very narrow and difficult to find. So take the wide
road that leads to life rather than the narrow road which leads to
destruction." (Quotation taken from "The Nazi Gospel of Jesus.")
???
What is written here causes more antagonism and anti-Semitism among
Christians then a thousand Mel Gibsons could with a bit of movie. At
least he is re-enacting the past
He is not re-enacting the past. What he is presenting is a Christian
fantasy of the conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood--a
conflict which very *conveniently* fails to mention that Jesus had to
die because he taught a contradiction of the same Pharisaic inter-
pretation of the 'resurrection' presently taught by the Christian the-
ologians.
RUBBISH
and no one holds or should hold
present day Jews guilty for what they did to Jesus in helping him
complete his mission.
You are living in a fantasyland created by the Christian theologians.
His first mission was to tell the Truth about the 'resurrection'. And
it has been the goal of the blood-thirsty Christian theologians ever
since to pervert that Teaching as much as possible.
And they have succeeded.
NOWHERE in the media is it allowed even to be mentioned that Jesus
taught a Doctrine of Rebirth (i.e., 'resurrection')
MORE RUBBISH.
Learn to re-cycle.
I am indebted to Lord High Priest Caiaphas and his Sanhedran for
assisting Jesus go to his death.
Sure. Anyone who murders someone telling the Truth is someone
you can appreciate. You are also indebted to those who slaughtered
the Albigensians so as to prevent you from troubling your pretty
little head with issues of the Truth.
And, by the way, if you had been alive at the time you would easily
have stepped in for Caiaphas should he have hesitated. After all,
unless Jesus DIES, you won't get your sorry ***** into heaven.
Go ***** yourself. TOO MUCH RUBBISH.
At the same time, what the bunch of ignoramii who wrote this thread
and you Mr. Cecil, are doing a good job of giving life to
anti-Semitism.
Yeah. Right.
But don't worry. These writings of mine are only seen by a few dozens
of people on the Internet.
Your beliefs on the other hand--as 'holy' as they are--literally FILL
the print and the broadcast media, completely drowning out anyone who
disagrees. It used to be that people like you merely exterminated those
who disagreed with them. Now all people like you have to do is become
MEDIA officials; thereby simply censoring and suppressing anything with
which you disagree.
BULL *****.
You and they are succeeding beyond your wildest
imagination in promoting exactly what we should all fight.
Similarly, many people go into their doctor's office 'healthy', only to
emerge later with a diagnosis of cancer.
The conclusion, to you, is OBVIOUS:
DOCTORS GIVE PEOPLE CANCER.
TWISTED MIND.
And, if EVERY doctor in the world were killed, that would be the END
of cancer.
(Maybe you should read these sentences with your *other* active brain
cell--to see, maybe, if you will be able to understand.)
Only a son of a ***** would reach such conclusion, *****.
It is a brotherly advice. I hope anti-Christians will read this and
learn from it.
It would irritate you, no doubt, to be told that Jesus was probably the
*first* anti-Christ. That is, if the pagan doctrines of Christianity
define what the "Christ" is; then it becomes clear that Jesus taught
*precisely* what Christian theology does NOT teach. At least when I am
accused of being an 'anti-Christ', I know that people are at least beg-
inning to understand what I am saying.
YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN. YOU ARE SO BORING.
It is no wonder that anti-Semitism is alive an well, thank to you all
anti-Christians.
The rule in this world is clear: Thou shalt NOT contradict the doctrines
of Christian theology. (Hell, even the JEWISH religious officials live
in accordance with this rule.) The Gnostics, the Albigensians, the
Bogomiles and other 'heretics' were slaughtered by the tens of thousands
for having the temerity to say that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth.
But, today, your heroes are ensconced in positions of power in the media
where they can *prevent* you from hearing anything which may be
troubling
to your cognitively-impaired and emotionally fragile 'faith'.
You are going to get a very tender fragile MOUTH after I finish FUCKING IT.
And it is all of the blood from the slaughter of those who have chal-
lenged both the 'truth' and the 'authority' of the "***** of Babylon"
Roman church which, today, STILL animates the Christo-fascist censorship
of the Truth about the crucifixion of Jesus and the Doctrine of the
"resurrection".
What a bunch of crap and garbage.
I hope the Garbage Collectors would not mind taking it away.
Prepare to get fucked big time, idiot.
Shan
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