Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
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One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
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One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
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One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago. But only one
way to prove it and i is in the future. It is Nostradamus.
I don't expect from anyone to believe me on that even if it will become
a fact one day. Times are not ripe. And there is a rationalization
outside God for every phenomena in the Universe, except "this" (the
prophecies). But "this" has first to be clearly understood by a vast
majority, and we are not there.
J.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
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One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years
ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
That is what they are trying to do, but alas, all efforts to produce a
tree from scratch have utterly failed! And even when they do succeed,
by either forging somewhat or indeed succeed they may only have
discovered how God did it.
What is even more. They cannot ever proof beyond any reasonble
doubt that their theories are right. We don't have a time machine to
check wether it happened as they say it did, nor do we have
another planet Earth and 5 billion years to duplicate the whole thing.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago. But only one
way to prove it and i is in the future. It is Nostradamus.
If you study enough you will soon find out that God exists.
I don't expect from anyone to believe me on that even if it will become
a fact one day. Times are not ripe. And there is a rationalization
outside God for every phenomena in the Universe, except "this" (the
prophecies). But "this" has first to be clearly understood by a vast
majority, and we are not there.
And not only the possible prophecies of Nostradamus, but also the
history of myths and prophecies of other cultures.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
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<<
One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years
ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
That is what they are trying to do, but alas, all efforts to produce a
tree from scratch have utterly failed! And even when they do succeed,
by either forging somewhat or indeed succeed they may only have
discovered how God did it.
A tree? We are talking unicellular organism with this science.
Micro-organism. From there on, it is a matter of evolution, not bio-genesis.
What is even more. They cannot ever proof beyond any reasonble
doubt that their theories are right. We don't have a time machine to
check wether it happened as they say it did, nor do we have
another planet Earth and 5 billion years to duplicate the whole thing.
Of course, it is reenactment from indirect experiment rationalization,
short of recounting from direct experience. There could always be some
unsuspected factor.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago. But only one
way to prove it and i is in the future. It is Nostradamus.
If you study enough you will soon find out that God exists.
Maybe, but I am not so sure that the logic of science has anything to do
with it (yet).
I don't expect from anyone to believe me on that even if it will become
a fact one day. Times are not ripe. And there is a rationalization
outside God for every phenomena in the Universe, except "this" (the
prophecies). But "this" has first to be clearly understood by a vast
majority, and we are not there.
And not only the possible prophecies of Nostradamus, but also the
history of myths and prophecies of other cultures.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Who knows...
J.
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
6
<<
One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years
ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago. But only one
way to prove it and i is in the future. It is Nostradamus.
I don't expect from anyone to believe me on that even if it will become
a fact one day. Times are not ripe. And there is a rationalization
outside God for every phenomena in the Universe, except "this" (the
prophecies). But "this" has first to be clearly understood by a vast
majority, and we are not there.
J.
Yes, I knew a priest who believed the same as you. He explained that the
creation myth was a way of explaining evolution so that the people of that
time could understand, but that god was still the basis of it.
Jane
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
6
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One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years
ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago. But only one
way to prove it and i is in the future. It is Nostradamus.
I don't expect from anyone to believe me on that even if it will become
a fact one day. Times are not ripe. And there is a rationalization
outside God for every phenomena in the Universe, except "this" (the
prophecies). But "this" has first to be clearly understood by a vast
majority, and we are not there.
J.
Yes, I knew a priest who believed the same as you. He explained that the
creation myth was a way of explaining evolution so that the people of that
time could understand, but that god was still the basis of it.
Jane
Well, the creation of the Universe is expressed in vague terms up to the
terrestrial paradise. But it is uncanny that the chronology from the
times Adam was chased out of it, from the time he was made aware of good
and evil, (Nostradamus quotes the two main biblical chronology), is the
times when communication through writing appeared, later in fact, then
civilizations started getting built.
There is something to that, even if before that it is more of imagery.
J.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 05:01:51 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Jane a écrit:
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
6
<<
One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years
ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago. But only one
way to prove it and i is in the future. It is Nostradamus.
I don't expect from anyone to believe me on that even if it will become
a fact one day. Times are not ripe. And there is a rationalization
outside God for every phenomena in the Universe, except "this" (the
prophecies). But "this" has first to be clearly understood by a vast
majority, and we are not there.
J.
Yes, I knew a priest who believed the same as you. He explained that the
creation myth was a way of explaining evolution so that the people of that
time could understand, but that god was still the basis of it.
That's is my view too (masonic or not) ;-)
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12 Sep 2004 09:12:34 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:59:36 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jane a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
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news:15460-4140E1F7-266@storefull-3217.bay.webtv.net...
Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
6
<<
One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago.
Hmmm....that's a masonic doctrine.
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12 Sep 2004 03:55:48 PM |
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Interesting. How do you know?
J.
Cuan a écrit:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:59:36 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jane a écrit:
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
6
<<
One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago.
Hmmm....that's a masonic doctrine.
.
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14 Sep 2004 05:49:57 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:55:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Interesting. How do you know?
Because I looked it up, dummy. This is how we learn things, Jean. We
investigate them. I'm sure there's a good soul out there who can show
you how it's done.
Cuan a écrit:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:59:36 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jane a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
6
<<
One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago.
Hmmm....that's a masonic doctrine.
.
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14 Sep 2004 08:10:02 AM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:55:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Interesting. How do you know?
Because I looked it up, dummy. This is how we learn things, Jean. We
investigate them. I'm sure there's a good soul out there who can show
you how it's done.
Bah, so you are telling me that Masonic also believe that God created
the world and is beyond his creation. This is the belief of any believer
n the world. I ask you, how do you know Masonic also believe that. You
are supposed to show how you know, where you took that dubious
information, a masonic link that speaks of the creation of the world by
God. You are the one who licks the ***** of Barbarossa who says they are
satanic. Have they suddenly become fans of God as well to suit your
agenda? Or maybe they are not. Then are you saying that Barbarossa is an
idiot now?
Anyway, let's see where you took that from so we know.
I am waiting... tap tap tap...
J.
Cuan a écrit:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:59:36 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jane a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
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"Su Zanadu" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> schreef in bericht
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Scientists find secret of life... in the stars
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
10 September 2004
A massive impact with a giant asteroid could have kick-started life on
Earth more than four billion years ago by providing an ideal environment
for incubating the world's first lifeform.
Scientists studying an impact crater in the Arctic have found evidence
to suggest that asteroids hitting the Earth can help life to flourish as
well as cause catastrophic destruction.
Charles Cockell, of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, said
analysis of rocks in the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island, Nunavut
Territory, Canada, has shown how asteroids can help life to flourish.
The intense heat of an asteroid impact causes rock minerals to
vapourise, leaving tiny cracks and crevices inside the rock where
microbes can live.
"We've discovered that rocks inside the crater are more heavily
colonised by microbes than the rocks outside the crater," Dr Cockell
told the British Association Festival of Science being held in Exeter.
"So what we have here is an example of how impact events can create a
habitat for life and not merely act as agents of destruction," he said.
The Haughton crater was created 25 million years ago when an asteroid
about a kilometre wide hit Earth, releasing energy equivalent to about
1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs.
"When they hit the ground most of the energy is released as heat and one
of the effects of that is to provide the energy for simple organic
compounds to form more complex compounds," Dr Cockell said.
The heat from a similar impact about four billion years ago could have
lasted for between 1,000 and a million years. This may have kept any
water collecting within the crater at a constant warm temperature,
providing an ideal environment for the origins of life.
"It is one of the rare instances where asteroids and comets could
actually be good for life," Dr Cockell said.
"There's a growing feeling that as well as being beneficial in terms of
habitat, impact events can also improve conditions for the evolution of
life in the first place.
As well as telling us something about evolution on Earth, these impact
craters may be relevant for the search for life elsewhere," he added.
Meanwhile, methane gas has been found on Mars. The only explanation for
the gas is undiscovered volcanic activity or primitive underground life,
Andrew Coates, a British scientist at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, told the Festival of Science yesterday.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=56006
6
<<
One problem is that according to the evolutionairies 25 million years ago
life already existed on Earth. So for life already there it is simple to
indeed
move into this tiny holes in rocks.
But what to do when you have no life? Then you have nothing to crawl
into those tiny holes.
Fact remains that evolutionairies don't have a single clue how life was
actually formed on this planet. Yet, they claim that you don't need a
God at all for that. Total ignorance versus clear statement.
And what clear statement is that?
Jane
The fact is that biogenesis is a science explains the formation of life.
It still doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He is at the origin of the
big bang that made all that happen 14.7 billion years ago.
Hmmm....that's a masonic doctrine.
.
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14 Sep 2004 09:55:54 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Cuan a écrit:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:55:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Interesting. How do you know?
Because I looked it up, dummy. This is how we learn things, Jean. We
investigate them. I'm sure there's a good soul out there who can show
you how it's done.
Bah, so you are telling me that Masonic also believe that God created
the world and is beyond his creation. This is the belief of any believer
n the world. I ask you, how do you know Masonic also believe that. You
are supposed to show how you know, where you took that dubious
information, a masonic link that speaks of the creation of the world by
God. You are the one who licks the ***** of Barbarossa who says they are
satanic. Have they suddenly become fans of God as well to suit your
agenda? Or maybe they are not. Then are you saying that Barbarossa is an
idiot now?
Anyway, let's see where you took that from so we know.
I am waiting... tap tap tap...
Freemasons do not believe that God, our Father in the Heavens, created all
there is. It is their believe that a "grand architect of the universe" is
the creator
of everything. They insist that all religions just pray to the same god.
They
insist that God, Allah, Vishnu and others are just names for the same thing.
This
cannot be right. If we read the Holy Bible we can read in the Book Job that
God has sons, one of them is Satan. In the new testamony Jesus is also
refered
to as Son of God. On the other hand, if you read the Quoran you will find
that
Allah has no sons at all. So, the freemasons do not praise to the God of the
Holy Bible, father of Satan and Jesus.
One of the "bibles" for Freemasons are the books by Helena Petrovna
Blavatsky. Those books are: Isis Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine.
These are extracts out of her books:
"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty..
Independence.. Lucifer is the Logos.. the Serpent, the Savior." pages 171,
225, 255 (Volume II)
"It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God." pages 215, 216,
220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)
"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at
one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in
antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine
and terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and 'Satan' at one and the same
time." page 539
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky 32°
The Secret Doctrine
---------------------------------------------
So, it is clear who is God in the eyes of Freemasons.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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14 Sep 2004 04:39:11 PM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<41470643$0$11233$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
So, it is clear who is God in the eyes of Freemasons.
So again you have no clue; I , Being from the birth fold can clue you
in. There are levels - and these levels never tell one the truth until
you get to the tippedy-top - then you learn the controversy and what
Blabbski attested too as their supreme god. Like all fraternities,
there are secrets at different levels ( Usually much of this is just
history of that fraternity) – she happened not to be at the top. She
speculated. She was an outsider. She did not know the truth.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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14 Sep 2004 07:27:09 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
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So, it is clear who is God in the eyes of Freemasons.
So again you have no clue; I , Being from the birth fold can clue you
in. There are levels - and these levels never tell one the truth until
you get to the tippedy-top - then you learn the controversy and what
Blabbski attested too as their supreme god. Like all fraternities,
there are secrets at different levels ( Usually much of this is just
history of that fraternity) - she happened not to be at the top. She
speculated. She was an outsider. She did not know the truth.
She was 32° degree mason, only 33° degrees are in her rite. She was
not allowed to be 33° because she was a woman. Her books are the
holy bible of the freemasonry.
How do we know? Although international operating secret societies
work hard on keeping their satanic agendas hidden, sometimes by
accident information leaks or a freemason leaves the fraternity and opens
up.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jane" |
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14 Sep 2004 05:42:28 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
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So, it is clear who is God in the eyes of Freemasons.
So again you have no clue; I , Being from the birth fold can clue you
in.
What is the "birth fold"? Curious expression!
Jane
There are levels - and these levels never tell one the truth until
you get to the tippedy-top - then you learn the controversy and what
Blabbski attested too as their supreme god. Like all fraternities,
there are secrets at different levels ( Usually much of this is just
history of that fraternity) - she happened not to be at the top. She
speculated. She was an outsider. She did not know the truth.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<jtK1d.11355$0h7.888330@news20.bellglobal.com>...
What is the "birth fold"? Curious expression!
I was born with my name on the register of the Masons - thus *birth*.
A flock of sheep not necessarily all blood related is also called a *fold*.
Thus a cute, and better discripted way of saying 'extended family.' :-)
Jane
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15 Sep 2004 04:07:42 AM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What is the "birth fold"? Curious expression!
I was born with my name on the register of the Masons - thus *birth*.
A flock of sheep not necessarily all blood related is also called a
*fold*.
Thus a cute, and better discripted way of saying 'extended family.' :-)
Thanks. I had never heard of that before.
Jane
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| User: "Cuan" |
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15 Sep 2004 07:20:47 AM |
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On 14 Sep 2004 19:24:55 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<jtK1d.11355$0h7.888330@news20.bellglobal.com>...
What is the "birth fold"? Curious expression!
I was born with my name on the register of the Masons - thus *birth*.
A flock of sheep not necessarily all blood related is also called a *fold*.
Thus a cute, and better discripted way of saying 'extended family.' :-)
I like the sheep analogy. Thanks.
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15 Sep 2004 07:05:19 PM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<gpcgk0d4i270e114a2gcgts0t7j5oi0l28@4ax.com>...
On 14 Sep 2004 19:24:55 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<jtK1d.11355$0h7.888330@news20.bellglobal.com>...
What is the "birth fold"? Curious expression!
I was born with my name on the register of the Masons - thus *birth*.
A flock of sheep not necessarily all blood related is also called a *fold*.
Thus a cute, and better discripted way of saying 'extended family.' :-)
I like the sheep analogy. Thanks.
Bahahahahahahah bahahaha, bahahahaha ;)
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| User: "Cuan" |
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16 Sep 2004 07:03:58 AM |
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On 15 Sep 2004 17:05:19 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<gpcgk0d4i270e114a2gcgts0t7j5oi0l28@4ax.com>...
On 14 Sep 2004 19:24:55 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<jtK1d.11355$0h7.888330@news20.bellglobal.com>...
What is the "birth fold"? Curious expression!
I was born with my name on the register of the Masons - thus *birth*.
A flock of sheep not necessarily all blood related is also called a *fold*.
Thus a cute, and better discripted way of saying 'extended family.' :-)
I like the sheep analogy. Thanks.
Bahahahahahahah bahahaha, bahahahaha ;)
Shouldn't that be "Baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaa, baaaaaaa"?
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| User: "Cuan" |
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15 Sep 2004 07:18:32 AM |
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On 14 Sep 2004 14:39:11 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<41470643$0$11233$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
So, it is clear who is God in the eyes of Freemasons.
So again you have no clue; I , Being from the birth fold can clue you
in. There are levels - and these levels never tell one the truth until
you get to the tippedy-top - then you learn the controversy and what
Blabbski attested too as their supreme god. Like all fraternities,
there are secrets at different levels ( Usually much of this is just
history of that fraternity) – she happened not to be at the top. She
speculated. She was an outsider. She did not know the truth.
You obviously haven't been reading many of the earlier posts on this
issue. In essence, you're re-inventing the wheel. Now go back to
your fold, litte red riding hood.
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14 Sep 2004 10:41:27 AM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:K4C1d.13963$KU5.13723@edtnps89...
Cuan a écrit:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:55:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Interesting. How do you know?
Because I looked it up, dummy. This is how we learn things, Jean. We
investigate them. I'm sure there's a good soul out there who can show
you how it's done.
Bah, so you are telling me that Masonic also believe that God created
the world and is beyond his creation. This is the belief of any believer
n the world. I ask you, how do you know Masonic also believe that. You
are supposed to show how you know, where you took that dubious
information, a masonic link that speaks of the creation of the world by
God. You are the one who licks the ***** of Barbarossa who says they are
satanic. Have they suddenly become fans of God as well to suit your
agenda? Or maybe they are not. Then are you saying that Barbarossa is an
idiot now?
Anyway, let's see where you took that from so we know.
I am waiting... tap tap tap...
Freemasons do not believe that God, our Father in the Heavens, created all
there is. It is their believe that a "grand architect of the universe" is
the creator
of everything. They insist that all religions just pray to the same god.
They
insist that God, Allah, Vishnu and others are just names for the same thing.
This
cannot be right. If we read the Holy Bible we can read in the Book Job that
God has sons, one of them is Satan.
I see that you mistake angels for sons.
In the new testamony Jesus is also
refered
to as Son of God. On the other hand, if you read the Quoran you will find
that
Allah has no sons at all.
Only daughters?
So, the freemasons do not praise to the God of the
Holy Bible, father of Satan and Jesus.
Well first satan is not a son of God, but a fallen angel.
Second, since Bush does praise the God of the bible, it stems to reason
he is not a freemason.
Thank you very much.
J.
[snip irrelevant stupidities stupid freemasons believe in. Who cares.]
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14 Sep 2004 07:22:58 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:HiE1d.26124$XP3.13083@edtnps84...
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:K4C1d.13963$KU5.13723@edtnps89...
Cuan a écrit:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:55:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Interesting. How do you know?
Because I looked it up, dummy. This is how we learn things, Jean. We
investigate them. I'm sure there's a good soul out there who can show
you how it's done.
Bah, so you are telling me that Masonic also believe that God created
the world and is beyond his creation. This is the belief of any believer
n the world. I ask you, how do you know Masonic also believe that. You
are supposed to show how you know, where you took that dubious
information, a masonic link that speaks of the creation of the world by
God. You are the one who licks the ***** of Barbarossa who says they are
satanic. Have they suddenly become fans of God as well to suit your
agenda? Or maybe they are not. Then are you saying that Barbarossa is an
idiot now?
Anyway, let's see where you took that from so we know.
I am waiting... tap tap tap...
Freemasons do not believe that God, our Father in the Heavens, created
all
there is. It is their believe that a "grand architect of the universe"
is
the creator
of everything. They insist that all religions just pray to the same god.
They
insist that God, Allah, Vishnu and others are just names for the same
thing.
This
cannot be right. If we read the Holy Bible we can read in the Book Job
that
God has sons, one of them is Satan.
I see that you mistake angels for sons.
I see you don't have a Bible, please buy a proper and read the book of Job.
In the book of Job, first chapter, There you can read that God assembled
together with His sons and one of them is Satan. They are sons and they are
also angels. Satan is the angel of darkness, but he is also a son of God who
rebelled against his Father.
In the new testamony Jesus is also
refered
to as Son of God. On the other hand, if you read the Quoran you will
find
that
Allah has no sons at all.
Only daughters?
Which is pretty different from sons.
So, the freemasons do not praise to the God of the
Holy Bible, father of Satan and Jesus.
Well first satan is not a son of God, but a fallen angel.
He is both, he is son of God and a fallen angel who rebelled against
his Father, our Father in the Heavens.
Second, since Bush does praise the God of the bible, it stems to reason
he is not a freemason.
Since Bush swore oaths to the order of the satanic Skull and Bones he is
only paying lipservice to the christian church in the USA. His record, by
countless violations of the Holy Ten Commandments show also that he
is not a Christian, he is a fascist like Hitler. And he is a servant of the
highest rankings in the international Freemasonry.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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15 Sep 2004 08:48:32 AM |
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Only in your schizoid paranoid mind barbarossa.
J.
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:HiE1d.26124$XP3.13083@edtnps84...
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:K4C1d.13963$KU5.13723@edtnps89...
Cuan a écrit:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:55:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Interesting. How do you know?
Because I looked it up, dummy. This is how we learn things, Jean. We
investigate them. I'm sure there's a good soul out there who can show
you how it's done.
Bah, so you are telling me that Masonic also believe that God created
the world and is beyond his creation. This is the belief of any believer
n the world. I ask you, how do you know Masonic also believe that. You
are supposed to show how you know, where you took that dubious
information, a masonic link that speaks of the creation of the world by
God. You are the one who licks the ***** of Barbarossa who says they are
satanic. Have they suddenly become fans of God as well to suit your
agenda? Or maybe they are not. Then are you saying that Barbarossa is an
idiot now?
Anyway, let's see where you took that from so we know.
I am waiting... tap tap tap...
Freemasons do not believe that God, our Father in the Heavens, created
all
there is. It is their believe that a "grand architect of the universe"
is
the creator
of everything. They insist that all religions just pray to the same god.
They
insist that God, Allah, Vishnu and others are just names for the same
thing.
This
cannot be right. If we read the Holy Bible we can read in the Book Job
that
God has sons, one of them is Satan.
I see that you mistake angels for sons.
I see you don't have a Bible, please buy a proper and read the book of Job.
In the book of Job, first chapter, There you can read that God assembled
together with His sons and one of them is Satan. They are sons and they are
also angels. Satan is the angel of darkness, but he is also a son of God who
rebelled against his Father.
In the new testamony Jesus is also
refered
to as Son of God. On the other hand, if you read the Quoran you will
find
that
Allah has no sons at all.
Only daughters?
Which is pretty different from sons.
So, the freemasons do not praise to the God of the
Holy Bible, father of Satan and Jesus.
Well first satan is not a son of God, but a fallen angel.
He is both, he is son of God and a fallen angel who rebelled against
his Father, our Father in the Heavens.
Second, since Bush does praise the God of the bible, it stems to reason
he is not a freemason.
Since Bush swore oaths to the order of the satanic Skull and Bones he is
only paying lipservice to the christian church in the USA. His record, by
countless violations of the Holy Ten Commandments show also that he
is not a Christian, he is a fascist like Hitler. And he is a servant of the
highest rankings in the international Freemasonry.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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15 Sep 2004 09:28:25 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Only in your schizoid paranoid mind barbarossa.
Not precisely. More and more people come aware of this knowledge
JG!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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