Bush Admin Bracing For
I have already seen these photos yesterday, you fucking American pond
scum should be ashamed, and to think you are trying to tell the world
that you are doing this in the name of "Democracy" Hahahahahaha. Your
time is up, get ready for a real rough ride from here on in.
Release Of Horrific New Photos
By Andrew Buncombe
The Independent - UK
5-9-4
WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration was bracing itself last night
for the release of new pictures and video footage from Abu Ghraib
which show US soldiers having sex with an Iraqi woman prisoner, troops
almost beating a prisoner to death, and the rape of young boys by
Iraqi guards at the jail.
Senior officials have warned that the new images and details of the
abuse and torture at the prison west of Baghdad will be even more
shocking than those already released. They will undoubtedly place even
more pressure on President George Bush and his beleaguered Defence
Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, as they desperately try to limit the
political damage from the growing scandal.
NBC News has quoted military officials as saying that the new
photographsalso show US soldiers "acting inappropriately with a dead
body". This may refer to a picture, which The Washington Post
described but did not publish, of Sabrina Harman, one of seven
reservists charged with abuses, posing with thumbs up next to a
decaying corpse.
NBC also reported that the rape of young boys by Iraqi guards,
apparently in a special section of the prison, had been filmed by US
soldiers.
There are even suggestions that the murder of a prisoner has been
recorded. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham from South Carolina
questioned Mr Rumsfeld on Friday about why the abuse had not been
detected earlier. "The American public needs to understand we're
talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about
giving people a humiliating experience."
The new images will further rock the Bush administration, suffering
its worst crisis yet after photographs showing US army reservists
abusing and sexually humiliating prisoners caused international
revulsion and outrage. But the knowledge that the abuse was much more
widespread, and that there are more shocking images to come, is
threatening even more problems for Mr Bush as he prepares to hand over
sovereignty to an Iraqi government on 30 June.
Further evidence emerged, meanwhile, that the abuse of prisoners by
military police reservists was ordered by military intelligence
officers, CIA operatives or even by privately hired civilian
interrogators. Ms Harman said they were told to break the prisoners
down in preparation for questioning.
"They would bring in one or several prisoners at a time already hooded
and cuffed. The job of the MP [military police] was to keep them
awake, make it hell so they would talk," Ms Harman, 26, from northern
Virginia, told The Washington Post. "The person who brought them in
would set the standards on whether or not to 'be nice'."
A total of seven reservists from the 372nd Military Police Company
based in Cumberland, Maryland, have now been charged over the abuse,
including Lynndie England, 21, who was photographed with a prisoner on
a leash. Seven other soldiers have been reprimanded, and several
relieved of command.
Rumours of the existence of more pictures have been circulating in
Washington for days and were confirmed on Friday by Mr Rumsfeld, who
said they were "sadistic, cruel and inhuman".
The investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, who revealed the extent of
the abuse, warned earlier last week: "It's going to get much worse.
This kind of stuff was much more widespread.
"There are videotapes of stuff that you wouldn't want to mention on
national television ... There were things done to young boys."
President Bush insisted that while the abuse of Iraqi prisoners was "a
stain on our country's honour and reputation", it would not deflect
his mission in Iraq.
"[The photographs] do not reflect our values," he said.
© 2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=519448
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wrote in message news:<9m6s901urv02vgh4h2kra0lj0jmu9gamfg@4ax.com>...
Bush Admin Bracing For
I have already seen these photos yesterday, you fucking American pond
scum should be ashamed, and to think you are trying to tell the world
that you are doing this in the name of "Democracy" Hahahahahaha. Your
time is up, get ready for a real rough ride from here on in.
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President Bush insisted that while the abuse of Iraqi prisoners was "a
stain on our country's honour and reputation", it would not deflect
his mission in Iraq.
"[The photographs] do not reflect our values," he said.
© 2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=519448
Well whatever the fall out! perhaps a look at the why and how might
bring into focus, just what is going on, so check out this little
number:
http://www.prisonexp.org/
Then maybe you will see the why of the behaviour depicted.
LB
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10 May 2004 07:23:27 AM |
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On 10 May 2004 02:45:04 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
wrote:
Zak@home.com wrote in message news:<9m6s901urv02vgh4h2kra0lj0jmu9gamfg@4ax.com>...
Bush Admin Bracing For
I have already seen these photos yesterday, you fucking American pond
scum should be ashamed, and to think you are trying to tell the world
that you are doing this in the name of "Democracy" Hahahahahaha. Your
time is up, get ready for a real rough ride from here on in.
SNIP>
President Bush insisted that while the abuse of Iraqi prisoners was "a
stain on our country's honour and reputation", it would not deflect
his mission in Iraq.
"[The photographs] do not reflect our values," he said.
© 2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=519448
Well whatever the fall out! perhaps a look at the why and how might
bring into focus, just what is going on, so check out this little
number:
http://www.prisonexp.org/
Then maybe you will see the why of the behaviour depicted.
LB
The War Is Lost
By William Rivers Pitt
Truthout Perspective
5-9-4
We have traveled a long, dark, strange road since the attacks of
September 11. We have all suffered, we have all known fear and anger,
and sometimes hatred. Many of us have felt - probably more than we are
willing to admit it - at one time or another a desire for revenge, so
deep was the wound inflicted upon us during that wretched,
unforgettable Tuesday morning in September of 2001.
But we have come now to the end of a week so awful, so terrible, so
wrenching that the most basic moral fabric of that which we believe is
good and great - the basic moral fabric of the United States of
America - has been torn bitterly asunder.
We are awash in photographs of Iraqi men - not terrorists, just people
- lying in heaps on cold floors with leashes around their necks. We
are awash in photographs of men chained so remorselessly that their
backs are arched in agony, men forced to masturbate for cameras, men
forced to pretend to have sex with one another for cameras, men forced
to endure attacks from dogs, men with electrodes attached to them as
they stand, hooded, in fear of their lives.
The worst, amazingly, is yet to come. A new battery of photographs and
videotapes, as yet unreleased, awaits over the horizon of our abused
understanding. These photos and videos, also from the Abu Ghraib
prison, are reported to show U.S. soldiers gang raping an Iraqi woman,
U.S. soldiers beating an Iraqi man nearly to death, U.S. troops
posing, smirks affixed, with decomposing Iraqi bodies, and Iraqi
troops under U.S. command raping young boys.
George W. Bush would have us believe these horrors were restricted to
a sadistic few, and would have us believe these horrors happened only
in Abu Ghraib. Yet reports are surfacing now of similar treatment at
another U.S. detention center in Iraq called Camp Bucca. According to
these reports, Iraqi prisoners in Camp Bucca were beaten, humiliated,
hogtied, and had scorpions placed on their naked bodies.
In the eyes of the world, this is America today. It cannot be
dismissed as an anomaly because it went on and on and on in the Abu
Ghraib prison, and because now we hear of Camp Bucca. According to the
British press, there are some 30 other cases of torture and
humiliation under investigation. The Bush administration went out of
its way to cover up this disgrace, declaring secret the Army report on
these atrocities. That, pointedly, is against the rules and against
the law. You can't call something classified just because it is
embarrassing and disgusting. It was secret, but now it is out, and the
whole world has been shown the dark, scabrous underbelly of our
definition of freedom.
The beginnings of actual political fallout began to find its way into
the White House last week. Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania,
the House Democrats' most vocal defense hawk, joined Minority Leader
Nancy Pelosi to declare that the conflict is "unwinnable." Murtha, a
Vietnam veteran, rocked the Democratic caucus when he said at a
leader's luncheon Tuesday that the United States cannot win the war in
Iraq.
"Unwinnable." Well, it only took about 14 months.
Also last week, calls for the resignation of Defense Secretary Don
Rumsfeld became strident. Pelosi accused Rumsfeld of being "in denial
about Iraq," and said U.S. soldiers "are suffering great casualties
and injuries, and American taxpayers are paying an enormous price"
because Rumsfeld "has done a poor job as secretary of defense."
Representative Charlie Rangel, a leading critic of the Iraq invasion,
has filed articles of impeachment against Rumsfeld.
So there's the heat. But let us consider the broader picture here in
the context of that one huge word: "Unwinnable." Why did we do this in
the first place? There have been several reasons offered over the last
16 months for why we needed to do this thing.
It started, for real, in January 2003 when George W. Bush said in his
State of the Union speech that Iraq was in possession of 26,000 liters
of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin,
mustard and VX, 30,000 munitions to deliver this stuff, and that Iraq
was seeking uranium from Niger to build nuclear bombs.
That reason has been scratched off the list because, as has been made
painfully clear now, there are no such weapons in Iraq. The Niger
claim, in particular, has caused massive embarrassment for America
because it was so farcical, and has led to a federal investigation of
this White House because two administration officials took revenge
upon Joseph Wilson's wife for Wilson''s exposure of the lie.
Next on the list was September 11, and the oft-repeated accusation
that Saddam Hussein must have been at least partially responsible.
That one collapsed as well - Bush himself had to come out and say
Saddam had nothing to do with it.
Two reasons down, so the third must be freedom and liberty for the
Iraqi people. Once again, however, facts interfere. America does not
want a democratic Iraq, because a democratic Iraq would quickly become
a Shi'ite fundamentalist Iraq allied with the Shi'ite fundamentalist
nation of Iran, a strategic situation nobody with a brain wants to see
come to pass. It has been made clear by Paul Bremer, the American
administrator of Iraq, that whatever the new Iraqi government comes to
look like, it will have no power to make any laws of any kind, it will
have no control over the security of Iraq, and it will have no power
over the foreign troops which occupy its soil. This is, perhaps, some
bizarre new definition of democracy not yet in the dictionary, but it
is not democracy by any currently accepted definition I have ever
heard of.
So...the reason to go to war because of weapons of mass destruction is
destroyed. The reason to go to war because of connections to September
11 is destroyed. The reason to go to war in order to bring freedom and
democracy to Iraq is destroyed.
What is left? The one reason left has been unfailingly flapped around
by defenders of this administration and supporters of this war: Saddam
Hussein was a terrible, terrible man. He killed his own people. He
tortured his own people. The Iraqis are better off without him, and so
the war is justified.
And here, now, is the final excuse destroyed. We have killed more than
10,000 innocent Iraqi civilians in this invasion, and maimed countless
others. The photos from Abu Ghraib prison show that we, like Saddam
Hussein, torture and humiliate the Iraqi people. Worst of all, we do
this in the same prison Hussein used to do his torturing. The "rape
rooms," often touted by Bush as justification for the invasion, are
back. We are the killers now. We are the torturers now. We have
achieved a moral equivalence with the Butcher of Baghdad.
This war is lost. I mean not just the Iraq war, but George W. Bush's
ridiculous "War on Terror" as a whole.
I say ridiculous because this "War on Terror" was never, ever
something we were going to win. What began on September 11 with the
world wrapping us in its loving embrace has collapsed today in a
literal orgy of shame and disgrace. This happened, simply, because of
the complete failure of moral leadership at the highest levels.
We saw a prime example of this during Friday's farce of a Senate
hearing into the Abu Ghraib disaster which starred Don Rumsfeld. From
his bully pulpit spoke Senator Joe Lieberman, who parrots the worst of
Bush's war propaganda with unfailingly dreary regularity. Responding
to the issue of whether or not Bush and Rumsfeld should apologize for
Abu Ghraib, Lieberman stated that none of the terrorists had
apologized for September 11.
There it was, in a nutshell. There was the idea, oft promulgated by
the administration, that September 11 made any barbarism, any extreme,
any horror brought forth by the United States acceptable, and even
desirable. There was the institutionalization of revenge as a basis
for policy. Sure, Abu Ghraib was bad, Mr. Lieberman put forth. But
September 11 happened, so all bets are off.
Thus fails the "War on Terror." September 11 did not demand of us the
lowest common denominator, did not demand of us that we become that
which we despise and denounce. September 11 demanded that we be
better, greater, more righteous than those who brought death to us.
September 11 demanded that we be better, and in doing so, we would
show the world that those who attacked us are far, far less than us.
That would have been victory, with nary a shot being fired.
Our leaders, however, took us in exactly the opposite direction.
Every reason to go to Iraq has failed to retain even a semblance of
credibility. Every bit of propaganda Osama bin Laden served up to the
Muslim world for why America should be attacked and destroyed has been
given credibility by what has taken place in Iraq. Victory in this
"War on Terror," a propaganda war from the beginning, has been given
to the September 11 attackers by the hand of George W. Bush, and by
the hand of those who enabled his incomprehensible blundering.
The war is lost.
William Rivers Pitt is the senior editor and lead writer for t r u t h
o u t. He is a New York Times and international bestselling author of
two books - 'War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know' and
'The Greatest Sedition is Silence.'
© : t r u t h o u t 2004
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/051004A.shtml
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10 May 2004 12:29:44 AM |
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On Sun, 09 May 2004 07:51:59 -0400, wrote:
Bush Admin Bracing For
I have already seen these photos yesterday, you fucking American pond
scum should be ashamed, and to think you are trying to tell the world
that you are doing this in the name of "Democracy" Hahahahahaha. Your
time is up, get ready for a real rough ride from here on in.
Hahahahahahahahhh I'm an American and I'm horrified by it Ahahahahahh
Hahahahahahahahahahahhhhhh probably more than you Hahahahahahahahhh
Dani
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