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Redefining the war in Iraq: Interview with Alan Hart
By Ismail Salami, Press TV, Tehran
Alan Hart has been engaged with events in the Middle East and their
global consequences and terrifying implications - the possibility of a
Clash of Civilizations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic, and, along the way,
another great turning against the Jews - for nearly 40 years:
- As a correspondent for ITN's News At Ten and the BBC's Panorama
program (covering wars and conflicts wherever they were taking place
in the world).
- As a researcher and author. (His first book Arafat, Terrorist or
Peacemaker? was published by Sidgwick & Jackson in 1984 and
subsequently in several updated editions over a decade).
- As a participant at leadership level, working to a Security Council
background briefing, in the covert diplomacy of the search for peace.
Alan Hart thus brings to the pages of his latest book, Zionism: The
Real Enemy of the Jews, and to the debating chamber, a deep
understanding of why, really, the Countdown to Armageddon is on and
how it can be stopped.
Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews
He has been to war with the Israelis and the Arabs but the learning
experience he values most, and which he believes gave him rare
insight, came from his one-to-one private conversations over the years
with many leaders on both sides of the conflict. With, for example,
Golda Meir, Mother Israel, and Yasser Arafat, Father Palestine. The
significance of these private conversations was that they enabled Alan
to be aware of the truth of what leaders really believed and feared as
opposed to what they said in public for propaganda and myth-sustaining
purposes.
Alan has long believed that what peacemaking needs above all else is
some TRUTH-TELLING, about many things but, especially, the difference
between Zionist mythology and real history, and, the difference
between Judaism and Zionism and thus why it is perfectly possible to
be passionately anti-Zionist (anti Zionism's colonial enterprise, that
is) without being in any way, shape or form anti-Semitic.
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Overview: Tail v Dog?
The mother and father of all questions concerning US intentions for
the Middle East (of British terminology) and Iran is this: Who,
really, calls the policy shots? In the "expert" community this is
known as the "tail v dog" question. The full version of it is this: Is
it the tail of the Zionist state and its awesomely powerful lobby in
the US that wags the American dog, or does the dog wag its tail?
In my analysis, which is shared, for example, by Ilan Pappe, Israel's
leading "revisionist" (which means honest) historian, the answer is
that it's mainly the Zionist tail that wags the American dog. As I
demonstrate in my epic, two-volume book, Zionism: The Real Enemy of
The Jews, it is a fact that, with the arguable exception of Lyndon
Johnson, every American President, including the idiot in the White
House at present, tried to draw red lines that Israel should not
cross; and on most occasions Israel put two fingers up and crossed
them.
There is no mystery about why the Zionist lobby (AIPAC plus) has such
power. What passes for democracy in America is for sale to the highest
bidder, and one of the highest bidders, and certainly the best
organized and the most effective, is the Zionist lobby, now in
association with Christian evangelical fundamentalism and parts if not
all of the MIC (Military Industrial Complex). The Zionist lobby has
three main weapons of influence:
- money, apparently unlimited, to fund election campaigns (candidates
who offend Zionism can be and are destroyed - outspent);
- the organized Jewish vote in close election races (in half a dozen
critical constituencies); and
- the use of the obscenity of the Nazi Holocaust as a blackmail card
to silence criticism of Israel and suppress informed and honest
debate. (On this front the Zionist lobby is assisted by the fact that,
out of fear of offending Zionism, the mainstream media in America and
throughout the mainly Gentile Judeo-Christian or Western world is
complicit in Zionism's suppression of the truth of history. What,
really, does the media fear? Punishment by the withdrawal of
advertising revenue).
That said, it is my opinion (which is also shared by Ilan Pappe and
many well informed others of all faiths and none) that Zionism's
success to date is due only 50 percent to its own efforts and
resources. The other 50 percent is due to the divisions and impotence
of the regimes and elites of the existing Arab Order, regimes and
elites which are rightly perceived by their masses to be (more by
default than design, I say) American-and-Zionist stooges. A truth is
that the Arabs had an ace card which could have trumped all of
Zionism's cards - OIL. The 1967 war was a war of Israeli aggression,
not self-defense. If, after it, Arab leaders had been united and
prepared to play the oil card, they could have changed the course of
history. How so? Suppose Arab leaders had sent one of their number
[ones] to the White House to say to the president, in private, behind
closed doors, "If you don't get Israel back behind its borders as they
were on the eve of the war, we'll turn off the oil." What would the
president (any president) have replied?
If he had believed the Arabs were united and serious, he would have
said, "Give me a few days and I'll do it". The point being that the
Arabs would not have had to turn off the oil taps and lose revenue
because a credible threat to do so would have been enough. If the boot
had been on the other foot - if the Zionists had been the Arabs -
that's the way they would have played the game. The main difference
between Zionist and Arab leaders is that the former always knew how to
play the cards they had been dealt, the latter did not and do not.
(The one exception was King Feisal. He was intending to unite the Arab
and the wider Muslim world to play the oil card - he as good as put
Kissinger on notice to that effect - and that, almost certainly, is
why he was assassinated).
It is, of course, true that since George "Dubya" Bush came to power,
the neo-cons have been calling most of the policy shots in America.
But also true is that many of the neo-cons are hardest core Zionists.
In my analysis it was these Zionists, led by Richard Perle and Paul
Wolfowitz, who were the prime pushers for war with Iraq. And their
main concern was not oil, but creating a situation in which the
Zionist state of Greater Israel would remain forever the unchallenged
and unchallengeable superpower of the region. We know from their own
revealed documentation (their briefing paper to incoming Israeli Prime
Minister Netanyahu, for example) what their strategy was and is..... To
take out Saddam Hussein, to roll back Syria and then to go for the
kill - regime change - in Iran.
That, I believe, is the strategy now unfolding.
Is there a possibility of a US or Israeli attack on the Islamic
republic? If yes, what do you think the consequences will be?
An attack on Iran is not a "possibility" or even a probability. It is
a certainty (assuming only that Cheney and the neo-cons, Zionist and
others, remain in command and control of US policy). The only thing
that has changed in recent months is the justification the Bush regime
(more totalitarian than democratic) will give for an attack.
Because it's not completely stupid, the Bush regime has realized that
its propaganda campaign to convince public opinion in America and
throughout the Western world that Iran poses an imminent nuclear
weapons threat has failed. Put another way, many if not most Americans
and virtually all Europeans now understand that the war on Iraq was
justified by a pack of lies about Saddam Hussein's military strike
capabilities and intentions. American and European public opinion will
not buy another (and actually very similar) pack of lies to justify
war on Iran. So the Bush regime has had to change its story to sell
the need for an attack on Iran.
The new story, now being developed, is that Iran is to blame for many
of America's troubles and casualties in Iraq. In other words, and as
Seymour Hersh has noted, the Bush regime is in the process of
REDEFINING THE WAR IN IRAQ (and Afghanistan) AS A STRATEGIC BATTLE
BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND IRAN. The final justification for an
actual attack on Iran will include the line that in Iraq (and
Afghanistan) "it's the Iranians who are killing our boys." This will
enable the Bush regime to present American soldiers and so America as
the victim (of the "axis of evil" - now minus North Korea? -
controlled by Iran's leaders).
What form will an American attack on Iran take?
The most likely scenario is a massive, devastating air attack with
conventional bombs and missiles with the aim of wiping out, in two or
three days (the Americans will hope), the Revolutionary Guards and all
of Iran's defense and counter-attack capabilities (weapons,
communications, everything). It will be a massive attack because the
Americans will factor into the equation the possibility that Iran
might retaliate by causing oil exports from the region to be blocked
which, if it happened, could bring about the breakdown of the global
economy. So the American attack will be designed to prevent Iran
having the possibility of exercising this option.
A reading of published material (including leaks from people with
access to the inside circle of policy makers) invites the conclusion
that Western and Mossad agents have been inside Iran for a long time
gathering target coordinates and other related information. (Some
months ago a German report, apparently confirmed, said that Germany's
intelligence service had provided Israel with the passports of 300
dead Germans).
When is an American air attack on Iran most likely?
For two reasons I speculate that February/March and/or possibly April
is most likely. The Bush regime needs time to complete the
demonization of Iran (a process that might well include faking and
planting evidence). Also at this time the primaries for the American
congressional and presidential elections will be getting seriously
underway and the Bush regime will be seeking to wrongfoot the
Democrats by saying, "You can't oppose this attack/war because
Iranians are killing our guys in Iraq." (It's by no means impossible
that Bush regime and/or Israeli agents will stage a terrorist attack
to pin the blame on Iran as proof of Iran's "murderous activities" - a
phrase Bush used in August when speaking to the national convention of
the American Legion).
It's worth noting that the analysis of some anti-Zionist Jews
speculates about an attack on Iran in three stages:
1. Israel attacks.
2. Iran Retaliates.
3. The US comes to Israel's aid.
As it was put to me by an anti-Zionist Jewish friend: "This scenario
(similar to the 1956 Suez War Conspiracy) would get around the
reluctance of large parts of the US establishment to support an
American first strike. But helping poor little Israel would be much
more popular, especially in the Democrat-dominated Congress. From the
viewpoint of US neo-imperialists, this is precisely what Israel is
for."
Why "especially in the Democratic-dominated Congress"? Unlike the
Republican Party, the Democratic Party could almost not exist without
Zionist lobby organized funding. An interesting observation on this
was made some months ago by an eminent Jewish American, Norman
Birnbaum who is professor emeritus at Georgetown University Law
School. In an article published on the Open Democracy web site, he
wrote: "The Democratic Party cannot hope to develop an alternative
American foreign policy while retaining its present financial and
intellectual dependence on the Israel lobby." (I disagree with
Birnbaum on one point. It's not an Israel lobby, it's a Likud lobby. A
statement to that effect was made to me in private conversation by
Shimon Peres in 1980, when he was the leader of the Labor Party and
hoping to become Israel's next prime minister. Peres knew that a
second term in office for Prime Minister Begin would see the creation
of settlement facts on the ground in the occupied West Bank on a scale
which would prevent any future Israeli government from withdrawing for
peace out of fear of provoking a Jewish civil war).
I do not subscribe to the Jewish anti-Zionist 1,2,3 war scenario
because I think the Bush regime wants what it believes will be the
glory of an America first strike; and as I have indicated above, I
think the Bush regime also believes that it will be able to get away
with it, at least so far as American public opinion is concerned, by
successfully selling the story that Iran is behind most of America's
troubles and casualties in Iraq
What now has to be factored in is the significance of a great drama
that has been taking place behind closed doors in Washington DC. News
of the drama was broken on 27/28 September on the web site of the
Wayne Madsen Report. Wayne is one of the best informed and most
respected investigative journalists in America. The following are the
first two paragraphs of his four-page, detailed report:
WMR has learned from US and foreign intelligence sources that the B-52
transporting six stealth AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles, each armed
with a W-80-1 nuclear warhead, on August 30, were destined for the
Middle East via Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.
However, elements of the Air Force, supported by US intelligence
personnel, successfully revealed the ultimate destination of the
nuclear weapons and the mission was aborted due to internal opposition
within the Air Force and US Intelligence Community.
My comments:
* The intended destination of the six nuclear missiles - the very
latest technology which Israel does not yet possess - could only have
been Israel.
* Nuclear weapons cannot be moved without the authorization of the
President. Implication? Either Bush knew and approved - possibly
putting his signature on a piece of paper put in front of him by
Cheney without knowing what he was signing; or Cheney had the
necessary authority delegated to him by Bush. (Bush is, apparently, a
very lazy man as well as a stupid man).
Why did Cheney and the neo-cons want Israel to have these particular
nuclear missiles? My speculation is that Israel is concerned that an
American air attack might not be as effective as they would like it to
be..... That the Israelis have expressed their concern to Cheney..... And
that in response Cheney said to the Israelis, in effect: "If we screw
up and don't do a complete job, you can use these missiles."
A related matter..... What was the Israeli Air Force's mission when, on
6 September, it attacked a target in Syria? Latest information,
(including that from the web site of the magazine Aviation Week &
Space Technology), suggests to me that Israeli F15 and F16 jets were
testing the effectiveness of the latest American (cutting edge)
technology for blinding enemy radar. It, the "Suter airborne network
attack system", obviously works well because it allowed the Israeli
planes to enter and operate in Syrian airspace without being detected
by Syria's Russian-supplied state-of-the-art radar systems. (I note
reports saying that Iran is worried because it has the same Russian-
supplied defense system. Presumably the Russians are now working flat
out against the clock to come up with a counter measure).
What are the most likely consequences of an American or Israeli attack
on Iran?
Much will depend on Iran's response (if it is able to respond after an
American "shock and awe" attack). In this interview I'm not going to
speculate about Iran's possible responses, but I will say this much.....
If it goes badly wrong for the Americans, I would not rule out the
possibility that Israel (and possibly America) will launch nuclear
strikes (drop nuclear bombs) on Iran.
In Volume Two of my book I quote Ezer Weizman when he was Israel's
defense minister telling me in private that Sharon was mad enough to
nuke the entire Arab world!
And in the Prologue to Volume One I quote Golda Meir telling me, in an
on-the-record interview for the BBC's Panorama program when she was
prime minister, that if ever Israel was in danger of being defeated on
the battlefield, it would be prepared to take the region and the whole
world down with it!
The kind of madness indicated above is alive and well in Israel and
Washington DC. (And possibly Paris under its new management).
At a minimum an attack on Iran will set the stage for escalating and
unending conflict, which could go all the way to World War III,
destroying the global economy as events unfold.
Arab and Muslim masses everywhere will be driven to new depths of
anger but in the short term it is likely that their repressive regimes
will keep the lid on violent protest. But for the longer term..... an
attack on Iran will serve as the best possible recruiting sergeant for
violent Islamic fundamentalism [extremism] and bring forward the day
when the corrupt and impotent regimes of the existing Arab order will
be toppled by people power. (The first real Arab revolution).
Western and Arab governments are hoping that an attack on Iran would
cause Iranians to rise up and overthrow "the Islamic regime". In
theory, and because there is a measure of discontent in Iran with the
ways things are, that might be a possibility; but I think it much more
likely that an attack would have completely the opposite effect -
unite all Iranians behind their "regime".
Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews
What do you think of the US-Zionist alliance?
I think I've said enough on this above. The only point I wish to add
is that American administration support for the Zionist state [regime]
of Israel right or wrong is not in America's own best interests. In
fact it is the most serious threat to those interests. The only
hopeful sign is that those of us of all faiths and none who are making
this point in our books and on public platforms are beginning to make
an impression on the ignorance of Western public opinion.
How far do you think Zionism has tarnished the image of Judaism in the
world?
The major statement I make on the subject of Zionism and Judaism is
that Zionism is destroying Judaism.
As stated on the back jacket of Volume One, my book has two central
themes. "One is how the modern state of Israel, the child of Zionism,
became its own worst enemy and a threat not only to the peace of the
region and the world, but also to the best interests of Jews
everywhere and the moral integrity of Judaism itself. The other main
and related theme is why, really, the whole Arab and wider Muslim
world is an explosion of frustration and despair waiting for its time
to happen."
THE KEY to understanding why there is conflict in and over Palestine,
why a resolution of it has remained beyond the reach of politics and
diplomacy and who must do what and why for justice and peace is
knowledge of the difference between Judaism and Zionism.
Zionism's ability to suppress informed and honest debate is due,
mainly, to its success in making the Judeo-Christian or Western world
believe that Judaism and Zionism are one and the same thing. This
enables Zionism to assert that criticism of the Zionist state of
Israel is a manifestation of classical anti-Semitism (prejudice
against and even hatred of Jews just because they are Jews). The truth
is that Judaism and Zionism are total opposites.
JUDAISM is the religion of Jews (not "the Jews" because not all Jews
are religious), and, like Islam and Christianity, Judaism has at its
core a set of ethical principles and moral values.
ZIONISM is a secular, colonialist ideology which makes a mockery of,
and has contempt for, the ethical principles and moral values of
Judaism. The evidence which supports this statement begins with the
fact that Israel was created mainly by Zionist terrorism and ethnic
cleansing.
For those who might wish to have a much deeper understanding of the
difference between Zionism and Judaism, I recommend a particular book
- A Threat From Within, A CENTURY OF JEWISH OPPOSITION TO ZIONISM. Its
author is a Jewish Canadian, Yakov Rabkin, who is Professor of History
at the University of Montreal. When Yakov was in London, I asked him a
very explicit question: "Is it reasonable to say that the Jews of the
world now have a choice to make - either to reaffirm their commitment
to Judaism and renounce Zionism, or to reaffirm or affirm their
commitment to Zionism and renounce Judaism?" He replied with one word,
"YES!"
The truth is not only that Zionism and Judaism are total opposites,
but that the return of Jews to the land of biblical Israel by the
efforts of man (one possible but woefully inadequate definition of
Zionism) was PROSCRIBED by Judaism.... Also a fact, unknown to this day
to almost all Gentiles and Jews, is that many if not most of the Jews
who went to Palestine in answer to Zionism's call had no biological
connection to the ancient Hebrews. The incoming Zionist Jews were
mainly foreign nationals of many lands, descended from those who
became Jewish by conversion to Judaism centuries after the fall of the
ancient Jewish kingdom of Israel and what is called the "dispersal"
into "oblivion" of its people. The notion that there are two entire
peoples with an equally valid claim to the same land is an historical
nonsense. The relatively few Jews with a valid claim were, are, the
descendants of those who stayed in Palestine through everything. They
numbered only a few thousand at the time of Zionism's birth; they
regarded themselves as Palestinians; and they were fiercely opposed to
Zionism's colonial enterprise - because they rightly feared that it
would make them as well as the incoming, alien Zionist Jews enemies of
the Arabs among whom they had lived in peace and security.
Arabs and other Muslims have always known the difference between
Judaism and Zionism. Throughout much of their history, Arabs and other
Muslims were the best protectors of Jews - as Iran in terms of its own
Jewish community still is today! It was Zionism's colonial enterprise
that poisoned the relationship, but not to the point at which Arabs
and other Muslims blame all Jews for Zionism's crimes. (As President
Ahmadinejad has said, and I often say myself, the extermination of
Jews in Europe was a European crime for which, in effect, the Arabs
were punished).
Why is it so important for the citizens of the nations of the Judeo-
Christian or Western world to be informed of the difference between
Judaism and Zionism? Knowledge of the difference is the explanation of
(a) why it is perfectly possible to be passionately anti-Zionist
(opposed to Zionism's colonial enterprise) without being in any way,
shape or form anti-Semitic; and (b) why it is wrong to blame all Jews
for the crimes of the few.
The significance of (b) above is in the following. Though still
suppressed, classical anti-Semitism is on the rise throughout the
Judeo-Christian world in which most Jews live. It is happening in
response to Israel's arrogance of power and the correct perception of
Israel as the oppressor. The more it becomes apparent that Israel is
the obstacle to peace on any terms most Palestinians and other Arabs
and Muslims could accept, the more this antipathy to all Jews will
grow, with the real danger that it will break out, become
unsuppressed, and manifest itself as violent anti-Semitism. It's my
Gentile view, which I know is shared in private by some eminent Jews,
that Holocaust II (shorthand for another great turning against Jews)
WILL happen at a foreseeable point in the future unless the Judeo-
Christian world is made aware of the difference between Judaism and
Zionism. It's also my view that if the monster of classical anti-
Semitism does go on the rampage again, it might well start its journey
in America.
What is your opinion about the recent Zionist move to cut off fuel
supplies to Gaza?
The Zionist state's collective punishment of the people of Gaza is a
war crime. (What else would one expect of a criminal state which is
above and beyond international law?)
Zionism is not remotely interested, and never has been, in peace on
any terms the Palestinians and the vast majority of Arabs and other
Muslims everywhere could accept. Zionism's philosophy of doom is "them
or us".
Zionism's end-game strategy for a solution to the Palestine problem
now leaves nothing to the imagination. Zionism's military and
political leaders in Israel (and their lobbyists in America) believe
that by means of brute force and reducing them to abject poverty, they
can break the will of the Palestinians to continue the struggle for
their rights.... The assumption being that, at a point, and out of total
despair, the Palestinians will be prepared to accept crumbs from
Zionism's table in the shape of two or three Bantustans, or, better
still, will abandon their homeland and seek a new life in other
countries. The question that's almost too awful to think about is
something like this: What will the Zionists do when it becomes
apparent even to them that they can't destroy Palestinian nationalism
with bombs and bullets and brutal repressive measures of all kinds?
My guess (Ilan Pappe agrees with me) is that they, the Zionists, will
go for a final round of ethnic cleansing - to drive the Palestinians
into Jordan and beyond. That, I fear, will be Zionism's final solution
to the Palestine problem. If that happens, the West Bank will be
turned red with blood, mostly Palestinian blood. Honest reporters will
describe it as a Zionist holocaust.
Do you think the US government is using the terrorist activities in
the world in order to create fear of Islam? And do you think there is
a clash of religions in the world?
Yes. The Bush regime is playing the fear card to enable it to bring in
legislation, including authoritarian powers for the president, which
is eroding the democratic freedoms and human rights of the American
people. (There are some American commentators, including former
members of the Establishment, who believe that what we are witnessing
in the US is the emergence of new fascism).
There is a respectable case for saying that the US (I mean its
political, financial and military Establishment) needs an enemy (as
Zionism does), and that having lost the "evil empire" of the Soviet
Union, Islam is the necessary new enemy. The argument in support of
this contention can be simply stated. The Military Industrial Complex
is the single biggest creator of wealth and jobs, but it depends for
much of its funding for research and development and production on
government funding - the taxes citizens pay. Without an enemy and a
perceived threat, government would not be able to justify its vastly
disproportionate spending of public money on the war machine.
A question I often ask on public speaking platforms is this: Given
that President Bush is the best recruiting sergeant for violent
Islamic fundamentalism, why is it so? Is it (a) because he is ignorant
of history and doesn't know what he is doing, and is, in a word,
stupid; or is it (b) because he, or those who pull his strings, want a
Clash of Civilizations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic?
In private conversation I have put this question to 20 real experts of
all faiths and none. Almost all of them, 18, said the answer was (a)
and (b). My own view is that the mad men in America might not want a
Clash of Civilizations but do not care if it happens as a consequence
of imposing their will on the nations of the Arab and wider Muslim
world.
At the present time I believe we are on course for a Clash of
Civilizations.
How well can the Muslims be integrated into the European community
despite the Western Islamophobia?
If the question means is there a safe and secure future for Muslims
who have become (or want to become) citizens of the European nations,
my answer has to be - I'm not sure. If American-led Western policy
does not change - i.e. if it continues to fuel violent Islamic
fundamentalism - Islamophobia will most likely turn violent, and
Muslims in the European nations (and America) will be in peril.
Regarding Turkey's probable integration into the formal institution of
the European Union, I can see only problems ahead - i.e. as a
consequence of that integration. Despite current French and other
objections, Turkey probably will be accepted (with America's blessing)
as a full member because it is, behind the democratic window dressing,
a military dictatorship. Turkey will thus be viewed by European
governments (and the one in Washington DC) as not only the acceptable
face of Islam but also as a wall or fortress - a strategic asset in
the confrontation with "militant Islam". Put another way, Turkey would
be required more than ever to do the West's bidding, and that, surely,
would put its government and military on a collusion course with most
of its own people....?
IN CONCLUSION I repeat..... My view that an attack on Iran is a
certainty not a possibility or a probability assumes that Cheney and
his neo-cons, including the Zionists, retain their ability to call the
policy shots. If President Bush listens to others, it might not
happen.
What, if anything, Iran could do to prevent an attack is a very good
question.
.... Payvand News - 10/9/07 ...
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