Anyone else notice that he looks likes he'd been locked away in some
Soviet mental institution in the Gulag, for about a year?
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19 Dec 2003 07:17:26 PM |
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In article <jq86uv0onng176n287b0p68k27j9ds0skd@4ax.com>, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Anyone else notice that he looks likes he'd been locked away in some
Soviet mental institution in the Gulag, for about a year?
I think his make-up artist and hairdresser were captured early on.
:-D
Woods
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20 Dec 2003 09:20:56 AM |
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:13:12 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
Anyone else notice that he looks likes he'd been locked away in some
Soviet mental institution in the Gulag, for about a year?
Wasn't him. Just another ploy by the Americans to make themselves look
good. I'm sure they have photoshop just like the rest of us.
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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20 Dec 2003 09:35:47 AM |
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<DaarkSyde@everywhere.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:13:12 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
Anyone else notice that he looks likes he'd been locked away in some
Soviet mental institution in the Gulag, for about a year?
Wasn't him. Just another ploy by the Americans to make themselves look
good. I'm sure they have photoshop just like the rest of us.
I understand that Madeleine Albright was "joking" the other day that we
already had bin-Laden in custody and were waiting til just before the
November elections to release news of his capture. This joking taking place
while being made up for an interview with Mort Kondrake.
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| User: "jha_amin" |
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20 Dec 2003 11:52:13 AM |
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" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message news:<6eGdnWKMCsJ-8XmiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
<DaarkSyde@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:a4q8uv06pc0pfcplc0mvt8ja4djfghaukc@4ax.com...
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:13:12 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
Anyone else notice that he looks likes he'd been locked away in some
Soviet mental institution in the Gulag, for about a year?
Wasn't him. Just another ploy by the Americans to make themselves look
good. I'm sure they have photoshop just like the rest of us.
I understand that Madeleine Albright was "joking" the other day that we
already had bin-Laden in custody and were waiting til just before the
November elections to release news of his capture. This joking taking place
while being made up for an interview with Mort Kondrake.
Either the capture (staged or real) of bin or a major terrorist action
in the US would pretty much insure another term for Bush. The odds
are good and will be played for the biggest advantage. No joke. ;)
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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20 Dec 2003 08:22:33 PM |
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"jha_amin" <jha_amin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:33b7880.0312200952.7f0f3bb3@posting.google.com...
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:<6eGdnWKMCsJ-8XmiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
I understand that Madeleine Albright was "joking" the other day that we
already had bin-Laden in custody and were waiting til just before the
November elections to release news of his capture. This joking taking
place
while being made up for an interview with Mort Kondrake.
Either the capture (staged or real) of bin or a major terrorist action
in the US would pretty much insure another term for Bush. The odds
are good and will be played for the biggest advantage. No joke. ;)
Just as a side note, "Madame Secretary" claims she was joking when she said
this. Kondracke and the others present in the room were under the distinct
impression that she was being serious. No joke.
If GWB's economic programs succeed he'll be re-elected in a walk. Americans
vote their pocketbooks. If people read Libya's capitulation on WMDs as
proof of the effectiveness of Bush's war on terror and his successes
continue he may just win by a landslide. Even against Hillary. :-)
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21 Dec 2003 03:33:04 AM |
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" John F Lemke"
wrote:
If GWB's economic programs succeed he'll be re-elected in a walk. Americans
vote their pocketbooks. If people read Libya's capitulation on WMDs as
proof of the effectiveness of Bush's war on terror and his successes
continue he may just win by a landslide. >Even against Hillary. :-)
Good analysis, John.
The Dems only hope is for an economice crash and/or a disaster in Iraq. This
explains there constant drone of negativeness.
Tony
"Sometimes we don't need History at all."
Dani
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21 Dec 2003 06:34:48 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031221043304.29482.00000735@mb-m02.aol.com...
" John F Lemke"
wrote:
If GWB's economic programs succeed he'll be re-elected in a walk.
Americans
vote their pocketbooks. If people read Libya's capitulation on WMDs as
proof of the effectiveness of Bush's war on terror and his successes
continue he may just win by a landslide. >Even against Hillary. :-)
Good analysis, John.
The Dems only hope is for an economice crash and/or a disaster in Iraq.
This
explains there constant drone of negativeness.
Tony
With Iran opening to inspections of it's nuclear facilities can you imagine
how America and the world would react if N. Korea formally agreed to abandon
it's nuclear program and submit to the same inspections? Kim Il Jong
joining Muhammar in the community of nations? You gotta know they're
pushing for that hard. Eliminating threats by rogue nations, the axis of
evil, by force and by diplomacy? The Dow steadily above 10,000 for ten
months by the time of the elections. Jobless claims vanishing, employment
on the steady rise during this time. Could make for some of the most
effective campaign ads in history. He'd be unbeatable.
Moving to a new world order for sure.
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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21 Dec 2003 05:11:57 PM |
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" John F Lemke" <> wrote in message news:<ruOdne0IJ5lnDniiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031221043304.29482.00000735@mb-m02.aol.com...
" John F Lemke"
wrote:
If GWB's economic programs succeed he'll be re-elected in a walk.
Americans
vote their pocketbooks. If people read Libya's capitulation on WMDs as
proof of the effectiveness of Bush's war on terror and his successes
continue he may just win by a landslide. >Even against Hillary. :-)
Good analysis, John.
The Dems only hope is for an economice crash and/or a disaster in Iraq.
This
explains there constant drone of negativeness.
Tony
With Iran opening to inspections of it's nuclear facilities can you imagine
how America and the world would react if N. Korea formally agreed to abandon
it's nuclear program and submit to the same inspections? Kim Il Jong
joining Muhammar in the community of nations? You gotta know they're
pushing for that hard. Eliminating threats by rogue nations, the axis of
evil, by force and by diplomacy? The Dow steadily above 10,000 for ten
months by the time of the elections. Jobless claims vanishing, employment
on the steady rise during this time. Could make for some of the most
effective campaign ads in history. He'd be unbeatable.
Moving to a new world order for sure.
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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21 Dec 2003 07:25:22 PM |
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"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:39cd5fe.0312211511.31524819@posting.google.com...
" John F Lemke" < > wrote in message
news:<ruOdne0IJ5lnDniiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031221043304.29482.00000735@mb-m02.aol.com...
" John F Lemke"
wrote:
If GWB's economic programs succeed he'll be re-elected in a walk.
Americans
vote their pocketbooks. If people read Libya's capitulation on WMDs
as
proof of the effectiveness of Bush's war on terror and his successes
continue he may just win by a landslide. >Even against Hillary. :-)
Good analysis, John.
The Dems only hope is for an economice crash and/or a disaster in
Iraq.
This
explains there constant drone of negativeness.
Tony
With Iran opening to inspections of it's nuclear facilities can you
imagine
how America and the world would react if N. Korea formally agreed to
abandon
it's nuclear program and submit to the same inspections? Kim Il Jong
joining Muhammar in the community of nations? You gotta know they're
pushing for that hard. Eliminating threats by rogue nations, the axis
of
evil, by force and by diplomacy? The Dow steadily above 10,000 for ten
months by the time of the elections. Jobless claims vanishing,
employment
on the steady rise during this time. Could make for some of the most
effective campaign ads in history. He'd be unbeatable.
Moving to a new world order for sure.
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
No argument here................. :-)
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| User: "Not Important" |
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21 Dec 2003 09:15:32 PM |
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" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:Kr-dnb3ZKZ4O1Xui4p2dnA@locallink.net...
"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
No argument here................. :-)
I completely disagree with that statement. It's more fiction produced by the
fanatical dogmatic Christians. Good intentions builds virtue, the road to
heaven. Period. Hell comes from anger, fear, and addictions. The line was to
scare people into following the dogmas of the Church instead of their
conscience which is BAD advice.
--
Jim Scannell
jscannell@wi.rr.com
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/
(Your link on things that are truly important)
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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22 Dec 2003 08:23:34 AM |
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"Not Important" <someone@here.yea> wrote in message
news:oltFb.176004$Eq1.160973@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:Kr-dnb3ZKZ4O1Xui4p2dnA@locallink.net...
"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
No argument here................. :-)
I completely disagree with that statement. It's more fiction produced by
the
fanatical dogmatic Christians. Good intentions builds virtue, the road to
heaven. Period.
It remains to be seen if current Western policies in Iraq build a road to
heaven or not. Western 'good intentions' brought Saddam into being in the
first place.
Hell comes from anger, fear, and addictions.
It also comes from manipulating foreign nations to serve selfish interests.
The line was to
scare people into following the dogmas of the Church instead of their
conscience which is BAD advice.
Any 'policy', public or personal, that is not based in love will bring
grief.
--
Jim Scannell
jscannell@wi.rr.com
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/
(Your link on things that are truly important)
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| User: "Not Important" |
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22 Dec 2003 02:02:06 PM |
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" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:YLqdnQSOMO5kY3uiRVn-gg@locallink.net...
"Not Important" <someone@here.yea> wrote in message
news:oltFb.176004$Eq1.160973@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:Kr-dnb3ZKZ4O1Xui4p2dnA@locallink.net...
"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
No argument here................. :-)
I completely disagree with that statement. It's more fiction produced by
the
fanatical dogmatic Christians. Good intentions builds virtue, the road
to
heaven. Period.
It remains to be seen if current Western policies in Iraq build a road to
heaven or not. Western 'good intentions' brought Saddam into being in the
first place.
Do you REALLY believe that? Yes, America put Saddam in power. Was it well
intentioned?
Hell comes from anger, fear, and addictions.
It also comes from manipulating foreign nations to serve selfish
interests.
Greed is an addiction. It fits my statement.
The line was to
scare people into following the dogmas of the Church instead of their
conscience which is BAD advice.
Any 'policy', public or personal, that is not based in love will bring
grief.
But a person has to be careful not to call something love as a justification
for self-serving interests, which is not really love at all. This is an
instinct that all humans have to be watchful for.
--
Jim Scannell
jscannell@wi.rr.com
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/
(Your link on things that are truly important)
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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22 Dec 2003 02:28:01 PM |
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"Not Important" <someone@here.yea> wrote in message
news:15IFb.183666$M02.60573@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:YLqdnQSOMO5kY3uiRVn-gg@locallink.net...
"Not Important" <someone@here.yea> wrote in message
news:oltFb.176004$Eq1.160973@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:Kr-dnb3ZKZ4O1Xui4p2dnA@locallink.net...
"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
No argument here................. :-)
I completely disagree with that statement. It's more fiction produced
by
the
fanatical dogmatic Christians. Good intentions builds virtue, the road
to
heaven. Period.
It remains to be seen if current Western policies in Iraq build a road
to
heaven or not. Western 'good intentions' brought Saddam into being in
the
first place.
Do you REALLY believe that? Yes, America put Saddam in power. Was it well
intentioned?
It was for the people of power who put him in power. Beyond that the
creation of the 'State of Iraq" originally served the good intentions of the
French and the British who were trying to find a way to organize and
legitimize the harvesting of the wealth of the former land of
Nebuchadnezzar. They took it from the Turks. I don't know how well
intentioned the Ottomans were.
Hell comes from anger, fear, and addictions.
It also comes from manipulating foreign nations to serve selfish
interests.
Greed is an addiction. It fits my statement.
If greed's an addiction it's also a way of life for the "people of power".
It feeds a system that will increasingly control and manipulate resources
and human beings to serve the purposes of those in power. This system's
ultimate destiny is to become desolate because it's primary nature is to
consume, not nurture.
The line was to
scare people into following the dogmas of the Church instead of their
conscience which is BAD advice.
Any 'policy', public or personal, that is not based in love will bring
grief.
But a person has to be careful not to call something love as a
justification
for self-serving interests, which is not really love at all.
Couldn't agree with you more.
This is an
instinct that all humans have to be watchful for.
It's an instinct that needs to die. Greed, or anything else that serves
self, consumes. It consumes until it ultimately brings desolation then
consumes itself. We'll be seeing the end results of that eventually. You
can see it now in third world countries and elsewhere.
Love gives, nurtures, brings life, dies to self. Death to self is what
happens when we surrender to love. Love is not the way of the world. It's
the way of Spirit. Being connected to Spirit is the source of real life.
Being connected overcomes greed.
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27 Dec 2003 01:45:48 AM |
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"Not Important"
wrote:
Yes, America put Saddam in power.
Same old BS regurgitated over and over again.
Saddam came into power when the ruler of Iraq stepped down due to failing
health.
The USA had nothing to do with, nor any influence over the Baathe Party of Iraq
or Syria.
Tony
"Sometimes we don't need History at all."
Dani
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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21 Dec 2003 06:48:24 PM |
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On 21 Dec 2003 15:11:57 -0800, (Leigh_Bee)
wrote:
" John F Lemke" < > wrote in message news:<ruOdne0IJ5lnDniiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031221043304.29482.00000735@mb-m02.aol.com...
" John F Lemke"
wrote:
If GWB's economic programs succeed he'll be re-elected in a walk.
Americans
vote their pocketbooks. If people read Libya's capitulation on WMDs as
proof of the effectiveness of Bush's war on terror and his successes
continue he may just win by a landslide. >Even against Hillary. :-)
Good analysis, John.
The Dems only hope is for an economice crash and/or a disaster in Iraq.
This
explains there constant drone of negativeness.
Tony
With Iran opening to inspections of it's nuclear facilities can you imagine
how America and the world would react if N. Korea formally agreed to abandon
it's nuclear program and submit to the same inspections? Kim Il Jong
joining Muhammar in the community of nations? You gotta know they're
pushing for that hard. Eliminating threats by rogue nations, the axis of
evil, by force and by diplomacy? The Dow steadily above 10,000 for ten
months by the time of the elections. Jobless claims vanishing, employment
on the steady rise during this time. Could make for some of the most
effective campaign ads in history. He'd be unbeatable.
Moving to a new world order for sure.
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
He's the AntiChrist in motion
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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21 Dec 2003 07:31:31 PM |
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:tpfcuvo385thqk6c2o5to2ln3m5s6me8a8@4ax.com...
On 21 Dec 2003 15:11:57 -0800, (Leigh_Bee)
wrote:
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:<ruOdne0IJ5lnDniiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
Moving to a new world order for sure.
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
He's the AntiChrist in motion
Lots and lots of motion. The pastor at the AG I went to this morning says
"the anti-christ", and there are in my opinion many manifestations of
"anti-christ", will come out of the democratic client state we're setting up
in Iraq.
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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22 Dec 2003 03:17:10 AM |
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John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net>
wrote:
Lots and lots of motion. The pastor at the AG I went to this morning says
"the anti-christ", and there are in my opinion many manifestations of
"anti-christ", will come out of the democratic client state we're setting up
in Iraq.
Well he's right with respect to the fact that the AC will come from Iraq, even
it he's not Saddam.
Tony
"Sometimes we don't need History at all."
Dani
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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22 Dec 2003 08:55:33 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031222041710.15319.00001335@mb-m12.aol.com...
John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net>
wrote:
Lots and lots of motion. The pastor at the AG I went to this morning
says
"the anti-christ", and there are in my opinion many manifestations of
"anti-christ", will come out of the democratic client state we're setting
up
in Iraq.
Well he's right with respect to the fact that the AC will come from Iraq,
even
it he's not Saddam.
Tony
Seems to be the place that best fits the prophetic puzzle.
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| User: "Flyfish" |
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29 Dec 2003 12:58:59 PM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote in
news:20031222041710.15319.00001335@mb-m12.aol.com:
John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net>
wrote:
Lots and lots of motion. The pastor at the AG I went to this morning
says "the anti-christ", and there are in my opinion many
manifestations of "anti-christ", will come out of the democratic
client state we're setting up in Iraq.
Well he's right with respect to the fact that the AC will come from
Iraq, even it he's not Saddam.
Tony
"Sometimes we don't need History at all."
Dani
Hedging your bets?
Flyfish
--
"The difference between Congress and drunken sailors is that drunken
sailors are spending their own money."
-Rep. Tom Feeney (R.-Fla.), August 8, 2003.
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| User: "Saint Isidore of Seville" |
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29 Dec 2003 01:40:16 PM |
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Flyfish wrote in a reply:
<<
Hedging your bets?
Flyfish >>
I would but my hedge trimmers are broken
and besides the odds are to much against
my favorite side.
BTW, fly fishing is an art on the Usenet.
I received my Ph.D. in Fly Fishing from the
University of Pruneology.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Seville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
All I want to do is WOMP WOMP!!!!!
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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22 Dec 2003 03:26:17 AM |
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On 22 Dec 2003 09:17:10 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net>
wrote:
Lots and lots of motion. The pastor at the AG I went to this morning says
"the anti-christ", and there are in my opinion many manifestations of
"anti-christ", will come out of the democratic client state we're setting up
in Iraq.
Well he's right with respect to the fact that the AC will come from Iraq, even
it he's not Saddam.
Tony
Bush has turned Iraq into a colony. That makes him the current ruler
of Iraq.
There's your AntiChrist.
"Sometimes we don't need History at all."
Dani
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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21 Dec 2003 09:47:32 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:31:31 -0500, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:tpfcuvo385thqk6c2o5to2ln3m5s6me8a8@4ax.com...
On 21 Dec 2003 15:11:57 -0800, (Leigh_Bee)
wrote:
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:<ruOdne0IJ5lnDniiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
Moving to a new world order for sure.
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
He's the AntiChrist in motion
Lots and lots of motion. The pastor at the AG I went to this morning says
"the anti-christ", and there are in my opinion many manifestations of
"anti-christ", will come out of the democratic client state we're setting up
in Iraq.
"Democratic" client state? How about colony with a puppet government?
no charge for the translation
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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22 Dec 2003 08:26:40 AM |
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:tpfcuvo385thqk6c2o5to2ln3m5s6me8a8@4ax.com...
On 21 Dec 2003 15:11:57 -0800, (Leigh_Bee)
wrote:
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
news:<ruOdne0IJ5lnDniiRVn-iw@locallink.net>...
Moving to a new world order for sure.
But we know "the Road to Hell" is paved with good intentions!
LB
He's the AntiChrist in motion
Lots and lots of motion. The pastor at the AG I went to this morning
says
"the anti-christ", and there are in my opinion many manifestations of
"anti-christ", will come out of the democratic client state we're setting
up
in Iraq.
"Democratic" client state? How about colony with a puppet government?
Under the guise of a democracy. Semantics. Client state/puppet government?
no charge for the translation
No value to pay for.
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