On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Jack Crenshaw <jcrens@earthlink.net> wrote:
Consider this a serious inquiry; no Stephen King stories, no made-up
stories, just the real deal.
I know that many of the stories told here are just that: Stories, told
to entertain and to frighten. We sometimes enjoy being frightened, in
the same sense that we like roller-coaster rides.
What I'm talking about is not fantasy or imagination. I'm talking about
real, honest, encounters.
My question is simple: What the heck do you think is going on? What are
these thingies? Products of runaway imaginations? Spirits of people
who have "crossed over"? Demons? (Angels?) What?
As a scientist (physics), I know that I'm only supposed to believe in
what's real; what I can hold in my hand, can write an equation for, can
perform experiments on. I also know that I can't explain having shared,
entirely unwillingly, three houses with ghosts.
Most of the time, I manage to put the experiences out of my mind, and go
on with my life. Once in awhile, I wonder just how ghosts and Newton's
laws can possibly share the same universe.
I would genuinely like your genuine opinions/thoughts. No flames, please.
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Personally, I believe that...
Ghosts, or "spirit people", are the eternal and immortal
souls of mortally-incarnated beings whether they be dead
or yet living incarnate in the flesh. And while the soul,
like God, lives forever, having no beginning & no ending,
the physical body, in its fallen, carnal, "Adamic" state,
is born, lives and dies in the harsh climate of its sins.
And that's how the sons and daughters of men have had to
be born, live, and die, for some 200,000 tropical years...
This means that most of us, as souls, have lived 100s of
physical lifetimes ever since. If this averages once per
mundane century, that's two thousand lives in this state.
One mortal lifetime is hard enough. Imagine 2000 of them!
At the moment of physical death, most souls move quickly
through the tunnel into the brilliant white & warm light
of the Gods; then into the heavenly and hellish realm of
their spiritual needs--for a time, until they get kicked
out of heaven (e.g., Lucifer) to incarnate in a new body,
in a new time and place generally upon the Earth, to wit.
This interim for soul's purging or cleansing of the soul
is loosely called Purgatory, although something has been
lost in the translation from ancient to modern times. It
is after looking forward and moving into the light, that
this purging of soul occurs, in preparation for its next
incarnation into the physical body. And because no man,
no soul, is an island unto himself, itself, respectively,
the circles of heaven and hell are burgeoning with souls,
and there is much interaction among and between them--as
needs be, with families, friends, enemies, familiars etc.
in heaven and hell, as birds of a feather flock together.
But some souls don't move into the light so quickly, and
become trapped in Limbo. These are generally those souls
who fell victim to unlucky, starcrossed lives and deaths,
as well as those who were the perpetrators of evil deeds.
As victims, discarnate ghosts can't help feeling resentful
and unforgiving against whoever or whatever they attribute
their prior severe life experiences and painful deaths to.
They can blame their problems on God, a person, or a group.
In other words they choose to keep looking back into their
traumatic past, keeping them trapped in a near-earth realm
of the low (i.e. afflicted, impure, maligned) astral plane.
Similarly, the evildoers, the guilty who committed violence
etc. against their victims without cause, they greatly fear,
and desperately seek to postpone, the future judgment which
awaits them, particularly once their victim(s) has forgiven
them for their former evil deeds which caused or contributed
to the aforesaid's suffering and/or eventual or sudden death.
Thus both victim and perpetrator share their mutual places
in the hellish realm of the low astral Limbo: one for fear
of the past, the other for fear of the future, both wholly
in the present. These are usually called "grounded spirits".
More often than not these troubled souls don't even realize
that they are physically dead. The really bad ones, those
who committed unspeakably evil deeds in life, i.e. violent
criminals, surrendered their humanity in life, and so they
typify horrible, inhuman and demonic apparitions in death.
Eventually, inevitably, inescapably, all souls are required
to enter the light -- the whiteness of oblivion, -- leaving
their former physical body and its life to the dust of time.
And so the Judgment comes and the books are opened, and each
soul reviews its former earthly existence in its crystalline
entirety, in crystal-clear remembrance from the first breath
of its physical life...all the way up until the death rattle.
Discarnate souls who have gone through the light, whether
they have incarnated into a new physical body yet or not,
are usually called souls in "visitation" when encountered
by living physical beings. Discarnate souls can visit more
lucidly, actively and easily than most incarnate souls can.
That's where an individual's psychic ability comes in, which
of course varies widely from person to person, and from soul
to soul, as from time to time, and from lifetime to lifetime.
The more sovereign a soul is the better their psychic ability.
It depends on which way a soul is looking as to what it sees.
Look forward and see the future, turn around and see the past,
all in the eternal present. Souls in visitation often visit
the places and times of their past for the fond memories they
cherish of a past lifetime and people they loved and enjoyed.
Others do so out of lingering vestiges of discontent, or both.
Living mortals do this in the dream state, even daydreaming,
but seldom become lucid or super-consciously aware of what's
going on. Sometimes, where the veil is thin, a "vortex" or
door opens between the physically living and the physically
dead. When this happens, it can come as much of a surprise
and be an unsettling experience for the unwitting discarnate
spirit person as it is to the unwitting physically-incarnate
spirit person when they happen to cross paths or "bump" into
each other, as it were.
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7
*Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
*Min's Spiritual I.Q. Test (how smart are you, really):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HCRHGLQM38786.0401967593@anonymous.poster
*Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XJBDEJF138262.9022453704@anonymous.poster
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27 Apr 2006 08:20:29 PM |
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In article
<97277b191e1818bd1ae2bee8f7d09d27@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info>,
"Non scrivetemi" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Jack Crenshaw <jcrens@earthlink.net> wrote:
Consider this a serious inquiry; no Stephen King stories, no made-up
stories, just the real deal.
I know that many of the stories told here are just that: Stories, told
to entertain and to frighten. We sometimes enjoy being frightened, in
the same sense that we like roller-coaster rides.
What I'm talking about is not fantasy or imagination. I'm talking about
real, honest, encounters.
My question is simple: What the heck do you think is going on? What are
these thingies? Products of runaway imaginations? Spirits of people
who have "crossed over"? Demons? (Angels?) What?
As a scientist (physics), I know that I'm only supposed to believe in
what's real; what I can hold in my hand, can write an equation for, can
perform experiments on. I also know that I can't explain having shared,
entirely unwillingly, three houses with ghosts.
Most of the time, I manage to put the experiences out of my mind, and go
on with my life. Once in awhile, I wonder just how ghosts and Newton's
laws can possibly share the same universe.
I would genuinely like your genuine opinions/thoughts. No flames, please.
My own experience suggests that "ghosts" are for the most part
non-volitional energy traces left by heavily charged and/or
repeated actions. They don't interact with people because there's
nobody there to interact with, essentially, only a repeating pattern of
some past action or feeling etc. Superstitious people sometimes project
all sorts of stuff onto them and imagine interactions, but for the most
part it's like encountering a tape recording of something that happened
a while ago (maybe quite a long while). They can have influences on
living people in the sense of making us feel unsettled or threatened,
particularly since the more active ones can draw energy from the living
(hence the famous "cold" spots associated with hauntings), and I always
do a cleansing ritual when I occupy a new home, for example, to
encourage these tape-loops to fade away.
If you keep encountering them, that tells me that you're particularly
sensitive to them (most people are not). Could be that part of your job
in this life is, as a scientist, to turn some serious scientific enquiry
in the direction of this phenomenon, bringing something new to it plus
the scepticism + open-mindedness of the true scientist to the
exploration? Everyone can sense various kinds of paranormal effects and
so on, but most of us close off recognition because it would just be a
distraction from our primary business in life. When we do accept the
input, it may mean that dealing with it using our current strengths is
part of the program.
Good luck, in any case.
C
C
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Personally, I believe that...
Ghosts, or "spirit people", are the eternal and immortal
souls of mortally-incarnated beings whether they be dead
or yet living incarnate in the flesh. And while the soul,
like God, lives forever, having no beginning & no ending,
the physical body, in its fallen, carnal, "Adamic" state,
is born, lives and dies in the harsh climate of its sins.
And that's how the sons and daughters of men have had to
be born, live, and die, for some 200,000 tropical years...
This means that most of us, as souls, have lived 100s of
physical lifetimes ever since. If this averages once per
mundane century, that's two thousand lives in this state.
One mortal lifetime is hard enough. Imagine 2000 of them!
At the moment of physical death, most souls move quickly
through the tunnel into the brilliant white & warm light
of the Gods; then into the heavenly and hellish realm of
their spiritual needs--for a time, until they get kicked
out of heaven (e.g., Lucifer) to incarnate in a new body,
in a new time and place generally upon the Earth, to wit.
This interim for soul's purging or cleansing of the soul
is loosely called Purgatory, although something has been
lost in the translation from ancient to modern times. It
is after looking forward and moving into the light, that
this purging of soul occurs, in preparation for its next
incarnation into the physical body. And because no man,
no soul, is an island unto himself, itself, respectively,
the circles of heaven and hell are burgeoning with souls,
and there is much interaction among and between them--as
needs be, with families, friends, enemies, familiars etc.
in heaven and hell, as birds of a feather flock together.
But some souls don't move into the light so quickly, and
become trapped in Limbo. These are generally those souls
who fell victim to unlucky, starcrossed lives and deaths,
as well as those who were the perpetrators of evil deeds.
As victims, discarnate ghosts can't help feeling resentful
and unforgiving against whoever or whatever they attribute
their prior severe life experiences and painful deaths to.
They can blame their problems on God, a person, or a group.
In other words they choose to keep looking back into their
traumatic past, keeping them trapped in a near-earth realm
of the low (i.e. afflicted, impure, maligned) astral plane.
Similarly, the evildoers, the guilty who committed violence
etc. against their victims without cause, they greatly fear,
and desperately seek to postpone, the future judgment which
awaits them, particularly once their victim(s) has forgiven
them for their former evil deeds which caused or contributed
to the aforesaid's suffering and/or eventual or sudden death.
Thus both victim and perpetrator share their mutual places
in the hellish realm of the low astral Limbo: one for fear
of the past, the other for fear of the future, both wholly
in the present. These are usually called "grounded spirits".
More often than not these troubled souls don't even realize
that they are physically dead. The really bad ones, those
who committed unspeakably evil deeds in life, i.e. violent
criminals, surrendered their humanity in life, and so they
typify horrible, inhuman and demonic apparitions in death.
Eventually, inevitably, inescapably, all souls are required
to enter the light -- the whiteness of oblivion, -- leaving
their former physical body and its life to the dust of time.
And so the Judgment comes and the books are opened, and each
soul reviews its former earthly existence in its crystalline
entirety, in crystal-clear remembrance from the first breath
of its physical life...all the way up until the death rattle.
Discarnate souls who have gone through the light, whether
they have incarnated into a new physical body yet or not,
are usually called souls in "visitation" when encountered
by living physical beings. Discarnate souls can visit more
lucidly, actively and easily than most incarnate souls can.
That's where an individual's psychic ability comes in, which
of course varies widely from person to person, and from soul
to soul, as from time to time, and from lifetime to lifetime.
The more sovereign a soul is the better their psychic ability.
It depends on which way a soul is looking as to what it sees.
Look forward and see the future, turn around and see the past,
all in the eternal present. Souls in visitation often visit
the places and times of their past for the fond memories they
cherish of a past lifetime and people they loved and enjoyed.
Others do so out of lingering vestiges of discontent, or both.
Living mortals do this in the dream state, even daydreaming,
but seldom become lucid or super-consciously aware of what's
going on. Sometimes, where the veil is thin, a "vortex" or
door opens between the physically living and the physically
dead. When this happens, it can come as much of a surprise
and be an unsettling experience for the unwitting discarnate
spirit person as it is to the unwitting physically-incarnate
spirit person when they happen to cross paths or "bump" into
each other, as it were.
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7
*Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
*Min's Spiritual I.Q. Test (how smart are you, really):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HCRHGLQM38786.0401967593@anonymous.post
er
*Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XJBDEJF138262.9022453704@anonymous.post
er
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26 Apr 2006 03:13:25 PM |
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In article <97277b191e1818bd1ae2bee8f7d09d27@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info>
"Non scrivetemi" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Jack Crenshaw <jcrens@earthlink.net> wrote:
Consider this a serious inquiry; no Stephen King stories, no made-up
stories, just the real deal.
I know that many of the stories told here are just that: Stories, told
to entertain and to frighten. We sometimes enjoy being frightened, in
the same sense that we like roller-coaster rides.
What I'm talking about is not fantasy or imagination. I'm talking about
real, honest, encounters.
My question is simple: What the heck do you think is going on? What are
these thingies? Products of runaway imaginations? Spirits of people
who have "crossed over"? Demons? (Angels?) What?
As a scientist (physics), I know that I'm only supposed to believe in
what's real; what I can hold in my hand, can write an equation for, can
perform experiments on. I also know that I can't explain having shared,
entirely unwillingly, three houses with ghosts.
Most of the time, I manage to put the experiences out of my mind, and go
on with my life. Once in awhile, I wonder just how ghosts and Newton's
laws can possibly share the same universe.
I would genuinely like your genuine opinions/thoughts. No flames, please.
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Personally, I believe
The Collected Buffoonery of Daniel Joseph Min - Usenet's most failed prophet.
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Who is Danny Min?
What does he post?
Examples of failed prophecies
What you should do
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Who is Daniel J. Min?
Daniel J. Min is a denizen of Usenet newsgroups. He posts using various variations on his name, including using asterisks or underlines in place of letters. Often he will post as "Nomen Nescio" or Anonymous, and he used to post as GOD>.
The reason for this is to get around peoples "kill files" or "bozo filters"
However, he consistently posts through anonymous "remailers" in order to disguise his true identity
He posts to various newsgroups, including alt.astrology, alt.astronomy, and alt.prophecies.nostradamus. He posts in any inappropriate newsgroup he deems neccessary.
Additionally Danny has been known to directly email people, once again, using his anonymous remailer service.
What does he post?
Danny posts various garbage claims about astrological influences, and birthdata, which he generally makes up as he goes along. Outstanding amongst his posts include claims to know exactly the birthdata of Jesus Christ, Johannes Kepler, Ptolemy, and various other historical characters.
He posts silly prophecies and claims, and even at times posts his own "kill file list" which has become so large that it's unlikely he even *sees* anyone else s posts anymore.
Some Classic examples of Danny's failed prophecies
(Danny's "prophetic" words are italicized)
Danny predicts the "Great Khan of Terror":
On 15 Nov 1999 22:34:03 -0600, GOD wrote in these newsgroups:
The king of terror will come some time around the month of May in 2000.
At this time, the inner planets will all be lined up on one side of the sun with the exception of the Earth which will be directly at the opposite side.
The increased gravitational effects of the sun combined with the added pull from the other planets will have a devastating effect on the earth.
At this time, all major fault lines will rupture. California will experience the big one at this time.
Volcanic activity will increase and it is very likely that the Long Valley Caulderra will explode cataclysmicly. These types of events will be occurring at roughly the same time throughout the entire planet.
To top it off, the suns corona will be nudged away from the earth...towards the grouped inner planets, effectively creating a massive coronal hole (I.E." the "three days of darkness").
When the pull of the alignment comes to pass, the corona will snap back to the earth facing side thereby releasing a CME of massive proportions....aimed directly at planet Earth.
Believe me, there will be terror at this time.
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Danny moves "The Great Kahn of Terror" by yet another 7 months:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:59:25 -0500, No User wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, (BobO fficer) wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:37:04 -0500, to alt.astrology et al I wrote
Enjoy 1999 seventh month. It is Ethanim 2000.
you said it was last September or October,
Yes, the seventh month 1999 in the revised Roman calendar was from sunset September 10th to sunset October 10th but the first month 1999 was in the spring of 1762 BC, sunset Saturday March 24th to sunset April 22nd proleptic Julian. The seventh month Ethanim was therefore 2000, not of 1999 but FROM the first month in the YEAR 1999 of the passover. Hence, the YEAR 1999 seventh month AND seven months. See?
I let you take every day of the year 1999
The LORD granted the centuries and you did not repent. He giveth and He taketh away. You Robert, speak blasphemy of the LORD.
and you were wrong.
I am corrected by scripture--and Nostradamus was likewise.
there was no terror from the skies, no killer asteroid.
And yet again must that universal ruler of infernal hades be raised up as it is written. Beware the star in fortune opposing, in the rule of night from heaven it advances to WINNOW, "Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire" [Mat 3:12]
Daniel
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Daniel Expects half the world's population destroyed in October 2000
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:00:02 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, "Douglas Deaton" wrote:
I am new here and somewhat ignorant.
Doug
That makes two of us, or 6 billion of us if I'm not entirely mistaken.
At October much will be made clear
by ways and means of the elements.
I expect half the population gone,
global equalisation of temperature
and pressure, the time, a new race,
His perpetual age the moment where,
or at the place when, smoke clears.
Enjoy the fireworks!
Daniel Joseph Min- >
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Daniel predicts the US presidential election for 2000
On 12 Nov 2000 23:44:00 -0000, Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
The 42nd President of the United States is the very
last of all the American Presidents to hold office.
He will announce our *National Emergency* shortly,
thus will continue in the office of the President,
having already been inaugurated in due diligence
when he was elected President. Gore is still VP.
&There is no reason to repeal the 22nd amendment,
given that Mr. President William Jefferson Clinton
has been elected twice only, and no more, thus the
amendment does not apply. Neither does a term limit
apply in his case, given that this is indeed a true
state of emergency with bloody violence seen to be
escalating in the State of Florida and elsewhere,
spreading like wildfire as it is in the mid east.
Get to higher ground if you can (look at England!)
Daniel Joseph Min
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So what should you do about him?
Well, first of all, you can be pretty sure based on his success rate that anything he has to say is wrong.
Someone once said, rather well, that "there is too much Min, and not enough Nostradamus" in what he posts.
Complaining won't do much, because he's they type of individual that doesn't feel the need to explain himself.
Asking him to stop only feeds him.
complaining to his anonymous remailer service results in nothing.
About the best thing to be said, is just be aware of what a buffoon he is.
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