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User: "Zak"
Date: 03 Apr 2004 11:45:09 AM
Object: RFID tags for homeless
WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
said Thursday that it was about to begin testing a new technology
designed to help more closely monitor and assist the nation's homeless
population.
Under the pilot program, which grew out of a series of policy
academies
held in the last two years, homeless people in participating cities
will
be implanted with mandatory Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags
that social workers and police can use track their movements.
The RFID technology was developed by HHS' Health Resources and
Services
Administration (HRSA) in partnership with five states, including
California and New York. "This is a rare opportunity to use advanced
technology to meet society's dual objectives of better serving our
homeless population while making our cities safer," HRSA Administrator
Betty James Duke said.
The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be
implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin. Data from RFID tracking
stations mounted on telephone poles will be transmitted to police and
social service workers, who will use custom Windows NT software to
track
movements of the homeless in real time.
In what has become a chronic social problem, people living in shelters
and on the streets do not seek adequate medical care and frequently
contribute to the rising crime rate in major cities. Supporters of
subdermal RFID tracking say the technology will discourage implanted
homeless men and women from committing crimes, while making it easier
for government workers to provide social services such as delivering
food and medicine.
Duke called the RFID tagging pilot program "a high-tech,
minimally-intrusive way for the government to lift our citizens away
from the twin perils of poverty and crime." Participating cities
include
New York City, San Francisco, Washington, and Bethlehem, Penn.
Participating states will receive grants of $14 million to $58 million
from the federal Projects for Assistance in Transition from
Homelessness
(PATH) program, which was created under the McKinney Act to fund
support
services for the homeless. A second phase of the project, scheduled to
be completed in early 2005, will wirelessly transmit live information
on
the locations of homeless people to handheld computers running the
Windows CE operating system.
A spokesman for the National Coalition for the Homeless, which
estimates
that there are between 2.3 million and 3.5 million people experiencing
homelessness nationwide, said the pilot program could be easily
abused.
"We have expressed our tentative support for the idea to HRSA, but
only
if it includes privacy safeguards," the spokesman said. "So far it's
unclear whether those safeguards will actually be in place by
roll-out."
Chris Hoofnagle, deputy director of the Electronic Privacy Information
Center, said the mandatory RFID program would be vulnerable to a legal
challenge. "It is a glaring violation of the Tenth Amendment, which
says
that powers not awarded to the government are reserved to the people,
and homeless people have just as many Tenth Amendment rights as
everyone
else," said Hoofnagle, who is speaking about homeless privacy at this
month's Computers Freedom and Privacy conference in Berkeley, Calif.
While HRSA's program appears to be the first to forcibly implant
humans
with RFID tags, the technology is becoming more widely adopted as
retailers use it to track goods. Wal-Mart Stores said last year that
it
will require its top 100 suppliers to place RFID tags on shipping
crates
and pallets by January 2005.
.

User: "cesar"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 03 Apr 2004 12:31:34 PM
So, if Jesus was a wandering monk among the homeless, he's going to get
busted.
IT'S STARTING, AMERICA! Start heading for Canada.
cesar
"Zak" <Zak@home.com> wrote in message
news:70ut6056sqc7emvsdqair6p2qn9g90b5tu@4ax.com...

WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
said Thursday that it was about to begin testing a new technology
designed to help more closely monitor and assist the nation's homeless
population.

Under the pilot program, which grew out of a series of policy
academies
held in the last two years, homeless people in participating cities
will
be implanted with mandatory Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags
that social workers and police can use track their movements.

The RFID technology was developed by HHS' Health Resources and
Services
Administration (HRSA) in partnership with five states, including
California and New York. "This is a rare opportunity to use advanced
technology to meet society's dual objectives of better serving our
homeless population while making our cities safer," HRSA Administrator
Betty James Duke said.

The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be
implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin. Data from RFID tracking
stations mounted on telephone poles will be transmitted to police and
social service workers, who will use custom Windows NT software to
track
movements of the homeless in real time.

In what has become a chronic social problem, people living in shelters
and on the streets do not seek adequate medical care and frequently
contribute to the rising crime rate in major cities. Supporters of
subdermal RFID tracking say the technology will discourage implanted
homeless men and women from committing crimes, while making it easier
for government workers to provide social services such as delivering
food and medicine.

Duke called the RFID tagging pilot program "a high-tech,
minimally-intrusive way for the government to lift our citizens away
from the twin perils of poverty and crime." Participating cities
include
New York City, San Francisco, Washington, and Bethlehem, Penn.

Participating states will receive grants of $14 million to $58 million
from the federal Projects for Assistance in Transition from
Homelessness
(PATH) program, which was created under the McKinney Act to fund
support
services for the homeless. A second phase of the project, scheduled to
be completed in early 2005, will wirelessly transmit live information
on
the locations of homeless people to handheld computers running the
Windows CE operating system.

A spokesman for the National Coalition for the Homeless, which
estimates
that there are between 2.3 million and 3.5 million people experiencing
homelessness nationwide, said the pilot program could be easily
abused.
"We have expressed our tentative support for the idea to HRSA, but
only
if it includes privacy safeguards," the spokesman said. "So far it's
unclear whether those safeguards will actually be in place by
roll-out."

Chris Hoofnagle, deputy director of the Electronic Privacy Information
Center, said the mandatory RFID program would be vulnerable to a legal
challenge. "It is a glaring violation of the Tenth Amendment, which
says
that powers not awarded to the government are reserved to the people,
and homeless people have just as many Tenth Amendment rights as
everyone
else," said Hoofnagle, who is speaking about homeless privacy at this
month's Computers Freedom and Privacy conference in Berkeley, Calif.

While HRSA's program appears to be the first to forcibly implant
humans
with RFID tags, the technology is becoming more widely adopted as
retailers use it to track goods. Wal-Mart Stores said last year that
it
will require its top 100 suppliers to place RFID tags on shipping
crates
and pallets by January 2005.


.
User: "MB"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 03 Apr 2004 08:30:33 PM
Uh... This was from an unidentified source posting to slashdot, on APRIL
FIRST.
sheesh cesar,
mb
-----------------------
cesar wrote:


So, if Jesus was a wandering monk among the homeless, he's going to get
busted.

IT'S STARTING, AMERICA! Start heading for Canada.

cesar

"Zak" <Zak@home.com> wrote in message

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User: "cesar"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 03 Apr 2004 10:09:24 PM
"MB" <mkb@sonic.net> wrote in message news:406F7344.A07AE133@sonic.net...

Uh... This was from an unidentified source posting to slashdot, on APRIL
FIRST.

sheesh cesar,
mb

-----------------------
cesar wrote:


So, if Jesus was a wandering monk among the homeless, he's going to get
busted.

IT'S STARTING, AMERICA! Start heading for Canada.

cesar

"Zak" <Zak@home.com> wrote in message

Maybe it was an April Fool's joke but sometimes there is subliminal truth in
jokes.
The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it gets
injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?
cesar
.
User: "Zak"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 04 Apr 2004 07:12:26 AM
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:09:24 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


"MB" <mkb@sonic.net> wrote in message news:406F7344.A07AE133@sonic.net...

Uh... This was from an unidentified source posting to slashdot, on APRIL
FIRST.

sheesh cesar,
mb

-----------------------
cesar wrote:


So, if Jesus was a wandering monk among the homeless, he's going to get
busted.

IT'S STARTING, AMERICA! Start heading for Canada.

cesar

"Zak" <Zak@home.com> wrote in message



Maybe it was an April Fool's joke but sometimes there is subliminal truth in
jokes.

The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it gets
injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?

cesar

From what I see from the American people, they will embrace it whole
heartedly.
.
User: "jha_amin"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 04 Apr 2004 08:22:02 PM
Zak <Zak@home.com> wrote in message news:<mruv60p8994vuqatdadr9bm0pffm6tvea0@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:09:24 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


"MB" <mkb@sonic.net> wrote in message news:406F7344.A07AE133@sonic.net...

Uh... This was from an unidentified source posting to slashdot, on APRIL
FIRST.

sheesh cesar,
mb

-----------------------
cesar wrote:


So, if Jesus was a wandering monk among the homeless, he's going to get
busted.

IT'S STARTING, AMERICA! Start heading for Canada.

cesar

"Zak" <Zak@home.com> wrote in message



Maybe it was an April Fool's joke but sometimes there is subliminal truth in
jokes.

The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it gets
injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?

cesar


From what I see from the American people, they will embrace it whole
heartedly.

Yes.....most will. We are not accustomed to hardships of any kind.
On the other hand, i cannot accept that a "loving god" would send you
to hell for wanting to eat. The whole "god" thing kind of sucks the
way it is set up in the bible. I will take my chips with fish, thank
you. ;)
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 04 Apr 2004 08:48:37 PM
"jha_amin" <jha_amin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:33b7880.0404041722.5a37412e@posting.google.com...

Zak <Zak@home.com> wrote in message

news:<mruv60p8994vuqatdadr9bm0pffm6tvea0@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:09:24 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


"MB" <mkb@sonic.net> wrote in message

news:406F7344.A07AE133@sonic.net...

Uh... This was from an unidentified source posting to slashdot, on

APRIL

FIRST.

sheesh cesar,
mb

-----------------------
cesar wrote:


So, if Jesus was a wandering monk among the homeless, he's going to

get

busted.

IT'S STARTING, AMERICA! Start heading for Canada.

cesar

"Zak" <Zak@home.com> wrote in message



Maybe it was an April Fool's joke but sometimes there is subliminal

truth in

jokes.

The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it

gets

injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?

cesar


From what I see from the American people, they will embrace it whole
heartedly.



Yes.....most will. We are not accustomed to hardships of any kind.

On the other hand, i cannot accept that a "loving god" would send you
to hell for wanting to eat. The whole "god" thing kind of sucks the
way it is set up in the bible. I will take my chips with fish, thank
you. ;)

It does not say you are condemned to hell if you take the Mark. It says
that if you do, your tribulation will be full measure. That means that you
will survive for more misery, namely the torment by the Lake of Fire, the
oil fields that will be on fire that will darken the skies and kill plant
life and food. Those with the Chip will have nothing to eat except to
become cannibals. Then they will all drown when the oceans wash the cities
away. Then they will LIVE again for another SEASON of Reincarnation after
1,000 years.
Do you want that? Or would you rather break the vicious cycle of
reincarnation into flesh and be resurrected in Heaven into an incorruptible
body that will NEVER die or feel pain ever again?
The choice is not for God to make. The choice is given by God for YOU to
make. There are TWO Gods: The God of the Earth who claims your soul for
his domain, the Earth and the God of Heaven who wants to REDEEM your soul to
your rightful domain, the Kingdom of Heaven.
Which God will YOU serve? If you choose the God of Heaven, then Jesus
Christ will be your Shepherd to take you to safety, whether it be the
wilderness or Heaven. If you choose the God of the Earth, then Michael, the
Lord of Lords will destroy you along with the Abominations of the Beast when
he washes the earth clean and make a new earth for the survivors who went
into the wilderness. The poles will shift.
cesar
.

User: "Charly the Bastard"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 05 Apr 2004 09:02:34 AM
jha_amin wrote:

Zak <Zak@home.com> wrote in message news:<mruv60p8994vuqatdadr9bm0pffm6tvea0@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:09:24 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


"MB" <mkb@sonic.net> wrote in message news:406F7344.A07AE133@sonic.net...

Uh... This was from an unidentified source posting to slashdot, on APRIL
FIRST.

sheesh cesar,
mb

-----------------------
cesar wrote:


So, if Jesus was a wandering monk among the homeless, he's going to get
busted.

IT'S STARTING, AMERICA! Start heading for Canada.

cesar

"Zak" <Zak@home.com> wrote in message



Maybe it was an April Fool's joke but sometimes there is subliminal truth in
jokes.

The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it gets
injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?

cesar


From what I see from the American people, they will embrace it whole
heartedly.


Yes.....most will. We are not accustomed to hardships of any kind.

On the other hand, i cannot accept that a "loving god" would send you
to hell for wanting to eat. The whole "god" thing kind of sucks the
way it is set up in the bible. I will take my chips with fish, thank
you. ;)

Think again, this technology is already a Done Deal, has been for about twenty years.
Applied Digital has already been granted FDA approval for it's "Digital Angel" implant for
use in humans, Motorola has an implant in development called "Mondex" that will be the
replacement for currency worldwide, no doubt it will use the encapsuation method used by
Applied Digital to also breeze through FDA approval. The RFID is replacing the barcode in
all manufactured goods, the transition of Point of Sale technology is already underway in
the largest retailers, including Wal-Mart, who is pushing vendors to convert by refusal of
purchases from them if they don't 'get on board'. The Beast is a machine, an Atrificial
Intellegence. It has no soul, no mercy, no compassion, only the cold logic of the bottom
line. It is far better to die resisting this insidious Evil than to bow to it.
.
User: "jha_amin"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 05 Apr 2004 04:50:26 PM
Charly the ***** <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<40716703.472A63E@worldnet.att.net>...
.. The RFID is replacing the barcode in

all manufactured goods, the transition of Point of Sale technology is already underway in
the largest retailers, including Wal-Mart, who is pushing vendors to convert by refusal of
purchases from them if they don't 'get on board'. The Beast is a machine, an Atrificial
Intellegence.

Maybe, but it will be run by people.
It has no soul, no mercy, no compassion, only the cold logic of the
bottom

line. It is far better to die resisting this insidious Evil than to bow to it.

You have just described 99% of our corporate leaders.

If you were correct, i would have to agree wholeheartedly that death
would be the preferred exit strategy, but it closes too many options.
Evil is a matter of perception, without which good would not exist.
.
User: "jha_amin"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 11 Apr 2004 11:16:48 AM
"Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<1LJcc.17956$Dv2.10888@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
news:OBEcc.9542$Bk31.5787@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


Evil is a matter of perception, without which good would not exist.


Perhaps neither exists...


Could be that neither exist on the higher planes. (I bet evil does
not exist to the evil) Good without evil would be the sound of one
hand clapping. ;)


Read: A Geneology of Morals by Nietchze. There is no absolute thing as

Good

or Evil. They are "learned" and subject to societal interpretation, unlike
Truth which is Absolute.

However, there is Right and Wrong, which is Conscience, so under this
paradigm, "evil" is an error, an unrighteous act. Right/Wrong is not the
same as Good/Evil. Righteousness encompasses love, compassion and

justice.

"Good" is wholely subjective, arrogant and selfish. What's good for one

is

bad for another.


Very well said...

So when those who think or are told they are God's Chosen People, they

tend

to think they are Good and to hell with the others, who are Bad, by

decree,

to be discarded and trodded upon.


Again, well said.

Saved in the archives.

Just noticed this on another board. In a rather basic sense it
defines good vs evil.
btw, Cesar, apn doesn't kill its wounded. Hope you hang arond after
easter. ;)
EXCERPT: THE ENGINES OF CREATION (page 49)
.... As Richard Dawkins point out, gene "care only about their own
replication: the appear SELFISH.. but selfsh(ness) motive can
encourage cooperation. People seeking money and recognition for
themselves cooperate to build corporations that serve other people's
want. Selfish genes cooprate to build organisms that themselves often
cooperate. Even so, to imagine that genes automatically serve some
greater good (-of their chromosome - their cell - the body? - their
species) is to make a common mistake for an underlying cause. To
ignore the selfishness of replicator is to be lulled by a dangerous
illusion... at best, chain letters, spurious rumor, fashonable
lunacies, and other mental parasites harm people by wasting their
time. At worst they implant deadly misconceptions. the meme syetems
exploit human ignorance and vulnerability... if the package of ideas
has merits, then its infectiousness simply simply increaseases its
merit - and indeed, the best ethical teaching also teach us to teach
ethics. Good publication may entertain, enrich understanding, aid
judgment - and advertise gits subscriptions. Spreading useful meme
system is like offering useful seeds to a friend with a garden.... the
oldest and simplest mental immune system simply commands "believe the
old and reject the new". Something like this system kept tribes from
abandonning old, tested ways in favpr of wild new notions -such as the
notion that obeying alleged ghostly orders orders to destroy all
tribe's cattle and grain would somehow bring forth a miraculous
abondance of food and armies of ancestors to drive out foreigners....
Your body's immume system follows a similar rule: it generally accepts
all the cell types present in early life and rejects new types such as
potential cancer cells and invading bacteria, as foreign and
dangerous. This simple reject-the-new syetem once worked well, yet in
this era of organ transplantation it can kill... a rigid mental immune
system becomes a dangerous handicap... these principle show much about
what can and cannot hope to achieve, and they can help us focus our
efforts to shape the future. They also tell us muchh about what we can
and cannot foresee, because they guide the evolution not only of
hardware, but of knowledge itself....
.




User: "MB"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 04 Apr 2004 07:44:52 PM
Zak wrote:


The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it gets
injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?

cesar


From what I see from the American people, they will embrace it whole
heartedly.

There you go again with that big brush. America is the land of the
private militia, remember?
You are blinded by your hatred of America. If she were really evil, you
wouldn't know what hit you.
mb
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 04 Apr 2004 08:06:51 PM
"MB" <mkb@sonic.net> wrote in message news:4070AC04.98550D2C@sonic.net...

Zak wrote:


The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it

gets

injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?

cesar


From what I see from the American people, they will embrace it whole
heartedly.


There you go again with that big brush. America is the land of the
private militia, remember?
You are blinded by your hatred of America. If she were really evil, you
wouldn't know what hit you.

The People of America are NOT evil. In the most powerful democracy, they
are totally powerless. Much like the citizens of Rome were.
Don't think that it will be easy to say no to the Chip. Don't think that
you can run into the woods and hide there. There will be forest fires.
Don't think that you can drive. You will be stopped. You won't be able to
buy gas. Don't think that you can fly. You won't be able to buy a ticket
or pass the gates. Don't think that it will be a 'choice'. It will be the
LAW.
Church leaders will DECEIVE by pointing out that it is NOT a 'MARK' on the
hand because it is invisible and IN the hand and urge people to obey the
LAW. But the Latin version clearly states that it is a mark that is IN the
hand or forehead, not ON the hand or forehead. Those who volunteer will get
it in their hands. Those who get caught without will be forced to have it
in their foreheads and prostrate for it to be scanned. Those who had it in
the hand may have it switched to forehead if detected to be unpatriotic
against the Commander-in-Chief.
If after you receive the mark, you decide to run, the Chip may burn up and
explode under your skin and not kill but only hurt you like the sting of a
scorpion. Those Chips burn up when subjected to microwaves or electron
particles, just like those mystery Sicilian fires.
Just something to think about. In my case, I would refuse, refuse and
refuse even if they want to shoot me. Revelation says, if you are killed
for refusing it or as a consequence of escaping it, you go straight to
Heaven. No more reincarnation in the flesh. Freedom forever.
cesar
.
User: "MB"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 04 Apr 2004 11:26:55 PM

Don't think that it will be easy to say no to the Chip. Don't think that
you can run into the woods and hide there. There will be forest fires.
Don't think that you can drive. You will be stopped. You won't be able to
buy gas. Don't think that you can fly. You won't be able to buy a ticket
or pass the gates. Don't think that it will be a 'choice'. It will be the
LAW.

Always keep in mind that the "mark of the beast" may be symbolic. That
it may be a mark in the hands (works), and forehead (thoughts) of a man.
mb
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 05 Apr 2004 12:08:08 AM
"MB" <mkb@sonic.net> wrote in message news:4070E00F.19B06040@sonic.net...


Don't think that it will be easy to say no to the Chip. Don't think

that

you can run into the woods and hide there. There will be forest fires.
Don't think that you can drive. You will be stopped. You won't be able

to

buy gas. Don't think that you can fly. You won't be able to buy a

ticket

or pass the gates. Don't think that it will be a 'choice'. It will be

the

LAW.


Always keep in mind that the "mark of the beast" may be symbolic. That
it may be a mark in the hands (works), and forehead (thoughts) of a man.

mb

When the Chip is injected into your hand and then it is fried by microwave
for being a miscreant and replaced by one that is injected into your
forehead, it is not symbolic. It is REAL. You will be made into a BEAST to
be owned and CONTROLLED by your BEASTMASTER. No one can buy or sell, eat
or drink, travel or sleep without the RFID MicroChip, the marvel of modern
technology.
Think all you want that it is only symbolic. When the Government Vans stop
you at the corner for your ID implant under Martial Law after a city gets
nuked by "terrorists", what will that SYMBOLIZE to you?
Most people will think it's a GREAT idea until they realize they were made
into BEASTS, totally dependant on the State for both Thought and Substance.
But, forget about that for a moment. The Lord of Lords warns of Torment by
Fire and Brimstone and ultimately drowning by Tsunamis from the Oceans as
the Legacy for those with the Mark of the Beast.
Will you still go for it, thinking it's only "symbolic" and it doesn't
apply? Because if you accept the Chip, the State WILL take care of you
until the VERY END, so that you can come back again in another life for MORE
OF THE SAME.
cesar
.



User: "Zak"

Title: Re: RFID tags for homeless 05 Apr 2004 07:10:06 AM
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:44:52 -0700, MB <mkb@sonic.net> wrote:

Zak wrote:


The technology is already there. It's only a matter of time before it gets
injected. Will the everyday American embrace it or will there be mass
demonstrations against it?

cesar


From what I see from the American people, they will embrace it whole
heartedly.


There you go again with that big brush. America is the land of the
private militia, remember?
You are blinded by your hatred of America. If she were really evil, you
wouldn't know what hit you.

mb

We shall see.
.







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