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User: "Michael Cecil 28SW2"
Date: 19 Apr 2004 05:58:50 PM
Object: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You
The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.
See:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html
It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.
But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...
There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.
There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.
There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?
And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.
Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.
For more information, see my web page at:
http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com
Michael Cecil
.

User: "TKelly"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 19 Apr 2004 09:46:32 PM
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net>...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

I am having difficulty understanding how one point relates to the
others can assist here?

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil

.
User: "Michael Cecil 28SW2"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 03:03:34 PM
TKelly wrote:

"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net>...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.


I am having difficulty understanding how one point relates to the
others can assist here?

Christian Fundamentalists were PLEASURED by watching "The Passion
of the Christ". And they are deceiving themselves if they deny it.
Behind all of their 'crocodile tears' was the belief that this was a
*necessary* evil in order that they could get their sorry asses into
heaven. Any 'sorrow' that they experienced was merely pretense
because they are going to heaven--they think--because of this brut-
ality.
Subtract this delusion of 'vicarious atonement' and watching a graphic
representation of someone 'getting you into heaven', and all you have
left is people watching someone being TORTURED to death for teach-
ing the Truth about the 'resurrection' as a Doctrine of Rebirth.
Michael Cecil




For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil

.


User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 19 Apr 2004 10:23:23 PM
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net>...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

Well you are reporting it and that is good enough. ;)


See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil

.
User: "Michael Cecil 28SW2"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 03:08:37 PM
Michael Johnathan McDonald wrote:

"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net>...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.


Well you are reporting it and that is good enough. ;)

I fail to see anything humorous in the censorship of Truth.
People are being BUTCHERED almost on a daily basis in the Middle
East because of the LIES of the religious officials about the 'resur-
rection'. This is the 'genetic' origin of the conflict between Jews, Chris-
tians and Muslims. And the media covers their ***** because of greed
and the lust for power and simple cowardice.
If you think it is sufficient merely to be mentioned here on these
newsgroups, you are giving your blessing to endless bloodshed
into the forseeable future.
Are you a ***** journalist, by the way?
Michael Cecil



See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil

.
User: "blacknblue"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 10:28:26 PM
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<408582B5.49BBE06D@earthlink.net>...

Michael Johnathan McDonald wrote:

"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net>...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.


Well you are reporting it and that is good enough. ;)


I fail to see anything humorous in the censorship of Truth.

People are being BUTCHERED almost on a daily basis in the Middle
East because of the LIES of the religious officials about the 'resur-
rection'.

so you are saying that the lies of the ressurection is the worlds main
problem? What about corporate tyrrants and sweatshops? BTW most of
my friends in the army and in Iraq are atheists.

This is the 'genetic' origin of the conflict between Jews, Chris-
tians and Muslims. And the media covers their ***** because of greed
and the lust for power and simple cowardice.

hmmm...ressurection doctrine is the reason for violence between
peoples of different faiths? I think it is more about power, control,
and riches(greedy people without conscience) that is the worlds
problem.
You know Hitler and Himmler believed in reincarnation...do you side
with them?

If you think it is sufficient merely to be mentioned here on these
newsgroups, you are giving your blessing to endless bloodshed
into the forseeable future.


Are you a ***** journalist, by the way?

why the dumb remark?

Michael Cecil



See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil

.
User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 21 Apr 2004 01:27:38 PM
And by the way...I am not intelligent...it is the Torah..burning in
me. The
Torah is not a college degree... What you put in....becomes who you
are.
It is what Yeshua was talking about.... Bread, wine....water....
Torah on the heart.
People will vouch...
My thoughts have so many holes that they look like Swiss cheese.
If you get to know me...you will see...my thoughts come out from time
to
time...and I can be every bit as jerky as moshe...
crewfan_88@yahoo.com (blacknblue) wrote in message news:<b7362ea0.0404201928.1dc2937@posting.google.com>...

"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<408582B5.49BBE06D@earthlink.net>...

Michael Johnathan McDonald wrote:

"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net>...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.


Well you are reporting it and that is good enough. ;)


I fail to see anything humorous in the censorship of Truth.

People are being BUTCHERED almost on a daily basis in the Middle
East because of the LIES of the religious officials about the 'resur-
rection'.


so you are saying that the lies of the ressurection is the worlds main
problem? What about corporate tyrrants and sweatshops? BTW most of
my friends in the army and in Iraq are atheists.

This is the 'genetic' origin of the conflict between Jews, Chris-
tians and Muslims. And the media covers their ***** because of greed
and the lust for power and simple cowardice.


hmmm...ressurection doctrine is the reason for violence between
peoples of different faiths? I think it is more about power, control,
and riches(greedy people without conscience) that is the worlds
problem.

You know Hitler and Himmler believed in reincarnation...do you side
with them?

If you think it is sufficient merely to be mentioned here on these
newsgroups, you are giving your blessing to endless bloodshed
into the forseeable future.


Are you a ***** journalist, by the way?


why the dumb remark?

Michael Cecil



See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil

.
User: "blacknblue"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 21 Apr 2004 06:30:54 PM
(Mary Hogan) wrote in message news:<53d4bd09.0404211027.7fdeb676@posting.google.com>...

And by the way...I am not intelligent...it is the Torah..burning in
me. The
Torah is not a college degree... What you put in....becomes who you
are.
It is what Yeshua was talking about.... Bread, wine....water....
Torah on the heart.

People will vouch...
My thoughts have so many holes that they look like Swiss cheese.

If you get to know me...you will see...my thoughts come out from time
to
time...and I can be every bit as jerky as moshe...

May I ask...what the hell are you talking about? Stop smoking the
crack and try some antipsychotics!
.





User: "cesar"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 19 Apr 2004 08:46:25 PM
I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe you have it
wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was reincarnation, the
recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent told Eve,
"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over and over again
with each reincarnation.
What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand and we will
never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of birth-death-reincarnation.
cesar
"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil

.
User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 01:09:12 PM
Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this
the judgment:
In part...in part...in part...
"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe you have it
wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was reincarnation, the
recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent told Eve,
"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over and over again
with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand and we will
never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of birth-death-reincarnation.

cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil



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User: "cesar"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 06:54:54 PM
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this
the judgment:

Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of references of
reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the Baptist was
thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.
cesar



In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe you have it
wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was reincarnation, the
recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent told Eve,
"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over and over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand and we will
never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of birth-death-reincarnation.

cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that is,
as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep these
two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other nonsense
fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil







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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 06:58:31 PM
nope
"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of references of
reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe you have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was reincarnation, the
recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent told Eve,
"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over and over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand and we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who has
memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause a
super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the 'con-
ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that

is,

as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and does
not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and Mohammed
is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The media
has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep

these

two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'.

There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian sense;
or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other

nonsense

fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars might
be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and evangelists?

And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil







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User: "cesar"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 07:11:29 PM
Need I spell it out for you?
REV 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years
were finished.
cesar
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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nope

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of references of
reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe you have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was reincarnation,

the

recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent told

Eve,

"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over and over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand and we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who

has

memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War II.

See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to cause

a

super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the

'con-

ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long, that

is,

as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and

does

not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive amounts
of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the Doctrine
of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and

Mohammed

is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which is
present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost *screams*
from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The

media

has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep

these

two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if it
were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and

'hell'.


There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian

sense;

or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other

nonsense

fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons of
greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars

might

be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and

evangelists?


And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that have
been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil







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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 08:22:19 PM
I think you may be confusing resurrection with reincarnation.... Yes...I
believe in resurrection!!!
This scripture you quote is about resurrection.
God Bless
"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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Need I spell it out for you?

REV 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand

years

were finished.

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085b91f$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

nope

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but

after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of references

of

reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the

Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message

news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe you

have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was reincarnation,

the

recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent told

Eve,

"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over and

over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand and

we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy who

has

memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War

II.


See:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html

It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to

cause

a

super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the

'con-

ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long,

that

is,

as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information and

does

not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of Jesus.

But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection between
information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive

amounts

of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the

Doctrine

of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and

Mohammed

is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which

is

present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost

*screams*

from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The

media

has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to keep

these

two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if

it

were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of Rebirth...

There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and

'hell'.


There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian

sense;

or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other

nonsense

fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for reasons

of

greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars

might

be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and

evangelists?


And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that

have

been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would be
perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil







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User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 21 Apr 2004 06:41:06 AM
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085ccc4_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

I think you may be confusing resurrection with reincarnation.... Yes...I
believe in resurrection!!!
This scripture you quote is about resurrection.
God Bless

I don't know how you can tell exactly which obscurity in revelation
corresponds with which inobscurity. Most of what John says is figurative,
so, one could quite easily side with cesar's idea, as opposed to your
literal one.
- cuan
.

User: "cesar"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 09:01:05 PM
They're two different things. Reincarnation is the soul going back into
another human body in the earth at another time. Resurrection is the
reconstitution of the soul into an incorruptible body in the Kingdom of
Heaven. That is what the message of Jesus was when he said the Kingdom of
God was at hand. In the verse from Revelation I quoted, all the people who
did not have the mark of the beast nor worshipped its image and died for it
were resurrected in heaven. Those who had the mark of the beast did not
live again (get reincarnated) for a thousand years (terrestrial time but in
celestial time, 1,000 years on earth is only one day in heaven, the Day of
the Lord.)
cesar
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085ccc4_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

I think you may be confusing resurrection with reincarnation.... Yes...I
believe in resurrection!!!


This scripture you quote is about resurrection.

God Bless


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:R_ihc.16781$W1b1.9323@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

Need I spell it out for you?

REV 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand

years

were finished.

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085b91f$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

nope

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but

after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of

references

of

reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the

Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message

news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe you

have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was

reincarnation,

the

recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent

told

Eve,

"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over and

over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand and

we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy

who

has

memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World War

II.


See:


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html


It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to

cause

a

super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt the

'con-

ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long,

that

is,

as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information

and

does

not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of

Jesus.


But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection

between

information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive

amounts

of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the

Doctrine

of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and

Mohammed

is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence which

is

present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost

*screams*

from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example. The

media

has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to

keep

these

two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For, if

it

were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of

Rebirth...


There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and

'hell'.


There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the Christian

sense;

or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other

nonsense

fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for

reasons

of

greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of dollars

might

be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and

evangelists?


And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that

have

been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a human
being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ" would

be

perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil







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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 09:19:59 PM
I know this...
But the rest of the dead lived not again for a 1000 years...doesn't mean
that they died Willie Loman and came back Joe Dimaggio
They died Willie Loman...came back Willie Loman
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They're two different things. Reincarnation is the soul going back into
another human body in the earth at another time. Resurrection is the
reconstitution of the soul into an incorruptible body in the Kingdom of
Heaven. That is what the message of Jesus was when he said the Kingdom of
God was at hand. In the verse from Revelation I quoted, all the people

who

did not have the mark of the beast nor worshipped its image and died for

it

were resurrected in heaven. Those who had the mark of the beast did not
live again (get reincarnated) for a thousand years (terrestrial time but

in

celestial time, 1,000 years on earth is only one day in heaven, the Day of
the Lord.)

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085ccc4_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

I think you may be confusing resurrection with reincarnation....

Yes...I

believe in resurrection!!!


This scripture you quote is about resurrection.

God Bless


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:R_ihc.16781$W1b1.9323@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

Need I spell it out for you?
GSN3860


were finished.

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085b91f$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

nope

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but

after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of

references

of

reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the

Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message

news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe

you

have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was

reincarnation,

the

recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent

told

Eve,

"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over

and

over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand

and

we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of

Heaven.


Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy

who

has

memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World

War

II.


See:


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html


It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to

cause

a

super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt

the

'con-

ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long,

that

is,

as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information

and

does

not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of

Jesus.


But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection

between

information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive

amounts

of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the

Doctrine

of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and

Mohammed

is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence

which

is

present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost

*screams*

from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example.

The

media

has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to

keep

these

two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For,

if

it

were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of

Rebirth...


There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and

'hell'.


There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the

Christian

sense;

or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other

nonsense

fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for

reasons

of

greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of

dollars

might

be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and

evangelists?


And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that

have

been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a

human

being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ"

would

be

perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 09:27:39 PM
In order to justify your comment you would have to negate...Hebrew 9:27. And
as it is appointed unto men once to die
"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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They're two different things. Reincarnation is the soul going back into
another human body in the earth at another time. Resurrection is the
reconstitution of the soul into an incorruptible body in the Kingdom of
Heaven. That is what the message of Jesus was when he said the Kingdom of
God was at hand. In the verse from Revelation I quoted, all the people

who

did not have the mark of the beast nor worshipped its image and died for

it

were resurrected in heaven. Those who had the mark of the beast did not
live again (get reincarnated) for a thousand years (terrestrial time but

in

celestial time, 1,000 years on earth is only one day in heaven, the Day of
the Lord.)

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085ccc4_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

I think you may be confusing resurrection with reincarnation....

Yes...I

believe in resurrection!!!


This scripture you quote is about resurrection.

God Bless


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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Need I spell it out for you?

REV 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand

years

were finished.

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085b91f$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

nope

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but

after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of

references

of

reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the

Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message

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I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe

you

have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was

reincarnation,

the

recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent

told

Eve,

"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over

and

over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand

and

we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of

Heaven.


Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American boy

who

has

memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World

War

II.


See:


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html


It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough to

cause

a

super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt

the

'con-

ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so long,

that

is,

as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such information

and

does

not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of

Jesus.


But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection

between

information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive

amounts

of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the

Doctrine

of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and

Mohammed

is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence

which

is

present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost

*screams*

from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example.

The

media

has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to

keep

these

two subjects as far away as the East is from the West. For,

if

it

were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of

Rebirth...


There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven' and

'hell'.


There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the

Christian

sense;

or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the other

nonsense

fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for

reasons

of

greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of

dollars

might

be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and

evangelists?


And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars that

have

been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a

human

being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ"

would

be

perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil







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User: "cesar"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 20 Apr 2004 09:43:32 PM
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085dc14_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

In order to justify your comment you would have to negate...Hebrew 9:27.

And

as it is appointed unto men once to die

Yes, when you die, there is a life review. You are then sent back to
perfect your soul and born again as a baby. This happens over and over
again. The soul doesn't die. The body does. So the soul lives again in
another body. In Genesis it is written that the Lord God breathed the
breath of life into man and man became a living soul. The soul is
"injected" into man and that is what sets mankind apart from animals.
cesar


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:BBkhc.18926$W1b1.10221@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


They're two different things. Reincarnation is the soul going back into
another human body in the earth at another time. Resurrection is the
reconstitution of the soul into an incorruptible body in the Kingdom of
Heaven. That is what the message of Jesus was when he said the Kingdom

of

God was at hand. In the verse from Revelation I quoted, all the people

who

did not have the mark of the beast nor worshipped its image and died for

it

were resurrected in heaven. Those who had the mark of the beast did not
live again (get reincarnated) for a thousand years (terrestrial time but

in

celestial time, 1,000 years on earth is only one day in heaven, the Day

of

the Lord.)

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085ccc4_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

I think you may be confusing resurrection with reincarnation....

Yes...I

believe in resurrection!!!


This scripture you quote is about resurrection.

God Bless


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:R_ihc.16781$W1b1.9323@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

Need I spell it out for you?

REV 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the

thousand

years

were finished.

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085b91f$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

nope

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:iLihc.16613$W1b1.8399@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die,

but

after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of

references

of

reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John the

Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message

news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I believe

you

have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was

reincarnation,

the

recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the Serpent

told

Eve,

"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died over

and

over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at Hand

and

we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of

Heaven.


Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in

message

news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American

boy

who

has

memories of having been shot down as a pilot during World

War

II.


See:


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_189477.html


It is all very interesting; maybe even interesting enough

to

cause

a

super-fascist Christian Fundamentalist to begin to doubt

the

'con-

ventional wisdom' about the Teaching of Jesus--just so

long,

that

is,

as he or she has not been *paid* to ignore such

information

and

does

not making a living by selling LIES about the Teaching of

Jesus.


But the media is VERY careful NOT to draw any connection

between

information suggestive of 'reincarnation' and the massive

amounts

of evidence which can be compiled to demonstrate that the

Doctrine

of the 'resurrection' taught by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jesus and

Mohammed

is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of Rebirth; evidence

which

is

present, if cryptic, in the Dead Sea Scrolls; but almost

*screams*

from the Codices found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, for example.

The

media

has been paid quite handsomely by Christo-Fascism, Inc. to

keep

these

two subjects as far away as the East is from the West.

For,

if

it

were to be made clear that Jesus taught a Doctrine of

Rebirth...


There would be no such thing as 'vicarious atonement'.

There would be no such thing as a metaphysical 'heaven'

and

'hell'.


There would be no such thing as 'salvation', in the

Christian

sense;

or the 'Rapture', or the 'Second Coming' or any of the

other

nonsense

fabricated by Paul and other proto-Nazi theologians for

reasons

of

greed and the lust for power. And how many MILLIONS of

dollars

might

be lost by the religious SLUTS known as theologians and

evangelists?


And, even more to the point, the half a BILLION dollars

that

have

been spent so far watching a graphic representation of a

human

being tortured to death would not in any way be edifying.

Taking pleasure in watching "The Passion of the Christ"

would

be

perceived as perverse and demonic.

For more information, see my web page at:

http://www.deadseanaghammadiresearch.com

Michael Cecil







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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: 'Reincarnation' and What the Media Is Not Telling You 21 Apr 2004 09:43:08 AM
wrong...you are wasting your life
"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085dc14_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

In order to justify your comment you would have to negate...Hebrew 9:27.

And

as it is appointed unto men once to die


Yes, when you die, there is a life review. You are then sent back to
perfect your soul and born again as a baby. This happens over and over
again. The soul doesn't die. The body does. So the soul lives again in
another body. In Genesis it is written that the Lord God breathed the
breath of life into man and man became a living soul. The soul is
"injected" into man and that is what sets mankind apart from animals.

cesar




"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:BBkhc.18926$W1b1.10221@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


They're two different things. Reincarnation is the soul going back

into

another human body in the earth at another time. Resurrection is the
reconstitution of the soul into an incorruptible body in the Kingdom

of

Heaven. That is what the message of Jesus was when he said the

Kingdom

of

God was at hand. In the verse from Revelation I quoted, all the

people

who

did not have the mark of the beast nor worshipped its image and died

for

it

were resurrected in heaven. Those who had the mark of the beast did

not

live again (get reincarnated) for a thousand years (terrestrial time

but

in

celestial time, 1,000 years on earth is only one day in heaven, the

Day

of

the Lord.)

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085ccc4_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

I think you may be confusing resurrection with reincarnation....

Yes...I

believe in resurrection!!!


This scripture you quote is about resurrection.

God Bless


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:R_ihc.16781$W1b1.9323@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

Need I spell it out for you?

REV 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the

thousand

years

were finished.

cesar


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:4085b91f$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

nope

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message

news:iLihc.16613$W1b1.8399@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:40856757$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

Hebrew 9: 27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die,

but

after

this

the judgment:


Yes, but not the LAST judgment. Even the bible is full of

references

of

reincarnation as if it was common knowledge. To wit: John

the

Baptist

was

thought to be the return of Elijah by the people at the time.

cesar




In part...in part...in part...


"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message


news:Rh%gc.143894$2oI1.469@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


I have thoroughly studied the Nag Hammadi texts. I

believe

you

have

it

wrong. The plan of the Elohims, the demiurges was

reincarnation,

the

recycling of souls into new bodies. Hence, what the

Serpent

told

Eve,

"Surely you will not die". The truth is we have died

over

and

over

again

with each reincarnation.

What Jesus taught was that the Kingdom of Heaven was at

Hand

and

we

will

never die ever again once Resurrected in the Kingdom of

Heaven.


Resurrection will break the vicious cycle of

birth-death-reincarnation.


cesar



"Michael Cecil (28SW2)" <mjtc@earthlink.net> wrote in

message

news:4084590B.1B67A717@earthlink.net...

The media is now reporting the story of a young American

boy

who

has

memories of having been shot down as a pilot during

World

War

II.


See:


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dail