Here's a report from the NYTimes in May '03.
At that time there were approx 150 military deaths in Iraq. Since that
time over 800 military deaths have occured.
Any more doubts about Bush's military genius?
And to top it off, there are no WMD's.
------------------------------------------------------------
WASHINGTON -- President Bush's made-for-television address tonight on the
carrier Abraham Lincoln was a powerful, Reaganesque finale to a six-week
war. But beneath the golden images of a president steaming home with his
troops toward the California coast lay the cold political and military
realities that drove Mr. Bush's advisers to create the moment.
The president declared an end to major combat operations, White House,
Pentagon and State Department officials said, for three crucial reasons:
to signify the shift of American soldiers from the role of conquerors to
police, to open the way for aid from countries that refused to help
militarily and — above all — to signal to voters that Mr. Bush is shifting
his focus from Baghdad to concerns at home.
Mr. Bush was careful, though, not to close the door completely on his
greatest political strength, his role as the warrior president who struck
back after Sept. 11. For the first time in months, he reprised his most
emotional oratory from the attacks and directly tied it to Iraq and his
battle against terrorism.
"The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on Sept.
11, 2001, and still goes on," he said.
Even so, administration officials acknowledged that Mr. Bush's declaration
of an all-but-over war carried huge risks. Not only could Iraq blow up
again, they said, but major tasks were also unfinished. Weapons of mass
destruction have not been found, Saddam Hussein's fate is a mystery and
American troops remain under attack. Some political strategists say the
Republican advantage over Democrats on national security has never been
greater, and they questioned whether Mr. Bush should so quickly distance
himself from his role as commander in chief.
Mr. Bush himself cautioned about the risks, saying:
"We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of
that country that remain dangerous. We are pursuing and finding leaders of
the old regime, who will be held account for their crimes."
But when Karl Rove, his chief political adviser, happily told friends last
week that Mr. Bush would soon declare the war over, it was a turning point
that re-energized a White House domestic staff eager to step into the
light after months in the West Wing shadows. Mr. Bush's speech, a cautious
victory dance, was intended to use the capital from the military success
to push forward his domestic agenda.
"The big event is over," Michael O'Hanlon, a military expert at the
Brookings Institution, said. "Why not take a victory lap, and what
politico would advise against it? Bush's tone is excellent right now. He's
good at the emotions of war. He doesn't appear giddy. He doesn't appear
overcongratulatory. He doesn't have Rumsfeld's tendency to go around and
boast and taunt his critics."
Administration officials said the first reason for the speech, to
recognize the troops' shift to policing, was an effort to keep White House
oratory in sync with reality. In military parlance, Mr. Bush was making a
statement of the "commander's intent" to 300,000 members of the air, land
and naval forces in the Persian Gulf that the war was essentially over, an
important moment of psychological closure.
"This is the military," a senior administration official said. "They don't
just roll in one day. Everything is defined. They need somebody to
declare, `This thing is over.' "
The statement was directed as much at civilians at home and abroad, other
administration officials said, to make clear that the United States is
determined, eventually, to leave.
"This is the formalization that tells everybody we're not engaged in
combat anymore, we're prepared for getting out," a senior administration
official said.
The second reason for Mr. Bush's speech, to clear the way for countries
that did not contribute to combat operations, was also widely seen as an
opening of the door for humanitarian and nongovernmental organizations to
move into Baghdad.
"It goes hand in hand with the military, essentially saying that it's a
much less dangerous environment for people to operate in," an
administration official said.
It was the third reason for the speech, changing the subject to domestic
concerns and Mr. Bush's future, that motivated the White House to create
an extraordinary moment of presidential political theater on the deck of
the Lincoln. Republicans noted that whoever came up with the idea of
having Mr. Bush jet onto the carrier in a flight suit, looking rugged and
windblown while surrounded by sailors and fighter pilots, had earned the
day's pay.
The television images would quite likely be some of the final images of
the president at war, and White House advisers were clearly determined to
make them lasting ones.
In a sense, Mr. Bush was leaving the political comforts of his role as
commander in chief and stepping into the possibly treacherous role as
steward of the economy.
"Let's face it, Bush's strength is his foreign policy leadership," said
Stephen Moore, president of the Club for Growth, a lobbying group that has
close ties to the White House. "By turning away from foreign policy
issues, it makes him somewhat more vulnerable in that now people focus on
jobs and the stock market and the economy generally."
Mr. Moore noted that in the last century no president had been re-elected
when the stock market was down in his first term, with Jimmy Carter and
Herbert Hoover being prime examples.
But Mr. Bush, basking in the warm early evening light over the Pacific
Ocean, sounded the names of the presidents of his pantheon, Franklin D.
Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman and, of course, Ronald Reagan, who inspired the
entire event.
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21 Aug 2004 08:51:18 AM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:opsc2235imld1pme@pc...
Here's a report from the NYTimes in May '03.
At that time there were approx 150 military deaths in Iraq. Since that
time over 800 military deaths have occured.
Any more doubts about Bush's military genius?
And to top it off, there are no WMD's.
------------------------------------------------------------
WASHINGTON -- President Bush's made-for-television address tonight on
the
carrier Abraham Lincoln was a powerful, Reaganesque finale to a six-week
war. But beneath the golden images of a president steaming home with his
troops toward the California coast lay the cold political and military
realities that drove Mr. Bush's advisers to create the moment.
The president declared an end to major combat operations, White House,
Pentagon and State Department officials said, for three crucial reasons:
to signify the shift of American soldiers from the role of conquerors to
police, to open the way for aid from countries that refused to help
militarily and — above all — to signal to voters that Mr. Bush is
shifting
his focus from Baghdad to concerns at home.
Mr. Bush was careful, though, not to close the door completely on his
greatest political strength, his role as the warrior president who
struck
back after Sept. 11. For the first time in months, he reprised his most
emotional oratory from the attacks and directly tied it to Iraq and his
battle against terrorism.
"The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on
Sept.
11, 2001, and still goes on," he said.
Even so, administration officials acknowledged that Mr. Bush's
declaration
of an all-but-over war carried huge risks. Not only could Iraq blow up
again, they said, but major tasks were also unfinished. Weapons of mass
destruction have not been found, Saddam Hussein's fate is a mystery and
American troops remain under attack. Some political strategists say the
Republican advantage over Democrats on national security has never been
greater, and they questioned whether Mr. Bush should so quickly distance
himself from his role as commander in chief.
Mr. Bush himself cautioned about the risks, saying:
"We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of
that country that remain dangerous. We are pursuing and finding leaders
of
the old regime, who will be held account for their crimes."
But when Karl Rove, his chief political adviser, happily told friends
last
week that Mr. Bush would soon declare the war over, it was a turning
point
that re-energized a White House domestic staff eager to step into the
light after months in the West Wing shadows. Mr. Bush's speech, a
cautious
victory dance, was intended to use the capital from the military success
to push forward his domestic agenda.
"The big event is over," Michael O'Hanlon, a military expert at the
Brookings Institution, said. "Why not take a victory lap, and what
politico would advise against it? Bush's tone is excellent right now.
He's
good at the emotions of war. He doesn't appear giddy. He doesn't appear
overcongratulatory. He doesn't have Rumsfeld's tendency to go around and
boast and taunt his critics."
Administration officials said the first reason for the speech, to
recognize the troops' shift to policing, was an effort to keep White
House
oratory in sync with reality. In military parlance, Mr. Bush was making
a
statement of the "commander's intent" to 300,000 members of the air,
land
and naval forces in the Persian Gulf that the war was essentially over,
an
important moment of psychological closure.
"This is the military," a senior administration official said. "They
don't
just roll in one day. Everything is defined. They need somebody to
declare, `This thing is over.' "
The statement was directed as much at civilians at home and abroad,
other
administration officials said, to make clear that the United States is
determined, eventually, to leave.
"This is the formalization that tells everybody we're not engaged in
combat anymore, we're prepared for getting out," a senior administration
official said.
The second reason for Mr. Bush's speech, to clear the way for countries
that did not contribute to combat operations, was also widely seen as an
opening of the door for humanitarian and nongovernmental organizations
to
move into Baghdad.
"It goes hand in hand with the military, essentially saying that it's a
much less dangerous environment for people to operate in," an
administration official said.
It was the third reason for the speech, changing the subject to domestic
concerns and Mr. Bush's future, that motivated the White House to create
an extraordinary moment of presidential political theater on the deck of
the Lincoln. Republicans noted that whoever came up with the idea of
having Mr. Bush jet onto the carrier in a flight suit, looking rugged
and
windblown while surrounded by sailors and fighter pilots, had earned the
day's pay.
The television images would quite likely be some of the final images of
the president at war, and White House advisers were clearly determined
to
make them lasting ones.
In a sense, Mr. Bush was leaving the political comforts of his role as
commander in chief and stepping into the possibly treacherous role as
steward of the economy.
"Let's face it, Bush's strength is his foreign policy leadership," said
Stephen Moore, president of the Club for Growth, a lobbying group that
has
close ties to the White House. "By turning away from foreign policy
issues, it makes him somewhat more vulnerable in that now people focus
on
jobs and the stock market and the economy generally."
Mr. Moore noted that in the last century no president had been
re-elected
when the stock market was down in his first term, with Jimmy Carter and
Herbert Hoover being prime examples.
But Mr. Bush, basking in the warm early evening light over the Pacific
Ocean, sounded the names of the presidents of his pantheon, Franklin D.
Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman and, of course, Ronald Reagan, who inspired
the
entire event.
Neocons will tell you that the Iraq war is now in a "long mop-up
operation" and that major combat has ended ! LOL...
And some dumb ***** named Gunner here told me that the "Mission
Accomplished" was meant for the crew of the aircraft carrier ! ! Their
mission had been accomplished, he wrote.
Dr. Blunt
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:51:18 -0700, Dr. Blunt <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:opsc2235imld1pme@pc...
Here's a report from the NYTimes in May '03.
At that time there were approx 150 military deaths in Iraq. Since that
time over 800 military deaths have occured.
Any more doubts about Bush's military genius?
And to top it off, there are no WMD's.
------------------------------------------------------------
WASHINGTON -- President Bush's made-for-television address tonight on
the
carrier Abraham Lincoln was a powerful, Reaganesque finale to a six-week
war. But beneath the golden images of a president steaming home with his
troops toward the California coast lay the cold political and military
realities that drove Mr. Bush's advisers to create the moment.
The president declared an end to major combat operations, White House,
Pentagon and State Department officials said, for three crucial reasons:
to signify the shift of American soldiers from the role of conquerors to
police, to open the way for aid from countries that refused to help
militarily and — above all — to signal to voters that Mr. Bush is
shifting
his focus from Baghdad to concerns at home.
Mr. Bush was careful, though, not to close the door completely on his
greatest political strength, his role as the warrior president who
struck
back after Sept. 11. For the first time in months, he reprised his most
emotional oratory from the attacks and directly tied it to Iraq and his
battle against terrorism.
"The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on
Sept.
11, 2001, and still goes on," he said.
Even so, administration officials acknowledged that Mr. Bush's
declaration
of an all-but-over war carried huge risks. Not only could Iraq blow up
again, they said, but major tasks were also unfinished. Weapons of mass
destruction have not been found, Saddam Hussein's fate is a mystery and
American troops remain under attack. Some political strategists say the
Republican advantage over Democrats on national security has never been
greater, and they questioned whether Mr. Bush should so quickly distance
himself from his role as commander in chief.
Mr. Bush himself cautioned about the risks, saying:
"We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of
that country that remain dangerous. We are pursuing and finding leaders
of
the old regime, who will be held account for their crimes."
But when Karl Rove, his chief political adviser, happily told friends
last
week that Mr. Bush would soon declare the war over, it was a turning
point
that re-energized a White House domestic staff eager to step into the
light after months in the West Wing shadows. Mr. Bush's speech, a
cautious
victory dance, was intended to use the capital from the military success
to push forward his domestic agenda.
"The big event is over," Michael O'Hanlon, a military expert at the
Brookings Institution, said. "Why not take a victory lap, and what
politico would advise against it? Bush's tone is excellent right now.
He's
good at the emotions of war. He doesn't appear giddy. He doesn't appear
overcongratulatory. He doesn't have Rumsfeld's tendency to go around and
boast and taunt his critics."
Administration officials said the first reason for the speech, to
recognize the troops' shift to policing, was an effort to keep White
House
oratory in sync with reality. In military parlance, Mr. Bush was making
a
statement of the "commander's intent" to 300,000 members of the air,
land
and naval forces in the Persian Gulf that the war was essentially over,
an
important moment of psychological closure.
"This is the military," a senior administration official said. "They
don't
just roll in one day. Everything is defined. They need somebody to
declare, `This thing is over.' "
The statement was directed as much at civilians at home and abroad,
other
administration officials said, to make clear that the United States is
determined, eventually, to leave.
"This is the formalization that tells everybody we're not engaged in
combat anymore, we're prepared for getting out," a senior administration
official said.
The second reason for Mr. Bush's speech, to clear the way for countries
that did not contribute to combat operations, was also widely seen as an
opening of the door for humanitarian and nongovernmental organizations
to
move into Baghdad.
"It goes hand in hand with the military, essentially saying that it's a
much less dangerous environment for people to operate in," an
administration official said.
It was the third reason for the speech, changing the subject to domestic
concerns and Mr. Bush's future, that motivated the White House to create
an extraordinary moment of presidential political theater on the deck of
the Lincoln. Republicans noted that whoever came up with the idea of
having Mr. Bush jet onto the carrier in a flight suit, looking rugged
and
windblown while surrounded by sailors and fighter pilots, had earned the
day's pay.
The television images would quite likely be some of the final images of
the president at war, and White House advisers were clearly determined
to
make them lasting ones.
In a sense, Mr. Bush was leaving the political comforts of his role as
commander in chief and stepping into the possibly treacherous role as
steward of the economy.
"Let's face it, Bush's strength is his foreign policy leadership," said
Stephen Moore, president of the Club for Growth, a lobbying group that
has
close ties to the White House. "By turning away from foreign policy
issues, it makes him somewhat more vulnerable in that now people focus
on
jobs and the stock market and the economy generally."
Mr. Moore noted that in the last century no president had been
re-elected
when the stock market was down in his first term, with Jimmy Carter and
Herbert Hoover being prime examples.
But Mr. Bush, basking in the warm early evening light over the Pacific
Ocean, sounded the names of the presidents of his pantheon, Franklin D.
Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman and, of course, Ronald Reagan, who inspired
the
entire event.
Neocons will tell you that the Iraq war is now in a "long mop-up
operation" and that major combat has ended ! LOL...
And some dumb ***** named Gunner here told me that the "Mission
Accomplished" was meant for the crew of the aircraft carrier ! ! Their
mission had been accomplished, he wrote.
Dr. Blunt
Actually I'm beginning to suspectthe original plan was to use Iraq as a
staging area for further conquest in the Gulf region. Me thinks Iran was
next on the 'Hit List' if Iraq had've rolled over quietly. But it didn't
and Iran has reason to keep Shiite ***** stirred up there. The U.S. can't
move into Iran until Iraq has been subdued.
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:51:18 -0700, Dr. Blunt <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:opsc2235imld1pme@pc...
Here's a report from the NYTimes in May '03.
At that time there were approx 150 military deaths in Iraq. Since that
time over 800 military deaths have occured.
Any more doubts about Bush's military genius?
And to top it off, there are no WMD's.
------------------------------------------------------------
WASHINGTON -- President Bush's made-for-television address tonight on
the
carrier Abraham Lincoln was a powerful, Reaganesque finale to a six-week
war. But beneath the golden images of a president steaming home with his
troops toward the California coast lay the cold political and military
realities that drove Mr. Bush's advisers to create the moment.
SNIP> >> But Mr. Bush, basking in the warm early evening light over the Pacific
Ocean, sounded the names of the presidents of his pantheon, Franklin D.
Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman and, of course, Ronald Reagan, who inspired
the
entire event.
Neocons will tell you that the Iraq war is now in a "long mop-up
operation" and that major combat has ended ! LOL...
And some dumb ***** named Gunner here told me that the "Mission
Accomplished" was meant for the crew of the aircraft carrier ! ! Their
mission had been accomplished, he wrote.
Dr. Blunt
Actually I'm beginning to suspectthe original plan was to use Iraq as a
staging area for further conquest in the Gulf region. Me thinks Iran was
next on the 'Hit List' if Iraq had've rolled over quietly. But it didn't
and Iran has reason to keep Shiite ***** stirred up there. The U.S. can't
move into Iran until Iraq has been subdued.
Suspect that was one of the reasons given by those pesky
"oppositionists" at the time.
But there is always Syria and close to Israel too, must be a join the
dots campaign.
Too bad if dashes come back!
Never have so many died without ceremony or regret.
LB
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