http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/17/85557.shtml
Comment: It looks like the Intel reports received by CIA and U.S. gov.
in May 2001 and then in June-July 2001 may have come from a newspaper
quoting Saddam because he was somehow a stupid prophet? No! Or maybe
he just knew TOOOOOOOOO MUUUCCCCCHHH!
Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:54 a.m. EDT
Saddam Predicted bin Laden's 9/11 Attack
The 9/11 Commission claimed on Wednesday that there is "no evidence"
of cooperation between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden in attacks
against the U.S.
But the Commission's staff statement has nothing to say about an array
of evidence suggesting otherwise.
In fact, some of the most compelling evidence of a link comes from
Saddam Hussein himself, who warned before 9/11 in official government
publications that bin Laden would carry out a devastating attack
against America - and then effusively praised the 9/11 mastermind
after the attacks.
On July 21, 2001 - less than two months before 9/11 - the
state-controlled Iraqi newspaper Al-Nasiriya carried a column
headlined "America, An Obsession Called Osama Bin Ladin." In the
piece, Baath Party writer Naeem Abd Muhalhal predicted that bin Laden
would attack the U.S. "with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the
desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he
destroys the White House."
The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden "will
strike America on the arm that is already hurting," and that the U.S.
"will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs"
- an apparent reference to the Sinatra classic "New York, New York."
[Two 9/11 families were awarded over $100 million in May 2003 by U.S.
District Court Judge Harold Baer based on this and other evidence that
Iraq was involved in 9/11.]
Saddam's threats of a 9/11-style attack before 9/11 weren't limited to
that single report. In 1992, his son Uday used an editorial in Babil,
the newspaper he ran, to warn of Iraqi kamikaze attacks inside
America, saying, "Does the United States realize the meaning of every
Iraqi becoming a missile that can cross countries and cities?"
Then in the late 1990s, according to UPI, "a cable to Saddam from the
chief of Iraqi intelligence was transmitted by Baghdad Radio. The
message read, 'We will chase [Americans] to every corner at all times.
No high tower of steel will protect them against the fire of truth.'"
Coincidence? Perhaps.
But after the 9/11 attacks, Saddam became the only world leader to
offer praise for bin Laden, even as other terrorist leaders such as
Yasser Arafat went out of their way to make a show of sympathy to the
U.S. by donating blood to 9/11 victims on camera.
The day after the attacks, in quotes picked up by Agence France-Press,
Saddam proclaimed that "America is reaping the thorns planted by its
rulers in the world."
"There is hardly a place [in the world] that does not have a memorial
symbolizing the criminal actions committed by America against its
natives," AFP quoted the Iraqi dictator complaining, based on reports
in the Iraqi News agency.
After excoriating the U.S. for ending World War II by using nuclear
weapons, and for its involvement in Vietnam, Saddam gloated, "[He] who
does not want to reap evil must not sow it, and [he] who considers the
lives of his people precious must remember that the lives of the
people in the world are precious also."
"The American peoples should remember that no one ever crossed the
Atlantic carrying weapons to be used against them. They are the ones
who crossed the Atlantic carrying death, destruction and ugly
exploitation to the whole world."
A day later, Saddam told visiting Tunisian Foreign Minister Habib ben
Yahya, "America brought the hatred of the world upon itself."
For his part, Uday flat-out praised the 9/11 attacks, saying, "These
were courageous operations carried out by young Arabs and Muslims,"
according to quotes picked up by the Saudi daily Asharq al-Awsat.
Editor's note:
"CATASTROPHE" Reveals the Secret Story Behind 9/11
Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:
Al-Qaeda
Saddam Hussein/Iraq
9/11 Commission
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17 Jun 2004 09:40:30 PM |
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9/11 Commission Clearly Mislead the American Public in its findings.
White House Fights the Lefty Commission.
http://www.Michaelreport.com
Points of contention:
Bill Clinton said there was many links between Iraq and the
terrorists.
Saddam predicted the attacks on New York two months before, and then
praised them afterwards.
CIA and FBI said they blundered the Intelligence about the impending
attacks. They simply didn't know, they told the Congress in herings
related to 9/11.
CIA blocked Salman Pak and the terrorist training camp in Iraq that
sported a Boeing fuselage for hijacking training.
March 13, 1998, Senator John Kerry said: "Mr. President, we have every
reason to believe that Saddam Hussein will continue to do everything
in his power to further develop weapons of mass destruction and the
ability to deliver those weapons, and that he will use those weapons
without concern or pangs of conscience if ever and whenever his own
calculations persuade him it is in his interests to do so," said
Kerry.
Bill Clinton launch "Operation Desert Fox" late 1998- early 1999 a war
he claimed that Iraq was making Weapons of Mass Destruction.
The New York Post reported recently that three months before 911 Kerry
received an urgent video tape and packet warning him of terrorist
plans to hijack airplanes through his Logan International. He trashed
the report.
Sen. John Kerry, who approved the use of force against Saddam Hussein,
He was ready for war on Iraq in November 1997, according to statements
he made on a CNN debate show.
September 11, 1999 . Bill Clinton received a full terrorist profile
reports and plans of hijackings with a picture of the World trade
Towers as prime targets and said this is a trash report. Iraq was
clearly in the report as terrorist supporters.
The CIA had information about three of the Sept. 11 hijackers at least
20 months before the attacks occurred but failed to pass the
information on to other agencies, Yahoo News (AP).
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18 Jun 2004 08:33:57 AM |
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Oh course Iraq was involved in 9-11, that the Commission could find no hard
evidence of such, just means that Iraq went to great means to hide it's
involvement.
Tony
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18 Jun 2004 09:08:21 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040618093357.23053.00000226@mb-m07.aol.com...
Oh course Iraq was involved in 9-11,
LOL! You have information the commission doesn't have access too?
that the Commission could find no hard
evidence of such, just means that Iraq went to great means to hide it's
involvement.
Double LOL! There's no evidence to say the Polish government was involved -
that means they MUST have been, otherwise why would they go to such lengths
to hide it, right?
YOu're a hoot Mr Mischief, you really are..
Tony
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18 Jun 2004 02:33:37 PM |
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/20040617-3.html
This administration never said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated
between Saddam and al Qaeda.
—President Bush, in an exchange with reporters, June 17, 2004
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-1.html
[A]cting pursuant to the Constitution and [the Authorization for Use
of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002] is consistent with
the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary
actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations,
including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned,
authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on
September 11, 2001.
—President Bush, in a letter to Congress outlining the legal
justification for commencing war against Iraq, March 18, 2003
"tw" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:<causs6$oo1$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se>...
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040618093357.23053.00000226@mb-m07.aol.com...
Oh course Iraq was involved in 9-11,
LOL! You have information the commission doesn't have access too?
that the Commission could find no hard
evidence of such, just means that Iraq went to great means to hide it's
involvement.
Double LOL! There's no evidence to say the Polish government was involved -
that means they MUST have been, otherwise why would they go to such lengths
to hide it, right?
YOu're a hoot Mr Mischief, you really are..
Tony
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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18 Jun 2004 05:56:23 PM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote in message news:<20040618093357.23053.00000226@mb-m07.aol.com>...
Oh course Iraq was involved in 9-11, that the Commission could find no hard
evidence of such,
Or maybe Saddam knew about 9/11 and thought I wonder what those
dumbasses in the Pentagon will do when the big Wedgie strikes, should
be interesting to watch.
just means that Iraq went to great means to hide it's
involvement.
Tony
Of course being under siege from Georgie and Tony whilst this is going
on, with high tech listening devices etc.
LB
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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18 Jun 2004 09:48:45 AM |
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On 18 Jun 2004 13:33:57 GMT, TonyZ2001 depressed me with this news:
Oh course Iraq was involved in 9-11, that the Commission could find no hard
evidence of such, just means that Iraq went to great means to hide it's
involvement.
Tony
*sign*
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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17 Jun 2004 07:41:23 PM |
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Comment: 9/11 Panel Bob Kerry was a Clinton worker and biasman shown
in the hearings by his opinions that had nothing to do with the
investigation. Plus the CIA and FBI told congress they blundered the
Intel. So who can believe this 9/11 finding that Iraq had nothing to
do with Usama. The CIA said Clinton had no dealings with CCP. Yet U.S.
citizens found out he had a whole 20 year history with them. So what
is going on in Washington, besides Tenet getting fired ( He was
Clinton's boy)?
Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:13 p.m. EDT
Media Mislead on 9/11 Commission Finding on Iraq-al Qaida Link
Reports Wednesday morning that the 9/11 Commission has determined
there was no cooperation between Iraq and al-Qaida are completely
false - and are undoubtedly driven by the media's determination to
contradict the Bush administration's claims that such a link exists.
"9/11 Panel Says Iraq Rebuffed Bin Laden" reads the headline on the
Associated Press report on today's Commission staff statement.
But that's not what the Commission staff report actually said.
The below passage, for instance, does more to confirm the Bush
administration's claims of an Iraq-al Qaida link than it does to
contradict them.
"The Sudanese, to protect their own ties with Iraq, reportedly
persuaded Bin Ladin* to cease [support for anti-Saddam Islamists in
Northern Iraq] and arranged for contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda*.
"A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to
Sudan, finally meeting Bin Ladin in 1994. Bin Ladin is said to have
requested space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in
procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded." [Staff
Statement No. 15, Page 5]
Apparently never responded? How, pray tell, does the AP derive from
those words the conclusive claim that Iraq "rebuffed" bin Laden?
The Commission statement continues:
"There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda also
occurred after Bin Ladin had returned to Afghanistan, but they do not
appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship."
What's the evidence for this less-than-conclusive surmise?
"Two senior Bin Ladin associates have adamantly denied that any ties
existed between al Qaeda and Iraq," says the Commission.
Such a statement begs the question: Why does the Commission, let alone
the press, take the word of two senior bin Laden associates over, say,
Iraq's new prime minister, Iyad Allawi.
Last December he told the London Telegraph, "We are uncovering
evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda."
Reacting to the discovery of an Iraqi intelligence document placing
9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta in Baghdad two months before the attacks,
he continued:
"This is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so
far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he
had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."
In fact, nowhere does the Commission make the claim that Iraq and
al-Qaida never cooperated. What it does say is "We have no credible
evidence that Iraq and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the
United States." [NewsMax italics]
Apparently Dr. Allawi's asssement counts for nothing.
Even so, it's worth noting that elsewhere in today's staff statement,
the 9/11 Commission asserts:
"With al Qaeda at its foundation, Bin Ladin sought to build a broader
Islamic Army that included terrorist groups from Egypt, Libya, Saudi
Arabia and Oman, Tunisia, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Morocco, Somalia, and
Eritrea. Not all [terrorist] groups from these states agreed to join,
but at least one from each did." [Staff Statement No. 15, Page 3]
In other words, at least one terror group from Iraq did form an
alliance with bin Laden.
Another problem: If the press is going to take today's staff statement
as gospel, certain long-held media assumptions will need to be
drastically revised, such as the widely accepted notion that al-Qaida
was involved in the first World Trade Center bombing.
Not true, says the Commission.
"Whether Bin Ladin and his organization had roles in the 1993 attack
on the World Trade Center ... remains a matter of substantial
uncertainty," the staff statement says, before insisting, "We have no
conclusive evidence" of a bin Laden link. [Staff Statement No. 15,
Page 6]
The same goes for "Operation Bojinka," the 1995 plot to hijack 12
airliners hatched by Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that
experts say was the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks.
"[Mohammed] was not, however, an al Qaeda member at the time of the
Manilla [Bojinka] plot," Commission staffers say, even though they
acknowledge that he went on to mastermind the 9/11 attacks.
The press is furiously spinning the 9/11 Commission staff statement in
a bid to discredit the Bush administration. Americans should go to the
Sept. 11 Commission Web site and read the conclusions for themselves:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/
* Commission spellings
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/16/132355.shtml
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17 Jun 2004 03:19:17 PM |
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Fresh from an Iraqi prisoner interrogation (Michael Johnathan McDonald) smirked:
The 9/11 Commission claimed on Wednesday that there is "no evidence"
of cooperation between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden in attacks
against the U.S.
But the Commission's staff statement has nothing to say about an array
of evidence suggesting otherwise.
Yes, we KNOW you're smarter than they are, and have access
to MUCH more evidence, and have interviewed all those involved,
AND just KNOW more than they do.
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