Says he wants to spend more time with the family ...
One interesting theory is that he's tossing in the towel because of
Cheney's influence -- a matter of who controls The Monkey.
Wait and see -- in other news, the new War Czar (ha!) mentioned
reinstating the military draft is a possibility. If Cheney decides to
invade Iran I guess there won't be much choice.
None of Mitt Romney's five sons are enlisted but instead are 'serving
their country' by helping to get him elected President -- I'm sure
there's a few tens of thousands of sons in Iraq today willing to serve
in a similar way.
The owner/manager of the Chinese toxic toys hung himself. An example
for the other crooked CEO's and politicians to follow.
The U.S. sub-prime mess has spread to international markets and
financial institutions regardless of the claims by Bernanke and others
that it was 'contained'. Wait and see ... we may soon have consumers
cashing in retirement funds to pay off long term debt if the easy money
dries up and interest rates rise substantially since bankruptcy is no
longer an option.
But taxes are low and bridges are collapsing.
That's it for now!
Cheers!
-- Marvin
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I don't smoke. I smell like bread. Life is Good.
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13 Aug 2007 01:33:28 PM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Says he wants to spend more time with the family ...
One interesting theory is that he's tossing in the towel because of
Cheney's influence -- a matter of who controls The Monkey.
It also could be that Bush prefers Cheney's butt in bed and/or he gives
him better head. Cheney's twisted mouth is evidence he's a sidewinding
***** sucker. :))
Wait and see -- in other news, the new War Czar (ha!) mentioned
reinstating the military draft is a possibility. If Cheney decides to
invade Iran I guess there won't be much choice.
If that happens, I think Romney's sons will seek refuge in Paraguay. And
Bush's twins will claim a medical deferment, arguing that they have
hereditary schizophrenia like their daddy.
None of Mitt Romney's five sons are enlisted but instead are 'serving
their country' by helping to get him elected President -- I'm sure
there's a few tens of thousands of sons in Iraq today willing to serve
in a similar way.
Mormon eyewitnesses will claim the Angel Moroni has suddenly returned and
declared Mitt the new Jesus. An enraptured Stevie will declare his undying
love for and devotion to him, sell everything and follow Romney. Later, a
badly disillusioned Stevie will be found naked, wandering aimlessly
through the White Sands desert, babbling, "I knew Jesus, Jesus was a
friend of mine, and Governor, you're no Jesus Christ."
The owner/manager of the Chinese toxic toys hung himself. An example
for the other crooked CEO's and politicians to follow.
The U.S. sub-prime mess has spread to international markets and
financial institutions regardless of the claims by Bernanke and others
that it was 'contained'. Wait and see ... we may soon have consumers
cashing in retirement funds to pay off long term debt if the easy money
dries up and interest rates rise substantially since bankruptcy is no
longer an option.
Look out for Washington Mutual!! That is their cornerstone. Seattle's huge
WAMU tower may turn into a flea market or swap meet.
But taxes are low and bridges are collapsing.
That ain't all that's collapsing, Marv...the Mothman, however, won't be
making his rounds anymore since he fell accidental victim to his own
harbinging of doom...found badly squished under the bridge debris last
week. It was an awful sight.
Doc ;))~
That's it for now!
Cheers!
-- Marvin
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13 Aug 2007 04:05:28 PM |
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That's the thing with these politicians. After they leave office, they have
no real responsibility. The president is the same. He has no real
responsibility for his decisions after he leaves office. Christianity is
the same. Do whatever dirty deed you wish... Jesus 'Saves'. It's uterly
amazing to me so many people (like Steven) can't see evil when it is staring
them right in the face. I guess when you worship presidents and dieties,
it's easy to loose sight of just principles. These kind of people do not
like responsibility for thier actions. Don't you think?
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13 Aug 2007 06:37:24 PM |
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"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:sI3wi.57569$rX4.50564@pd7urf2no...
That's the thing with these politicians. After they leave office, they
have no real responsibility. The president is the same. He has no real
responsibility for his decisions after he leaves office. Christianity
is the same. Do whatever dirty deed you wish... Jesus 'Saves'. It's
uterly amazing to me so many people (like Steven) can't see evil when it
is staring them right in the face. I guess when you worship presidents
and dieties, it's easy to loose sight of just principles. These kind of
people do not like responsibility for thier actions. Don't you think?
It's usually difficult for those who've spent their entire life thinking
someone in authority knows best, and following them, and angry at all
those who don't share their 'faith and devotion.'
It is just as evil, IMO, to not think for oneself, to follow or accept
those who 'claim' greater knowledge and wisdom -- but whose actions betray
that claim -- as it is for a fringe militant group to murder or maim
innocent civilians.
The people Stevie has supported, and continues to support, have laid waste
to many, many innocent lives and unnecessarily destroyed the lives of our
defending combatants in a terribly useless war.
When it's over, this awful nightmare of Bush, Iraq, and the neoconic
plague, Stevie and other 'faithful' proselytizers will suddenly switch
over to confessing, "If I knew then what I know now I would've never
supported it!"
You hear part of the confession now, however facilitating it is, and you
will hear this fanatic give up more ground as the months roll on...as more
needlessly die and are injured.
At some point, the Stevie's, the fanatical die-hards, will acquiesce to
admittance, if only half-heartedly, that they were wrong but only to pass
responsiblility partly to others that were as wrong as they. You see part
of the *process* of self-confession occurring now, with neocons whining
over their critics not recognizing that 'sharing blame' is simply not
fair treatment. Thus, they assume the role of a kind of victim, who
humbles themselves only to be unfairly held culpable, as responsible
thinking individuals, in wrongful acts the majority also supported. They
argue endlessly now that liberals also were wrong, and therefore hope to
deflect criticism directed specifically at thier poor discernment,
conformity, ignorance, and irrational thinking as individuals at the time.
Despite this developing process of confession, don't mistake that social
conformity comes into significant play here. It is not only because Stevie
and his neoconic pals are beginning to give ground because of any possible
moral revelation...oh no, it is largely that the majority has moved away
from the worldview they supported. If that majority moved back to that
view, they'd be back with them, joyously banging the drums for their
previously failed ideology.
It is essentially the world of kiss-***** conformists, ideological
psychotics and dangerous nationalistic sociopaths that Stevie has
membership in. It's a club made in Hell...
Doc
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13 Aug 2007 07:06:50 PM |
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"Docrodile" <swampthing@hellsbayou.net> wrote in message
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Unlike Steven, I had common sense and knew it was wrong, even before it
started. I could clearly see that people were being deceived. I voiced my
opinion here back then. If Steven were honest, he would go into the archives
and check. Steven uses others opinions to justify his stance. For I,
regardless of whoever is blaming who, my soul stands spotless in that
matter. I personally did not make any mistake in my moral judgment. If
Steven were smart, he would worship me instead
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14 Aug 2007 12:54:10 AM |
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"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:um6wi.57458$fJ5.28468@pd7urf1no...
"Docrodile" <swampthing@hellsbayou.net> wrote in message
news:qaednZHZ67Oudl3bnZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@comcast.com...
Unlike Steven, I had common sense and knew it was wrong, even before it
started. I could clearly see that people were being deceived. I voiced
my opinion here back then. If Steven were honest, he would go into the
archives and check. Steven uses others opinions to justify his stance.
For I, regardless of whoever is blaming who, my soul stands spotless in
that matter. I personally did not make any mistake in my moral judgment.
If Steven were smart, he would worship me instead
And THAT is precisely what eats his ***** out about us. He knows we didn't
support the Iraq invasion, occupation, the whole damned stupid thing. He
can't deny it. There it is. Right in the archives he values so much! I've
been saying Bush is a scoundrel from the time he took office. I didn't
have to wait to see if he fulfilled my lowest expectations -- I knew he
was a bastardly lying politician and a corporate *****-licking *****. He
and Cheney. While you and I had no compelling reason to follow him around
like a puppy, the Stevie's of the nation were eating out of his hand.
I learned long ago not to trust politicians. It isn't hard to understand
why they should be questioned about what they say and do -- the track
record of their lies and manipulations is there for archive-addicts like
Stevie to plainly see.
Yet, he persists in believing them, supporting them, defending them. Well,
only the ones he likes which are, understandably, the ones who engaged the
nation in considerable warfare. You notice that the more warfare or
war-like they are, the more Stevie Doughboy likes 'em. Even ridiculous
escapades like Grenada get Stevie's hormones going, unkinking his pubic
hair.
It's war, war, war...endlessly, futilely, stupidly for psychotic folks
like Stevie. To him and his ilk, all of life is a battlefield where you
have to plant your ***** firmly in a foxhole and keep plinking at the enemy
and defending your ***** forever more....while he and his chickenhawk
buddies are too chickenshit to get outta' the hole and surge forward. His
and their asses mean too much to 'em. Others' asses, though, are
expendable for their glowing ideology of dominance and glory.
War is a substitute for sex. In the absence of loving human contact, there
really is only violence left to excite the senses. Stevie and his
rat-fucks could get their jollies from doing creative work, but that would
take imagination or originality -- neither of which they possess.
Doc
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13 Aug 2007 11:40:41 PM |
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I never really cared that much for Rove McManus anyways !!!
http://www.oxfam.org.au/campaigns/mtf/wto/famous/rove1.jpg
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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On Aug 14, 1:53 am, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Says he wants to spend more time with the family ...
One interesting theory is that he's tossing in the towel because of
Cheney's influence -- a matter of who controls The Monkey.
Wait and see -- in other news, the new War Czar (ha!) mentioned
reinstating the military draft is a possibility. If Cheney decides to
invade Iran I guess there won't be much choice.
None of Mitt Romney's five sons are enlisted but instead are 'serving
their country' by helping to get him elected President -- I'm sure
there's a few tens of thousands of sons in Iraq today willing to serve
in a similar way.
The owner/manager of the Chinese toxic toys hung himself. An example
for the other crooked CEO's and politicians to follow.
The U.S. sub-prime mess has spread to international markets and
financial institutions regardless of the claims by Bernanke and others
that it was 'contained'. Wait and see ... we may soon have consumers
cashing in retirement funds to pay off long term debt if the easy money
dries up and interest rates rise substantially since bankruptcy is no
longer an option.
But taxes are low and bridges are collapsing.
That's it for now!
Cheers!
-- Marvin
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I don't smoke. I smell like bread. Life is Good.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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13 Aug 2007 08:38:35 PM |
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On Aug 13, 8:53 am, Marvin The Paranoid Android wrote:
But taxes are low and bridges are collapsing.
Bridges? Plural? As in the one in the United States and the one in
Canada less than a year ago?
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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13 Aug 2007 10:09:38 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187055515.417662.20790@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 13, 8:53 am, Marvin The Paranoid Android wrote:
But taxes are low and bridges are collapsing.
Bridges? Plural?
Did you not see the bridges in New Orleans that got washed away?
As in the one in the United States and the one in
Canada less than a year ago?
What do bridges in Canada have to do with Roves incompetence?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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13 Aug 2007 11:04:39 PM |
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On Aug 13, 8:09 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187055515.417662.20790@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 13, 8:53 am, Marvin The Paranoid Android wrote:
But taxes are low and bridges are collapsing.
Bridges? Plural?
Did you not see the bridges in New Orleans that got washed away?
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone else had been
president, right?
As in the one in the United States and the one in
Canada less than a year ago?
What do bridges in Canada have to do with Roves incompetence?
And yet they collapse anyway. Imagine that. How can that possibly be?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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14 Aug 2007 03:03:18 AM |
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Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
I can go back at least as far as 2002 and find myself
talking about infrustructure (complaining that the GOP
has steadfastly refused to invest in it).
Reagan's tax give-aways to the rich did nothing for
infrustructure. His enormous defense spending
left no infrustructure behind, nothing on which to
base future economic growth.
The same is true for Dubya. His tax give-away to the rich
cost over $100 billion in it's first year alone, enough to
pay for anywhere between four & 10 Boston-style "Big
Dig" public works projects.
Hint: Boston's "Big Dig" created construction jobs as
far away as Baltimore! Yes, I said CONSTRUCTION
jobs. They built the new tunnel, in segments, in Baltimore,
then floated them up to Boston.
The Republican-controlled congress, back in the 1990s,
nixed the funding to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.
Why? Because New Orleans is a Democratic city, but
the excuse they gave was that the real cost was well
in excess of the estimates.
They were right about the estimates, sure, but look at
all the money the Republicans found for a Bridge to
Nowhere... heck, the last (Republican) congress was the
all-time pork barrel congress, but infrustructure never so
much as made it on their radar.
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14 Aug 2007 07:56:04 PM |
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On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090702462_pf.html
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| User: "JTEM" |
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16 Aug 2007 06:06:04 AM |
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Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
I'm a glutton for punishment, so I'm going to explain to you
why you're full of *****....
First, it's irrelevant. The question put to us was whether or
not it would have been different without Bush, not what was
it like prior to Bush. So, your response is completey off
base. It simply doesn't counter what was stated.
Secondly, Bush did NOT fund a rebuilding of the levees.
It doesn't matter what money he made available, he did
not make the money to rebuild the levees available.
And it was nothing less than rebuilding that was known
to be necessary. Yes, it was known that the levees
were no good, that water was already forcing itself out
(from under the levees) long before Katrina. The fault
was poor design and/or construction.
Finally, regardless of who it came from -- whether Clinton
or the tooth fairy -- a multi-billion dollar bill to fund the
rebuilding of the levees WAS submitted to congress
during the Clinton years, and the Republicans killed it.
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16 Aug 2007 11:07:55 AM |
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On Aug 16, 4:06 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
I'm a glutton for punishment, so I'm going to explain to you
why you're full of *****....
Don't bother. Tell me why you believe the Washington Post is full of
*****.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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17 Aug 2007 12:16:41 AM |
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Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Don't bother.
Now contradict yourself....
Tell me why you believe the Washington Post is full of
*****.
Um, because the don't do investigative journalism anymore?
They were handed some papers, and wrote an interpretation
on those papers. They didn't investigate. They didn't find
out what else was going on... what bills had been submitted...
heck, they didn't even do a Lexisnexis search to find out what
other information had already come to light, and place their
"New" information within that context.
It's really no mystery. If you weren't already prone to fanciful
leaps yourself, you would have known this.
I mean, you make a habit out of ignoring any & all pieces
of information that don't jive with your worship of Bush.
Like the fake intel.
Why fake it if there's already real intel?
There's absolutely no reason for it. Which means, it
contradicts what you need to believe, so you ignore it.
It don't include it in your picture of events. It's an
unexplained gap in your version of things.
Now, if you were normal, and didn't regularly ignore
most of the puzzle pieces yourself, you could read
newspaper articles more critically. But you're not
normal.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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17 Aug 2007 11:07:33 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat the
Words
Now, if you were normal, and didn't regularly ignore
most of the puzzle pieces yourself, you could read
newspaper articles more critically. But you're not
normal.
Awe, that's not a very nice thing to say. Now I want you to
kiss and make up with stevie.. there's a nice boy.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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18 Aug 2007 04:18:55 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns998FE113865BDrrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat
the
Words
Now, if you were normal, and didn't regularly ignore
most of the puzzle pieces yourself, you could read
newspaper articles more critically. But you're not
normal.
Awe, that's not a very nice thing to say. Now I want you to
kiss and make up with stevie.. there's a nice boy.
Yes, Johnny, be a good lil' fairy.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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14 Aug 2007 08:08:05 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090702462_pf.html
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven. As we all know, Bush
used the tactic quite successfully to dupe America to go to war.
Woods
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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14 Aug 2007 08:21:23 PM |
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On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped? Even the two who said
they did not listen to Bush? And one who said whatever Bush said
didn't matter, because we couldn't afford to wait? And one who was in
the White House less than two years previous to her vote to authorize
the war?
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16 Aug 2007 06:23:29 AM |
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Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional
delegation for diverting money to "unrelated" water
projects rather than using it to keep New Orleans dry.
Found a cite:
http://www.stevens.edu/csw/content/fischetti/2001.pdf
Turns out the total price tag was put at $14 billion, of
which the Republican congress & Bush had maybe
given up a billion.
Given the usual 80% formula, the actual figure should
have been $11.2 billion.
And, yeah, many (if not all) of these "unrelated" projects
were in fact related.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did
not listen to Bush for their WMD intelligence,
Which is irrelevant, as we all know that there isn't
a different intelligence source for them.
Their information came from the CIA, whose
briefings did include Bush's fake intel.
So you might as well smear ***** on your face, because
you're not fooling anybody...
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| User: "JohnnysTherapist" |
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14 Aug 2007 09:19:45 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187140883.394670.203840@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped? Even the two who said
they did not listen to Bush? And one who said whatever Bush said
didn't matter, because we couldn't afford to wait? And one who was in
the White House less than two years previous to her vote to authorize
the war?
Why don't you quote a supportive statement for Bush from one of his
biggest smoochies, Joe Blow Lieberman? I haven't seen you stroking his
limp member for a long time here.
Doc :))~
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Rove Resigns |
15 Aug 2007 04:45:57 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
Even the two who said
they did not listen to Bush? And one who said whatever Bush said
didn't matter, because we couldn't afford to wait? And one who was in
the White House less than two years previous to her vote to authorize
the war?
A-yup. Bush decided what was/wasn't allowed to be put into briefings, so
they got filtered intel whether or not it actually spewed forth from
Bush's mouth.
But, you knew that.
Woods
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Rove Resigns |
15 Aug 2007 08:48:39 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun <woodswun@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Even the two who said
they did not listen to Bush? And one who said whatever Bush said
didn't matter, because we couldn't afford to wait? And one who was in
the White House less than two years previous to her vote to authorize
the war?
A-yup. Bush decided what was/wasn't allowed to be put into briefings, so
they got filtered intel whether or not it actually spewed forth from
Bush's mouth.
But, you knew that.
Woods
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Rove Resigns |
15 Aug 2007 09:33:44 PM |
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On Aug 15, 6:48 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Just pointing out an actual *fact* to one of your fellow leftists. In
this case, a fact goes against leftist "truth" that Bush corrupted the
intelligence. But not one of your leftists can show a shred of
evidence that he did. All you've got are your *lies of the left* --
but then that's all you need.
.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Rove Resigns |
15 Aug 2007 10:32:08 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187231624.830075.312910@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:48 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests
for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five
years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its
past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has
said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the
drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed
projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to
unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned
out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations
criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it
to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Just pointing out an actual *fact* to one of your fellow leftists. In
this case, a fact goes against leftist "truth" that Bush corrupted the
intelligence. But not one of your leftists can show a shred of
evidence that he did. All you've got are your *lies of the left* --
but then that's all you need.
Since you're so confident you dwell in the Land of Truth & Light, there's
no compelling reason to flail away at us, is there? Unless you're
psychotic, immature, or stupid, that is...
.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Rove Resigns |
16 Aug 2007 12:03:27 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187231624.830075.312910@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:48 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests
for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five
years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its
past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has
said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the
drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed
projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to
unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned
out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations
criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it
to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Just pointing out an actual *fact* to one of your fellow leftists. In
this case, a fact goes against leftist "truth" that Bush corrupted the
intelligence. But not one of your leftists can show a shred of
evidence that he did. All you've got are your *lies of the left* --
but then that's all you need.
Since you're so confident you dwell in the Land of Truth & Light, there's
no compelling reason to flail away at us, is there? Unless you're
psychotic, immature, or stupid, that is...
There is just nothing like true man-love.. the love of one devout
jesus-toting man for another man of similar predilection.
There is no proof that Bush knowingly violated our law, says stevie,
so Bush is not guilty. By this reasoning anyone can commit any crime
by just pleading ignorance.
This is so convenient for the neocons. By saying they would have done
things differently knowing what they know now, they completely absolve
themselves of guilt for illegally invading another country, killing and
displacing millions of people, and by saying they now want to make things
right for the Iraqis the neocons can then stay in Iraq indefinitely and
keep all that oil.
Someone needs to remind stevie that economic enslavement was what Nazi
Germany, Facist Italy and Japan were doing to those countries they
invaded, and is why we went to war against the axis.
.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Rove Resigns |
16 Aug 2007 07:06:30 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns998DEA8DB9811rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187231624.830075.312910@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:48 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding
requests
for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five
years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its
past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has
said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the
drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed
projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying
New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to
unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation
and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned
out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations
criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel
spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it
to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that
paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put
Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Just pointing out an actual *fact* to one of your fellow leftists. In
this case, a fact goes against leftist "truth" that Bush corrupted the
intelligence. But not one of your leftists can show a shred of
evidence that he did. All you've got are your *lies of the left* --
but then that's all you need.
Since you're so confident you dwell in the Land of Truth & Light,
there's
no compelling reason to flail away at us, is there? Unless you're
psychotic, immature, or stupid, that is...
There is just nothing like true man-love.. the love of one devout
jesus-toting man for another man of similar predilection.
There is no proof that Bush knowingly violated our law, says stevie,
so Bush is not guilty. By this reasoning anyone can commit any crime
by just pleading ignorance.
This is so convenient for the neocons. By saying they would have done
things differently knowing what they know now, they completely absolve
themselves of guilt for illegally invading another country, killing and
displacing millions of people, and by saying they now want to make
things
right for the Iraqis the neocons can then stay in Iraq indefinitely and
keep all that oil.
You see another trick in the making now, with Gen. Patreus's glowing
remarks about how the 'surge' is being effective in some areas so that US
troops can reduce their numbers in those locations. This manipulation
allows Bush to be 'right' about his surge plan, essentially, but
simultaneously obfuscating the overall failed policy of invasion and
occupation, lousy intel, a deepening civil war, escalating violence, and
the previous tactical blundering. We're not withdrawing because it's a
hopeless mess Bush and Cheney created, no, we're withdrawing because it's
finally working as planned. Yeehaw! Miracles do happen! Neocons' faith is
rewarded!
Heeheeheehee....
We'll look back on these momentary stupid pre-election manipulations and
laugh...and then cry for all those additional people who died as
politicians exploited the situation and prolonged this absurd war.
Right-wing whores like Stevie will be scarce to find by 2009. He'll waddle
over to another group on the usenet, change his name, and whine about how
ruling Democrats will destroy the America he claims he adores.
Doc
Someone needs to remind stevie that economic enslavement was what Nazi
Germany, Facist Italy and Japan were doing to those countries they
invaded, and is why we went to war against the axis.
.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Rove Resigns |
17 Aug 2007 10:13:15 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns998DEA8DB9811rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187231624.830075.312910@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:48 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding
requests
for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five
years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its
past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has
said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the
drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed
projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying
New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to
unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation
and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned
out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations
criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel
spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it
to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that
paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put
Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Just pointing out an actual *fact* to one of your fellow leftists. In
this case, a fact goes against leftist "truth" that Bush corrupted the
intelligence. But not one of your leftists can show a shred of
evidence that he did. All you've got are your *lies of the left* --
but then that's all you need.
Since you're so confident you dwell in the Land of Truth & Light,
there's
no compelling reason to flail away at us, is there? Unless you're
psychotic, immature, or stupid, that is...
There is just nothing like true man-love.. the love of one devout
jesus-toting man for another man of similar predilection.
There is no proof that Bush knowingly violated our law, says stevie,
so Bush is not guilty. By this reasoning anyone can commit any crime
by just pleading ignorance.
This is so convenient for the neocons. By saying they would have done
things differently knowing what they know now, they completely absolve
themselves of guilt for illegally invading another country, killing and
displacing millions of people, and by saying they now want to make
things
right for the Iraqis the neocons can then stay in Iraq indefinitely and
keep all that oil.
You see another trick in the making now, with Gen. Patreus's glowing
remarks about how the 'surge' is being effective in some areas so that US
troops can reduce their numbers in those locations.
Iraq bombings prove surge is working: White House
http://alaskareport.com/news/z46548_iraq_bombs.htm
Can you believe our gutless leader GWB says stuff like this ?
"these suicide bombings are proof the surge is working."
Apparently the goal is the complete extermination of the Iraqi population.
... and stevie supports this since he's not against it.
This manipulation
allows Bush to be 'right' about his surge plan, essentially, but
simultaneously obfuscating the overall failed policy of invasion and
occupation, lousy intel, a deepening civil war, escalating violence, and
the previous tactical blundering. We're not withdrawing because it's a
hopeless mess Bush and Cheney created, no, we're withdrawing because it's
finally working as planned. Yeehaw! Miracles do happen! Neocons' faith is
rewarded!
Heeheeheehee....
We'll look back on these momentary stupid pre-election manipulations and
laugh...and then cry for all those additional people who died as
politicians exploited the situation and prolonged this absurd war.
Right-wing whores like Stevie will be scarce to find by 2009. He'll
waddle
over to another group on the usenet, change his name, and whine about how
ruling Democrats will destroy the America he claims he adores.
Doc
Someone needs to remind stevie that economic enslavement was what Nazi
Germany, Facist Italy and Japan were doing to those countries they
invaded, and is why we went to war against the axis.
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On Aug 15, 10:03 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187231624.830075.312910@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:48 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests
for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five
years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its
past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has
said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the
drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed
projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to
unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned
out to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations
criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it
to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Just pointing out an actual *fact* to one of your fellow leftists. In
this case, a fact goes against leftist "truth" that Bush corrupted the
intelligence. But not one of your leftists can show a shred of
evidence that he did. All you've got are your *lies of the left* --
but then that's all you need.
Since you're so confident you dwell in the Land of Truth & Light, there's
no compelling reason to flail away at us, is there? Unless you're
psychotic, immature, or stupid, that is...
There is just nothing like true man-love.. the love of one devout
jesus-toting man for another man of similar predilection.
There is no proof that Bush knowingly violated our law, says stevie,
That's not what I said, Randy. I clearly said there is no evidence
that he "corrupted" the WMD intelligence. The Senate Intelligence
Agency as well as another commission who investigated can find no
intelligence analyst who says there was pressure from the
administration to change their analysis.
so Bush is not guilty. By this reasoning anyone can commit any crime
by just pleading ignorance.
What are you talking about? The point made by your fellow leftist is
that Bush passed false intelligence onto Congress, and two
investigations have shown that claim to be false.
This is so convenient for the neocons. By saying they would have done
things differently knowing what they know now, they completely absolve
themselves of guilt for illegally invading another country, killing and
displacing millions of people, and by saying they now want to make things
right for the Iraqis the neocons can then stay in Iraq indefinitely and
keep all that oil.
Someone needs to remind stevie that economic enslavement was what Nazi
Germany, Facist Italy and Japan were doing to those countries they
invaded, and is why we went to war against the axis.
That sounds like a winning strategy for the next Democratic nominee.
Just tell the American people that their country behaves just like
Nazi Germany, or Facist Italy and Japan. Yep, that sounds like a real
winner.
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16 Aug 2007 12:10:32 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187231624.830075.312910@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:48 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:21:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:08 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:56:04 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:03 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Oh. And of course that wouldn't have happened if someone
else had been president, right?
Just like you, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself.
And, yeah, it would have been different without Bush.
Wrong. Read the following from The Washington Post:
[excerpt] But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests
for
the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years
were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past
five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said
that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning
of
the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a
Category
3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed
projects.
[end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR200...
[excerpt]
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New
Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to
unrelated
water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and
approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out
to
be
inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations
criticizing
Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending,
Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
[end excerpt]
You're not the only one who can cherry pick, Steven.
That paragraph blames the Louisiana's congressional delegation for
diverting money to "unrelated" water projects rather than using it to
keep New Orleans dry. What was your point in posting that paragraph?
As we all know, Bush used the tactic quite successfully to dupe
America to go to war.
But Gephardt and Edwards have said they did not listen to Bush for
their WMD intelligence, but they voted to approve the use of force
anyway. And Jay Rockefeller said we could not afford to wait for
further proof, because to wait for further proof could put Americans
in danger. And Hillary Clinton said Saddam was rebuilding his WMD
programs, and giving sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members. You're saying Bush had them all duped?
A-yup.
I think I've heard this story from stevie before. This is right
before he announces he's pregnant with GWB's love child, then he
throws himself in front of a speeding train to spare GWB the ignominy
of a baby out of wedlock with another man.
Such love stevie has for GWB.. always leaping to defend his man.
Just pointing out an actual *fact* to one of your fellow leftists. In
this case, a fact goes against leftist "truth" that Bush corrupted the
intelligence. But not one of your leftists can show a shred of
evidence that he did. All you've got are your *lies of the left* --
but then that's all you need.
It only seems that way to you Steven, because you have no training in the
discipline of logic. As a computer programmer, I have studied it extensively
and use it every day. I could easily demonstrate my abilities in this
regard if you were a learned man. If I did not understand logic, my
computer programs would crash. Computers cannot work without this process
and understanding you know
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