Tidal waves which could swamp the eastern seaboard of the Americas are a
more pressing concern than the chance of an asteroid causing mass
destruction, according to scientists studying natural disasters.
Scientist Bill McGuire has told a news conference tens of millions of
people along the eastern seaboard of the United States and Canada may
drown if the slow slippage of a volcano off north Africa becomes a
cataclysmic collapse.
Professor McGuire, from the Benfield
Grieg Hazard Research Centre, says that some time in the next few
thousand years, the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the
Canary Island of La Palma will collapse.
He says that would send walls of water 100 metres high racing across the
Atlantic.
A chunk of the volcano the size of a small island began to slide into
the ocean in 1949. There is almost no monitoring of the volcano, giving
virtually no chance of any advance warning of an eruption which could
trigger the catastrophe.
"The US Government must be aware of the threat," Professor McGuire said.
"I am sure they are not taking it seriously. They certainly should be
worried, as should the island states of the Caribbean."
He says the tsunami triggered by such a collapse would hit the other
islands of the Spanish-owned Canaries within an hour and reach the north
African coast within two hours.
--Monitoring--
Between seven and 10 hours later, waves still several tens of metres
tall and travelling at the speed of a jet plane would swamp the
Caribbean and crash into the eastern seaboards of South and North
America.
Professor McGuire has urged the governments of Spain and the United
States to fund monitoring of the volcanically active La Palma, a project
he says would be relatively cheap.
He says the slow collapse - started by an eruption in 1949 - would
almost certainly be turned catastrophic by another eruption of the
volcano, which erupts every 25 to 200 years.
The last eruption was in 1971 and prior to 1949, the previous eruption
was in 1712.
"A future president of the United States must make a call on what to do
when La Palma collapses," Professor McGuire said.
On a brighter note, scientist Benny Peiser of John Moores University in
Liverpool told the same news conference that the threat of a cataclysmic
strike on the earth by a large asteroid was fading rapidly as money was
pumped into finding them.
He says that within 10 to 30 years, all the near-earth asteroids will
have been charted and scientists believe they can find a way to steer an
asteroid out of the way of the earth, as long as they have enough
warning it is coming.
-- Reuters
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1172546.htm
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09 Aug 2004 09:49:28 PM |
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(Su Zanne) wrote in message news:<29754-4117B692-62@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>...
Tidal waves which could swamp the eastern seaboard of the Americas are a
more pressing concern than the chance of an asteroid causing mass
destruction, according to scientists studying natural disasters.
Scientist Bill McGuire has told a news conference tens of millions of
people along the eastern seaboard of the United States and Canada may
drown if the slow slippage of a volcano off north Africa becomes a
cataclysmic collapse.
Professor McGuire, from the Benfield
Grieg Hazard Research Centre, says that some time in the next few
thousand years, the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the
Canary Island of La Palma will collapse.
He says that would send walls of water 100 metres high racing across the
Atlantic.
A chunk of the volcano the size of a small island began to slide into
the ocean in 1949. There is almost no monitoring of the volcano, giving
virtually no chance of any advance warning of an eruption which could
trigger the catastrophe.
"The US Government must be aware of the threat," Professor McGuire said.
"I am sure they are not taking it seriously. They certainly should be
worried, as should the island states of the Caribbean."
He says the tsunami triggered by such a collapse would hit the other
islands of the Spanish-owned Canaries within an hour and reach the north
African coast within two hours.
--Monitoring--
Between seven and 10 hours later, waves still several tens of metres
tall and travelling at the speed of a jet plane would swamp the
Caribbean and crash into the eastern seaboards of South and North
America.
Professor McGuire has urged the governments of Spain and the United
States to fund monitoring of the volcanically active La Palma, a project
he says would be relatively cheap.
He says the slow collapse - started by an eruption in 1949 - would
almost certainly be turned catastrophic by another eruption of the
volcano, which erupts every 25 to 200 years.
The last eruption was in 1971 and prior to 1949, the previous eruption
was in 1712.
"A future president of the United States must make a call on what to do
when La Palma collapses," Professor McGuire said.
On a brighter note, scientist Benny Peiser of John Moores University in
Liverpool told the same news conference that the threat of a cataclysmic
strike on the earth by a large asteroid was fading rapidly as money was
pumped into finding them.
He says that within 10 to 30 years, all the near-earth asteroids will
have been charted and scientists believe they can find a way to steer an
asteroid out of the way of the earth, as long as they have enough
warning it is coming.
-- Reuters
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1172546.htm
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Thank-U, sweetie-powder-puffs ;-) -- U have made your Uncle Wally 's
day !!!
Hooroo ;-)
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10 Aug 2004 05:20:10 PM |
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(Su Zanne) wrote in message news:<29754-4117B692-62@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>...
Tidal waves which could swamp the eastern seaboard of the Americas are a
more pressing concern than the chance of an asteroid causing mass
destruction, according to scientists studying natural disasters.
Scientist Bill McGuire has told a news conference tens of millions of
people along the eastern seaboard of the United States and Canada may
drown if the slow slippage of a volcano off north Africa becomes a
cataclysmic collapse.
Professor McGuire, from the Benfield
Grieg Hazard Research Centre, says that some time in the next few
thousand years, the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the
Canary Island of La Palma will collapse.
He says that would send walls of water 100 metres high racing across the
Atlantic.
A chunk of the volcano the size of a small island began to slide into
the ocean in 1949. There is almost no monitoring of the volcano, giving
virtually no chance of any advance warning of an eruption which could
trigger the catastrophe.
SNIP
-- Reuters
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1172546.htm
The wall/s of water would probably go both ways, ie East and West, but
of course they have also discovered that freak waves are more numerous
than previously thought.
So wax that board, and ride that tube to Arkansas!
LB
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10 Aug 2004 06:11:09 PM |
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Leigh wrote:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1172546.htm
The wall/s of water would probably go
both ways, ie East and West, but of
course they have also discovered that
freak waves are more numerous than
previously thought.
I distinctly remember when a 100 foot high rogue wave hit Daytona Beach.
So wax that board, and ride that tube to
Arkansas! LB
Thanks.... :)
I love an optimist!
At least it would be quick. Smashed to smithereens as you become one
with the sea.
Here's a "wave" of information I found interesting.
Most tsunamis are caused by a sudden vertical displacement of the sea
floor (an earthquake). Usually, an earthquake greater than about 6.5 on
the Richter Scale (a very strong earthquake) is required to produce a
tsunami. However, not all strong earthquakes cause tsunamis. Those that
result from horizontal displacement, such as the San Andreas fault in
California, don't produce tsunamis. Also, the most powerful tsunamis
result from quakes that have relatively shallow origins, less than about
30 miles (about 50 kilometers) below the surface.
After a violent earthquake, tsunamis may be produced that have a length
of perhaps 600 miles and can move at speeds that exceed 500 miles per
hour. They can travel thousands of miles with little loss of energy. An
earthquake in Chile in 1960 caused 61 deaths in Hilo, Hawaii. In the
open ocean, they may only be the size of other waves and might go
unnoticed by ships, but as they approach shallow water, they slow down
and the wave height increases dramatically, sometimes coming ashore more
than 100 feet above the normal sea level. There've been reports of
fisherman returning to their village to find that it's been devastated
by a tsunami that passed harmlessly beneath their boats a short while
before.
A tsunami event consists of a series of waves. The time between the
first and last wave may be a few minutes or an hour or two, and it's not
the first wave that's the most destructive. Tsunami damage is generally
greatest along coasts where the offshore slope is very steep. If they
approach a coast such as this, they may travel inland for more than a
mile if the coast is fairly flat. An interesting behavior associated
with some tsunamis is the retreat of sea water prior to the arrival of
the tsunami. Sometimes, this resembles an unusually low tide, and people
are lured onto the beach only to be swamped by the onrushing wave.
However, the wave doesn't crash on shore at the same speed as it travels
in the open ocean. Quite often the waves advance and "run-up" at about
the same speed a person can run (we all tend to move a bit like Michael
Johnson or Carl Lewis in these situations).
A landslide into a lake or bay can also cause mountainous waves. The
effect here is like bath water sloshing back and forth in a tub. It was
reported that a rockslide following an earthquake at Gilbert Inlet,
Alaska produced a surge of water that climbed over 1000 ft up the
opposite side of the lake where the rockslide occurred and then the
water returned to the side where the rock faltered, again climbing the
cliffs that contained the lake. In 1963, in Italy, a rockslide into a
lake produced a surge of water that killed over 3000 people!
Landslides below the shore line can of course also produce huge waves.
Rogue waves have only been recently (in the last twenty years or so)
recognized as being something different from tsunamis.
As the name implies, these freak waves have an unpredictable nature and
appear unexpectedly in calm weather and benign seas. Little is known
about these things, but it seems that they occur as a result of unique
circumstances when the energy from regularly-spaced ocean swells is
magnified by currents or vortices (whirlpool-like) to form an enormous
wave. In effect, the spacing of the swells is changed so that the energy
of many waves is focused into a single wave.
A place where several rogue waves have been observed and felt by a few
supertankers is off the southeast coast of South Africa. Rogue waves
have also been documented in the Atlantic Ocean. In fact, "The
"Baltimore Clipper," a tall sailing ship, was sunk by such a wave in the
1980s near the Bahama Islands. A few years ago, a rogue wave crashed
on-shore at Daytona Beach, Florida.
Luckily, this happened during the night when the beach was empty.
In 1942, a giant wave hit the Queen Mary about 700 miles west of
Scotland, carrying 15,000 soldiers bound for England. The force of this
wave was enough to roll the huge ocean liner on its side, but somehow it
righted itself and continued its voyage to England.
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11 Aug 2004 06:10:26 PM |
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(Su Zanne) wrote in message news:<8995-4119560D-416@storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net>...
Leigh wrote:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1172546.htm
The wall/s of water would probably go
both ways, ie East and West, but of
course they have also discovered that
freak waves are more numerous than
previously thought.
I distinctly remember when a 100 foot high rogue wave hit Daytona Beach.
So wax that board, and ride that tube to
Arkansas! LB
Thanks.... :)
I love an optimist!
At least it would be quick. Smashed to smithereens as you become one
with the sea.
What else could you do?
Here's a "wave" of information I found interesting.
Most tsunamis are caused by a sudden vertical displacement of the sea
floor (an earthquake). Usually, an earthquake greater than about 6.5 on
the Richter Scale (a very strong earthquake) is required to produce a
tsunami. However, not all strong earthquakes cause tsunamis. Those that
result from horizontal displacement, such as the San Andreas fault in
California, don't produce tsunamis. Also, the most powerful tsunamis
result from quakes that have relatively shallow origins, less than about
30 miles (about 50 kilometers) below the surface.
SNIP> In 1942, a giant wave hit the Queen Mary about 700 miles west of
Scotland, carrying 15,000 soldiers bound for England. The force of this
wave was enough to roll the huge ocean liner on its side, but somehow it
righted itself and continued its voyage to England.
Most interesting, but recently by satellite they reckon there can be
up to 100+ freak waves at any one time on the planet!
That is apparently why a lot of cargo vessels go down, by not being
built to withstand such high water wall.
LB
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13 Aug 2004 12:56:26 AM |
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(Leigh_Bee) wrote in message news:<39cd5fe.0408111510.54ec047a@posting.google.com>...
tugbertswife@webtv.net (Su Zanne) wrote in message news:<8995-4119560D-416@storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net>...
Leigh wrote:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1172546.htm
The wall/s of water would probably go
both ways, ie East and West, but of
course they have also discovered that
freak waves are more numerous than
previously thought.
I distinctly remember when a 100 foot high rogue wave hit Daytona Beach.
So wax that board, and ride that tube to
Arkansas! LB
Thanks.... :)
I love an optimist!
At least it would be quick. Smashed to smithereens as you become one
with the sea.
What else could you do?
Here's a "wave" of information I found interesting.
Most tsunamis are caused by a sudden vertical displacement of the sea
floor (an earthquake). Usually, an earthquake greater than about 6.5 on
the Richter Scale (a very strong earthquake) is required to produce a
tsunami. However, not all strong earthquakes cause tsunamis. Those that
result from horizontal displacement, such as the San Andreas fault in
California, don't produce tsunamis. Also, the most powerful tsunamis
result from quakes that have relatively shallow origins, less than about
30 miles (about 50 kilometers) below the surface.
SNIP> In 1942, a giant wave hit the Queen Mary about 700 miles west of
Scotland, carrying 15,000 soldiers bound for England. The force of this
wave was enough to roll the huge ocean liner on its side, but somehow it
righted itself and continued its voyage to England.
Most interesting, but recently by satellite they reckon there can be
up to 100+ freak waves at any one time on the planet!
That is apparently why a lot of cargo vessels go down, by not being
built to withstand such high water wall.
LB
Yeppers ;-) I heard that on ABC newsradio !!
It was all Truly Wondrous - yes siree yes indeedy do ;-)
Hooroo ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
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09 Aug 2004 05:07:19 PM |
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Yes! This was the premise of a terrorist attack in my novel "Meridian" which
won for Science Fiction "Book of the Year" in ForeWord Magazine's Annual
competition. (2002) I used this research and the work of Dr. Simon Day as
background for the novel. You can read more about it here:
http://dharma6.com/html/meridian.htm
--
John - The Writing Shop: Writing, Web Design, Digital Publishing
http://www.writingshop.ws
"Su Zanne" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29754-4117B692-62@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...
Tidal waves which could swamp the eastern seaboard of the Americas are a
more pressing concern than the chance of an asteroid causing mass
destruction, according to scientists studying natural disasters.
Scientist Bill McGuire has told a news conference tens of millions of
people along the eastern seaboard of the United States and Canada may
drown if the slow slippage of a volcano off north Africa becomes a
cataclysmic collapse.
Professor McGuire, from the Benfield
Grieg Hazard Research Centre, says that some time in the next few
thousand years, the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the
Canary Island of La Palma will collapse.
He says that would send walls of water 100 metres high racing across the
Atlantic.
A chunk of the volcano the size of a small island began to slide into
the ocean in 1949. There is almost no monitoring of the volcano, giving
virtually no chance of any advance warning of an eruption which could
trigger the catastrophe.
"The US Government must be aware of the threat," Professor McGuire said.
"I am sure they are not taking it seriously. They certainly should be
worried, as should the island states of the Caribbean."
He says the tsunami triggered by such a collapse would hit the other
islands of the Spanish-owned Canaries within an hour and reach the north
African coast within two hours.
--Monitoring--
Between seven and 10 hours later, waves still several tens of metres
tall and travelling at the speed of a jet plane would swamp the
Caribbean and crash into the eastern seaboards of South and North
America.
Professor McGuire has urged the governments of Spain and the United
States to fund monitoring of the volcanically active La Palma, a project
he says would be relatively cheap.
He says the slow collapse - started by an eruption in 1949 - would
almost certainly be turned catastrophic by another eruption of the
volcano, which erupts every 25 to 200 years.
The last eruption was in 1971 and prior to 1949, the previous eruption
was in 1712.
"A future president of the United States must make a call on what to do
when La Palma collapses," Professor McGuire said.
On a brighter note, scientist Benny Peiser of John Moores University in
Liverpool told the same news conference that the threat of a cataclysmic
strike on the earth by a large asteroid was fading rapidly as money was
pumped into finding them.
He says that within 10 to 30 years, all the near-earth asteroids will
have been charted and scientists believe they can find a way to steer an
asteroid out of the way of the earth, as long as they have enough
warning it is coming.
-- Reuters
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1172546.htm
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09 Aug 2004 06:18:13 PM |
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"JS" <dharma7@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:rASRc.2870$_b4.223@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
Yes! This was the premise of a terrorist attack in my novel "Meridian"
which
won for Science Fiction "Book of the Year" in ForeWord Magazine's Annual
competition. (2002)
Somebody got to watch out for terrorists - maybe the lighthouse keeper
on Los Palmas can do double-duty.
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09 Aug 2004 05:28:31 PM |
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dharma7@pacbell.net (JS) wrote:
Yes! This was the premise of a terrorist
attack in my novel "Meridian" which won
for Science Fiction "Book of the Year" in
ForeWord Magazine's Annual
competition. (2002) I used this research
and the work of Dr. Simon Day as
background for the novel. You can read
more about it here: >http://dharma6.com/html/meridian.htm
You WON!! :)
I'm jumping up and down for you!
I'll have to read it now.
Su Zanne
--
John - The Writing Shop: Writing, Web
Design, Digital Publishing
http://www.writingshop.ws
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11 Aug 2004 01:10:58 PM |
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If a FLA resident - I'd be very concerned
about the twin hurricanes coming at the
state from both sides at pressent.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all 21 universes constantly and at random.
Oh Joy & Lysergically Yours!
Tom
The Psychedelick Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
Saint Isadore of Laytonville
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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11 Aug 2004 03:12:01 PM |
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Tadapope wrote:
If a FLA resident - I'd be very concerned
about the twin hurricanes coming at the
state from both sides at present.
I am very concerned for my "Keys".
I feel fairly safe just a little inland of the St. Augustine area at the
time. We will just have to wait and see.
I do know I am staying put after watching everybody get stranded and
I-95 turned into a parking lot when they tried to evacuate for Floyd a
few years back.
It was a nightmare, I tell you. All the gas stations were closed except
for a few that were open at the pumps only for credit card and atm
purchases.
Cars were overheating, breaking down, no place to get them repaired. No
place to get milk or formula for babies and NO BEER for adults! :-O
But I really do feel for the residents of the Keys, so narrow and
vulnerable......they have one road in and have to use the same one to
get out. Just an accident on US-1 alone will shut them down. 2 days in a
row that we were there they had a motorcycle vs. a truck accident on the
7 mile bridge with 2 fatalities :(
which shut down the Keys for 7 hours. It happened just minutes after we
crossed it heading to KW.
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/9259034.htm
And the day before that a tractor trailer wrecked on a bridge at Long
Key and shut down US-1 for 6 hours. Check out this picture! The trailer
is dangling off the bridge being held by one wheel!
http://www.local10.com/news/3577065/detail.html
So can you imagine the chaos if they had to evacuate? The accidents!
And some of those islands are only accessible by boat.
So keep your fingers crossed for them, we will be fine. We have been
thru this many times before. If our electricity and phones get cut
off......I'll call you on my cell and give you updates! ;)
Well, I must go now.......I have to get the twin albino armadillos and
our pet gator "babe" inside to a safe dry place. ;)
Su Zanne
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09 Aug 2004 05:48:07 PM |
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In article <rASRc.2870$_b4.223@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>, "JS" <dharma7@pacbell.net> wrote:
Yes! This was the premise of a terrorist attack in my novel "Meridian" which
won for Science Fiction "Book of the Year" in ForeWord Magazine's Annual
competition. (2002) I used this research and the work of Dr. Simon Day as
background for the novel. You can read more about it here:
http://dharma6.com/html/meridian.htm
Oh, I was looking for another Sci Fi book to read, maybe I'll pick this one up.
But baaaad you, writing your own reviews on amazon! ;-)
Woods
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10 Aug 2004 06:17:09 AM |
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Hey Woods......
The SCIFI Channel had some cool movies on over the weekend, one of them
was "Night of the Comet" with Kelly Maroney who used to be on "Ryan's
Hope".
Don't forget to keep your eye to the sky late tonight. Supposed to be
spectacular! ;)
Su Zanne
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11 Aug 2004 10:49:22 PM |
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fxxx will we all die?
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