"John Roth" <newsgroups@jhrothjr.com> wrote in message news:<10g1r9ip3hlom75@news.supernews.com>...

I believe that Hand has switched to Whole Sign, partially due
to his work on Project Hindsight before he pulled out of that
to work independently on Medieval Astrology.

Yes, he discussed this idea at Kepler while I was attending there and
I tend to agree with him after having tried many house systems to see
if there was any greater validity between them and find none.

"John Roth" <newsgroups@jhrothjr.com> wrote in message news:<10g1r9ip3hlom75@news.supernews.com>...

"spacegoat2013" <spacegoat2013@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Other than that the only thing I'd add is that you might try reading
Deborah Houlding's *The Houses: Temples of the Sky* (online version
at www.skyscript.com) for a quite comprehensive traditional view of
the origin of houses and house systems, Dane Rudhyar's *The
Astrological Houses: The Spectrum Of Individual Experience* for a
modern psychospiritual view of the houses, and perhaps even Bruno
Huber's *The Astrological Houses: A Psychological View Of Man & His
World* for an alternative psychological view and a thorough
description of how Huber approaches dvelopment *within* a house -- the
very question you've asked! None of these views is 'right' or 'wrong',
nor will any of them give you a conclusive answer to your question.
But by the "triangulation" I'm sure you'll have a larger field of
reference in which to pursue your own answers.

Larry

Larry, thank you for your reply, esp. on the background of the houses
(oh, and by the way, I've read the Rudhyar book... he can be
long-winded and abstract to a fault, but TAH is a great book
nonetheless)

I must admit that I have no logical basis for favoring Koch, except
that I always tend to notice the astrologer/authors I think are best
(not necessarily the ones I "like" most) very often use Koch (Robert
Hand, for example... although he calls it the "birthplace house
system").

I believe that Hand has switched to Whole Sign, partially due
to his work on Project Hindsight before he pulled out of that
to work independently on Medieval Astrology.

Yes, he discussed this idea at Kepler while I was

"John Roth" <newsgroups@jhrothjr.com> wrote in message news:<10g1r9ip3hlom75@news.supernews.com>...

"spacegoat2013" <spacegoat2013@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:d6916e6e.0407221401.3808b5b5@posting.google.com...

Other than that the only thing I'd add is that you might try reading
Deborah Houlding's *The Houses: Temples of the Sky* (online version
at www.skyscript.com) for a quite comprehensive traditional view of
the origin of houses and house systems, Dane Rudhyar's *The
Astrological Houses: The Spectrum Of Individual Experience* for a
modern psychospiritual view of the houses, and perhaps even Bruno
Huber's *The Astrological Houses: A Psychological View Of Man & His
World* for an alternative psychological view and a thorough
description of how Huber approaches dvelopment *within* a house -- the
very question you've asked! None of these views is 'right' or 'wrong',
nor will any of them give you a conclusive answer to your question.
But by the "triangulation" I'm sure you'll have a larger field of
reference in which to pursue your own answers.

Larry

Larry, thank you for your reply, esp. on the background of the houses
(oh, and by the way, I've read the Rudhyar book... he can be
long-winded and abstract to a fault, but TAH is a great book
nonetheless)

I must admit that I have no logical basis for favoring Koch, except
that I always tend to notice the astrologer/authors I think are best
(not necessarily the ones I "like" most) very often use Koch (Robert
Hand, for example... although he calls it the "birthplace house
system").

I believe that Hand has switched to Whole Sign, partially due
to his work on Project Hindsight before he pulled out of that
to work independently on Medieval Astrology.

Yes, he discussed this idea at Kepler while I was attending there