-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Our Great President has just signed into law the
long-awaited "Unborn Victims of Violence Act" of
Congress. Excellent! This means that "pro-killer"
abortion advocates had better run and hide their
pointed little Anti-Xian heads in shame, because
the law of the land now favors what God's immuta-
ble Law clearly states to be fruitful & multiply!
I really like this law because Scott Peterson is
obviously guilty of murdering his wife and child,
so his scumbag criminal defense attorney doesn't
dare draw further attention to his guilty client
such that the Act of Congress signed into law by
President Bush is named after Peterson's victims!
What's Garagos gonna say? "Your honor, my client
can't get a fair trial anywhere in the US, since
Congress--and the President of the United States
of America--enacted this 'Laci & Conner' law, so
all charges against my irrefutably guilty client
should be dismissed, on the grounds of his guilt.
No jury on Earth could assume my guilty client's
innocence until proven guilty, but rather see it
as automatically guilty as will be proved guilty
in a court of law. My client hasn't got a prayer!"
And Roe vs Wade is history too, since any unborn
child is now protected by federal law, Oh my God!
Now we can't even have first trimester abortions,
but will have to teach our children abstinence &
responsibility instead of decadence & irresponsi-
bility like we've routinely done in the past. If
abortions are outlawed, only outlaws will have a-
bortions, with rates of sexual promiscuity among
adolescents quickly plummeting. This spells "dis-
aster" for the Hollywood, cable & satellite tele-
vision smut machine, and will make the Hollywood
heathen leftist liberal communists look very bad,
even though they always have looked like dogshit.
Made in America,
Daniel Joseph Min
________________________________________________________
PS be sure to bookmark and visit these websites today:
http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly
http://www.foxnews.com/hannityandcolmes
*Vietnam Veterans Against Commie Kerry:
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm
*Commie Kerry's Growing Popularity Among Terrorists:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=355d108a.0403141555.6b7b8ed6@posting.google.com
*News Commentary on Commie Kerry's "Lily-White *****"!
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=N3J9NXKO38058.1687037037@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Commentary on Mel Gibson's "Passion":
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OEDGX97538042.3620486111@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Last Word on Homosexual Marriage & Armageddon:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=T3FAE1MR38050.2393518519@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Commentary on Homosexual Marriage:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BKBRT6L738043.9300115741@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Newsgroup-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5YTK57VH37948.6355092593@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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"Vote Republican!" <vote.republican@us.gov.rules.the.world> wrote in message
news:3GNHOAET38079.0005671296@Gilgamesh-Frog.org...
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Our Great President has just signed into law the
long-awaited "Unborn Victims of Violence Act" of
Congress. Excellent! This means that "pro-killer"
abortion advocates
Have lost NOTHING, fucktard. Abortion is legal, ergo, NOT A CRIME.
<plonk>
-*MORT*-
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| User: "ocean" |
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02 Apr 2004 12:09:28 AM |
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Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a dear and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all that.
I am pro-choice, but I am also pro-hunting if you want to shoot an animal
for food.
Nature isn't always pretty.
+ocean+
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| User: "Yardpilot" |
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02 Apr 2004 12:36:01 AM |
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"ocean" <ocean@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ss7bc.994$Tw6.601@chiapp18.algx.net...
Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a dear and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all that.
Nah, that's just one little fringe. About all you can say is that there are
people that don't make a lot of sense.
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| User: "ocean" |
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02 Apr 2004 12:56:47 AM |
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Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a dear and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all that.
Nah, that's just one little fringe. About all you can say is that there
are
people that don't make a lot of sense.
***
True. Lot's of contradiction out there.
***
+ocean+
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| User: "Yardpilot" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
02 Apr 2004 05:47:30 PM |
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"ocean" <ocean@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P88bc.1010$Tw6.729@chiapp18.algx.net...
Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a dear and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all that.
Nah, that's just one little fringe. About all you can say is that there
are
people that don't make a lot of sense.
***
True. Lot's of contradiction out there.
***
Absolutely. There are people who favor abortion being legal, and people who
promote it. There are people who think it should be illegal no matter what, and
people who think it should be very strictly controlled. All of those people have
varying opinions on many other issues, as well. Perhaps the most visible group
on this issue these days are the radical anti-abortion people. They do get a lot
of media attention. They also tend toi sound like complete fruitcakes. As with
many controversial issues, they do more damage to their position than they would
if they just shut up and didn't say a word.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
02 Apr 2004 05:53:03 PM |
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"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:mYmbc.62124$K91.150457@attbi_s02...
"ocean" <ocean@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P88bc.1010$Tw6.729@chiapp18.algx.net...
Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a
necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a dear
and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all that.
Nah, that's just one little fringe. About all you can say is that
there
are
people that don't make a lot of sense.
***
True. Lot's of contradiction out there.
***
Absolutely. There are people who favor abortion being legal, and people
who
promote it. There are people who think it should be illegal no matter
what, and
people who think it should be very strictly controlled. All of those
people have
varying opinions on many other issues, as well. Perhaps the most visible
group
on this issue these days are the radical anti-abortion people. They do get
a lot
of media attention. They also tend toi sound like complete fruitcakes. As
with
many controversial issues, they do more damage to their position than they
would
if they just shut up and didn't say a word.
YUP. One of them was executed for murder here in Florida. Another is doing
life. Another was just convicted of molesting a 15-year old girl who was in
his care.
-*MORT*-
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| User: "Yardpilot" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
03 Apr 2004 05:25:40 PM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote in message
news:z1nbc.164454$Cb.1656630@attbi_s51...
"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:mYmbc.62124$K91.150457@attbi_s02...
"ocean" <ocean@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P88bc.1010$Tw6.729@chiapp18.algx.net...
Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a
necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a dear
and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all that.
Nah, that's just one little fringe. About all you can say is that
there
are
people that don't make a lot of sense.
***
True. Lot's of contradiction out there.
***
Absolutely. There are people who favor abortion being legal, and people
who
promote it. There are people who think it should be illegal no matter
what, and
people who think it should be very strictly controlled. All of those
people have
varying opinions on many other issues, as well. Perhaps the most visible
group
on this issue these days are the radical anti-abortion people. They do get
a lot
of media attention. They also tend toi sound like complete fruitcakes. As
with
many controversial issues, they do more damage to their position than they
would
if they just shut up and didn't say a word.
YUP. One of them was executed for murder here in Florida. Another is doing
life. Another was just convicted of molesting a 15-year old girl who was in
his care.
A group of them set up an informational booth at the county fair. That's cool,
First Amendment and all that. Talking to people, passing out literature, signing
folks up for their newsletter, getting petitions signed, etc. Then they set up a
large television and started showing some film that was, to say the least,
inappropriate for the location. Next they put some jars on the table that
contained what they said were human fetuses. They got an escort out. Both
pro-choice and anti-choice people at the fair thought they were assholes.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
03 Apr 2004 10:59:21 PM |
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"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:UJHbc.67139$K91.157314@attbi_s02...
"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote in message
news:z1nbc.164454$Cb.1656630@attbi_s51...
"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:mYmbc.62124$K91.150457@attbi_s02...
"ocean" <ocean@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P88bc.1010$Tw6.729@chiapp18.algx.net...
Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a
necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a
dear
and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all
that.
Nah, that's just one little fringe. About all you can say is that
there
are
people that don't make a lot of sense.
***
True. Lot's of contradiction out there.
***
Absolutely. There are people who favor abortion being legal, and
people
who
promote it. There are people who think it should be illegal no matter
what, and
people who think it should be very strictly controlled. All of those
people have
varying opinions on many other issues, as well. Perhaps the most
visible
group
on this issue these days are the radical anti-abortion people. They do
get
a lot
of media attention. They also tend toi sound like complete fruitcakes.
As
with
many controversial issues, they do more damage to their position than
they
would
if they just shut up and didn't say a word.
YUP. One of them was executed for murder here in Florida. Another is
doing
life. Another was just convicted of molesting a 15-year old girl who was
in
his care.
A group of them set up an informational booth at the county fair. That's
cool,
First Amendment and all that. Talking to people, passing out literature,
signing
folks up for their newsletter, getting petitions signed, etc. Then they
set up a
large television and started showing some film that was, to say the least,
inappropriate for the location. Next they put some jars on the table that
contained what they said were human fetuses. They got an escort out. Both
pro-choice and anti-choice people at the fair thought they were assholes.
Jars full of human fetuses? That certainly does nort sound like they had
much respect for human life.
-*MORT*-
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| User: "Yardpilot" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
04 Apr 2004 04:52:19 AM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote in message
news:JCMbc.178908$Cb.1683212@attbi_s51...
"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:UJHbc.67139$K91.157314@attbi_s02...
"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote in message
news:z1nbc.164454$Cb.1656630@attbi_s51...
"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:mYmbc.62124$K91.150457@attbi_s02...
"ocean" <ocean@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P88bc.1010$Tw6.729@chiapp18.algx.net...
Abortionist kill me sometimes. They say that an Abortion is a
necessary
thing to do. The killing of a fetus. But when a hunter whacks a
dear
and
eats it, they say that is gross, unessessary, brutal and all
that.
Nah, that's just one little fringe. About all you can say is that
there
are
people that don't make a lot of sense.
***
True. Lot's of contradiction out there.
***
Absolutely. There are people who favor abortion being legal, and
people
who
promote it. There are people who think it should be illegal no matter
what, and
people who think it should be very strictly controlled. All of those
people have
varying opinions on many other issues, as well. Perhaps the most
visible
group
on this issue these days are the radical anti-abortion people. They do
get
a lot
of media attention. They also tend toi sound like complete fruitcakes.
As
with
many controversial issues, they do more damage to their position than
they
would
if they just shut up and didn't say a word.
YUP. One of them was executed for murder here in Florida. Another is
doing
life. Another was just convicted of molesting a 15-year old girl who was
in
his care.
A group of them set up an informational booth at the county fair. That's
cool,
First Amendment and all that. Talking to people, passing out literature,
signing
folks up for their newsletter, getting petitions signed, etc. Then they
set up a
large television and started showing some film that was, to say the least,
inappropriate for the location. Next they put some jars on the table that
contained what they said were human fetuses. They got an escort out. Both
pro-choice and anti-choice people at the fair thought they were assholes.
Jars full of human fetuses? That certainly does nort sound like they had
much respect for human life.
Evidently they felt it appropriate to show their little film, put out their
little jars, and get stridently, nastily vocal in front of all those kids, but
the decent people didn't appreciate it. It was a pleasure to see two people I
know to be on completely opposite sides of this issue standing side by side
getting those pukes run off. They have a right to their opinion. They have a
right to express that opinion. If they want the protection of the First
Amendment, they can damn well understand what "time, place, and manner" means.
The point, of course, is that we see this behavior on the gun issues. Yes, there
are those on the pro-gun side who harm their own position, but it seems to be
quite widespread on the anti-gun side. Heck, they are the ones who insist there
have to be sides. Most pro-gun people are quite willing to let them make their
own choices regarding such things as gun ownership, but they do not return the
sentiment.
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| User: "John LF" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
01 Apr 2004 07:50:31 PM |
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Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
On 1 Apr 2004 23:02:27 +0100, Vote Republican!
<vote.republican@us.gov.rules.the.world> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Our Great President has just signed into law the
long-awaited "Unborn Victims of Violence Act" of
Congress. Excellent! This means that "pro-killer"
abortion advocates had better run and hide their
pointed little Anti-Xian heads in shame, because
the law of the land now favors what God's immuta-
ble Law clearly states to be fruitful & multiply!
I really like this law because Scott Peterson is
obviously guilty of murdering his wife and child,
so his scumbag criminal defense attorney doesn't
dare draw further attention to his guilty client
such that the Act of Congress signed into law by
President Bush is named after Peterson's victims!
What's Garagos gonna say? "Your honor, my client
can't get a fair trial anywhere in the US, since
Congress--and the President of the United States
of America--enacted this 'Laci & Conner' law, so
all charges against my irrefutably guilty client
should be dismissed, on the grounds of his guilt.
No jury on Earth could assume my guilty client's
innocence until proven guilty, but rather see it
as automatically guilty as will be proved guilty
in a court of law. My client hasn't got a prayer!"
And Roe vs Wade is history too, since any unborn
child is now protected by federal law, Oh my God!
Now we can't even have first trimester abortions,
but will have to teach our children abstinence &
responsibility instead of decadence & irresponsi-
bility like we've routinely done in the past. If
abortions are outlawed, only outlaws will have a-
bortions, with rates of sexual promiscuity among
adolescents quickly plummeting. This spells "dis-
aster" for the Hollywood, cable & satellite tele-
vision smut machine, and will make the Hollywood
heathen leftist liberal communists look very bad,
even though they always have looked like dogshit.
Made in America,
Daniel Joseph Min
________________________________________________________
PS be sure to bookmark and visit these websites today:
http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly
http://www.foxnews.com/hannityandcolmes
*Vietnam Veterans Against Commie Kerry:
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm
*Commie Kerry's Growing Popularity Among Terrorists:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=355d108a.0403141555.6b7b8ed6@posting.google.com
*News Commentary on Commie Kerry's "Lily-White *****"!
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=N3J9NXKO38058.1687037037@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Commentary on Mel Gibson's "Passion":
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OEDGX97538042.3620486111@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Last Word on Homosexual Marriage & Armageddon:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=T3FAE1MR38050.2393518519@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Commentary on Homosexual Marriage:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BKBRT6L738043.9300115741@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Newsgroup-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5YTK57VH37948.6355092593@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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| User: "John A. Stovall" |
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01 Apr 2004 08:12:41 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:50:31 GMT, John LF <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
So? You have no historical perspective. That's just noise in a
serious battle. How many were lost in the first 10 minutes of Omaha
Beach or Sharpsburg?
*********************************************************
"A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters.
Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its
mouth: "I, the state, am the people." "
_Thus Spake Zarathusttra_
by Friedrich Nietzsche
Chapter XI
The New Idol
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| User: "Pakalolo JR" |
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02 Apr 2004 07:24:40 AM |
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6iip60lgjkg7kd22cirg36qqd4phl14351@4ax.com...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:50:31 GMT, John LF <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
So? You have no historical perspective. That's just noise in a
serious battle.
I wish your mother was part of the noise before you were born then we
wouldn't have to listen to your static. Bush should be impeached for his
gross incompetence and you turn it into some kind of statistical joke.
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| User: "John A. Stovall" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
02 Apr 2004 07:23:44 AM |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:24:40 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6iip60lgjkg7kd22cirg36qqd4phl14351@4ax.com...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:50:31 GMT, John LF <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
So? You have no historical perspective. That's just noise in a
serious battle.
I wish your mother was part of the noise before you were born then we
wouldn't have to listen to your static. Bush should be impeached for his
gross incompetence and you turn it into some kind of statistical joke.
Never said I care for Bush, in fact I don't. But you have no
understanding of what war is and wring your hands over very light
casualties isn't an objective view.
I guess Lincoln should have been impeached for 25,000 dead in 4 hours
at Sharpsburg?
**********************************************************
"Take the glamour out of war! I mean how the bloody Hell
can you do that? Go and take the glamour out of a Huey, go
take the glamour out of a Sheridan....Can you take the
glamour out of a Cobra or getting stoned on China Beach?...
Oh war is good for you, you can't take the glamour out of
of that. It's like trying to take the glamour out of sex,
trying to take the glamour out of the Rolling Stones...I
mean, you know that, it just can't be done."
Tim Page to editor asking him to "finally
take the glamour out of war.".
From "Nam" by Tim Page
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| User: "Pakalolo JR" |
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| Title: Re: "Roe vs Wade" is DEAD! Hip-Hip-Hurrah President Bush! |
02 Apr 2004 08:03:49 AM |
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:f5qq601054ts4dltfkvm5asl99blora1r0@4ax.com...
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:24:40 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6iip60lgjkg7kd22cirg36qqd4phl14351@4ax.com...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:50:31 GMT, John LF <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
So? You have no historical perspective. That's just noise in a
serious battle.
I wish your mother was part of the noise before you were born then we
wouldn't have to listen to your static. Bush should be impeached for his
gross incompetence and you turn it into some kind of statistical joke.
Never said I care for Bush, in fact I don't. But you have no
understanding of what war is and wring your hands over very light
casualties isn't an objective view.
I guess Lincoln should have been impeached for 25,000 dead in 4 hours
at Sharpsburg?
It's not the end that bothers me, it's the means. We were going to Iraq for
WMDs, not because we were peace keepers. I would have no problem going to
Iraq if China, North Korea, Iran, and half of Africa were on our list of
next countries, but they are not. I mean, if we're going after countries to
make the world better there are much worse offenders than Iraq. North Korea
and China kill way more civilians than Saddam, but we just ignore the fact
that North Korea imprisons up to three generations of family members who
commit political crimes, and we negotiate lucrative trade deals with China.
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02 Apr 2004 08:19:08 AM |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:03:49 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:24:40 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:50:31 GMT, John LF <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
So? You have no historical perspective. That's just noise in a
serious battle.
I wish your mother was part of the noise before you were born then we
wouldn't have to listen to your static. Bush should be impeached for his
gross incompetence and you turn it into some kind of statistical joke.
Never said I care for Bush, in fact I don't. But you have no
understanding of what war is and wring your hands over very light
casualties isn't an objective view.
I guess Lincoln should have been impeached for 25,000 dead in 4 hours
at Sharpsburg?
It's not the end that bothers me, it's the means. We were going to Iraq for
WMDs, not because we were peace keepers. I would have no problem going to
Iraq if China, North Korea, Iran, and half of Africa were on our list of
next countries, but they are not. I mean, if we're going after countries to
make the world better there are much worse offenders than Iraq. North Korea
and China kill way more civilians than Saddam, but we just ignore the fact
that North Korea imprisons up to three generations of family members who
commit political crimes, and we negotiate lucrative trade deals with China.
Appear to me all you care about is the end from your list of
injustices to be righted. Any time you go to war, there will be
death, violence and suffering but that's the means of war which makes
it effective.
War never had and never will be peace keeping.
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"Vietnam is what we had instead of happy childhoods."
Tim Page in
"Dispatches"
by Michael Herr
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02 Apr 2004 08:55:53 AM |
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:03:49 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:24:40 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:50:31 GMT, John LF <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
So? You have no historical perspective. That's just noise in a
serious battle.
I wish your mother was part of the noise before you were born then we
wouldn't have to listen to your static. Bush should be impeached for
his
gross incompetence and you turn it into some kind of statistical joke.
Never said I care for Bush, in fact I don't. But you have no
understanding of what war is and wring your hands over very light
casualties isn't an objective view.
I guess Lincoln should have been impeached for 25,000 dead in 4 hours
at Sharpsburg?
It's not the end that bothers me, it's the means. We were going to Iraq
for
WMDs, not because we were peace keepers. I would have no problem going
to
Iraq if China, North Korea, Iran, and half of Africa were on our list of
next countries, but they are not. I mean, if we're going after countries
to
make the world better there are much worse offenders than Iraq. North
Korea
and China kill way more civilians than Saddam, but we just ignore the
fact
that North Korea imprisons up to three generations of family members who
commit political crimes, and we negotiate lucrative trade deals with
China.
Appear to me all you care about is the end from your list of
injustices to be righted. Any time you go to war, there will be
death, violence and suffering but that's the means of war which makes
it effective.
All I'm saying is Iraq was never about WMDs, and if it wasn't about WMDs
then what was it about? It certainly wasn't for the Kurds or other
civilians. I'm not against wars or the military, in fact I just enlisted,
but if we're gonna go around bombing and wasting money on Iraq, I would just
assume declare war on China and North Korea. I just don't see the point of
Iraq when taken in context with the rest of the world. I would have much
rather put the hundreds of billions of dollars we are wasting on Iraq into
hundreds of water purification plants in Africa, and have hundreds of
billions left over to fix up America. This place is becoming a toxic waste
dump and it's disgusting.
War never had and never will be peace keeping.
Hmmm, that's strange. I seem to recall that the U.S. has had several peace
keeping missions that involved the use of weapons and death, and though I
wouldn't necessarily call them all wars, a truce is certainly a factor in
all of them. Some of them don't turn into wars because we are there and the
threat of war is ever present.
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02 Apr 2004 10:13:56 AM |
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"Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hey stoner!
Why did you spam this message to a bunch of groups that don't give a *****
what you think?
Which may be all of them...
Regards, PLMerite
--
"If you rub it in both at home and abroad that you are ready for instant
war... and intend to be first in and hit your enemy in the belly and kick
him when he is down and boil your prisoners in oil (if you take any)... and
torture his women and children, then people will keep clear of you."
Vice Admiral Sir John Fisher, Royal Navy, 1898.
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| User: "John A. Stovall" |
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02 Apr 2004 08:59:30 AM |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:55:53 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:03:49 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
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War never had and never will be peace keeping.
Hmmm, that's strange. I seem to recall that the U.S. has had several peace
keeping missions that involved the use of weapons and death, and though I
wouldn't necessarily call them all wars, a truce is certainly a factor in
all of them. Some of them don't turn into wars because we are there and the
threat of war is ever present.
And nations lies. When the people around you are dying and you are
killing others it's War and calling it peace keeping changes nothing.
As for the threat of war, that's part of the human genotype. We are
hardwired for war and if history is any measure, we like it.
*****************************************************
"Vietnam is what we had instead of happy childhoods."
Tim Page in
"Dispatches"
by Michael Herr
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01 Apr 2004 10:53:52 PM |
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In article <6iip60lgjkg7kd22cirg36qqd4phl14351@4ax.com>,
johnastovall@earthlink.net says...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:50:31 GMT, John LF <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bush is a moron. His lies and ineptness has got us in Iraq and has
cost the U.S. over 600 lives and many more injuries.
So? You have no historical perspective. That's just noise in a
serious battle. How many were lost in the first 10 minutes of Omaha
Beach or Sharpsburg?
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"A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters.
Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its
mouth: "I, the state, am the people." "
_Thus Spake Zarathusttra_
by Friedrich Nietzsche
Chapter XI
The New Idol
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain??? I think they are looking for...
what??? 190 people? Might be some cheap apartments available close to
a train station.... but I'll tell ya what.... when Americans stop
killing each other in the streets of our own Country then maybe I'll
start listening to idiots ***** about those dying overseas.... so rather
then complain about Bush, why don't you guys walk the streets in your
downtown cities and keep watch so that those overseas defending the
Country won't have to come back to more bullets.
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02 Apr 2004 04:49:43 AM |
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Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain??? I think they are looking for...
what??? 190 people? Might be some cheap apartments available close to
a train station.... but I'll tell ya what.... when Americans stop
killing each other in the streets of our own Country then maybe I'll
start listening to idiots ***** about those dying overseas.... so rather
then complain about Bush, why don't you guys walk the streets in your
downtown cities and keep watch so that those overseas defending the
Country won't have to come back to more bullets.
It is amazing how some idiots think. One can only imagine how better
off the world could have been if Bush hadn't alienated our allies,
squandered all our tax money on his personal war and had instead,
focused the troops, money and our allies on Bin Laden & Al Qaeda. His
invasion of Iraq is an obviously contrived circus to get attention off
the poorest economy in 60+ years while securing profits for Haliburton,
etc. Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind.
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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02 Apr 2004 06:15:22 AM |
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"mj" <jvramo@cox.net> wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain???
Gotta share a story here real quickly. Draw your own conclusions.
There's a young lady I've come to know recently, we'll call her Amanda. Her
husband "Bill" has been one of my son's best friends since they were 5 years
old. All these "kids" are now in their mid twenties.
Amanda had been in the Army reserve for 7 years, 3 months away from her
discharge last spring, when the Army froze her time around the time of the
invasion of Iraq. Amanda had already done a year in Kosovo as a
peacekeeper.
Amanda had a job in a manufacturing plant in Holland, MI for several years.
Her employer was very supportive of her service to her country.
Amanda had gotten definite word of her deployment to Iraq last August.
Between that time and the time her unit was deployed to Iraq sometime last
winter, 7 of the girls in her unit became pregnant. They don't send
pregnant soldiers to Iraq.
Bill and Amanda had been dating for five years. Last Thanksgiving they got
married. My son was best man at their wedding. I took pictures at their
wedding and their reception.
I found out day before yesterday that Amanda's manufacturing job got closed
down and sent to Mexico. No kidding.
Amanda, this lovely, strong woman of great character, goes to Iraq. Her job
goes to Mexico.
Go figure.
Maybe Amanda will have to learn Spanish to get a job when she gets back.
Please keep these kids in prayer if you're inclined in that direction.
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02 Apr 2004 05:32:42 AM |
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"mj" <jvramo@cox.net> wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain??? I think they are looking for...
what??? 190 people? Might be some cheap apartments available close to
a train station.... but I'll tell ya what.... when Americans stop
killing each other in the streets of our own Country then maybe I'll
start listening to idiots ***** about those dying overseas.... so rather
then complain about Bush, why don't you guys walk the streets in your
downtown cities and keep watch so that those overseas defending the
Country won't have to come back to more bullets.
It is amazing how some idiots think.
Is that why you were so proud to demonstrate that you are the pinacle of
idiocy?
-*MORT*-
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02 Apr 2004 07:31:27 AM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote in message
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"mj" <jvramo@cox.net> wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do.
I think most people volunteered to defend their country against enemies,
both foreign and domestic, not to be rushed into a grossly unjustified war
without the proper supplies when they're fighting for the richest nation.
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02 Apr 2004 06:20:44 AM |
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In article <ubcbc.159884$_w.1776808@attbi_s53>,
oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com says...
"mj" <jvramo@cox.net> wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain??? I think they are looking for...
what??? 190 people? Might be some cheap apartments available close to
a train station.... but I'll tell ya what.... when Americans stop
killing each other in the streets of our own Country then maybe I'll
start listening to idiots ***** about those dying overseas.... so rather
then complain about Bush, why don't you guys walk the streets in your
downtown cities and keep watch so that those overseas defending the
Country won't have to come back to more bullets.
It is amazing how some idiots think.
Is that why you were so proud to demonstrate that you are the pinacle of
idiocy?
-*MORT*-
It's just so funny cause somehow you just think it is about "Bush". Of
course the fact that Saddam was giving $25000 to the families of suicide
bombers to continue "their" cause against one of our allies doesn't
bother you at all.... the fact that HE did gas the Kurd's in the North,
doesn't bother you at all... can't wait until that mentality hits our
streets.... I mean, isn't that what YOU are saying??? Good thing you
guys weren't around during WWll or we would all be speaking German or
Japanese. Does anyone "love" war??? Geez, I hope not. Do I think
Vietnam was a mistake??? Sure... but to think it is just a one sided
issue and "Bush" is to blame IS stupid.
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| User: "Pakalolo JR" |
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02 Apr 2004 07:41:02 AM |
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Good thing you
guys weren't around during WWll or we would all be speaking German or
Japanese.
Why would we be speaking Japanese or German?
Does anyone "love" war??? Geez, I hope not. Do I think
Vietnam was a mistake???
You think Vietnam was a mistake, but that rushing into Iraq wasn't? You
must have gotten your rationalization techniques fromt he bible or
something.
Sure... but to think it is just a one sided
issue and "Bush" is to blame IS stupid.
The buck stops at Bush (and his friends). He had the final say and he's the
one that has to take responsibility. Of course it's a one-sided issue.
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02 Apr 2004 07:54:17 AM |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:41:02 -0500, "Pakalolo <JR>" <abuse@aol.com>
wrote:
Good thing you
guys weren't around during WWll or we would all be speaking German or
Japanese.
Why would we be speaking Japanese or German?
Does anyone "love" war??? Geez, I hope not. Do I think
Vietnam was a mistake???
Never been to war? Yes, some love it.
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"Take the glamour out of war! I mean how the bloody Hell
can you do that? Go and take the glamour out of a Huey, go
take the glamour out of a Sheridan....Can you take the
glamour out of a Cobra or getting stoned on China Beach?...
Oh war is good for you, you can't take the glamour out of
of that. It's like trying to take the glamour out of sex,
trying to take the glamour out of the Rolling Stones...I
mean, you know that, it just can't be done."
Tim Page to editor asking him to "finally
take the glamour out of war.".
From "Nam" by Tim Page
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| User: "No Spam" |
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02 Apr 2004 06:50:08 PM |
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His invasion of Iraq is an obviously contrived circus to get attention off
the poorest economy in 60+ years while securing profits for Haliburton,
etc. Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind.
Let me guess...after you wrote this, you put on your tin foil hat and
chased black helicopters away from the grassy knoll.
-A
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:49:43 -0500, mj <jvramo@cox.net> wrote:
Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain??? I think they are looking for...
what??? 190 people? Might be some cheap apartments available close to
a train station.... but I'll tell ya what.... when Americans stop
killing each other in the streets of our own Country then maybe I'll
start listening to idiots ***** about those dying overseas.... so rather
then complain about Bush, why don't you guys walk the streets in your
downtown cities and keep watch so that those overseas defending the
Country won't have to come back to more bullets.
It is amazing how some idiots think. One can only imagine how better
off the world could have been if Bush hadn't alienated our allies,
squandered all our tax money on his personal war and had instead,
focused the troops, money and our allies on Bin Laden & Al Qaeda. His
invasion of Iraq is an obviously contrived circus to get attention off
the poorest economy in 60+ years while securing profits for Haliburton,
etc. Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind.
And worse, now that Sadamm is gone, think how many nasty Arabs will
grow to maturity instead of being eliminated in the old acid
showerbaths. They will probably start off-shore customer fulfilment
centers and take our jobs away. Oh why couldnt we have left well
enought alone?
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02 Apr 2004 11:56:04 AM |
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"My name is Legion" <apexdigit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:49:43 -0500, mj <jvramo@cox.net> wrote:
Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain??? I think they are looking for...
what??? 190 people? Might be some cheap apartments available close to
a train station.... but I'll tell ya what.... when Americans stop
killing each other in the streets of our own Country then maybe I'll
start listening to idiots ***** about those dying overseas.... so rather
then complain about Bush, why don't you guys walk the streets in your
downtown cities and keep watch so that those overseas defending the
Country won't have to come back to more bullets.
It is amazing how some idiots think. One can only imagine how better
off the world could have been if Bush hadn't alienated our allies,
squandered all our tax money on his personal war and had instead,
focused the troops, money and our allies on Bin Laden & Al Qaeda. His
invasion of Iraq is an obviously contrived circus to get attention off
the poorest economy in 60+ years while securing profits for Haliburton,
etc. Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind.
And worse, now that Sadamm is gone, think how many nasty Arabs will
grow to maturity instead of being eliminated in the old acid
showerbaths. They will probably start off-shore customer fulfilment
centers and take our jobs away. Oh why couldnt we have left well
enought alone?
Funny.
-*MORT*-
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02 Apr 2004 06:58:34 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:49:43 -0500, mj <jvramo@cox.net> wrote:
Mike wrote:
Just can't help the way some idiots think. I spent 20+ years in the
military and if my Country asked me to defend it overseas I would have
surely gone. Why??? I volunteered.... it was my choice... and that is
what the Country paid me to do and expected me to do. Why do these
"Bush" bashers think that has anything to do with him??? If they feel
that way, why not just move to Spain??? I think they are looking for...
what??? 190 people? Might be some cheap apartments available close to
a train station.... but I'll tell ya what.... when Americans stop
killing each other in the streets of our own Country then maybe I'll
start listening to idiots ***** about those dying overseas.... so rather
then complain about Bush, why don't you guys walk the streets in your
downtown cities and keep watch so that those overseas defending the
Country won't have to come back to more bullets.
It is amazing how some idiots think. One can only imagine how better
off the world could have been if Bush hadn't alienated our allies,
squandered all our tax money on his personal war and had instead,
focused the troops, money and our allies on Bin Laden & Al Qaeda. His
invasion of Iraq is an obviously contrived circus to get attention off
the poorest economy in 60+ years while securing profits for Haliburton,
etc. Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind.
People always bring up Haliburton...funny...isn't it the same
Haliburton Clinton used for 8 years? I'm sure you were complaining
then too.
NEVER FORGET!!!
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/us/0109/missing/files/toyen.amy.html
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