Ben Mikra wrote:
Claude A. Biggs, a printer of Lansing, Michigan, has devoted a
life-time to Bible study and the printing of millions of tracts for
missionary endeavors. As a true seeker and student of the Scriptures, he
finally realized
Duhhhhhhh......
that Christianity has no basis of truth but that
falsehood constitutes its foundation.
The fundamental falsity of Christian theology has to do with the inter-
pretation of the 'resurrection' as a physical resurrection from the grave;
which, by the way, is also the Pharisaic interpretation which required
that Jesus be eliminated for contradicting.
In this article Printer Biggs
gives the reasons why he cannot accept Christianity any more.
Anyone who clearly understands the Teaching of Jesus would not
accept Christianity anymore.
This is why the censorship of the Truth by the media is so crucial to
the continued preservation of the world-wide Christo-fascist empire.
WHY I GAVE UP JESUS
He didn't give up Jesus.
What he gave up was Paul's interpretation of the Teaching of
Jesus...but maybe not.
Claude A. Biggs
Another spider weaving his web around the most beautiful flowers.
Or a dog in a manger; take your pick.
This is the mirror image of the Christian Satanic idolatrization of Jesus.
And it pretends to be something better.
The fundamental issue here is the Truth: What is the Truth about the
Doctrine of the 'resurrection' implied in the Torah and specifically
referred to by Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed?
But neither the fascist Christian religious officials nor the fascist
rabbis are willing to examine this question. Their goal is not the
Truth, but merely the preservation of their power. So they all focus
on the person of Jesus in one way or another. It is a much 'easier'
task than attempting to determine Doctrinal Truth.
And, in the Middle East, you can see the consequences of both
this teaching and the determined refusal of the media to challenge
such nonsense.
Michael Cecil
Web page at:
http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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17 May 2004 05:40:33 AM |
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I haven't done that, but I have accepted the fact that Jesus has
given up on me...
Paul
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| User: "Cleo" |
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17 May 2004 06:57:42 AM |
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"Paul Duca" <tomservo@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:40A89689.6D5497E4@comcast.net...
I haven't done that, but I have accepted the fact that Jesus has
given up on me...
Paul
I am sorry that you are dead Paul. It is only in death that Jesus ever gives
up on anyone.
Cleo
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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20 May 2004 08:48:20 PM |
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Hard for jesus to do anything, since he never existed!
"Cleo" <gentile@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:ZK1qc.31763$5a.5268@okepread03...
"Paul Duca" <tomservo@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:40A89689.6D5497E4@comcast.net...
I haven't done that, but I have accepted the fact that Jesus has
given up on me...
Paul
I am sorry that you are dead Paul. It is only in death that Jesus ever
gives
up on anyone.
Cleo
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| User: "Cleo" |
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20 May 2004 10:19:31 PM |
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"Riain Barton" <riain@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Eddrc.23439$KE6.14240@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Hard for jesus to do anything, since he never existed!
How do you know? What proof do you have, a bunch of documents where someone
said so.
Cleo
"Cleo" <gentile@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:ZK1qc.31763$5a.5268@okepread03...
"Paul Duca" <tomservo@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:40A89689.6D5497E4@comcast.net...
I haven't done that, but I have accepted the fact that Jesus
has
given up on me...
Paul
I am sorry that you are dead Paul. It is only in death that Jesus ever
gives
up on anyone.
Cleo
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| User: "Kelly" |
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20 May 2004 10:23:51 PM |
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Cleo wrote:
"Riain Barton" <riain@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Eddrc.23439$KE6.14240@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Hard for jesus to do anything, since he never existed!
How do you know? What proof do you have, a bunch of documents where someone
said so.
Cleo
because something is in print, that makes it true?
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| User: "Ben Mikra" |
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20 May 2004 08:56:00 PM |
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Riain Barton wrote:
Hard for jesus to do anything, since he never existed!
*Outside of the NT anyway!
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| User: "Padraic Brown" |
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17 May 2004 12:50:17 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 06:57:42 -0500, "Cleo" <gentile@127.0.0.1> wrote:
"Paul Duca" <tomservo@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:40A89689.6D5497E4@comcast.net...
I haven't done that, but I have accepted the fact that Jesus has
given up on me...
Paul
I am sorry that you are dead Paul. It is only in death that Jesus ever gives
up on anyone.
That's sad. Buddha doesn't give up, even when you're dead. I suspect
Jesus wouldn't give up either!
Padraic.
la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu
ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu.
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| User: "Tadapope" |
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17 May 2004 01:05:00 PM |
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NEVER give up and NEVER begf!
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| User: "Alan W. Craft" |
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23 May 2004 12:55:03 AM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 10:40:33 GMT, Paul Duca <tomservo@comcast.net> ...emanated:
I haven't done that, but I have accepted the fact that Jesus has
given up on me...
Paul
The Christ has done nothing of the sort; rather it is YOU, Duca,
who have abandoned "I AM."
God never deserts; it is we who walk away from Him instead.
Alan
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| User: "Uziyahu" |
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16 May 2004 09:04:34 AM |
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The fundamental truth of the Torah regarding the resurrection is that the
Torah nowhere teaches the doctrine of resurrection, even in its list of
blessings for Torah obedience!
Resurrection is a doctrine assimilated from competing world religions a few
centuries B.C.
--Uzi
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:40A764CC.ECD55B4D@earthlink.net...
Ben Mikra wrote:
Claude A. Biggs, a printer of Lansing, Michigan, has devoted a
life-time to Bible study and the printing of millions of tracts for
missionary endeavors. As a true seeker and student of the Scriptures, he
finally realized
Duhhhhhhh......
that Christianity has no basis of truth but that
falsehood constitutes its foundation.
The fundamental falsity of Christian theology has to do with the inter-
pretation of the 'resurrection' as a physical resurrection from the grave;
which, by the way, is also the Pharisaic interpretation which required
that Jesus be eliminated for contradicting.
In this article Printer Biggs
gives the reasons why he cannot accept Christianity any more.
Anyone who clearly understands the Teaching of Jesus would not
accept Christianity anymore.
This is why the censorship of the Truth by the media is so crucial to
the continued preservation of the world-wide Christo-fascist empire.
WHY I GAVE UP JESUS
He didn't give up Jesus.
What he gave up was Paul's interpretation of the Teaching of
Jesus...but maybe not.
Claude A. Biggs
Another spider weaving his web around the most beautiful flowers.
Or a dog in a manger; take your pick.
This is the mirror image of the Christian Satanic idolatrization of Jesus.
And it pretends to be something better.
The fundamental issue here is the Truth: What is the Truth about the
Doctrine of the 'resurrection' implied in the Torah and specifically
referred to by Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed?
But neither the fascist Christian religious officials nor the fascist
rabbis are willing to examine this question. Their goal is not the
Truth, but merely the preservation of their power. So they all focus
on the person of Jesus in one way or another. It is a much 'easier'
task than attempting to determine Doctrinal Truth.
And, in the Middle East, you can see the consequences of both
this teaching and the determined refusal of the media to challenge
such nonsense.
Michael Cecil
Web page at:
http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com
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| User: "Michael Cecil 28SW2" |
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| Title: Re: Resurrection |
16 May 2004 02:19:04 PM |
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Uziyahu wrote:
The fundamental truth of the Torah regarding the resurrection is that the
Torah nowhere teaches the doctrine of resurrection, even in its list of
blessings for Torah obedience!
Resurrection is a doctrine assimilated from competing world religions a few
centuries B.C.
This is what happens when you get some halfwit claiming to understand
the Torah, when all he 'understands' is what he has been conditioned
to believe in by witless rabbis merely repeating, unquestioningly what
they have been taught by their ancestors.
The Doctrine of the resurrection is implied in Deuteronomy 28, where
it is stated that all rewards for good and for evil occur in this world.
Given that evil people often die without having received punishment
for their evil and good people die without having received a reward
for what they have done, the *implication* is that people must live more
than one life in this world to receive those rewards/punishments.
Isaiah received the Revelation of the 'resurrection of the dead'
demonstrating the Truth of the logical consequence/implication of
Deuteronomy 28. Any 'importation' from the pagan religions would
have to do with the modified Egyptian interpretation of the 'resur-
rection' as a physical resurrection from the grave. This is what the
Pharisees believed and is the official position of Orthodox Judaism
to this date.
It's not MY fault you can't see this.
In any case, this screed was just what I had expected.
It was written by a shill for the Jewish religious establishment.
Michael Cecil
--Uzi
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:40A764CC.ECD55B4D@earthlink.net...
Ben Mikra wrote:
Claude A. Biggs, a printer of Lansing, Michigan, has devoted a
life-time to Bible study and the printing of millions of tracts for
missionary endeavors. As a true seeker and student of the Scriptures, he
finally realized
Duhhhhhhh......
that Christianity has no basis of truth but that
falsehood constitutes its foundation.
The fundamental falsity of Christian theology has to do with the inter-
pretation of the 'resurrection' as a physical resurrection from the grave;
which, by the way, is also the Pharisaic interpretation which required
that Jesus be eliminated for contradicting.
In this article Printer Biggs
gives the reasons why he cannot accept Christianity any more.
Anyone who clearly understands the Teaching of Jesus would not
accept Christianity anymore.
This is why the censorship of the Truth by the media is so crucial to
the continued preservation of the world-wide Christo-fascist empire.
WHY I GAVE UP JESUS
He didn't give up Jesus.
What he gave up was Paul's interpretation of the Teaching of
Jesus...but maybe not.
Claude A. Biggs
Another spider weaving his web around the most beautiful flowers.
Or a dog in a manger; take your pick.
This is the mirror image of the Christian Satanic idolatrization of Jesus.
And it pretends to be something better.
The fundamental issue here is the Truth: What is the Truth about the
Doctrine of the 'resurrection' implied in the Torah and specifically
referred to by Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed?
But neither the fascist Christian religious officials nor the fascist
rabbis are willing to examine this question. Their goal is not the
Truth, but merely the preservation of their power. So they all focus
on the person of Jesus in one way or another. It is a much 'easier'
task than attempting to determine Doctrinal Truth.
And, in the Middle East, you can see the consequences of both
this teaching and the determined refusal of the media to challenge
such nonsense.
Michael Cecil
Web page at:
http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Resurrection |
20 May 2004 08:47:22 PM |
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Sure, after the concept was brought back to Israel from Babylon! It is a
total foreign concept and is not HEBRAIC!!
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:40A7BDFC.7643317@earthlink.net...
Uziyahu wrote:
The fundamental truth of the Torah regarding the resurrection is that
the
Torah nowhere teaches the doctrine of resurrection, even in its list of
blessings for Torah obedience!
Resurrection is a doctrine assimilated from competing world religions a
few
centuries B.C.
This is what happens when you get some halfwit claiming to understand
the Torah, when all he 'understands' is what he has been conditioned
to believe in by witless rabbis merely repeating, unquestioningly what
they have been taught by their ancestors.
The Doctrine of the resurrection is implied in Deuteronomy 28, where
it is stated that all rewards for good and for evil occur in this world.
Given that evil people often die without having received punishment
for their evil and good people die without having received a reward
for what they have done, the *implication* is that people must live more
than one life in this world to receive those rewards/punishments.
Isaiah received the Revelation of the 'resurrection of the dead'
demonstrating the Truth of the logical consequence/implication of
Deuteronomy 28. Any 'importation' from the pagan religions would
have to do with the modified Egyptian interpretation of the 'resur-
rection' as a physical resurrection from the grave. This is what the
Pharisees believed and is the official position of Orthodox Judaism
to this date.
It's not MY fault you can't see this.
In any case, this screed was just what I had expected.
It was written by a shill for the Jewish religious establishment.
Michael Cecil
--Uzi
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:40A764CC.ECD55B4D@earthlink.net...
Ben Mikra wrote:
Claude A. Biggs, a printer of Lansing, Michigan, has devoted a
life-time to Bible study and the printing of millions of tracts for
missionary endeavors. As a true seeker and student of the
Scriptures, he
finally realized
Duhhhhhhh......
that Christianity has no basis of truth but that
falsehood constitutes its foundation.
The fundamental falsity of Christian theology has to do with the
inter-
pretation of the 'resurrection' as a physical resurrection from the
grave;
which, by the way, is also the Pharisaic interpretation which required
that Jesus be eliminated for contradicting.
In this article Printer Biggs
gives the reasons why he cannot accept Christianity any more.
Anyone who clearly understands the Teaching of Jesus would not
accept Christianity anymore.
This is why the censorship of the Truth by the media is so crucial to
the continued preservation of the world-wide Christo-fascist empire.
WHY I GAVE UP JESUS
He didn't give up Jesus.
What he gave up was Paul's interpretation of the Teaching of
Jesus...but maybe not.
Claude A. Biggs
Another spider weaving his web around the most beautiful flowers.
Or a dog in a manger; take your pick.
This is the mirror image of the Christian Satanic idolatrization of
Jesus.
And it pretends to be something better.
The fundamental issue here is the Truth: What is the Truth about the
Doctrine of the 'resurrection' implied in the Torah and specifically
referred to by Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed?
But neither the fascist Christian religious officials nor the fascist
rabbis are willing to examine this question. Their goal is not the
Truth, but merely the preservation of their power. So they all focus
on the person of Jesus in one way or another. It is a much 'easier'
task than attempting to determine Doctrinal Truth.
And, in the Middle East, you can see the consequences of both
this teaching and the determined refusal of the media to challenge
such nonsense.
Michael Cecil
Web page at:
http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com
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| User: "Cleo" |
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20 May 2004 10:17:36 PM |
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"Riain Barton" <riain@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Sure, after the concept was brought back to Israel from Babylon! It is a
total foreign concept and is not HEBRAIC!!
Wow!! I wonder where Elijah went after he went up in a whirlwind, and Enoch
he did not die either, but he walked with G-d and then he was not. Then
there was the time that a dead man was tossed into a gave that had Elisha's
bones in it and that man came to life again.
Cleo
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:40A7BDFC.7643317@earthlink.net...
Uziyahu wrote:
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| User: "Michael Cecil 28SW2" |
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21 May 2004 06:03:37 AM |
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Riain Barton wrote:
Sure, after the concept was brought back to Israel from Babylon! It is a
total foreign concept and is not HEBRAIC!!
You can't explain Genesis 2:7.
You can't explain the references to the 'resurrection' by Isaiah,
Daniel, Ezekiel or Jesus.
Nor can you answer the question raised by Deuteronomy 28.
I doubt that you can even *follow* the argument presented in
"The Treatise on the Resurrection" found at Nag Hammadi.
And what of the Prophecy of Malachi re: the return of Elijah?
You have created a little reality all your own; but you really
haven't created it. You are merely repeating what you have
been told because you are too much of a COWARD to
question your teachers.
You can't present a logical argument for your position; nor
can you present an effective argument against what I have
written.
All you can do is present a snippet, a 'word bite', saying that
this is a foreign concept.
You have the same 'intelligence' and 'ethics' as a journalist.
Michael Cecil
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| User: "MaxBlast36" |
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| Title: Re: Why I Gave Up Jesus |
17 May 2004 11:30:07 PM |
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WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS WORLD CALLED EARTH, REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID HERE BECAUSE
JESUS WILL REMEMBER YOUR DEEDS!!!
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