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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "DaarkSyde"
Date: 02 Mar 2004 07:13:21 AM
Object: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved
RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them
Adapted from a letter sent to Henry Makow Ph.D.
Want to share an event with you, that we experienced this evening..
Dave had over $1000 dollars in his back pocket (in his wallet). New
twenties were the lion share of the bills in his wallet. We walked
into a truck stop/travel plaza and they have those new electronic
monitors that are supposed to say if you are stealing something. But
through every monitor, Dave set it off. He did not have anything to
purchase in his hands or pockets. After numerous times of setting off
these monitors, a person approached Dave with a 'wand' to swipe why he
was setting off the monitors.
Believe it or not, it was his 'wallet'. That is according to the
minimum wage employees working at the truck stop! We then walked
across the street to a store and purchased aluminum foil. We then
wrapped our cash in foil and went thru the same monitors. No monitor
went off.
We could have left it at that, but we have also paid attention to the
European Union and the 'rfid' tracking devices placed in their money,
and the blatant bragging of Walmart and many corporations of using
'rfid' electronics on every marketable item by the year 2005.
Dave and I have brainstormed the fact that most items can be
'microwaved' to fry the 'rfid' chip, thus elimination of tracking by
our government.
So we chose to 'microwave' our cash, over $1000 in twenties in a
stack, not spread out on a carasoul. Do you know what exploded on
American money?? The right eye of Andrew Jackson on the new twenty,
every bill was uniform in it's burning... Isnt that interesting?
Now we have to take all of our bills to the bank and have them
replaced, cause they are now 'burnt'.
We will now be wrapping all of our larger bills in foil on a regular
basis.
What we resent is the fact that the government or a corporation can
track our 'cash'. Credit purchases and check purchases have been
tracked for years, but cash was not traceble until now...
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User: "Cardinal Chunder"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 02 Mar 2004 04:09:19 PM
DaarkSyde wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them

Saw this on Slashdot.org and the consensus appeared to be that the guy
promoting this story was a conspiracy nut leaping to far fetched
conclusions when much more simple explanations were available.
.

User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 02 Mar 2004 04:42:06 PM
In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,
wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them

Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.
Woods
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User: "DaarkSyde"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 02 Mar 2004 05:32:49 PM
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:42:06 GMT,
(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,

wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them


Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.

Woods

Oh let me guess you work at the mint and inspect the bills do ya?
.
User: "Cardinal Chunder"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 03 Mar 2004 01:34:06 PM
DaarkSyde wrote:

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:42:06 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:


In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,

wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them


Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.

Woods



Oh let me guess you work at the mint and inspect the bills do ya?

It's like this - if there were RFIDs they would be easily detectable.
The fact that no one has ever found one or produced any evidence they
exist suggests they don't.
RFIDs are certainly a concern, but so far currency does not contain them
and if they did it would be easy to zap them.
It might be that the metallic particles in the inks in the $20 bill or
the strip would set off a metal detector in sufficient quantity but its
a very blunt tool and easily circumventable if one felt any need to do so.
.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 03 Mar 2004 07:09:14 PM
Cardinal Chunder <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message news:<c25bvd0j7q@enews1.newsguy.com>...

DaarkSyde wrote:

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:42:06 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:


In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,

wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them


Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.

Woods



Oh let me guess you work at the mint and inspect the bills do ya?


It's like this - if there were RFIDs they would be easily detectable.
The fact that no one has ever found one or produced any evidence they
exist suggests they don't.

RFIDs are certainly a concern, but so far currency does not contain them
and if they did it would be easy to zap them.

Real soon now
-A
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14473
THE MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT is set to begin production of a minute chip
which could find its way into cash, into passports and even into the
human body.
See Malaysian government buys radio frequency microchip technology.
The chips have radio frequency abilities and will measure only half a
square millimetre.
According to today's Taipei Times, FEC, which was bought by Malaysia
last year, is ready to begin production of the minute chips.
Currently the chips cost around ten cents but that price is likely to
fall, said the report.
Production runs may be in the billions once Malaysia's own fab starts
churning out the semiconductors. µ
.

User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 03 Mar 2004 02:33:07 PM
They are hidden behind the right eye.
That's why the eye explodes when the
bill is microwaved.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me

AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
.
User: "Cardinal Chunder"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 03 Mar 2004 05:07:31 PM
Saint Isidore of Laytonville wrote:

They are hidden behind the right eye.
That's why the eye explodes when the
bill is microwaved.

Then they should be easy enough to extract with a scalpel. Where are the
pictures demonstrating these alleged RFIDs? Where are the sites
demonstrating how to detect a $20 bill using an RFID reader etc.?
It's not like some of the more far fetched conspiracies (e.g. moon
hoax). This is something that should be easy to demonstrate by any
reasonably capable electronics engineer - the principles of RFID are
widely documented after all.
A more down to earth reason why the eye might catch fire first (assuming
it does since I don't intend to microwave any of my $20 bills) is
because the face is in the centre of the paper and in the centre of the
microwave and there is enough ink concentrated there to scorch the paper.
.



User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 03 Mar 2004 06:59:25 PM
In article <4c6a409hsuvl58eaq246gjhj708sidlu4b@4ax.com>,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:42:06 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,

wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them


Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.

Woods


Oh let me guess you work at the mint and inspect the bills do ya?

Uh, no .... I know enough about the current state of technology wrt rfid to
realize that they're lots thicker than any paper currency.
Woods
.
User: "DaarkSyde"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 04 Mar 2004 07:27:08 AM
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:59:25 GMT,
(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <4c6a409hsuvl58eaq246gjhj708sidlu4b@4ax.com>,

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:42:06 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,

wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them


Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.

Woods


Oh let me guess you work at the mint and inspect the bills do ya?


Uh, no .... I know enough about the current state of technology wrt rfid to
realize that they're lots thicker than any paper currency.

Woods

Ever heard of Black technology? Top secret projects? Are you
connected to any of this? Well how do you know what is in
developement? I guess if it's not in the daily paper it can't be true
eh? Hahahahah, so tell us enlightened one.
.
User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 04 Mar 2004 07:03:35 PM
DaarkSyde <
> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:59:25 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <4c6a409hsuvl58eaq246gjhj708sidlu4b@4ax.com>,

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:42:06 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,

wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them


Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.

Woods


Oh let me guess you work at the mint and inspect the bills do ya?


Uh, no .... I know enough about the current state of technology wrt rfid to
realize that they're lots thicker than any paper currency.

Woods


Ever heard of Black technology?

Nope. The bongo drum? heh heh heh
Grantland
.
User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 04 Mar 2004 07:39:43 PM

Grantland wrote:

Ever heard of Black technology?

Nope.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
HO HO HO! GOOD ONE!!!

The bongo drum? heh heh heh

February is "Black Technology Month" here in the US. They have been
force-feeding the kids that crap all month when they could have done it
in just one day. The pamphlet/flyer is rather small, you see.

Grantland

.
User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 05 Mar 2004 07:13:14 AM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

Grantland wrote:



Ever heard of Black technology?


Nope.


LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

HO HO HO! GOOD ONE!!!

The bongo drum? heh heh heh


February is "Black Technology Month" here in the US. They have been
force-feeding the kids that crap all month when they could have done it
in just one day. The pamphlet/flyer is rather small, you see.

A Very Important Fraction
by Allan Callahan
December 1989
We have all heard the term "racial equality" till it is running out of
our ears. Advocate say there are no differences between Whites and
Blacks except color; although, when pressed, some "I admit a few other
physical differences, but say they are not important. Nor do they want
to admit any mental differences. Especially they do not want to admit
these. And even if you could get them to admit them, they would again
say the differences are small and thus unimportant. They are wrong;
dead wrong. Completely, absolutely, wholly, massively, entirely and
utterly wrong. The differences may be small, percentage-wise, but they
are certainly not unimportant.
For proof, let us begin with apes. How different are they from humans?
Scientists have long known that, bone for bone, organ for organ, and
muscle for muscle, they are identical to us. Then, after the discovery
of DNA, it was found that the DNA of the two African great apes,
chimpanzees and gorillas, differs from ours by only 1%. In other
words, the whole genetic makeup of these apes and humans only varies
by this small fraction.
Would you say that this 1% is important? Who would deny it? As far as
I know, even the most rabid race-mixers don't advocate that we mate
with apes, yet they say it is just jim-dandy to do so with negroes.
They don't want a bunch of half-apes running around loose, but look
with favor upon half-niggers. Whenever they see a black buck squiring
his white wife and mulatto children around town, it brings smiles to
their faces.
I have nothing against apes, but do not think they should brought into
White society and treated as equals. I would have nothing against
negroes either, if we weren't biologically threatened by them, but we
are. The cause lies in their genes. The more primitive black genes are
dominant over white genes (later arrivals in the chain of evolution)
by a ratio of 4 to 1. Thus, when we mate with them we only destroy
ourselves. Black-white unions produce only coloreds; no whites. Ape
genes are even more dominant, but apes are not trying to push
themselves into our society, while Blacks are.
If there is only a 1% genetic difference between apes and humans, how
much difference is there between negroes and whites? Maybe about 1/2
of 1%. Is this 1/2 of a percentage point important? You bet it is! It
is of profound importance. The most crucial difference between Whites
and Blacks lies in their brains. Among the various types of negroes
there is a noteworthy spread in brain size, with the average being
significantly smaller than the white average. But maybe more important
than this difference in size is the difference in the makeup in the
brains of the two races. The negro brain is more brutal than the
white, and thus nearer the ape brain. It has less complex
convolutions, and does not come up to the white standard in the
prefrontal cortex area either. Here it is inferior in seven out of
eight areas (only in the visuo-sensory area is it equal). The
thickness of both infra and supragranular layers is thinner in the
brains of blacks, and the thinner the layers, the more it denotes
inferior intelligence.
The endocrine glands give out immensely important secretions which
affect motivation, drive and ambition, and here too, Whites and Blacks
differ.
For decades now there has been a big push to "educate" the negro; to
supposedly bring him up to our level. There has been no attempt to do
the same with apes. Why not? Is it because apes are boxed in by their
genes, but not negroes? Have the egalitarians repealed the laws of
heredity in regard to the latter?
Apes are "intelligent," as we generally understand the term, and they
can be educated, up to a point. They are surprisingly human-like. It
has been proven that an ape can be taught to communicate with humans
by using American Sign Language (which is used by the deaf) or by
pushing buttons on a special machine which registers his feelings. He
can indicate if he is happy or sad, or wants this or that. He can
master quite a few basic concepts, and "chat" about them. He is able
to make statements and ask questions. He can argue, tease, joke and,
yes, even lie.
Chimpanzees are the smartest of all apes (even apes aren't all equal),
and are said to have, in some ways, the intelligence of a 5-year-old
child. But they never get past this plateau, and everyone (or almost
everyone) knows that it is not because of poor diet or the fact that
they don't get to go to school with white children. No, chimps are
limited by their heredity, as are all other apes, and indeed all
living creatures.
Chimps can be taught to do simple human tasks, but few people would
expect them to get much done if they were left by themselves, very
long, unsupervised. They may differ from humans only 1% genetically,
but this fraction is very important indeed.
The negro is considered human, although some think he should be put
into another class or category by himself. At any rate, if 1% can be
of profound importance, so can 1/2 of 1%, or even less. Left to
themselves, Blacks cannot create or maintain a High Culture. Their
so-called "civilizations" in Africa, such as those at Benin, Melle,
Ashanti and Songhay, had very little going for them. They had a few
very minor achievements in language and government, and exhibited a
little ability in handicrafts, but that was about it. They showed no
ability in writing, science, architecture, transportation, philosophy,
education, economics, literature, communications, music, religion,
agriculture, art, the military or mechanical improvements. In this
respect you would think they were 99% genetically removed from Whites,
instead of 1/2 of 1%. So again, we see how important this small
fraction is. Furthermore, their "civilizations" were permeated with
senseless and revolting cruelties, and were so primitive that they
should be referred to as "civilizations" at all, but only primitive
cultures.
Humans and apes are so genetically close that they can mate and
produce offspring. An old photo of one, in the possession of the
Anthropological Institute of London, shows a creature which looks like
a monstrosity, being very much more ape-like than human. Few if any
would advocate such cross-breeding, but many promote black-white
crossings. However, if race-mixing Whites can ignore the maybe 1/2 of
1% difference between themselves and Blacks, there would not be much
logic for them to use the other 1/2 of 1% difference between Blacks
and apes as an excuse for not mating with the latter, also.
How does such a thing grab you? Imagine a batch of half-apes sitting
on the Supreme Court. Or picture a near-ape as president of the United
States. Think what it would be like to have a hairy ape-like creature
as a grandchild. Then try to figure out how long our civilization
would last if all the "people" in our land resembled apes more than
humans. Wouldn't this be a fitting end for an egalitarian society?
Some will argue that while some negroes are mentally superior to some
Whites, apes are not superior to either. Not true. There are
exceptions. What about mental retardation? There are some pitiful
cases, both white and negro (and, incidentally, the latter have a
higher rate of retardation than the former) who are so low on the
scale of idiocy that they can do nothing but lie all days and croak
like frogs. Wouldn't an ape be superior to one of these? Of course.
It will also be argued that we shouldn't mate with apes because they
are animals; but so are we. Everything can be broken down into three
categories: plant, animal, and mineral. We fall into the animal
category, along with apes. Apes are not human, but all we need to do
is broaden the "human" category to include them. There's only 1%
difference, remember? Ape-race; human-race; does it matter? We are
told that "race isn't important," so if this is true, then it
shouldn't be important if man mongrelizes himself down into a
half-ape. All in the name of "brotherhood," of course.
If the destruction of the races through mongrelization is to be
avoided, the only answer is geographical separation. This can't be
achieved quickly, but it can be done in time; the only thing lacking
is the will. And really, this should suit Blacks, if we can believe
what they say. They are always accusing us of discrimination, of
holding them down, of not giving them a fair shake, of exploiting
them; the list is long. If these charges actually represent their true
feeling, why, then, do they want to integrate with us? You would think
they would want to get as far away from white people as possible.
To merge the black gene pool in with the white would be a monumental
crime against nature, and would wipe out an estimated 200,000 years of
evolutionary progress. But many Whites are naive on this point,
thinking we can have integration without eventual race destruction.
This would be like a parent saying to his child, "You can play with
the boy next door all you want to; just don't get friendly with him."
From - http://www.thirdworldplanet.com
.
User: "The CO"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 05 Mar 2004 11:54:39 PM
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40487ca3.258444062@ct-news.iafrica.com...

tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

<Much Afrikaaner racial superiority crap deleted>

Humans and apes are so genetically close that they can mate and
produce offspring.

Eh? References please. Horses and donkeys have significantly less than 1%
different DNA, and their offspring are infertile. I've never seen any text
that
indicated human/ape (gorilla? chimp? orangutan?) cross species fertilisation
was possible *at all*. Prove it or *sit down and shut up*

An old photo of one, in the possession of the
Anthropological Institute of London, shows a creature which looks like
a monstrosity, being very much more ape-like than human.

But did it come from such a union? What proofs? If it's 19th century it
was
probably a hoax, (remember 'Piltdown Man'?) And no I'm not just going
to take your word for it, so your mission is to *prove*:
1) That interspecies impregnation between humans and at least one species of
ape is
a demonstrated fact.
2) That such offspring have been born.
Negroes or coloureds are counted as human for the purposes of this exercise.
If your claim of their nearer relationship to the ape for them is valid then
it's logical
to assume that they would be more likely to be able to fertilise each other
than a
white would right? (Leave out the mechanics - I don't think I really want
to know
how a Zulu or Matabele might go about seducing a Chimpanzee.)
Supply dates and locations and documented proofs of these claims.
Take your time, I have the rest of my life.
(Or yours)
Oh, if you can't do it, just post a retraction.
<snip>

if race-mixing Whites can ignore the maybe 1/2 of
1% difference between themselves and Blacks,

Ahem. You'll find the DNA difference between white and black, or indeed any
other colour/race group is *significantly* less than half of one percent, in
fact it's
of the same level as normal genetic variation *within* racial groups. It's
just another minor
trait, like colour in cats, or do you think a black cat is .5% genetically
different from
a white one?
You are attempting to lump blacks in with apes based on prejudice when you
could with
equal fairness lump whites in with apes and make the same statement. What
skin colour
does an Orangutan have anyway? (Hint: not black)

there would not be much
logic for them to use the other 1/2 of 1% difference between Blacks
and apes as an excuse for not mating with the latter, also.

Except that it's nothing like that big a difference mynheer.

How does such a thing grab you? Imagine a batch of half-apes sitting
on the Supreme Court. Or picture a near-ape as president of the United
States. Think what it would be like to have a hairy ape-like creature
as a grandchild. Then try to figure out how long our civilization
would last if all the "people" in our land resembled apes more than
humans. Wouldn't this be a fitting end for an egalitarian society?

Straw man. Irrelevant to any differences between blacks and whites (or
indeed any other Homo Sapiens
variant.) Skin colour is not a determinent for intellect, behaviour or
anything other than skin colour. Get over it.
If in doubt consult any breeder of animals that has different colours. Cats
for instance.
And go study some genetics for heavens sake, your differential DNA % between
black and white are beyond ridiculous.

Some will argue that while some negroes are mentally superior to some
Whites,

Doubtless, and the reverse is also true. What's your point?

apes are not superior to either. Not true.

Oh?

There are exceptions. What about mental retardation? There are some pitiful
cases, both white and negro (and, incidentally, the latter have a
higher rate of retardation than the former) who are so low on the
scale of idiocy that they can do nothing but lie all days and croak
like frogs. Wouldn't an ape be superior to one of these? Of course.

Sports and other genetic abberrations are not a valid basis for genetic
superiority
comparisons. That a 'normal' ape might be mentally superior to a human born
with
Downs or other genetic abberrations is irrelevant. You compare the mean of
each
with the other or do you not understand normal distribution in statistical
analysis of
data in addtion to not understanding basic genetics?

It will also be argued that we shouldn't mate with apes because they
are animals;

Not my personal interest. Bestiality is illegal just about everywhere but
there are
always some that find it kinky instead of repugnant.
Finding an ape prepared to hold still might be uh, 'interesting' to say the
least. Bear in
mind that humans have the largest penis in the primate kingdom, would you
really like
to upset a 500lb gorilla by painfully proving it to her?
What's your point?

but so are we. Everything can be broken down into three
categories: plant, animal, and mineral. We fall into the animal
category, along with apes. Apes are not human, but all we need to do
is broaden the "human" category to include them.

Except we are *sentient* and they aren't, or more correctly, they do not
have anything like the
*level* of sentience that we do.

There's only 1% difference, remember? Ape-race; human-race; does it

matter?
Does to me. 1% is actually a *lot* in genetics.

We are told that "race isn't important," so if this is true, then it
shouldn't be important if man mongrelizes himself down into a
half-ape. All in the name of "brotherhood," of course.

*****. Racial differences are *not* semantically or genetically anything
like
*species* differences. Or do you think dogs and cats are just different
races too?
There is nothing to suggest that a negro is 'half ape' any more than you
are.
Mind you, considering the level of intelligence displayed by your ignorance
of
genetics and various other indicators of intelligence in your case it might
be true.
<remainder of White Superiority propaganda snipped>
BTW I'm from good Aryan stock, I just know the difference between people
and apes, an ability you apparently lack.
The CO
.
User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 06 Mar 2004 12:35:59 AM
"The CO" <the_xo@yahoo.com.au> wrote:


"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40487ca3.258444062@ct-news.iafrica.com...

tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:


<Much Afrikaaner racial superiority crap deleted>

Humans and apes are so genetically close that they can mate and
produce offspring.


Eh? References please. Horses and donkeys have significantly less than 1%
different DNA, and their offspring are infertile. I've never seen any text
that
indicated human/ape (gorilla? chimp? orangutan?) cross species fertilisation
was possible *at all*. Prove it or *sit down and shut up*

I offer as empirical evidence.. (wait for it). KENNETH KAUNDA!


An old photo of one, in the possession of the
Anthropological Institute of London, shows a creature which looks like
a monstrosity, being very much more ape-like than human.


But did it come from such a union? What proofs? If it's 19th century it
was
probably a hoax, (remember 'Piltdown Man'?) And no I'm not just going
to take your word for it, so your mission is to *prove*:
1) That interspecies impregnation between humans and at least one species of
ape is
a demonstrated fact.
2) That such offspring have been born.

KENNETH KAUNDA, IDI AMIN..


Negroes or coloureds are counted as human for the purposes of this exercise.
If your claim of their nearer relationship to the ape for them is valid then
it's logical
to assume that they would be more likely to be able to fertilise each other
than a
white would right? (Leave out the mechanics - I don't think I really want
to know
how a Zulu or Matabele might go about seducing a Chimpanzee.)

Supply dates and locations and documented proofs of these claims.
Take your time, I have the rest of my life.
(Or yours)
Oh, if you can't do it, just post a retraction.

See above.


<snip>

if race-mixing Whites can ignore the maybe 1/2 of
1% difference between themselves and Blacks,


Ahem. You'll find the DNA difference between white and black, or indeed any
other colour/race group is *significantly* less than half of one percent, in
fact it's
of the same level as normal genetic variation *within* racial groups. It's
just another minor
trait, like colour in cats, or do you think a black cat is .5% genetically
different from
a white one?

I'm afraid you are completely wrong there, sport. Tell me, when h
sapiens evolved into h sapiens sapiens 200k years ago (some say only
50k)... what happened to h sapiens? Did he vanish? No? Yes, you got
it. He stayed in the jungle. H sapiens has a mean iq of 70 - fact.
Google African iq to verify.


You are attempting to lump blacks in with apes based on prejudice when you
could with
equal fairness lump whites in with apes and make the same statement. What
skin colour
does an Orangutan have anyway? (Hint: not black)

Orangutan is an unrelated side-branch. Chimps and gorillas are indeed
black, as was h sapiens sapiens before vitamin-d deficiency (rickets)
caused by weak sun weeded out the melanin over thousands of years..


there would not be much
logic for them to use the other 1/2 of 1% difference between Blacks
and apes as an excuse for not mating with the latter, also.


Except that it's nothing like that big a difference mynheer.

Oh yes it is.


How does such a thing grab you? Imagine a batch of half-apes sitting
on the Supreme Court. Or picture a near-ape as president of the United
States. Think what it would be like to have a hairy ape-like creature
as a grandchild. Then try to figure out how long our civilization
would last if all the "people" in our land resembled apes more than
humans. Wouldn't this be a fitting end for an egalitarian society?


Straw man. Irrelevant to any differences between blacks and whites (or
indeed any other Homo Sapiens
variant.) Skin colour is not a determinent for intellect, behaviour or
anything other than skin colour. Get over it.
If in doubt consult any breeder of animals that has different colours. Cats
for instance.
And go study some genetics for heavens sake, your differential DNA % between
black and white are beyond ridiculous.

Hysteria cannot change the facts.


Some will argue that while some negroes are mentally superior to some
Whites,


Doubtless, and the reverse is also true. What's your point?

apes are not superior to either. Not true.


Oh?

There are exceptions. What about mental retardation? There are some pitiful
cases, both white and negro (and, incidentally, the latter have a
higher rate of retardation than the former) who are so low on the
scale of idiocy that they can do nothing but lie all days and croak
like frogs. Wouldn't an ape be superior to one of these? Of course.


Sports and other genetic abberrations are not a valid basis for genetic
superiority
comparisons. That a 'normal' ape might be mentally superior to a human born
with
Downs or other genetic abberrations is irrelevant. You compare the mean of
each
with the other or do you not understand normal distribution in statistical
analysis of
data in addtion to not understanding basic genetics?

I understand these things very well.


It will also be argued that we shouldn't mate with apes because they
are animals;


Not my personal interest. Bestiality is illegal just about everywhere but
there are
always some that find it kinky instead of repugnant.
Finding an ape prepared to hold still might be uh, 'interesting' to say the
least. Bear in
mind that humans have the largest penis in the primate kingdom, would you
really like
to upset a 500lb gorilla by painfully proving it to her?
What's your point?

You're babbling.
<flushed>
Grantland
.
User: "The CO"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 06 Mar 2004 07:28:48 PM
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40496dce.320182528@ct-news.iafrica.com...

"The CO" <the_xo@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40487ca3.258444062@ct-news.iafrica.com...

tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:


<Much Afrikaaner racial superiority crap deleted>

Humans and apes are so genetically close that they can mate and
produce offspring.


Eh? References please. Horses and donkeys have significantly less than

1%

different DNA, and their offspring are infertile. I've never seen any

text

that
indicated human/ape (gorilla? chimp? orangutan?) cross species

fertilisation

was possible *at all*. Prove it or *sit down and shut up*


I offer as empirical evidence.. (wait for it). KENNETH KAUNDA!

Ok, I'll translate that as "It was ***** I made up".
In short, it never happened, but it sounded good so you tossed it in
and hoped no one would notice.

KENNETH KAUNDA, IDI AMIN..

As above. Made up *****. I'll not argue that Amin was a nutcase but no
more
or less so than some whites. You get whackos in all colours.

Ahem. You'll find the DNA difference between white and black, or indeed

any

other colour/race group is *significantly* less than half of one percent,

in

fact it's
of the same level as normal genetic variation *within* racial groups.

It's

just another minor
trait, like colour in cats, or do you think a black cat is .5%

genetically

different from
a white one?

I'm afraid you are completely wrong there, sport. Tell me, when h
sapiens evolved into h sapiens sapiens 200k years ago (some say only
50k)... what happened to h sapiens? Did he vanish? No? Yes, you got
it. He stayed in the jungle.

Evolution goes back rather further than that and it rather more complex than
a simple
chain of descent. It's fairly well established that (for instance)
Neandertal man is not in the direct
line of descent to modern man, more of a cousin.

H sapiens has a mean iq of 70 - fact.
Google African iq to verify.

No, black Africans have a mean IQ of 70, but this isn't all or even mostly
due to
their genetic makeup. IQ verifys nothing. IQ is a function of both natural
capacity for learning AND
education, environment etc. Albert Einstein would have had an IQ of 70 if
he had been painted black and raised in an African township. There is no
objective way to measure the *potentia;* IQ of people from different
cultural and educational
backgrounds.
You are still trying to convince me that the African Negro is a different
*species*
where the reality is that it's merely a racial variation of the same
species.
Separate species are not mutually fertile, even close relatives like some of
the
equines can't produce fertile offspring. (Mules etc)

You are attempting to lump blacks in with apes based on prejudice when

you

could with
equal fairness lump whites in with apes and make the same statement.

What

skin colour
does an Orangutan have anyway? (Hint: not black)

Orangutan is an unrelated side-branch.

Of what? Ape?

Chimps and gorillas are indeed
black,

Oh? Have a close look at the fell (the skin under the body hair) of a
chimp. It's not black.
All other things aside, it's *still* irrelevant as they are not of our
species and you already
admitted you lied about them being mutually fertile with a human of any
race.

as was h sapiens sapiens before vitamin-d deficiency (rickets)
caused by weak sun weeded out the melanin over thousands of years..

Actually I understand that is only one of several theories about
how light skinned races came about. The jury is still out on that one.

there would not be much
logic for them to use the other 1/2 of 1% difference between Blacks
and apes as an excuse for not mating with the latter, also.


Except that it's nothing like that big a difference mynheer.


Oh yes it is.

Then present your evidence please.
<snip>

Hysteria cannot change the facts.

Facts?
Listened to yourself lately? You already admitted that the nonsense about
an ape-human
hybrid was made up *****, but I'm expected to believe everything else?
You can't mix
facts and fiction, it destroys any credibility you might have.

That a 'normal' ape might be mentally superior to a human born
with
Downs or other genetic abberrations is irrelevant. You compare the mean

of

each
with the other or do you not understand normal distribution in

statistical

analysis of
data in addtion to not understanding basic genetics?


I understand these things very well.

Unfortunately your statements directly contradict your claim of an
understanding
by attempting to use a person with a genetic disorder from well below the
mean of the bell
curve as an example of similarity in intellect with an individual from above
the mean of the bell curve in a different species. This is an invalid
comparison.

It will also be argued that we shouldn't mate with apes because they
are animals;


Not my personal interest. Bestiality is illegal just about everywhere

but

there are
always some that find it kinky instead of repugnant.
Finding an ape prepared to hold still might be uh, 'interesting' to say

the

least. Bear in
mind that humans have the largest penis in the primate kingdom, would you
really like
to upset a 500lb gorilla by painfully proving it to her?
What's your point?


You're babbling.

This from someone that makes up ***** about an ape-human hybrid and tries
to
bury it in half facts about racial differences. *YOU* were/are babbling, I
merely demonstrated
that it was so.

<flushed>

I'd translate that as "I can't answer coherently because my opinions are
***** instead of science."
Dr. Goebels would be disappointed in you.
The CO
.
User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 07 Mar 2004 10:56:56 AM
"The CO" <the_xo@yahoo.com.au> wrote:


"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote :

"The CO" <the_xo@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote:

tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:


<Much Afrikaaner racial superiority crap deleted>

Humans and apes are so genetically close that they can mate and
produce offspring.


Eh? References please. Horses and donkeys have significantly less than

1%

different DNA, and their offspring are infertile. I've never seen any

text

that
indicated human/ape (gorilla? chimp? orangutan?) cross species

fertilisation

was possible *at all*. Prove it or *sit down and shut up*


I offer as empirical evidence.. (wait for it). KENNETH KAUNDA!


Ok, I'll translate that as "It was ***** I made up".
In short, it never happened, but it sounded good so you tossed it in
and hoped no one would notice.

Well, I didn't write the article.. but I wonder. .


KENNETH KAUNDA, IDI AMIN..


As above. Made up *****. I'll not argue that Amin was a nutcase but no
more
or less so than some whites. You get whackos in all colours.

Ahem. You'll find the DNA difference between white and black, or indeed

any

other colour/race group is *significantly* less than half of one percent,

in

fact it's
of the same level as normal genetic variation *within* racial groups.

It's

just another minor
trait, like colour in cats, or do you think a black cat is .5%

genetically

different from
a white one?


I'm afraid you are completely wrong there, sport. Tell me, when h
sapiens evolved into h sapiens sapiens 200k years ago (some say only
50k)... what happened to h sapiens? Did he vanish? No? Yes, you got
it. He stayed in the jungle.


Evolution goes back rather further than that and it rather more complex than
a simple
chain of descent. It's fairly well established that (for instance)
Neandertal man is not in the direct
line of descent to modern man, more of a cousin.

Complete non-sequitur. Neandertal, btw, derives from an earlier wave
of h erectus.


H sapiens has a mean iq of 70 - fact.
Google African iq to verify.


No, black Africans have a mean IQ of 70, but this isn't all or even mostly
due to
their genetic makeup.

Science disagrees with you. Sorry.

IQ verifys nothing. IQ is a function of both natural
capacity for learning AND
education, environment etc. Albert Einstein would have had an IQ of 70 if
he had been painted black and raised in an African township. There is no
objective way to measure the *potentia;* IQ of people from different
cultural and educational
backgrounds.

Nope.


You are still trying to convince me that the African Negro is a different
*species*
where the reality is that it's merely a racial variation of the same
species.
Separate species are not mutually fertile, even close relatives like some of
the
equines can't produce fertile offspring. (Mules etc)

There is mental deficiency of two full standard deviatations. Two
full standard deviatations.
<snip further irrelevant material>
Grantland
.
User: "The CO"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 07 Mar 2004 04:14:44 PM
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:404b50d5.16510841@ct-news.iafrica.com...

"The CO" <the_xo@yahoo.com.au> wrote:


"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote :


"The CO" <the_xo@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote:

I offer as empirical evidence.. (wait for it). KENNETH KAUNDA!


Ok, I'll translate that as "It was ***** I made up".
In short, it never happened, but it sounded good so you tossed it in
and hoped no one would notice.


Well, I didn't write the article.. but I wonder. .

Mmm, well, I'm quite sure it's false.

Evolution goes back rather further than that and it rather more complex

than

a simple
chain of descent. It's fairly well established that (for instance)
Neandertal man is not in the direct
line of descent to modern man, more of a cousin.


Complete non-sequitur. Neandertal, btw, derives from an earlier wave
of h erectus.

I'm aware of that. If you want to claim that as being non-sequitur what
does that
make the basis of your original post claiming ape-human hybrids as being
possible?

H sapiens has a mean iq of 70 - fact.
Google African iq to verify.


No, black Africans have a mean IQ of 70, but this isn't all or even

mostly

due to their genetic makeup.


Science disagrees with you. Sorry.

Again, please post a reference or two. Particularly any that try and
attribute
IQ as a purely genetic predisposition.

IQ verifys nothing. IQ is a function of both natural
capacity for learning AND
education, environment etc. Albert Einstein would have had an IQ of 70

if

he had been painted black and raised in an African township. There is no
objective way to measure the *potentia;* IQ of people from different
cultural and educational
backgrounds.


Nope.

Then post references to support your claim.

You are still trying to convince me that the African Negro is a different
*species*
where the reality is that it's merely a racial variation of the same
species.
Separate species are not mutually fertile, even close relatives like some

of

the
equines can't produce fertile offspring. (Mules etc)

There is mental deficiency of two full standard deviatations. Two
full standard deviatations.

Does that make them a different species? (This is the thrust of your
original post)
or does it indicate something environmental.
I'm genuinely interested if you have a reference or two.
For instance how do you explain African negros raised elsewhere that have
IQ's in the normal or better range?

<snip further irrelevant material>

The CO
.





User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 05 Mar 2004 10:17:29 PM
Good article and an even greater site.
http://www.thirdworldplanet.com
And from that site, I am taking the below, classic gem of an ebonics
example with me.
A "*****" is a woman under 5 ft. tall weighing more than 150 lbs, the
arrival of which is a precursor to Male minority infestation.
LOL!
sUSAn
.

User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 05 Mar 2004 11:11:43 AM
I understand that Snoop Doggie Dog is converting to Judism. I always thought
he was jewish all along!
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me

AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 04 Mar 2004 06:19:07 PM
In article <lgbe40524q40ritspr8flrm3g09hgq091p@4ax.com>,
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:59:25 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <4c6a409hsuvl58eaq246gjhj708sidlu4b@4ax.com>,

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:42:06 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <a229401f90n7f3p95i047qq5b6vng48rgk@4ax.com>,

wrote:

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them


Urban myth. There are no rfid tags in/on any US currency.

Woods


Oh let me guess you work at the mint and inspect the bills do ya?


Uh, no .... I know enough about the current state of technology wrt rfid to
realize that they're lots thicker than any paper currency.

Woods


Ever heard of Black technology? Top secret projects? Are you
connected to any of this? Well how do you know what is in
developement? I guess if it's not in the daily paper it can't be true
eh? Hahahahah, so tell us enlightened one.

Cutting edge and/or top secret technology costs more than the $20 bill you seem
to think they're in.
Woods
.



User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 02 Mar 2004 07:52:41 PM
It's true! I saw the eyes blow up myself.
You just have to set the microwave on high for
4 minutes.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me

AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
.



User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 02 Mar 2004 08:15:22 PM
There is a strip with silver leaf lettering on the inside of currency
that will definitely spark and ignite if placed inside the microwave.
It is only on 20's and larger, I believe. I've been amazing people for
years now when I show them the strip and how I can remove it from the
bill without damaging it.
It is so large amounts of cash can be detected with metal detectors.
sUSAn
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 02 Mar 2004 08:57:17 PM
"sUSAn B Anthony" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5244-40453FBA-541@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...

There is a strip with silver leaf lettering on the inside of currency
that will definitely spark and ignite if placed inside the microwave.

It is only on 20's and larger, I believe. I've been amazing people for
years now when I show them the strip and how I can remove it from the
bill without damaging it.

It is so large amounts of cash can be detected with metal detectors.


So that those who think they can avoid the Microchip by using paper money
can get caught and the bills microwaved to be destroyed. Ingenious! Start
hording those old "In God We Trust" $1 bills.
cesar
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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 03 Mar 2004 07:01:18 PM
In article <5244-40453FBA-541@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

There is a strip with silver leaf lettering on the inside of currency
that will definitely spark and ignite if placed inside the microwave.

It is only on 20's and larger, I believe. I've been amazing people for
years now when I show them the strip and how I can remove it from the
bill without damaging it.

It is so large amounts of cash can be detected with metal detectors.

It also helps to identify counterfeit money. (But it doesn't put out any RF
radiation).
Woods
.
User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville"

Title: Re: RFID tags in US bills explode when microwaved 03 Mar 2004 07:05:08 PM
They use Telurian alien technology to implant the chip in the bill.
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