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Oh GOD this is happy news! I was searching "Daniel Joseph Min" as
I usually do on my favorite search engines (AltaVista, Yahoo etc.)
to check on my websites' rankings--and lo and behold, I find THIS:
On 14 Nov 2004, (Daniel Joseph Min) wrote:
Hitler was a leader who emulated divine love and we ought to go dig up
his corpse and clone him. He fought for the preservation of human
purity. We need to put dozens of Hitlers in charge of every nation on
the face of the earth so he can move forward and sweep the mud-tainted
scum off the face of this planet.
Everywhere you turn you've got primates, pansies, and other perverted
riff-raff screaming for their rights. Why the hell would we cast
pearls before swine, all they want to do is fornicate and sell each
other crack. Not on my watch, the hell with all of them.
--
We are Many
Mark 5:9
I've had a GREAT Thanksgiving thus far, the best yet in my 47 years.
Even Friday is still Thanksgiving for my larger family get-together,
which is more religious than our smaller, more casual Thursday feasts.
I'm tickled PINK that my now-defeated enemies continue to resort to
posting amateurishly-lame forgeries to the usenet newsgroups. By now,
they KNOW that I've known for years what they've been up to, even back
to their "happy clown" days, whereupon I'd first spotted their weakness
and proceeded to tear them apart limb by limb. Bush 2000, and Bush 2004.
Schwarzenegger 2008. ACLU dead. Roe v. Wade dead. Liberal judges dead.
Ten Commandments ALIVE and well. Homosexual marriage dead. Every liberal
socio-political and religious issue DEAD and BURIED! I call that VICTORY,
and to the victor goes the spoils. I'm GLOATING over the liberals' DEATH.
Separation of Church and State, that's fine. But GOD & State are MARRIED.
You see, for whatever His reason, God the Creator decided to imbue this
incarnation of mine with a profoundly-keen sense of pattern recognition.
Why? I really don't know. It just is. Maybe it's true that God wanted
to make sure that the Anti-Christ liberals would be utterly DESTROYED
over the course of these the greatest & most terrible times the world
has ever known--even as Jesus Christ warned would occur in Matthew 24.
I cannot say. I don't know God's will, save for that testified to by
Jesus Christ through the holy scriptures. I'm not exactly a godly man
myself, nor have I ever been. And yet the Gods hold purpose for us all.
Mine appears to have been to help *DESTROY* the liberals, and to write
those several books and articles I've written. Only our future history
can be the judge of such matters. I do know that liberalism is *TOAST*,
and liberals are sobering up to this FACT in the wake of November 2nd.
For now, I'm satisfied knowing that the liberals are a dying breed of
rabidly-insane inhuman animals destined for the fiery pit of barratry.
For whatever infinitesimal part I've had in expediting their departure
from the Earth, I pray that my heavenly father will forgive me for not
doing vastly MORE than I have done to make it so. But by the looks of
it, together with MILLIONS of other law-abiding God-fearing patriotic
American voters, we have collectively turned the corner against these
terrorist-supporting left-wing liberal Democrats. Thank GOD for that!
With our President's rock-solid MANDATE, we're going in for the KILL.
Thus I thank you liberals for helping us to DESTROY you--even by your
laughably-obvious forgeries with my name in the message. Don't you see?
That HELPS to boost my rankings on the Google-archives as well as for
my websites to which I've uploaded my PDF-formatted freeware books on
the subject. Truly, I do humbly Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
*Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XJBDEJF138262.9022453704@anonymous.poster
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26 Nov 2004 07:34:32 PM |
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:54:17 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
You both are idiots. There is absolutely nothing racist about the US
intervention or foreign policy. You hallucinate.
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express
this
conclusion publicly, but many believe it is the truth. I believe the
catastrophe could have been prevented if any U.S. president during the
past
35 years had had the courage and wisdom to suspend all U.S. aid until
Israel
withdrew from the Arab land seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.
The U.S. lobby for Israel is powerful and intimidating, but any
determined
president-even President Bush this very day-could prevail and win
overwhelming public support for the suspension of aid by laying these
facts
before the American people:
Israel's present government, like its predecessors, is determined to
annex
the West Bank-biblical Judea and Samaria - so Israel will become
Greater
Israel. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who maintain a powerful role in Israeli
politics, believe the Jewish Messiah will not come until Greater
Israel is a
reality. Although a minority in Israel, they are committed,
aggressive, and
influential. Because of deep religious conviction, they are determined
to
prevent Palestinians from gaining statehood on any part of the West
Bank.
In its violent assaults on Palestinians, Israel uses the pretext of
eradicating terrorism, but its forces are actually engaged advancing
the
territorial expansion just cited. Under the guise of anti-terrorism,
Israeli
forces treat Palestinians worse than cattle. With due process nowhere
to be
found, hundreds are detained for long periods and most are tortured.
Some
are assassinated. Homes, orchards, and business places are destroyed.
Entire
cities are kept under intermittent curfew, some confinements lasting
for
weeks. Injured or ill Palestinians needing emergency medical care are
routinely held at checkpoints for an hour or more. Many children are
undernourished. The West Bank and Gaza have become giant concentration
camps. None of this could have occurred without U.S. support. Perhaps
Israeli officials believe life will become so unbearable that most
Palestinians will eventually leave their ancestral homes.
Once beloved worldwide, the U.S. government finds itself reviled in
most
countries because it provides unconditional support of Israeli
violations of
the United Nations Charter, international law, and the precepts of all
major
religious faiths.
How did the American people get into this fix?
Nine-eleven had its principal origin 35 years ago when Israel's U.S.
lobby
began its unbroken success in stifling debate about the proper U.S.
role in
the Arab-Israeli conflict and effectively concealed from public
awareness
the fact that the U.S. government gives massive uncritical support to
Israel.
Thanks to the suffocating influence of Israel's U.S. lobby, open
discussion
of the Arab-Israeli conflict has been non-existent in our government
all
these years. I have firsthand knowledge, because I was a member of the
House
of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee in June 1967 when Israeli
military forces took control of the Golan Heights, a part of Syria, as
well
as the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza. I continued as a member for 16
years
and to this day maintain a close watch on Congress.
For 35 years, not a word has been expressed in that committee or in
either
chamber of Congress that deserves to be called debate on Middle East
policy.
No restrictive or limiting amendments on aid to Israel have been
offered for
20 years, and none of the few offered in previous years received more
than a
handful of votes. On Capitol Hill, criticism of Israel, even in
private
conversation, is all but forbidden, treated as downright unpatriotic,
if not
anti-Semitic. The continued absence of free speech was assured when
those
few who spoke out-Senators Adlai Stevenson and Charles Percy, and
Reps. Paul
"Pete" McCloskey, Cynthia McKinney, Earl Hilliard, and myself-were
defeated
at the polls by candidates heavily financed by pro-Israel forces.
As a result, legislation dealing with the Middle East has been heavily
biased in favor of Israel and against Palestinians and other Arabs
year
after year. Home constituencies, misled by news coverage equally
lop-sided
in Israel's favor, remain largely unaware that Congress behaves as if
it
were a subcommittee of the Israeli parliament.
However, the bias is widely noted beyond America, where most news
media
candidly cover Israel's conquest and generally excoriate America's
complicity and complacency. When President Bush welcomed Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon, sometimes called the Butcher of Beirut, as "my
dear
friend" and "a man of peace" after Israeli forces, using U.S.-donated
arms,
completed their devastation of the West Bank last spring, worldwide
anger
against American policy reached the boiling point.
The fury should surprise no one who reads foreign newspapers or
listens to
BBC. In several televised statements long before 9/11, Osama bin
Laden,
believed by U.S. authorities to have masterminded 9/11, cited U.S.
complicity in Israel's destruction of Palestinian society as a
principal
complaint. Prominent foreigners, in and out of government, express
their
opposition to U.S. policies with unprecedented frequency and severity,
especially since Bush announced his determination to make war against
Iraq.
The lobby's intimidation remains pervasive. It seems to reach every
government center and even houses of worship and revered institutions
of
higher learning. It is highly effective in silencing the many U.S.
Jews who
object to the lobby's tactics and Israel's brutality...
Today, a year after 9/11, President Bush has made no attempt to
redress
grievances, or even to identify them. In fact, he has made the scene
far
worse by supporting Israel's religious war against Palestinians, an
alliance
that has intensified anti-American anger. He seems oblivious to the
fact
that nearly two billion people worldwide regard the plight of
Palestinians
as today's most important foreign-policy challenge. No one in
authority will
admit a calamitous reality that is skillfully shielded from the
American
people but clearly recognized by most of the world: America suffered
9/11
and its aftermath and may soon be at war with Iraq, mainly because
U.S.
policy in the Middle East is made in Israel, not in Washington.
Israel is a scofflaw nation and should be treated as such. Instead of
helping Sharon intensify Palestinian misery, our president should
suspend
all aid until Israel ends its occupation of Arab land Israel seized in
1967.
The suspension would force Sharon's compliance or lead to his removal
from
office, as the Israeli electorate will not tolerate a prime minister
who is
at odds with the White House.
If Bush needs an additional reason for doing the right thing, he can
justify
the suspension as a matter of military necessity, an essential step in
winning international support for his war on terrorism. He can cite a
worthy
precedent. When President Abraham Lincoln issued the proclamation that
freed
only the slaves in states that were then in rebellion, he make the
restriction because of "military necessity."
If Bush suspends U.S. aid, he will liberate all Americans from long
years of
bondage to Israel's misdeeds.
Mr. Paul Findley, who served as a Republican congressman from Illinois
for
22 years, is the author of 'They Dare to Speak Out' and a member of
the
American Educational Trust's Foreign Relations Committee.
Also See: http://www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net/
Citizens for Fair Legislation ALERT: NO NEW AID TO ISRAEL
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/1556560.php
Congressman Paul Findley: Liberating America From Israel
http://www.mediamonitors.net/findley2.html
Pat Buchanan: Why Politicians Prefer Israel over American
Interest?
http://amconmag.com/01_13_03/buchanan7.html
Israeli Minister - 'We've Become Barbarians'
http://rense.com/general33/become.htm
Wales Politician Compares Apartheid Israel to Nazi Germany
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/page.cfm?objectid=12498073
&method=full&siteid=50082
Israel's image of liberal democracy takes a battering
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/04/wisr04.xml&s
Sheet=/news/2003/01/04/ixworld.html
Israel Bans Christian Politician and Party from Election
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1845530.stm
Israel to Expel Christian Politician and non-Jewish Parties from
Knesset
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,866348,00.html
Row over Arabs' election ban
http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/01/wisr01.
xml&sSheet=/news/2003/01/01/ixnewstop.html
How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.
http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/98414_comment.php
American Media Controlled by Israeli Supporters
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Eric+Alterman+MSNBC+Israel&hl=en&lr=&ie=UT
F-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3caaa1d0_1%40news.tm.net.my&rnum=1
The Myth of Barak's Generous Offer
http://fair.org/extra/0207/generous.html
Direct Financial Cost of Israel to US: $1.6 trillion and
growing
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html
MAKING MERCHANDISE OUT OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD: SELLING THE UPCOMING
WAR IN
IRAQ http://www.endtimesnetwork.com/m2_s1.html
Zionism Unbound - Vidal Gored 16 Years Ago
http://www.rense.com/general32/unbound.htm
'It's Time To Get Tough With Israel' - Patriotic US Army Brig
General
http://www.rense.com/general33/tough.htm
Israel's Policy Of 'Covert Aggression'
http://www.rense.com/general31/ze.htm
ISRAEL'S SACRED TERRORISM
http://abbc.com/historia/zionism/rokach.html
The Men From JINSA and CSP
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020902&c=1&s=vest
JINSA Behind Drive To Cover-Up Israeli Spy Scandal
http://rense.com/general18/JINSA.HTM
Christian Coalition Abandonment of Palestinian Christians is
Hypocritical http://www.mediamonitors.net/sherri64.html
Where does world-famous televangelist's money go?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/845747.asp#BODY
Christian Patriarch of Holy Land calls for end of Oppressive
Israeli
occupation http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2604761.stm
Zionism versus the Bible - Peace and Jutice on Earth or the
Extremism of
the 'Christian' Right? http://www.mediamonitors.net/williamson4.html
THE UNHOLY ALLIANCE - Christianity & The NWO
http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm
No Joy in Bethlehem
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,865083,00.html
'Saddest Christmas Ever' in Bethlehem
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pri&dt=021225&cat=news&st=newsmideas
tdc
For Unbiased News, visit:
http://www.commondreams.org
http://www.rense.com/
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
http://www.independent.co.uk/
http://www.thenation.com/
http://www.mediamonitors.net/
http://www.antiwar.com/
http://www.fair.org/
http://www.counterpunch.com/
http://www.indymedia.org/
http://www.progressive.org/
http://www.yellowtimes.org/
http://www.latimes.com/
For Good Analysis and Commentary, visit:
http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/
http://www.robert-fisk.com/
http://www.iacenter.org/
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm
http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/h-col.html
http://www.nader.org/public_interest.html
http://reese.king-online.com/
http://fair.org/media-beat/
http://avnery-news.co.il/english/
Please distribute....
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info http://www.RealNews247.com
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29 Nov 2004 07:23:47 AM |
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Topaz a écrit:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:54:17 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
You both are idiots. There is absolutely nothing racist about the US
intervention or foreign policy. You hallucinate.
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express
this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
Gee there are racist losers on these NGs.
The truth is that if surrounding Arab nation were willing to stop
violence, there would be a way, but they are still aggressing this tiny
state that counts for less than 1% of the Middle East territory, by pure
hatred, which is what MUST change. That the US helps Israel survive by
barely giving it what it gives Egypt which is what should stop BTW
because they use it to spread hatred like putting this NAZI lie
(fraudulent document) "the protocols" that prompted the holocaust, on
prime time, http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Cairo.rm is counterproductive.
And the US rightly support them, as they are the aggressors ever since
they attacked Israel in 67, Israel is only defending itself, and getting
at the pieces of ***** who plot and murder innocent civilians like it not
only their ABSOLUTE right, it i also essential for their survival.
As for the lies about annexation, it is also a total lie since Sharon is
unilaterally getting out of there, the concentration camps are kept like
that on purpose by Arafat who gets money to integrate the Palestinians
but put it in his Swiss account. Now that the little ***** is dead, maybe
there is some hope that they will start the peace process which FIRST
STEP is to get the MUSLIM terrorists killers and destroy their
organization that won't allow the peace process. This is the first step.
Sure the US has the absolute right not to let this area go to hell
despite the anti-semitism of the rest of the world like the buffoons at
the world court that are against a fence without giving any alternative
to stop the murderers or the UN anti racism conference that start with
an anti-Semitic statement. There are lots of pieces of ***** in the
world, and that is another reason the US must stand by Israel.
Binny had three main demands, not to stop aggression at all, but to
sanction it. Let Israel alone face the Muslim aggression as we discussed
here, let Iraq, who was the former aggressor of Kuwait, alone, when all
they got was because of their furthering of the aggression by not
abiding by the UN resolution (yes the world is totally bias, the
intervention was totally legal since there was no other resolution
adopted than the one warranting serious consequences at the first breach
and there were half a dozen breaches besides all those concerning WMDs),
and lastly, get out of Saudi Arabia, which the reason being there was
because of the aggression of Saddam, again the Muslim aggression, and at
the request of the legitimate government of Saudi Arabia, from which
country Binny was put in exile like the renegade that he is. Ti justify
this piece of ***** Bin Laden is a total farce and is used by Muslim
pieces of ***** to further their anti-Semitic agenda, but has absolutely
no foundation.
You can put all your anti-Semitic links up your *****, loser.
J.
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29 Nov 2004 08:13:38 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic. Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
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29 Nov 2004 07:27:12 PM |
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"Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.11.29.14.07.09.94197@unseen.edu...
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic. Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
I've been telling him that for almost a month now!
I've given up, but wish you Good Luck!
Stat.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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04 Dec 2004 03:35:10 PM |
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Rincewind a écrit:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic.
No it is not.
Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
Nah, I wouldn't cvall them decent.
J.
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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04 Dec 2004 06:18:50 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:i4qsd.6193776$6p.984609@news.easynews.com...
Rincewind a écrit:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic.
No it is not.
It is for people who actually know what these things are ;-)
Stat.
Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
Nah, I wouldn't cvall them decent.
J.
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04 Dec 2004 09:27:52 PM |
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MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:i4qsd.6193776$6p.984609@news.easynews.com...
Rincewind a écrit:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic.
No it is not.
It is for people who actually know what these things are ;-)
There are some leninist losers in Israel and other radicals who are
against anything like there are leninists Americans who hate the US, but
no one Jew who respect his culture can be against the existence of
Israel, anti-semites think like that. Now that some losers exist even
ion Israel is not in question, but to be against the existence of Israel
is the characteristic of anti-semites. They hate Jews and don't want
them to have their own country. Logic shows that only anti-semites (like
you, stat) would pretend that there is a difference.
J.
Stat.
Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
Nah, I wouldn't cvall them decent.
J.
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04 Dec 2004 09:56:25 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Yevsd.4117214$yk.623281@news.easynews.com...
MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:i4qsd.6193776$6p.984609@news.easynews.com...
Rincewind a écrit:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic.
No it is not.
It is for people who actually know what these things are ;-)
There are some leninist losers in Israel and other radicals who are against
anything like there are leninists Americans who hate the US, but no one Jew
who respect his culture can be against the existence of Israel,
anti-semites think like that. Now that some losers exist even ion Israel is
not in question, but to be against the existence of Israel is the
characteristic of anti-semites. They hate Jews and don't want them to have
their own country. Logic shows that only anti-semites (like you, stat)
would pretend that there is a difference.
J.
You're an idiot.
Close to 60% of Israelis today oppose their governments violence and
aggressions against Palestinians. See for example poll:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89310,00.html
So those "leninist losers in Israel" and "other radicals" you refer to are in
fact the majority of Israelis.
Same thing is happening in US where most Americans oppose their government's
violence and aggressions against Iraqis.
Israel's records speak for themselves. Every self-respecting organization
(including UN), and individual (including majority of Jews and Israelis)
condemn the outrageous violent crimes against Palestinians. Whatever you may
think or say has ZERO bearing on the truth.
Stat.
Stat.
Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
Nah, I wouldn't cvall them decent.
J.
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06 Dec 2004 07:13:05 AM |
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MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Yevsd.4117214$yk.623281@news.easynews.com...
MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Rincewind a écrit:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic.
No it is not.
It is for people who actually know what these things are ;-)
There are some leninist losers in Israel and other radicals who are against
anything like there are leninists Americans who hate the US, but no one Jew
who respect his culture can be against the existence of Israel,
anti-semites think like that. Now that some losers exist even ion Israel is
not in question, but to be against the existence of Israel is the
characteristic of anti-semites. They hate Jews and don't want them to have
their own country. Logic shows that only anti-semites (like you, stat)
would pretend that there is a difference.
J.
You're an idiot.
Close to 60% of Israelis today oppose their governments violence and
aggressions against Palestinians. See for example poll:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89310,00.html
So those "leninist losers in Israel" and "other radicals" you refer to are in
fact the majority of Israelis.
Same thing is happening in US where most Americans oppose their government's
violence and aggressions against Iraqis.
Israel's records speak for themselves. Every self-respecting organization
(including UN), and individual (including majority of Jews and Israelis)
condemn the outrageous violent crimes against Palestinians. Whatever you may
think or say has ZERO bearing on the truth.
Stat.
*****. Israeli were opposed to air strikes of heavy missiles on
buildings that can't obviously sustain them, the victims there were not
killed by the bomb that targetted the militants, but by the neighboring
building that fell down because they are badly built. Take a poll that
has not resulted from a calculation mistake.
Every self respecting Jews or Israelis including indivviduals support
Israel defending itself against the barbaric Muslim killers. You lie.
Nothing new here, you are an anti-semite.
J.
Stat.
Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
Nah, I wouldn't cvall them decent.
J.
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06 Dec 2004 07:33:35 AM |
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Rincewind a écrit:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something
like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had
refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few
express this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic.
No it is not.
It is for people who actually know what these things are ;-)
There are some leninist losers in Israel and other radicals who are
against anything like there are leninists Americans who hate the US,
but no one Jew who respect his culture can be against the existence
of Israel, anti-semites think like that. Now that some losers exist
even in Israel is not in question, but to be against the existence
of Israel is the characteristic of anti-semites. They hate Jews and
don't want them to have their own country. Logic shows that only
anti-semites (like you, stat) would pretend that there is a difference.
J.
You're an idiot.
Close to 60% of Israelis today oppose their governments violence and
aggressions against Palestinians. See for example poll:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89310,00.html
So those "leninist losers in Israel" and "other radicals" you refer to
are in fact the majority of Israelis.
BTW, this is of course a lie. I am talking about those against the
existence of Israel being anti-semites. Even if a few exceptions exist
within Jews, mostly outside Israel, and these exceptions are the radical
leninists and some religious nuts. All the others are proven anti-semites.
Same thing is happening in US where most Americans oppose their
government's violence and aggressions against Iraqis.
Again *****. Look at the latest poll.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14113
And all the other polls. There is no aggression or violence against the
Iraqis by the US, Stupid *****, there is violence by the terrorists
and the US and the legitimate government is addressing these losers.
All you say is always lies, because you are an anti-semite, and an
anti-US, piece of *****.
J.
Israel's records speak for themselves. Every self-respecting
organization (including UN), and individual (including majority of
Jews and Israelis) condemn the outrageous violent crimes against
Palestinians. Whatever you may think or say has ZERO bearing on the
truth.
Stat.
*****. Israeli were opposed to air strikes of heavy missiles on
buildings that can't obviously sustain them, the victims there were not
killed by the bomb that targetted the militants, but by the neighboring
building that fell down because they are badly built. Take a poll that
has not resulted from a calculation mistake.
Every self respecting Jews or Israelis including indivviduals support
Israel defending itself against the barbaric Muslim killers. You lie.
Nothing new here, you are an anti-semite.
J.
Stat.
Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
Nah, I wouldn't cvall them decent.
J.
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06 Dec 2004 07:03:41 PM |
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LOL
You amuse me Jean.
Well, let me first apologize for calling you an idiot in the other message. I
felt bad about it afterwards. What I really meant to say was that the
_content_ of your message was idiotic.
With that out of the way, I have to say that your reply here is even more
idiotic. Bordering moronic in fact :-) However, I sincerely thank you for the
link to this poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14113)
It is very interesting and revealing.
I think it is perhaps the first time in American history where the population
is indeed aware of what's happening somewhere across the world at the same
time as the rest of the world, and this despite the unprecedented propaganda
campaigns and censorship by the US government in this business. Just goes to
show that controlling Public Opinion is much harder now than previously
thought.
So the poll shows that Majority of Americans think Iraqis will not accept
results of January elections. This is a known fact in Iraq, and the whole
region, and in most of the World. I am pleasantly surprised that the American
public understands this as well.
This in itself shows that an increasing majority of Americans see this
military intervention as futile and serving nobody but the weapons
manufacturing industry, Pentagon and few other corporate friends of the
Whitehouse. After all the lies about Iraq / 9-11 links, and Iraqi WMD were
dispelled, the last straw was Promoting Democracy in Iraq. But even that is
being looked upon as bogus now by Americans.
So perhaps it's time for you to move on to a new chapter as well. Try for
example to beef up a reason why the majority of Americans think these forced
elections are not going to be satisfactory to Iraqis. I already know why, but
am just curious to see how an appologist spins this one.
Thanks,
Stat.
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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MonsieurStat a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Rincewind a écrit:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:23:47 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something
like
this:
Liberating America From Israel
by Paul Findley
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had
refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express
this
More anti-Semitism with lots of anti-Semitic propaganda links.
There is a distinct difference between anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
propaganda. It is possible to be anti-Israeli without being
anti-Semitic.
No it is not.
It is for people who actually know what these things are ;-)
There are some leninist losers in Israel and other radicals who are
against anything like there are leninists Americans who hate the US, but
no one Jew who respect his culture can be against the existence of
Israel, anti-semites think like that. Now that some losers exist even in
Israel is not in question, but to be against the existence of Israel is
the characteristic of anti-semites. They hate Jews and don't want them
to have their own country. Logic shows that only anti-semites (like you,
stat) would pretend that there is a difference.
J.
You're an idiot.
Close to 60% of Israelis today oppose their governments violence and
aggressions against Palestinians. See for example poll:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89310,00.html
So those "leninist losers in Israel" and "other radicals" you refer to
are in fact the majority of Israelis.
BTW, this is of course a lie. I am talking about those against the
existence of Israel being anti-semites. Even if a few exceptions exist
within Jews, mostly outside Israel, and these exceptions are the radical
leninists and some religious nuts. All the others are proven anti-semites.
Same thing is happening in US where most Americans oppose their
government's violence and aggressions against Iraqis.
Again *****. Look at the latest poll.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14113
And all the other polls. There is no aggression or violence against the
Iraqis by the US, Stupid *****, there is violence by the terrorists and
the US and the legitimate government is addressing these losers.
All you say is always lies, because you are an anti-semite, and an anti-US,
piece of *****.
J.
Israel's records speak for themselves. Every self-respecting organization
(including UN), and individual (including majority of Jews and Israelis)
condemn the outrageous violent crimes against Palestinians. Whatever you
may think or say has ZERO bearing on the truth.
Stat.
*****. Israeli were opposed to air strikes of heavy missiles on
buildings that can't obviously sustain them, the victims there were not
killed by the bomb that targetted the militants, but by the neighboring
building that fell down because they are badly built. Take a poll that has
not resulted from a calculation mistake.
Every self respecting Jews or Israelis including indivviduals support
Israel defending itself against the barbaric Muslim killers. You lie.
Nothing new here, you are an anti-semite.
J.
Stat.
Even many decent *Jews* object strongly to Israel's
actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
Nah, I wouldn't cvall them decent.
J.
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07 Dec 2004 07:48:34 AM |
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MonsieurStat a écrit:
LOL
You amuse me Jean.
Well, let me first apologize for calling you an idiot in the other message. I
felt bad about it afterwards. What I really meant to say was that the
_content_ of your message was idiotic.
With that out of the way, I have to say that your reply here is even more
idiotic. Bordering moronic in fact :-) However, I sincerely thank you for the
link to this poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14113)
It is very interesting and revealing.
I think it is perhaps the first time in American history where the population
is indeed aware of what's happening somewhere across the world at the same
time as the rest of the world, and this despite the unprecedented propaganda
campaigns and censorship by the US government in this business.
Bah, you lie again.
There is no censorship or propaganda, American are open, contrary to the
propaganda of those who lied about the legality of the operation and
take the side of the Muslim murderers, which is, like with Israel,
partly their betrayal of the international solidarity, that makes these
things hard to achieve. The anti-US or anti-Israel losers all over the
world, and in the US, can ALL kiss my *****.
J.
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07 Dec 2004 08:07:47 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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MonsieurStat a écrit:
LOL
You amuse me Jean.
Well, let me first apologize for calling you an idiot in the other
message. I
felt bad about it afterwards. What I really meant to say was that the
_content_ of your message was idiotic.
With that out of the way, I have to say that your reply here is even
more
idiotic. Bordering moronic in fact :-) However, I sincerely thank you
for the
link to this poll
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14113)
It is very interesting and revealing.
I think it is perhaps the first time in American history where the
population
is indeed aware of what's happening somewhere across the world at the
same
time as the rest of the world, and this despite the unprecedented
propaganda
campaigns and censorship by the US government in this business.
Bah, you lie again.
There is no censorship or propaganda, American are open, contrary to the
propaganda of those who lied about the legality of the operation and
take the side of the Muslim murderers, which is, like with Israel,
partly their betrayal of the international solidarity, that makes these
things hard to achieve. The anti-US or anti-Israel losers all over the
world, and in the US, can ALL kiss my *****.
...but only if they're 5 years old or under, right Jean?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MorpheusDreams/message/1436
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From: Jean Guernon <jguernon@xxxx.xx.xxx
Date: Sat Aug 14, 1999 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Jean! Visited Elsa on Sunday!
Gerald D'Aoust a écrit :
From: Gerald D'Aoust <gdaoust@i...>
Dear Jean,
sorry about my late reply but just wanted to say that I did my best to
deliver your book to Elsa on Sunday afternoon... as you publically
undirectly asked me on this list and I held my promise and went... and
finally met with her later on in the afternoon. I have to say that I'm
still a little shaken up from that visit.
However, I drove by her father's (Leo) place and had a great time
discussing with him. Later, I had the pleasure to meet with Marie-Claire,
his wife who had been blueberry picking for a few hours. They told me lots
of things about you, who 23 years ago, madly fell in love for some bizarre
reason with their 4 years old oldest daughter. I have to tell you that
Marie-Claire had lots to say... a bit too much actually. She said that you
were very intelligent... but, she said other things too which were not
sooo
pleasant.
A little while later, Elsa arrived with her hubby-boyfriend, Gaby, and
their 3 nice kids. Gaby is a nice, happy going, built like an ox,
lumberjack... and the 3 kids are really nice. Elsa looked pretty good,
much
better than the last time when she saw me at her door around the First of
the Year, when she was awfully sick, she told me.
To be honest with you, Jean, none of them want to even hear about you...
and I had to come back with your book and only Leo took the time to look
at
at it and verify your handwriting... None of them believefd that it was
normal for a full grown man to fall in love with a baby girl who had not
yet learnt how to express herself... and bother her for sooo long.
Honestly, they made a few jokes about the bio-chemistry which you were
delighting in studying... in those days???
None want to hear from you... and I could tell you the reasons in private
if you wish to review the past?
Take care, Bud... and let me know what I should do with the book?... and
sorry for the sad news that Elsa's love is definitely for someone else.
Gérald
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I'm back from Montreal. I went there for a few days in order to give
an interview on "CKAC" (they even lodged me in the "Chateau
Versailles"!). It went ok. Anyway. I'm retrieving everything of the
past three days, and this well, you knew most of this Gerald. One
thing is not exact though: I knew Elsa when she was four but she was a
bit older when I fell in love with her.
You knew how I feel about her parents and how they felt about me. Me I
want her to have the book, not them. Because of their attitude, and
you know that, I can't relate to them. I don't care about them, they
are NOT human.
You knew I wanted her to have the book. But hey, if you won't, or
can't, deliver it, well, what can I say, send it back...
I'll see if I can find another way for her to have it.
So... thanks anyway.
J.
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07 Dec 2004 08:29:56 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:48:34 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
MonsieurStat a écrit:
LOL
You amuse me Jean.
Well, let me first apologize for calling you an idiot in the other
message. I felt bad about it afterwards. What I really meant to say was
that the _content_ of your message was idiotic.
With that out of the way, I have to say that your reply here is even
more idiotic. Bordering moronic in fact :-) However, I sincerely thank
you for the link to this poll
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14113)
It is very interesting and revealing.
I think it is perhaps the first time in American history where the
population is indeed aware of what's happening somewhere across the
world at the same time as the rest of the world, and this despite the
unprecedented propaganda campaigns and censorship by the US government
in this business.
Bah, you lie again.
There is no censorship or propaganda, American are open, contrary to the
propaganda of those who lied about the legality of the operation and take
the side of the Muslim murderers, which is, like with Israel, partly their
betrayal of the international solidarity, that makes these things hard to
achieve. The anti-US or anti-Israel losers all over the world, and in the
US, can ALL kiss my *****.
J.
After you have googled 'Irgun', perhaps you could comment on the
following:
Jewish extremist settler jailed
An Israeli court has sentenced a Jewish settler to eight years
imprisonment for membership of an extremist group.
Shahar Dvir-Zeliger was handed a lesser sentence after co-operating with
investigators and leading them to where a weapons cache used by the group.
The cache in a West Bank cave contained guns, anti-tank rockets and
ammunition stolen from the Israeli army.
Prosecutors said the Dvir-Zeliger was member of the Bat Ayin cell, which
has killed eight Palestinians.
Three members of the group were convicted in 2003 for a bombing at a
Palestinian school in east Jerusalem in 2002 that left a teacher and four
children injured.
Two were sentenced to 15 years' jail and the third received a 12-year
term.
In handing down the sentence to Dvir-Zeliger - who lives in an illegal
settlement outpost near Nablus - the judge said: "The phenomenon of Jewish
citizens of Israel belonging to a terrorist organisation aiming to harm
Arab residents needs to be eradicated by severe punishment."
The perpetrators of a series of shooting attacks against Palestinian
motorists between 2001 and 2002 that killed eight people, including a
baby, have yet to be identified.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4075001.stm
Perhaps you could tell us when these terrorists' homes will be bulldozed
or destroyed by Apache or F18?
Rinso
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Yeah, bandits, that were arrested and condemned, while the Palies have a
thousands tome more terrorists victim, and don't do such a thing to
them, hell, they want a terrorist king pin as a president.
Funny how you anti-Semite point to one or two bandit(s) in the other
camp, and never show the real horror that is going on and the real
decency of the Israeli despite it.
Irgun is certainly not considered as some hero stuff in Israel as we see
(contrary to what the little anti-Semite ***** tw pretends BTW), contrary
to Hamas and the other barbaric murderers gang consideration given by
Palestinians.
You show the problem just by trying to hide it.
Thank you very much Ricewind, you debunk yourself and your despicable ilk.
J.
Rincewind a écrit:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:48:34 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
MonsieurStat a écrit:
LOL
You amuse me Jean.
Well, let me first apologize for calling you an idiot in the other
message. I felt bad about it afterwards. What I really meant to say was
that the _content_ of your message was idiotic.
With that out of the way, I have to say that your reply here is even
more idiotic. Bordering moronic in fact :-) However, I sincerely thank
you for the link to this poll
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14113)
It is very interesting and revealing.
I think it is perhaps the first time in American history where the
population is indeed aware of what's happening somewhere across the
world at the same time as the rest of the world, and this despite the
unprecedented propaganda campaigns and censorship by the US government
in this business.
Bah, you lie again.
There is no censorship or propaganda, American are open, contrary to the
propaganda of those who lied about the legality of the operation and take
the side of the Muslim murderers, which is, like with Israel, partly their
betrayal of the international solidarity, that makes these things hard to
achieve. The anti-US or anti-Israel losers all over the world, and in the
US, can ALL kiss my *****.
J.
After you have googled 'Irgun', perhaps you could comment on the
following:
Jewish extremist settler jailed
An Israeli court has sentenced a Jewish settler to eight years
imprisonment for membership of an extremist group.
Shahar Dvir-Zeliger was handed a lesser sentence after co-operating with
investigators and leading them to where a weapons cache used by the group.
The cache in a West Bank cave contained guns, anti-tank rockets and
ammunition stolen from the Israeli army.
Prosecutors said the Dvir-Zeliger was member of the Bat Ayin cell, which
has killed eight Palestinians.
Three members of the group were convicted in 2003 for a bombing at a
Palestinian school in east Jerusalem in 2002 that left a teacher and four
children injured.
Two were sentenced to 15 years' jail and the third received a 12-year
term.
In handing down the sentence to Dvir-Zeliger - who lives in an illegal
settlement outpost near Nablus - the judge said: "The phenomenon of Jewish
citizens of Israel belonging to a terrorist organisation aiming to harm
Arab residents needs to be eradicated by severe punishment."
The perpetrators of a series of shooting attacks against Palestinian
motorists between 2001 and 2002 that killed eight people, including a
baby, have yet to be identified.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4075001.stm
Perhaps you could tell us when these terrorists' homes will be bulldozed
or destroyed by Apache or F18?
Rinso
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:33:35 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
BTW, this is of course a lie. I am talking about those against the
existence of Israel being anti-semites. Even if a few exceptions exist
within Jews, mostly outside Israel, and these exceptions are the radical
leninists and some religious nuts. All the others are proven anti-semites.
The Jews say it is fine to consider a country an enemy. People can
think
Iraq is their enemy and no one says that is outrageous. They may argue
whether Iraq is really an enemy or not, but they don't just dismiss
the idea of enemies out of hand.
Then the Jews say that it is not OK to be against a group that is
not
a country, such as the Jews. Jews say only countries can be enemies
and we
should never fight our real enemies, who are the Jews themselves.
The Jewish controlled said the French were "cheese eating surrender
monkeys". Why can't the
French howl "anti-French" like the Jews howl "anti-Semite"? Because
the French don't
control the media, Jews do.
This is what President Nixon said:
http://www.hnn.us/comments/15664.html
"There may be some truth in that if the Arabs have some complaints
about my
policy towards Israel, they have to realize that the Jews in the U.S.
control
the entire information and propaganda machine, the large newspapers,
the
motion pictures, radio and television, and the big companies. And
there is a
force that we have to take into consideration."
Palestinians can absorb whatever Israel hurls at them
By Reach CharleyReese |
Posted July 11, 2001, 11:14 PM EDT
The Israelis bulldozed another 14 Palestinian homes
this week in a refugee camp in Gaza. The United
States said the act was "provocative."
Actually, it was a war crime. Actually, what the Israelis
have been doing to the Palestinians has been correctly
characterized by the International Red Cross as war
crimes and by a United Nations official as "an affront to
civilization."
But, hey, you misled, sleeping Americans, you don't
know what a breakthrough it is for the U.S. State
Department to utter even the mildest criticism of some
Israeli atrocity.
"Provocative."
Wow. Golly gee whiz. Old George W. Bush promised
he would provide leadership, and that's real leadership, calling a war
crime
"provocative." Finally, after eight months of refusing to utter even
that bland a
criticism, he managed to say the destruction of homes so precious to
such
terribly poor people is "provocative."
It is such an improvement over Warren Christopher. When he was
secretary of
state, the Israelis were indulging in one of their periodic and
gratuitous
artillery
attacks against villages in South Lebanon.
A group of about 100 Lebanese women and children fled to a United
Nations
compound for safety. It didn't matter. The Israelis fired on it
deliberately, as a
subsequent U.N. investigation demonstrated. They were all killed,
along with the
U.N. peacekeepers. Bits and pieces of their flesh hung like grotesque
decorations, dripping blood from shattered debris and blasted trees.
Do you know what Christopher said?
"The United States urges both sides to show restraint."
I wonder how he expected the shattered flesh of the dead Lebanese
women and
children to show restraint. Perhaps he thought that they should not
bleed so
profusely from their wounds. I think that was the very first time I
felt ashamed
to
be an American, listening to that rat-faced, cold-blooded
international lawyer
brushing off an atrocity like a crumb on his expensive coat sleeve.
One day, Americans are going to wake up from more than 50 years of
Zionist
propaganda and suddenly feel like strangers in a strange land, to
borrow the
title
of an old science-fiction work. They're finally going to see the
simple truth:
Israelis drove Palestinians out of their own country and confiscated
their land
and
wealth. Israelis refused to allow (and still refuse) Palestinian
refugees to
return,
despite United Nations resolutions instructing them to do so.
In 1967, the Israelis attacked and took the West Bank, Gaza and East
Jerusalem. Since then, they have ruled it and still rule, despite U.N.
resolutions
against their actions.
Now, after dragging out so-called peace negotiations for 10 years --
how can the
simple question, "When are you going to withdraw from the territories
you
illegally
occupy?" take 10 years? -- the drama is heading toward a climax.
The Israelis have tried economic strangulation. They have tried to
force the
Palestinians to accept a chopped-up pseudo-country. They have tried
killing their
children, demolishing their homes and assassinating their leaders.
They tried
uprooting their agricultural orchards and sealing the Palestinians off
from normal
travel.
By the way, where are you environmentalists while the Israelis commit
this
environmental atrocity? Don't you know how long it takes for an olive
tree to
reach
maturity and start bearing fruit? I thought you were concerned about
the
environment. Oh, excuse me -- not when it's a Palestinian environment.
My
mistake. I sometimes forget who is a hypocrite and who isn't, because
there are
so many these days.
What's next, of course, is for the Israelis to take off the bloody
glove and
commit
one super massacre in an attempt to drive the Palestinians out or to
break their
spirit. This is what the Palestinians expect. They are bracing for it.
They know
that the Israelis have elected the one politician, Ariel Sharon,
willing to do it.
They figure they can absorb that blow. If the survivors can rise from
the rubble
and
say to the Israelis, "You can bury us here, but you can never drive us
out of our
own country," then the Israelis will have exhausted their options.
They will dump
Sharon and replace him with somebody who will finally, at long last,
do some
serious talking.
It's already terrible what the Palestinians are going through, and
this new
assault,
when it comes, will be far worse. They need the support now of decent
people
with the courage to stand up for human rights. As you can see, the
Bush
administration prefers to remain on its knees. Most members of
Congress are
afraid even to do that. They prefer the supine position, total
prostration.
If you can't find the courage to speak out against evil financed with
your tax
money, then at least watch as Palestinian children show you how real
men and
women live and die with honor.
Reach Charley Reese at 407-420-5315 or creese@orlandosentinel.com.
Source: The Orlando Sentinel
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-edpreese12071201jul12.story
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info http://www.RealNews247.com
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07 Dec 2004 07:56:45 AM |
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Topaz a écrit:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:33:35 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
BTW, this is of course a lie. I am talking about those against the
existence of Israel being anti-semites. Even if a few exceptions exist
within Jews, mostly outside Israel, and these exceptions are the radical
leninists and some religious nuts. All the others are proven anti-semites.
The Jews say it is fine to consider a country an enemy. People can
think
Repeat of the same *****. LOL
You don't only wallow in your abject lies, but you also have no
originality, just repeating the same ***** over and over again as if this
would make it more true, or less outrageous. LOL
Sure there are a few criminals in every country, people like Charles
Manson, doesn't make the country criminal, ONLY Palestine has a criminal
condemned to more sentences than Charles Manson that would dare run for
the presidency, it tells a lot about that disputed territory doesn't it.
You Muslims terrorists supporters wallow in lies and hate and murder, of
course you will be crushed like bugs eventually, the question is how
long will it take before good people in your surroundings wake up to
your criminal scheme and stop you from doing these three things.
J.
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| User: "Rincewind" |
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07 Dec 2004 08:15:20 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:56:45 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Topaz a écrit:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:33:35 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
BTW, this is of course a lie. I am talking about those against the
existence of Israel being anti-semites. Even if a few exceptions exist
within Jews, mostly outside Israel, and these exceptions are the radical
leninists and some religious nuts. All the others are proven
anti-semites.
The Jews say it is fine to consider a country an enemy. People can
think
Repeat of the same *****. LOL
You don't only wallow in your abject lies, but you also have no
originality, just repeating the same ***** over and over again as if this
would make it more true, or less outrageous. LOL
Sure there are a few criminals in every country, people like Charles
Manson, doesn't make the country criminal, ONLY Palestine has a criminal
condemned to more sentences than Charles Manson that would dare run for
the presidency, it tells a lot about that disputed territory doesn't it.
You Muslims terrorists supporters wallow in lies and hate and murder, of
course you will be crushed like bugs eventually, the question is how long
will it take before good people in your surroundings wake up to your
criminal scheme and stop you from doing these three things.
J.
After you have googled 'Irgun', perhaps you could comment on the
following:
Jewish extremist settler jailed
An Israeli court has sentenced a Jewish settler to eight years
imprisonment for membership of an extremist group.
Shahar Dvir-Zeliger was handed a lesser sentence after co-operating with
investigators and leading them to where a weapons cache used by the group.
The cache in a West Bank cave contained guns, anti-tank rockets and
ammunition stolen from the Israeli army.
Prosecutors said the Dvir-Zeliger was member of the Bat Ayin cell, which
has killed eight Palestinians.
Three members of the group were convicted in 2003 for a bombing at a
Palestinian school in east Jerusalem in 2002 that left a teacher and four
children injured.
Two were sentenced to 15 years' jail and the third received a 12-year
term.
In handing down the sentence to Dvir-Zeliger - who lives in an illegal
settlement outpost near Nablus - the judge said: "The phenomenon of Jewish
citizens of Israel belonging to a terrorist organisation aiming to harm
Arab residents needs to be eradicated by severe punishment."
The perpetrators of a series of shooting attacks against Palestinian
motorists between 2001 and 2002 that killed eight people, including a
baby, have yet to be identified.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4075001.stm
Perhaps you could tell us when these terrorists' homes will be bulldozed
or destroyed by Apache or F18?
Rinso
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08 Dec 2004 09:44:48 PM |
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Yeah, bandits, that were arrested and condemned, while the Palies have a
thousands tome more terrorists victim, and don't do such a thing to
them, hell, they want a terrorist king pin as a president.
Funny how you anti-Semite point to one or two bandit(s) in the other
camp, and never show the real horror that is going on and the real
decency of the Israeli despite it.
Irgun is certainly not considered as some hero stuff in Israel as we see
(contrary to what the little anti-Semite ***** tw pretends BTW), contrary
to Hamas and the other barbaric murderers gang consideration given by
Palestinians.
You show the problem just by trying to hide it.
Thank you very much Ricewind, you debunk yourself and your despicable ilk.
J.
Rincewind a écrit:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:56:45 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Topaz a écrit:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:33:35 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
BTW, this is of course a lie. I am talking about those against the
existence of Israel being anti-semites. Even if a few exceptions exist
within Jews, mostly outside Israel, and these exceptions are the radical
leninists and some religious nuts. All the others are proven
anti-semites.
The Jews say it is fine to consider a country an enemy. People can
think
Repeat of the same *****. LOL
You don't only wallow in your abject lies, but you also have no
originality, just repeating the same ***** over and over again as if this
would make it more true, or less outrageous. LOL
Sure there are a few criminals in every country, people like Charles
Manson, doesn't make the country criminal, ONLY Palestine has a criminal
condemned to more sentences than Charles Manson that would dare run for
the presidency, it tells a lot about that disputed territory doesn't it.
You Muslims terrorists supporters wallow in lies and hate and murder, of
course you will be crushed like bugs eventually, the question is how long
will it take before good people in your surroundings wake up to your
criminal scheme and stop you from doing these three things.
J.
After you have googled 'Irgun', perhaps you could comment on the
following:
Jewish extremist settler jailed
An Israeli court has sentenced a Jewish settler to eight years
imprisonment for membership of an extremist group.
Shahar Dvir-Zeliger was handed a lesser sentence after co-operating with
investigators and leading them to where a weapons cache used by the group.
The cache in a West Bank cave contained guns, anti-tank rockets and
ammunition stolen from the Israeli army.
Prosecutors said the Dvir-Zeliger was member of the Bat Ayin cell, which
has killed eight Palestinians.
Three members of the group were convicted in 2003 for a bombing at a
Palestinian school in east Jerusalem in 2002 that left a teacher and four
children injured.
Two were sentenced to 15 years' jail and the third received a 12-year
term.
In handing down the sentence to Dvir-Zeliger - who lives in an illegal
settlement outpost near Nablus - the judge said: "The phenomenon of Jewish
citizens of Israel belonging to a terrorist organisation aiming to harm
Arab residents needs to be eradicated by severe punishment."
The perpetrators of a series of shooting attacks against Palestinian
motorists between 2001 and 2002 that killed eight people, including a
baby, have yet to be identified.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4075001.stm
Perhaps you could tell us when these terrorists' homes will be bulldozed
or destroyed by Apache or F18?
Rinso
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| User: "tw" |
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09 Dec 2004 04:28:03 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:QSPtd.6436715$6p.1015308@news.easynews.com...
Yeah, bandits, that were arrested and condemned, while the Palies have a
thousands tome more terrorists victim, and don't do such a thing to
them, hell, they want a terrorist king pin as a president.
Funny how you anti-Semite point to one or two bandit(s) in the other
camp, and never show the real horror that is going on and the real
decency of the Israeli despite it.
Irgun is certainly not considered as some hero stuff in Israel as we see
(contrary to what the little anti-Semite ***** tw pretends BTW),
LOL! I never said they were, I merely pointed out Irgun awas a terrorist
organisation, which it most certainly was. Oh, and as for his "anti-semite"
slurs, anyone can look in google to see where I have repeatedly challenged
Guernon to find ONE statement from me anyone other than him regards as
anti-semitic. Guernon (a durg abuser with a criminal record and an unhealthy
interest in four year old girls -look it up!) failed completely, of course.
That's one of the reasons he can't help sniping at me..*snigger*
contrary
to Hamas and the other barbaric murderers gang consideration given by
Palestinians.
You show the problem just by trying to hide it.
Thank you very much Ricewind, you debunk yourself and your despicable ilk.
J.
Rincewind a écrit:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:56:45 +0000, Jean Guernon mumbled something like
this:
Topaz a écrit:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:33:35 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
BTW, this is of course a lie. I am talking about those against the
existence of Israel being anti-semites. Even if a few exceptions exist
within Jews, mostly outside Israel, and these exceptions are the
radical
leninists and some religious nuts. All the others are proven
anti-semites.
The Jews say it is fine to consider a country an enemy. People can
think
Repeat of the same *****. LOL
You don't only wallow in your abject lies, but you also have no
originality, just repeating the same ***** over and over again as if this
would make it more true, or less outrageous. LOL
Sure there are a few criminals in every country, people like Charles
Manson, doesn't make the country criminal, ONLY Palestine has a criminal
condemned to more sentences than Charles Manson that would dare run for
the presidency, it tells a lot about that disputed territory doesn't it.
You Muslims terrorists supporters wallow in lies and hate and murder, of
course you will be crushed like bugs eventually, the question is how
long
will it take before good people in your surroundings wake up to your
criminal scheme and stop you from doing these three things.
J.
After you have googled 'Irgun', perhaps you could comment on the
following:
Jewish extremist settler jailed
An Israeli court has sentenced a Jewish settler to eight years
imprisonment for membership of an extremist group.
Shahar Dvir-Zeliger was handed a lesser sentence after co-operating with
investigators and leading them to where a weapons cache used by the
group.
The cache in a West Bank cave contained guns, anti-tank rockets and
ammunition stolen from the Israeli army.
Prosecutors said the Dvir-Zeliger was member of the Bat Ayin cell, which
has killed eight Palestinians.
Three members of the group were convicted in 2003 for a bombing at a
Palestinian school in east Jerusalem in 2002 that left a teacher and
four
children injured.
Two were sentenced to 15 years' jail and the third received a 12-year
term.
In handing down the sentence to Dvir-Zeliger - who lives in an illegal
settlement outpost near Nablus - the judge said: "The phenomenon of
Jewish
citizens of Israel belonging to a terrorist organisation aiming to harm
Arab residents needs to be eradicated by severe punishment."
The perpetrators of a series of shooting attacks against Palestinian
motorists between 2001 and 2002 that killed eight people, including a
baby, have yet to be identified.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4075001.stm
Perhaps you could tell us when these terrorists' homes will be bulldozed
or destroyed by Apache or F18?
Rinso
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| User: "Topaz" |
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| Title: Re: Re: ONLY to Islam because of MUSLIM aggression Re: Why Hitler is a Hero |
09 Dec 2004 09:04:47 PM |
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"Witnesses watched as more than 60 Palestinian shops were bulldozed to
the ground this week in one West Bank village, while the owners stood
by and watch helplessly. But not one American in ten saw or heard
about this in the US press. An educated American pro-life activist was
surprised to disbelief when I told him that the Israeli death losses
run about one-fourth the number or Palestinians killed by Israelis. He
thought the statistics were reversed, having never heard or seen a
count in the US press, he has been brain scrubbed. Misinformation by
the US press is not excusable in the Internet age. So Israel has
provided an Orwellian propaganda filter called the Israeli Ministry of
Foreign Affairs (IMFA) that makes it all possible. It provides the
convenient excuse the US press needs to look the other way and print
abridged stories, keeping most of us ignorant. The propaganda arm of
the Israeli military has once again been caught purposefully lying
about the death count among its forces. We believe their purpose in
doing this is to condition Americans into accepting Israel's use of
American-made weapons of mass destruction against the vulnerable
civilian population in Gaza and the West Bank. Israel's willing
facilitator is the US Media, which spreads their distorted stories in
the USA. This same pattern of misrepresentation is repeated again and
again, proving how important and routine propaganda is to Israel. On
December 5th, the IMFA released an account of two suspected sacrifice
bombers (wrongly called suicide bombers*) who allegedly killed 22
persons and wounded more than 100. But the press release failed to
mention that there were also Israeli military casualties in the raid.
Furthermore, their account omitted the fact that a female army
sergeant was among the killed. The omission is significant. It fits
perfectly into the predictable pattern of how the IMFA deceives
Americans almost daily. This practice repeatedly uses almost every
report of Israeli deaths to distort the facts of their conflict with
the Palestinians. We will now teach you how to read between the lies
and know when the story is distorted.
THE PATTERN OF DECEPTION
On November 19, 2002, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs (IMFA)
re-manufactured a similar story about a Palestinian sacrifice raid on
a military target. Twelve Israeli soldiers and paramilitary fighting
men were killed and there was no collateral damage (civilians dead).
The propagandists changed the "facts" to call the raid a "Massacre of
innocent (Israeli) civilians," as the story was carried in the US
press. It is a total and complete bald-faced lie which We Hold These
Truths alone corrected it in our article: U. S. Media, Caught Lying...
Again http://www.whtt.org/articles/021224.htm
This writer put the facts together from the Israeli military's own
documents one month after the event was misreported. Do you, dear
reader, know how to recognize such lies for yourself so you don't have
to wait for us to unravel it for you? To do this one must first
understand the quaint language of the IMFA. We call these lies
"z-facts" (short for Zionist facts) meaning lies that are couched in
official, narrative sounding language but are indeed untrue. Here is
how the Hebron report was distorted by z- facts, which the Media
reported as rear facts. The first release from the IMFA read:
"THE TERROR ATTACK IN HEBRON CLAIMED 12 LIVES." and "PALESTINIAN
GUNMEN" had opened fire on "JEWISH WORSHIPPERS WALKING HOME FROM
RELIGIOUS SERVICES,"
Z-facts differ from bald-faced lies because they do not state outright
all the killed or wounded are civilians, but it is clearly implied.
(In those rare cases where everyone killed are indeed civilian, the
IMFA says so and saves its lies for a later day.) The truth is told
only if it suits the teller. By calling an attack on an armed military
unit a "terror attack" on "Jewish worshipers" and "claiming 12 lives,"
the z-facts leave the a clear impression that those killed were
civilians. Any honest account would have called it "an attack on
Israeli military unit by Palestinian guerillas" etc. In our previous
article we explained the procedure as follows: "The Israeli Ministry
of Foreign Affairs is a propaganda arm of the Israeli Defense Force
(IDF). --They are the first to know who is killed. But they cause the
story to be circulated that all killed were civilians because it
serves their purpose. Then, once the misinformation has reached the
American public, the corrected story is allowed to surface in Israel,
though the false images are never corrected in the eyes of the
American public." http://www.whtt.org/articles/021224.htm (please
forgive us for quoting ourselves, but we are the best source)
In January 5th story Israel did it again. This time every one of our
readers should have detected the lie without being told. The press in
both countries used the same predictable, deceptive language. Each
stated "22 Israelis" had been killed and many more wounded. Had all
those killed or wounded had been non-military the report would most
likely have called them "civilians." The generic term "Israelis"
suggest to us that the IMFA is hiding something, not wanting to
identify who was really killed. They were.
Later the same day, a sad corrected story was carried with the names
of those killed. The IMFA stated that all of the victims had been
identified and included Staff Sgt. Mazal Orkobi of Azor. Ha'aretz
subsequently revealed in an obituary that Sgt. Orkobi was a 20 year-
old female who was on her first day of active duty with the Israeli
Defense Forces. But this part of the story never reached the USA. Nor
can we find a disclosure as to how many of the 120 wounded were
military. As usual, the IMFA did not disclose those who were in the
active reserves but not on duty at the time of death...
But because military were killed and possibly wounded, no
one can conclude they targeted civilians. In all but a few sacrifice
bombings military are killed or wounded. The IMFA had two reasons for
keeping Sergeant Orkobi's name out of the print. They can garner
sympathy for their air raids if the American public believes the
sacrifice bombers are targeting civilians only. Israel kills
Palestinian civilians by the dozens and do not even bother to
apologize.
The second reason Israel keeps Sergeant Orkobi's name out of
American's minds is that most do not know that Israeli's draft their
girls and puts them in harms way. If American Christians knew about
the mistreatment of Israeli women, including the use of Military-paid
abortion as a birth control method, many would wonder about their
unquestioned support of the Israeli war machine.
Christian Israeli Patriots such as Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham and
Jerry Falwell, who Ariel Sharon calls the Christian Zionists, might be
embarrassed to explain their undying devotion to a regime which drafts
women into combat, marches them hip to hip with men, and provides free
abortions for the resulting problems. Some might wake up and actually
wonder if boys and girls are conditioned to kill and torture
Palestinian including children. Israel and a complicit US Media solve
these twin problems by doctoring press releases with false statements
that omit the loss of military personnel in guerilla raids. Female
names are never associated with the military even though they make up
about 1/3 of the total draftees.
* ("Suicide bomber:" Suicide is the act of taking ones one life for
the purpose of ending it. Sacrifice bombers have never been shown to
have a desire to stop living; their motive is to find and destroy
enemy personal regardless of the cost. Thus the term "sacrifice
bombers" is more accurate in describing them. The former is an Israeli
propaganda label. )
REFERENCES LITERATURE FROM WHTT: Israel's policy of abusing its own
women is detailed in two previous articles by this author. "THE
EMBARRASSING ABUSE OF WOMEN IN ISRAEL'S WAR AGAINST MEN" Charles E
Carlson (http://www.whtt.org/articles/020607.htm ) and "ISRAEL'S
SLAUGHTER OF ISRAELIS ABORTION AND A DOUBLE-MINDED PEOPLE" By Se·n D.
Mac an Airchinnigh (http://www.whtt.org/rpr/021104.htm)
FROM OUR BOOKSTORE: http://www.whtt.org/bookstor.htm For the truth
about the Occupied Territories: THE PEOPLE AND THE LAND, by
award-winning photographer Tom Hayes. Perhaps the most important
documentary ever made about Israel and Palestine. The Public
Broadcasting Corporation paid for this film, then refused to air it.
An unforgettable documentation of bravery which exposes the brutality
and repression by the Israeli military. Filmed in Gaza, The West Bank,
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