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"Arnold Holbrook" |
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27 Nov 2003 08:00:35 PM |
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Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
I believe that as long as the US continues to vie for hegemony in the
Caucasus, and continues to stand in Taiwan's corner when it speaks out
against China, even including it in it global missle defense schemes,
both countries will end up strengthening their ties.
North Korea understand that as long as China sees the US as a serious
threat, and not a potential trade partner, it will look at NK with the
old Cold War mentality as a buffer against US aggression and not a
dangerous nuissance that could impact it's efforts toward "limited"
globalization. The the single biggest issue that can turn the Us into
a big demon over night is US support for Taiwan independence.
Therefore NK will try to influence affairs in Taiwan in all ways thay
can maximize the potential for a confrontation between the two nations
over this issue.
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| User: "Daniel Robinson" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
27 Nov 2003 08:49:49 PM |
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"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311271800.5ab14cf3@posting.google.com...
I believe that as long as the US continues to vie for hegemony in the
Caucasus, and continues to stand in Taiwan's corner when it speaks out
against China, even including it in it global missle defense schemes,
both countries will end up strengthening their ties.
North Korea understand that as long as China sees the US as a serious
threat, and not a potential trade partner, it will look at NK with the
old Cold War mentality as a buffer against US aggression and not a
dangerous nuissance that could impact it's efforts toward "limited"
globalization. The the single biggest issue that can turn the Us into
a big demon over night is US support for Taiwan independence.
Therefore NK will try to influence affairs in Taiwan in all ways thay
can maximize the potential for a confrontation between the two nations
over this issue.
Your making the assumption that North Korea wants to see a war. I can
almost grantee that North Korea has little interest in anything but
political survival of the ragime, and having China and the US go to war
would not work in its favour.
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| User: "Arnold Holbrook" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
28 Nov 2003 09:08:52 AM |
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"Daniel Robinson" <anzactz@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MJyxb.10193$ws.903964@news02.tsnz.net>...
"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311271800.5ab14cf3@posting.google.com...
I believe that as long as the US continues to vie for hegemony in the
Caucasus, and continues to stand in Taiwan's corner when it speaks out
against China, even including it in it global missle defense schemes,
both countries will end up strengthening their ties.
North Korea understand that as long as China sees the US as a serious
threat, and not a potential trade partner, it will look at NK with the
old Cold War mentality as a buffer against US aggression and not a
dangerous nuissance that could impact it's efforts toward "limited"
globalization. The the single biggest issue that can turn the Us into
a big demon over night is US support for Taiwan independence.
Therefore NK will try to influence affairs in Taiwan in all ways thay
can maximize the potential for a confrontation between the two nations
over this issue.
Your making the assumption that North Korea wants to see a war. I can
almost grantee that North Korea has little interest in anything but
political survival of the ragime, and having China and the US go to war
would not work in its favour.
Nor would US and Chinese cooperation against NK's interests, which is
to build a nuclear deterrent against what they see as an inevitable
attack from the US (which I also think will happen should Bush get
re-elected). Only way to do this is by finding a way to keep the US
and China at odds with each other. One way is by manipulating the
Taiwan issue.
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| User: "Daniel Robinson" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
29 Nov 2003 07:38:05 PM |
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"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311280708.6e9c2f72@posting.google.com...
"Daniel Robinson" <anzactz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<MJyxb.10193$ws.903964@news02.tsnz.net>...
"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311271800.5ab14cf3@posting.google.com...
I believe that as long as the US continues to vie for hegemony in the
Caucasus, and continues to stand in Taiwan's corner when it speaks out
against China, even including it in it global missle defense schemes,
both countries will end up strengthening their ties.
North Korea understand that as long as China sees the US as a serious
threat, and not a potential trade partner, it will look at NK with the
old Cold War mentality as a buffer against US aggression and not a
dangerous nuissance that could impact it's efforts toward "limited"
globalization. The the single biggest issue that can turn the Us into
a big demon over night is US support for Taiwan independence.
Therefore NK will try to influence affairs in Taiwan in all ways thay
can maximize the potential for a confrontation between the two nations
over this issue.
Your making the assumption that North Korea wants to see a war. I can
almost grantee that North Korea has little interest in anything but
political survival of the ragime, and having China and the US go to war
would not work in its favour.
Nor would US and Chinese cooperation against NK's interests, which is
to build a nuclear deterrent against what they see as an inevitable
attack from the US (which I also think will happen should Bush get
re-elected). Only way to do this is by finding a way to keep the US
and China at odds with each other. One way is by manipulating the
Taiwan issue.
You make a good point, Chinese and US cooperation on the Nuclear issue
would be upsetting for North Korea, However, North Korea is tempting fate
by playing the Taiwan issue, its a bit like Iraqs illigal weapons issue,
playing with fire so to speak and giving the US a reason to invade.
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| User: "christisdore" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
30 Nov 2003 05:04:23 PM |
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"Daniel Robinson" <anzactz@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<9Ecyb.10487$ws.961011@news02.tsnz.net>...
"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311280708.6e9c2f72@posting.google.com...
"Daniel Robinson" <anzactz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<MJyxb.10193$ws.903964@news02.tsnz.net>...
"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311271800.5ab14cf3@posting.google.com...
continues to stand in Taiwan's corner when it speaks out
against China, even including it in it global missle defense schemes,
both countries will end up strengthening their ties.
North Korea understand that as long as China sees the US as a serious
threat, and not a potential trade partner, it will look at NK with the
old Cold War mentality as a buffer against US aggression and not a
dangerous nuissance that could impact it's efforts toward "limited"
globalization. The the single biggest issue that can turn the Us into
a big demon over night is US support for Taiwan independence.
Therefore NK will try to influence affairs in Taiwan in all ways thay
can maximize the potential for a confrontation between the two nations
over this issue.
Your making the assumption that North Korea wants to see a war. I can
almost grantee that North Korea has little interest in anything but
political survival of the ragime, and having China and the US go to war
would not work in its favour.
Nor would US and Chinese cooperation against NK's interests, which is
to build a nuclear deterrent against what they see as an inevitable
attack from the US (which I also think will happen should Bush get
re-elected). Only way to do this is by finding a way to keep the US
and China at odds with each other. One way is by manipulating the
Taiwan issue.
You make a good point, Chinese and US cooperation on the Nuclear issue
would be upsetting for North Korea, However, North Korea is tempting fate
by playing the Taiwan issue
There isn't much NK can do about the Taiwan matter.
, its a bit like Iraqs illigal weapons issue,
playing with fire so to speak and giving the US a reason to invade.
The US doesn't want war with NK. NK doesn't want war with the US.
China doesn't want war with the US, a great trade partner. There will
be a lot of posturing on all sides probably though, along with
threats. China will threaten Taiwan, but they need Japanese and
American money.
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| User: "Arnold Holbrook" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
01 Dec 2003 12:13:51 PM |
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(christisdore) wrote in message news:<f6a87778.0311301504.39da99bf@posting.google.com>...
"Daniel Robinson" <anzactz@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<9Ecyb.10487$ws.961011@news02.tsnz.net>...
"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311280708.6e9c2f72@posting.google.com...
"Daniel Robinson" <anzactz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<MJyxb.10193$ws.903964@news02.tsnz.net>...
"Arnold Holbrook" <arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:7e4bfa4a.0311271800.5ab14cf3@posting.google.com...
continues to stand in Taiwan's corner when it speaks out
against China, even including it in it global missle defense schemes,
both countries will end up strengthening their ties.
North Korea understand that as long as China sees the US as a serious
threat, and not a potential trade partner, it will look at NK with the
old Cold War mentality as a buffer against US aggression and not a
dangerous nuissance that could impact it's efforts toward "limited"
globalization. The the single biggest issue that can turn the Us into
a big demon over night is US support for Taiwan independence.
Therefore NK will try to influence affairs in Taiwan in all ways thay
can maximize the potential for a confrontation between the two nations
over this issue.
Your making the assumption that North Korea wants to see a war. I can
almost grantee that North Korea has little interest in anything but
political survival of the ragime, and having China and the US go to war
would not work in its favour.
Nor would US and Chinese cooperation against NK's interests, which is
to build a nuclear deterrent against what they see as an inevitable
attack from the US (which I also think will happen should Bush get
re-elected). Only way to do this is by finding a way to keep the US
and China at odds with each other. One way is by manipulating the
Taiwan issue.
You make a good point, Chinese and US cooperation on the Nuclear issue
would be upsetting for North Korea, However, North Korea is tempting fate
by playing the Taiwan issue
There isn't much NK can do about the Taiwan matter.
, its a bit like Iraqs illigal weapons issue,
playing with fire so to speak and giving the US a reason to invade.
The US doesn't want war with NK.
I totally disagree. if Bush gets re-elected, that is where we are
going. That is why the North Koreans are going all out with trying to
develop a nuclear capability, so they can deter a US attack that they
see an inevitable. Not too sure if this will really be an effective
deterent, however.
After finding no WMD in Iraq, Bush will desperately need an oportunity
to restore his credibility with the opportunity NK provides to say
"See, this WMD stuff is not BS!" This will help his neocon puppets
once he finishes his second term.
NK doesn't want war with the US.
China doesn't want war with the US, a great trade partner.
Untill we start running to Taiwan's defense in light of the Taiwanese
PM's provokative behavior.
There will
be a lot of posturing on all sides probably though, along with
threats. China will threaten Taiwan, but they need Japanese and
American money.
I wonder if Taiwan really needs China's market though. I bet the
current PM is going to "reorient" the Taiwanese market away from
dependence on the Chinese market.
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| User: "Grantland" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
01 Dec 2003 01:13:51 PM |
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(Arnold Holbrook) wrote:
"See, this WMD stuff is not BS!" This will help his neocon puppetmasters once he finishes his second term.
There, fixed it. *****.
<snippped the rest of the foul Jew lies and war-mongering>
Grantland
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| User: "Arnold Holbrook" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
03 Dec 2003 11:15:53 AM |
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(Grantland) wrote in message news:<3fcb9247.1015752424@ct-news.iafrica.com>...
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) wrote:
"See, this WMD stuff is not BS!" This will help his neocon puppetmasters once he finishes his second term.
There, fixed it. *****.
<snippped the rest of the foul Jew lies and war-mongering>
Grantland
Fascinating. This person calls me a war mongerer, yet he or she
advocates an ideology that was carried out by one of histories biggest
war mongerers.
Peter L seems to have disappeared to everyones interest, Jean Geurron
seems to have thankfully made his or her presence minimal, and that
***** Darksyde has quieted down to everyone's benefit. Next on the
Gestapo list should be Grantland.
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| User: "Grantland" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
03 Dec 2003 09:43:57 PM |
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(Arnold Holbrook) lied:
Grantland wrote:
(Arnold Holbrook) lied:
"See, this WMD stuff is not BS!" This will help his neocon puppetmasters once he finishes his second term.
There, fixed it. *****.
<snippped the rest of the foul Jew lies and war-mongering>
Grantland
Fascinating. This person calls me a war mongerer, yet he or she
advocates an ideology that was carried out by one of histories biggest
war mongerers.
The stink of foul lying: objection to it. Then the *****-eating filth
starts yelling "Nazi". *****-eating filth of foul stink lies. What
"ideology" would that be, *****-eater? National Socialism? Moi? Get
the ***** out of here. Dirty filth.
Grantland
Peter L seems to have disappeared to everyones interest, Jean Geurron
seems to have thankfully made his or her presence minimal, and that
***** Darksyde has quieted down to everyone's benefit. Next on the
Gestapo list should be Grantland.
Mossad list, y'mean. Filthy Nazionist *****-eating scum.
Grantland
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| User: "Arnold Holbrook" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
04 Dec 2003 11:39:49 AM |
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(Grantland) wrote in message news:<3fceaa96.1218582869@ct-news.iafrica.com>...
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) lied:
Grantland wrote:
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) lied:
"See, this WMD stuff is not BS!" This will help his neocon puppetmasters once he finishes his second term.
There, fixed it. *****.
<snippped the rest of the foul Jew lies and war-mongering>
Grantland
Fascinating. This person calls me a war mongerer, yet he or she
advocates an ideology that was carried out by one of histories biggest
war mongerers.
The stink of foul lying: objection to it. Then the *****-eating filth
starts yelling "Nazi". *****-eating filth of foul stink lies. What
"ideology" would that be, *****-eater? National Socialism? Moi? Get
the ***** out of here. Dirty filth.
Grantland
Peter L seems to have disappeared to everyones interest, Jean Geurron
seems to have thankfully made his or her presence minimal, and that
***** Darksyde has quieted down to everyone's benefit. Next on the
Gestapo list should be Grantland.
Mossad list, y'mean. Filthy Nazionist *****-eating scum.
Grantland
I am IMPRESSED with our command potential of profanity. You have the
graphic and disgust factor down, but you need to expand your vulgar
terms. Keep it up, though. Need to say more than ***** eating. How
about fececes masturbating sex offender?
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| User: "Anon Ymous" |
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| Title: Re: Relations between China and Russia, North Korea's survival strategy. |
04 Dec 2003 11:55:33 AM |
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(Grantland) wrote in message news:<3fceaa96.1218582869@ct-news.iafrica.com>...
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) lied:
Grantland wrote:
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) lied:
"See, this WMD stuff is not BS!" This will help his neocon puppetmasters once he finishes his second term.
There, fixed it. *****.
<snippped the rest of the foul Jew lies and war-mongering>
Grantland
Fascinating. This person calls me a war mongerer, yet he or she
advocates an ideology that was carried out by one of histories biggest
war mongerers.
The stink of foul lying: objection to it. Then the *****-eating filth
starts yelling "Nazi". *****-eating filth of foul stink lies. What
"ideology" would that be, *****-eater? National Socialism? Moi? Get
the ***** out of here. Dirty filth.
Grantland
Maybe he meant General Nathan Bedford Forrest...
http://www.civilwarhome.com/natbio.htm
Excerpts:
With no formal military training, Nathan Bedford Forrest became one of
the leading cavalry figures of the Civil War. The native Tennesseean
had amassed a fortune, which he estimated at $1,500,000, as a slave
trader and plantation owner before enlisting in the Confederate
army...
His assignments included: lieutenant colonel, Forrest's
Tennessee Cavalry Battalion (October 1861); colonel, 3rd Tennessee
Cavalry (March 1862); brigadier general, CSA July 21, 1862);
commanding cavalry brigade
When Forrest captured Fort Pillow a controversy developed over reports
of a massacre of the largely black garrison.
Joining the Ku Klux Klan shortly after the war, he was apparently one
of its early leaders. Forrest once summed up his military theory as
"Get there first with the most men" (Get there firstest with the
mostest).
Any relation to you, Leeland? Or should I say Forrestland? ha ha ha
ha ha =D
S~
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