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What does it take to be a scientist in the 21st century?
First you must learn to obey the following set of rules:
1) I renounce all faith in God. Anyone who believes in
God is an idiot. The only smart people in the world
are atheists. The only true scientists are atheists.
2) Jesus Christ is a fairy tale concocted by religious
fanatics to brainwash and control the masses. There
isn't an ounce of truth in the entire bible. Anyone
who believes in such fairy tales is mentally insane.
3) Even though we know that the Catholics are nutcases,
by sheer coincidence, we also dictate that civiliza-
tions date back no further than only seven thousand
years or so. There never was a global flood like in
the "Genesis" fairy tale, and the world's sealevels
have always been about where they are today--for at
least the last several million years or so. Asinine
rumors of "sunken cities" are pure hogwash. There's
not a shred of evidence to support such foolishness,
and certified charlatans like "Edgar Cayce" or "Nos-
tradamus" were nothing but liars and frauds. Anyone
who believes that human civilizations date back for
hundreds of thousands or even millions of years are
delusional freaks who deserve to be lobotomized. It
is mandatory that scientists reject all such lunacy,
or you will be excommunicated from our fine coterie
of scientific atheists. Hold the party line or else!
4) Since "God" is nothing but a fairy tale for foolish
nitwits, the universe and everything in it happened
only by random chance. Humans are only animals like
any other animal, they just happen to have superior
intelligence over most other creatures--at least we
atheists do. Of course, religious kooks haven't any
real intelligence to speak of. They're all retarded.
5) I renounce any and all forms of independent thought.
The only thoughts worthy of consideration are those
which the scientific community of atheists agree on.
Any scientific research which contradicts the party
line will be summarily ignored and debunked. If you
fail to renounce any such unauthorized work, you're
going to be blackballed, and the only job you'll be
able to hold will be washing dishes at a truck stop.
6) More than a third of a century ago, while Nixon was
President, NASA sent astronauts around ONE THOUSAND
times further into space than any manned spacecraft
has ever been able to go before or since. Six times
they made it all the way to the Moon and back--with
no casualties, and not a sign of radiation sickness
in any of the crew members. Don't you even dare say
otherwise, since if you do, you'll be called a kook.
7) The great pyramids at the al-Gizeh plateau were not
built by intelligent people, but by ignorant slaves
under the heavy-handed whips of the Pharoah's goons.
Only crude primitive construction methods were used,
and they were built more recently than cir. 3000 BC.
Today we could build even better pyramids if we wan-
ted to, but we don't want to and that's why haven't.
Anyone who believes what kooks like Edgar Cayce and
Ed Leedskalnin said about the pyramids, then you're
also a kook...you'll never find work as a scientist.
8) There's no such thing as "ETs" or alien "UFOs". Any-
one who claims to have seen a UFO mistook Venus for
a flying saucer. If you believe in ETs visiting our
planet even once then you must be absoultely insane.
Only kooks believe such fairy tales. Are you a kook?
9) Only since the days of Copernicus has science known
about the sidereal orbits of planets. Those who say
that ancient astronomers could see the planets move
against the starry background of Earth's caelestial
firmament is a liar and a fraud. Everyone knows the
planets were thought of only as "wanderers" because
ancient astronomers couldn't really see the planets
move over days, weeks, months and years against the
night sky. Obviously these ancient astronomers such
as the Egyptians, Babylonians, Mayans, et al, these
reptilian-brained oafs couldn't think, count or rea-
son. Just because ancient astronomers commonly knew
the sidereal order of the planets from the Moon out
to Pluto, this is nothing more than odd coincidence.
They were superstitious morons who believed in gods
and life after death, and other ridiculous nonsense.
Anyone who says the ancients could think, count and
track the motion of the planets belongs on deathrow.
10) Finally, if you want to work in a scientific profes-
sion, then you'd better learn how to "play the game"
by just playing along. It's okay if you want to sup-
port the party line. Do that and you'll fit in. But
don't make waves or rock the boat. Atheists are not
capable of defending our position. That's why we re-
ly solely on "peer review" for moral support. Other-
wise we'd be required to actually defend our ideals
with facts instead of our routine baseless rhetoric;
and if it came to that--naturally--we'd be defeated.
So be forewarned, you would-be scientist. We're not
able to scientifically defend our positions. That's
why we've defined science as only what we say it is.
There's no science beyond the approval of our venal
whims. Money decides what is science and what isn't.
Independent thought is prohibited. It's that simple.
*Min's Step-by-Step Lesson: How To Observe Sidereal &
Synodic Planetary Orbits With Our Unaided Human Eyes:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I2037855.1969907407@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*All Apollo Moon Missions Were Unmanned:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=VTKA4X1O37500.9704861111@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7RL5KJIX37499.1691435185@Gilgamesh-frog.org
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
_______________________________________________________
GOOGLE LINKS TO FINE ON-LINE BOOKS BY DANIEL JOSEPH MIN
_______________________________________________________
*Min's Interlinear Apocalypse & Concise Commentary (Min's fifth book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=U69H2BPA38121.2360300926@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Planetary Awareness Technique (Min's fourth book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OYJC9TOU37947.1559259259@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Light & Sound (Min's third book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HIDW4JQJ37765.6015509259@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Compleat Tarot Manual (Min's second book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DYR1OZ3237765.6052777778@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Historical Calendar Of Jesus (Min's first book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=26e3a5d035bdf01fc61d36884deac0e4@cryptorebels.net
*Min's Heresy of Copernicus FAQ:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=PM8VBQE237765.9709143518@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Astro-Charts & Tarot Pages:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BQ5ORF1937773.2172569444@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Beginner's Reference & FAQs:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=24WXVJ4W37773.6967939815@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Nostradamus Interlinear Translations:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HFLYJA8S37766.7990856481@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Horoscopes & Souljourns of World-Famous Persons:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OJUCPCWU37947.1949421296@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Horoscopes & Souljourns of Unknowns & Anonymous:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1IUBR0YD37947.1949305556@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XWB7QJO37766.971099537@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5YTK57VH37948.6355092593@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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19 May 2004 08:37:48 PM |
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"xargon" wrote:
How do you know so much
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One of Nostradamus' favorite paraphrases of the Vulgate:
"cobien que, Abscondisti haec a sapientibus, et pruden-
tibus, id est, potentibus et regibus, et enucleastiea
exiguis et tenuibus" --excerpt from 'Preface to Cesar'
"as much which, Absconded these from the sapient, and
the prudent, that is, the potentates and the kings,
and have made clear to the exiguous and the tenuous"
--from Nostradamus - Min's Interlinear Translation
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
*Min's Nostradamus - Interlinear Translation:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HFLYJA8S37766.7990856481@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Step-by-Step Lesson: How To Observe Sidereal &
Synodic Planetary Orbits With Our Unaided Human Eyes:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I2037855.1969907407@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*All Apollo Moon Missions Were Unmanned:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=VTKA4X1O37500.9704861111@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7RL5KJIX37499.1691435185@Gilgamesh-frog.org
_______________________________________________________
GOOGLE LINKS TO FINE ON-LINE BOOKS BY DANIEL JOSEPH MIN
_______________________________________________________
*Min's Interlinear Apocalypse & Concise Commentary (Min's fifth book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=U69H2BPA38121.2360300926@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Planetary Awareness Technique (Min's fourth book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OYJC9TOU37947.1559259259@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Light & Sound (Min's third book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HIDW4JQJ37765.6015509259@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Compleat Tarot Manual (Min's second book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DYR1OZ3237765.6052777778@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Historical Calendar Of Jesus (Min's first book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=26e3a5d035bdf01fc61d36884deac0e4@cryptorebels.net
*Min's Heresy of Copernicus FAQ:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=PM8VBQE237765.9709143518@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Astro-Charts & Tarot Pages:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BQ5ORF1937773.2172569444@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Beginner's Reference & FAQs:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=24WXVJ4W37773.6967939815@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Horoscopes & Souljourns of World-Famous Persons:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OJUCPCWU37947.1949421296@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Horoscopes & Souljourns of Unknowns & Anonymous:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1IUBR0YD37947.1949305556@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XWB7QJO37766.971099537@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5YTK57VH37948.6355092593@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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15 May 2004 10:25:21 AM |
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In article <7VQDXAU638122.6697916667@Gilgamesh-Frog.org>
Star Smart <star.smart@astro.university.edu> wrote:
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What does it take to be a scientist in the 21st century?
First you must learn to obey the following set of rules:
The Collected Buffoonery of Daniel J. Min - Usenet's most failed prophet.
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Who is Danny Min?
What does he post?
Examples of failed prophecies
What you should do
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Who is Daniel J. Min?
Daniel J. Min is a denizen of Usenet newsgroups. He posts using various variations on his name, including using asterisks or underlines in place of letters. Often he will post as "Nomen Nescio" or Anonymous, and he used to post as GOD>.
The reason for this is to get around peoples "kill files" or "bozo filters"
However, he consistently posts through anonymous "remailers" in order to disguise his true identity
He posts to various newsgroups, including alt.astrology, alt.astronomy, and alt.prophecies.nostradamus. He posts in any inappropriate newsgroup he deems neccessary.
Additionally Danny has been known to directly email people, once again, using his anonymous remailer service.
What does he post?
Danny posts various garbage claims about astrological influences, and birthdata, which he generally makes up as he goes along. Outstanding amongst his posts include claims to know exactly the birthdata of Jesus Christ, Johannes Kepler, Ptolemy, and various other historical characters.
He posts silly prophecies and claims, and even at times posts his own "kill file list" which has become so large that it's unlikely he even *sees* anyone else s posts anymore.
Some Classic examples of Danny's failed prophecies
(Danny's "prophetic" words are italicized)
Danny predicts the "Great Khan of Terror":
On 15 Nov 1999 22:34:03 -0600, GOD wrote in these newsgroups:
The king of terror will come some time around the month of May in 2000.
At this time, the inner planets will all be lined up on one side of the sun with the exception of the Earth which will be directly at the opposite side.
The increased gravitational effects of the sun combined with the added pull from the other planets will have a devastating effect on the earth.
At this time, all major fault lines will rupture. California will experience the big one at this time.
Volcanic activity will increase and it is very likely that the Long Valley Caulderra will explode cataclysmicly. These types of events will be occurring at roughly the same time throughout the entire planet.
To top it off, the suns corona will be nudged away from the earth...towards the grouped inner planets, effectively creating a massive coronal hole (I.E." the "three days of darkness").
When the pull of the alignment comes to pass, the corona will snap back to the earth facing side thereby releasing a CME of massive proportions....aimed directly at planet Earth.
Believe me, there will be terror at this time.
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Danny moves "The Great Kahn of Terror" by yet another 7 months:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:59:25 -0500, No User wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, (BobO fficer) wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:37:04 -0500, to alt.astrology et al I wrote
Enjoy 1999 seventh month. It is Ethanim 2000.
you said it was last September or October,
Yes, the seventh month 1999 in the revised Roman calendar was from sunset September 10th to sunset October 10th but the first month 1999 was in the spring of 1762 BC, sunset Saturday March 24th to sunset April 22nd proleptic Julian. The seventh month Ethanim was therefore 2000, not of 1999 but FROM the first month in the YEAR 1999 of the passover. Hence, the YEAR 1999 seventh month AND seven months. See?
I let you take every day of the year 1999
The LORD granted the centuries and you did not repent. He giveth and He taketh away. You Robert, speak blasphemy of the LORD.
and you were wrong.
I am corrected by scripture--and Nostradamus was likewise.
there was no terror from the skies, no killer asteroid.
And yet again must that universal ruler of infernal hades be raised up as it is written. Beware the star in fortune opposing, in the rule of night from heaven it advances to WINNOW, "Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire" [Mat 3:12]
Daniel
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Daniel Expects half the world's population destroyed in October 2000
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:00:02 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, "Douglas Deaton" wrote:
I am new here and somewhat ignorant.
Doug
That makes two of us, or 6 billion of us if I'm not entirely mistaken.
At October much will be made clear
by ways and means of the elements.
I expect half the population gone,
global equalisation of temperature
and pressure, the time, a new race,
His perpetual age the moment where,
or at the place when, smoke clears.
Enjoy the fireworks!
Daniel Joseph Min- >
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Daniel predicts the US presidential election for 2000
On 12 Nov 2000 23:44:00 -0000, Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
The 42nd President of the United States is the very
last of all the American Presidents to hold office.
He will announce our *National Emergency* shortly,
thus will continue in the office of the President,
having already been inaugurated in due diligence
when he was elected President. Gore is still VP.
&There is no reason to repeal the 22nd amendment,
given that Mr. President William Jefferson Clinton
has been elected twice only, and no more, thus the
amendment does not apply. Neither does a term limit
apply in his case, given that this is indeed a true
state of emergency with bloody violence seen to be
escalating in the State of Florida and elsewhere,
spreading like wildfire as it is in the mid east.
Get to higher ground if you can (look at England!)
Daniel Joseph Min
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So what should you do about him?
Well, first of all, you can be pretty sure based on his success rate that anything he has to say is wrong.
Someone once said, rather well, that "there is too much Min, and not enough Nostradamus" in what he posts.
Complaining won't do much, because he's they type of individual that doesn't feel the need to explain himself.
Asking him to stop only feeds him.
complaining to his anonymous remailer service results in nothing.
About the best thing to be said, is just be aware of what a buffoon he is.
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| User: "aurora" |
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16 May 2004 07:04:49 AM |
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Scientists are slaves to logic. Having a scientific mentality kind of
precludes that. :)
That being said, scientists and logicians alike tend to avoid believing in
things in absence of sufficient evidence. Matters of faith and spirituality
aren't exactly their strong points. It's kind of like asking a pisces to do
your taxes or something. LOL.
"Star Smart" <star.smart@astro.university.edu> wrote in message
news:7VQDXAU638122.6697916667@Gilgamesh-Frog.org...
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What does it take to be a scientist in the 21st century?
First you must learn to obey the following set of rules:
1) I renounce all faith in God. Anyone who believes in
God is an idiot. The only smart people in the world
are atheists. The only true scientists are atheists.
2) Jesus Christ is a fairy tale concocted by religious
fanatics to brainwash and control the masses. There
isn't an ounce of truth in the entire bible. Anyone
who believes in such fairy tales is mentally insane.
3) Even though we know that the Catholics are nutcases,
by sheer coincidence, we also dictate that civiliza-
tions date back no further than only seven thousand
years or so. There never was a global flood like in
the "Genesis" fairy tale, and the world's sealevels
have always been about where they are today--for at
least the last several million years or so. Asinine
rumors of "sunken cities" are pure hogwash. There's
not a shred of evidence to support such foolishness,
and certified charlatans like "Edgar Cayce" or "Nos-
tradamus" were nothing but liars and frauds. Anyone
who believes that human civilizations date back for
hundreds of thousands or even millions of years are
delusional freaks who deserve to be lobotomized. It
is mandatory that scientists reject all such lunacy,
or you will be excommunicated from our fine coterie
of scientific atheists. Hold the party line or else!
4) Since "God" is nothing but a fairy tale for foolish
nitwits, the universe and everything in it happened
only by random chance. Humans are only animals like
any other animal, they just happen to have superior
intelligence over most other creatures--at least we
atheists do. Of course, religious kooks haven't any
real intelligence to speak of. They're all retarded.
5) I renounce any and all forms of independent thought.
The only thoughts worthy of consideration are those
which the scientific community of atheists agree on.
Any scientific research which contradicts the party
line will be summarily ignored and debunked. If you
fail to renounce any such unauthorized work, you're
going to be blackballed, and the only job you'll be
able to hold will be washing dishes at a truck stop.
6) More than a third of a century ago, while Nixon was
President, NASA sent astronauts around ONE THOUSAND
times further into space than any manned spacecraft
has ever been able to go before or since. Six times
they made it all the way to the Moon and back--with
no casualties, and not a sign of radiation sickness
in any of the crew members. Don't you even dare say
otherwise, since if you do, you'll be called a kook.
7) The great pyramids at the al-Gizeh plateau were not
built by intelligent people, but by ignorant slaves
under the heavy-handed whips of the Pharoah's goons.
Only crude primitive construction methods were used,
and they were built more recently than cir. 3000 BC.
Today we could build even better pyramids if we wan-
ted to, but we don't want to and that's why haven't.
Anyone who believes what kooks like Edgar Cayce and
Ed Leedskalnin said about the pyramids, then you're
also a kook...you'll never find work as a scientist.
8) There's no such thing as "ETs" or alien "UFOs". Any-
one who claims to have seen a UFO mistook Venus for
a flying saucer. If you believe in ETs visiting our
planet even once then you must be absoultely insane.
Only kooks believe such fairy tales. Are you a kook?
9) Only since the days of Copernicus has science known
about the sidereal orbits of planets. Those who say
that ancient astronomers could see the planets move
against the starry background of Earth's caelestial
firmament is a liar and a fraud. Everyone knows the
planets were thought of only as "wanderers" because
ancient astronomers couldn't really see the planets
move over days, weeks, months and years against the
night sky. Obviously these ancient astronomers such
as the Egyptians, Babylonians, Mayans, et al, these
reptilian-brained oafs couldn't think, count or rea-
son. Just because ancient astronomers commonly knew
the sidereal order of the planets from the Moon out
to Pluto, this is nothing more than odd coincidence.
They were superstitious morons who believed in gods
and life after death, and other ridiculous nonsense.
Anyone who says the ancients could think, count and
track the motion of the planets belongs on deathrow.
10) Finally, if you want to work in a scientific profes-
sion, then you'd better learn how to "play the game"
by just playing along. It's okay if you want to sup-
port the party line. Do that and you'll fit in. But
don't make waves or rock the boat. Atheists are not
capable of defending our position. That's why we re-
ly solely on "peer review" for moral support. Other-
wise we'd be required to actually defend our ideals
with facts instead of our routine baseless rhetoric;
and if it came to that--naturally--we'd be defeated.
So be forewarned, you would-be scientist. We're not
able to scientifically defend our positions. That's
why we've defined science as only what we say it is.
There's no science beyond the approval of our venal
whims. Money decides what is science and what isn't.
Independent thought is prohibited. It's that simple.
*Min's Step-by-Step Lesson: How To Observe Sidereal &
Synodic Planetary Orbits With Our Unaided Human Eyes:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I2037855.1969907407@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*All Apollo Moon Missions Were Unmanned:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=VTKA4X1O37500.9704861111@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7RL5KJIX37499.1691435185@Gilgamesh-frog.org
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
_______________________________________________________
GOOGLE LINKS TO FINE ON-LINE BOOKS BY DANIEL JOSEPH MIN
_______________________________________________________
*Min's Interlinear Apocalypse & Concise Commentary (Min's fifth book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=U69H2BPA38121.2360300926@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Planetary Awareness Technique (Min's fourth book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OYJC9TOU37947.1559259259@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Light & Sound (Min's third book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HIDW4JQJ37765.6015509259@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Compleat Tarot Manual (Min's second book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DYR1OZ3237765.6052777778@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Historical Calendar Of Jesus (Min's first book):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=26e3a5d035bdf01fc61d36884deac0e4@cryptorebels.net
*Min's Heresy of Copernicus FAQ:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=PM8VBQE237765.9709143518@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Astro-Charts & Tarot Pages:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BQ5ORF1937773.2172569444@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Beginner's Reference & FAQs:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=24WXVJ4W37773.6967939815@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Nostradamus Interlinear Translations:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HFLYJA8S37766.7990856481@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Horoscopes & Souljourns of World-Famous Persons:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OJUCPCWU37947.1949421296@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Horoscopes & Souljourns of Unknowns & Anonymous:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1IUBR0YD37947.1949305556@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XWB7QJO37766.971099537@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5YTK57VH37948.6355092593@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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15 May 2004 03:53:49 PM |
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Star Smart <star.smart@astro.university.edu> wrote in message
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What does it take to be a FUCKHEAD in the 21st century? <- Dekookified!
It's not difficult, but Mean does it very good.
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
15 May 2004 06:13:19 PM |
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Star Smart a écrit:
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What does it take to be a scientist in the 21st century?
First you must learn to obey the following set of rules:
1) I renounce all faith in God. Anyone who believes in
God is an idiot. The only smart people in the world
are atheists. The only true scientists are atheists.
*****. All science is rationalizable even though the only scientific proof
that go exists can only be from Nostradamus texts. But once it is estabvlished,
everything is rationalizable.
J.
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| User: "John Griffin" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
16 May 2004 02:15:29 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that go exists can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark of the
year in its category, but I can't find the polling place.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
16 May 2004 11:44:54 PM |
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John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that do exist can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark of the
year in its category, but I can't find the polling place.
That is not funny, that is facts. The history of the world since the publication
of the Prophecies of Nostradamus in the quatrains can be traced to almost
exactly all major events.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org for details of the accuracy of prophecies
concerning the past. Those about he future are less certain, they are not meant
to be until they occur. But those that are in our collective past show that God
really knew how to inspire the Seer to focus on major occurrences.
You can laugh all you want, one day most of humanity will see that.
After all, all they have to do is look.
Well, it would help if I can get to write another (reviewed) edition of our
books, in English this time (the first international language). Hopefully it
will happen soon but this would mean that I wouldn't be around anymore, or very
little.
Would you miss me? ;-)
J.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
17 May 2004 12:35:15 AM |
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that do exist can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark of the year in
its category, but I can't find the polling place.
That is not funny, that is facts. The history of the world since the
publication of the Prophecies of Nostradamus in the quatrains can be
traced to almost exactly all major events.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org for details of the accuracy of
prophecies concerning the past. Those about he future are less certain,
they are not meant to be until they occur. But those that are in our
collective past show that God really knew how to inspire the Seer to
focus on major occurrences.
You can laugh all you want, one day most of humanity will see that.
After all, all they have to do is look.
Well, it would help if I can get to write another (reviewed) edition of
our books, in English this time (the first international language).
Hopefully it will happen soon but this would mean that I wouldn't be
around anymore, or very little.
Would you miss me? ;-)
J.
Maybe, if you are really seeking and really do not know about the Seer, I should
explain that it is scientific in that:
1. Only God knows the relative future and
2. He revealed it to only one post medieval prophet who could pass it on to
future generations with absolute unique specificity about the events that were
to come (within some restraints about clarity beforehand, in order that the
prophecies reaches them relatively unadulterated).
J.
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| User: "John Griffin" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
17 May 2004 05:24:44 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that do exist can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark of
the year in its category, but I can't find the polling
place.
That is not funny, that is facts. The history of the world
since the publication of the Prophecies of Nostradamus in
the quatrains can be traced to almost exactly all major
events.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org for details of the
accuracy of prophecies concerning the past. Those about he
future are less certain, they are not meant to be until
they occur. But those that are in our collective past show
that God really knew how to inspire the Seer to focus on
major occurrences.
You can laugh all you want, one day most of humanity will
see that.
After all, all they have to do is look.
Well, it would help if I can get to write another
(reviewed) edition of our books, in English this time (the
first international language). Hopefully it will happen
soon but this would mean that I wouldn't be around
anymore, or very little.
Would you miss me? ;-)
J.
Maybe, if you are really seeking and really do not know
about the Seer, I should explain that it is scientific in
that:
1. Only God knows the relative future and
2. He revealed it to only one post medieval prophet who
could pass it on to future generations with absolute unique
specificity about the events that were to come (within some
restraints about clarity beforehand, in order that the
prophecies reaches them relatively unadulterated).
J.
God is one of man's most important inventions.
Nostradamus was just another clown.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
17 May 2004 07:55:56 AM |
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Nope.
J.
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that do exist can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark of
the year in its category, but I can't find the polling
place.
That is not funny, that is facts. The history of the world
since the publication of the Prophecies of Nostradamus in
the quatrains can be traced to almost exactly all major
events.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org for details of the
accuracy of prophecies concerning the past. Those about he
future are less certain, they are not meant to be until
they occur. But those that are in our collective past show
that God really knew how to inspire the Seer to focus on
major occurrences.
You can laugh all you want, one day most of humanity will
see that.
After all, all they have to do is look.
Well, it would help if I can get to write another
(reviewed) edition of our books, in English this time (the
first international language). Hopefully it will happen
soon but this would mean that I wouldn't be around
anymore, or very little.
Would you miss me? ;-)
J.
Maybe, if you are really seeking and really do not know
about the Seer, I should explain that it is scientific in
that:
1. Only God knows the relative future and
2. He revealed it to only one post medieval prophet who
could pass it on to future generations with absolute unique
specificity about the events that were to come (within some
restraints about clarity beforehand, in order that the
prophecies reaches them relatively unadulterated).
J.
God is one of man's most important inventions.
Nostradamus was just another clown.
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| User: "John Griffin" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
17 May 2004 05:31:51 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that do exist can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark of
the year in its category, but I can't find the polling
place.
That is not funny, that is facts. The history of the world
since the publication of the Prophecies of Nostradamus in
the quatrains can be traced to almost exactly all major
events.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org for details of the
accuracy of prophecies concerning the past. Those about he
future are less certain, they are not meant to be until
they occur. But those that are in our collective past show
that God really knew how to inspire the Seer to focus on
major occurrences.
You can laugh all you want, one day most of humanity will
see that.
After all, all they have to do is look.
Well, it would help if I can get to write another
(reviewed) edition of our books, in English this time (the
first international language). Hopefully it will happen
soon but this would mean that I wouldn't be around
anymore, or very little.
Would you miss me? ;-)
J.
Maybe, if you are really seeking and really do not know
about the Seer, I should explain that it is scientific in
that:
1. Only God knows the relative future and
2. He revealed it to only one post medieval prophet who
could pass it on to future generations with absolute unique
specificity about the events that were to come (within some
restraints about clarity beforehand, in order that the
prophecies reaches them relatively unadulterated).
J.
God is one of man's most important inventions.
Nostradamus was just another clown.
Nope.
J.
An exchange of bald assertions. Mine were way better than
yours, because they don't rely on any silly superstitions and
they don't respect any crazy ideas or wild stories.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
17 May 2004 07:25:00 PM |
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Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been established by rigorous
demonstration of course, even though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said
is accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact duration of communism...
And so many other precised occurences, it is unparralleled.
But these proofs will come to be known only in the future, for sure, as he said
that i would happen. WEhen, depends if he also spoke about it, perhaps around
500 years after the publication of the prophecies (which were first published in
1555), if the one quatrain possibly about it, really is about this.
But anyway, you don't really care, do you? You are an atheist who will never
accept God even if He was showed to you, right?
J.
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that do exist can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark of
the year in its category, but I can't find the polling
place.
That is not funny, that is facts. The history of the world
since the publication of the Prophecies of Nostradamus in
the quatrains can be traced to almost exactly all major
events.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org for details of the
accuracy of prophecies concerning the past. Those about he
future are less certain, they are not meant to be until
they occur. But those that are in our collective past show
that God really knew how to inspire the Seer to focus on
major occurrences.
You can laugh all you want, one day most of humanity will
see that.
After all, all they have to do is look.
Well, it would help if I can get to write another
(reviewed) edition of our books, in English this time (the
first international language). Hopefully it will happen
soon but this would mean that I wouldn't be around
anymore, or very little.
Would you miss me? ;-)
J.
Maybe, if you are really seeking and really do not know
about the Seer, I should explain that it is scientific in
that:
1. Only God knows the relative future and
2. He revealed it to only one post medieval prophet who
could pass it on to future generations with absolute unique
specificity about the events that were to come (within some
restraints about clarity beforehand, in order that the
prophecies reaches them relatively unadulterated).
J.
God is one of man's most important inventions.
Nostradamus was just another clown.
Nope.
J.
An exchange of bald assertions. Mine were way better than
yours, because they don't rely on any silly superstitions and
they don't respect any crazy ideas or wild stories.
.
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| User: "John Griffin" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
17 May 2004 08:26:34 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
...the
only scientific proof that do exist can only be from
Nostradamus texts.
I would certainly vote for that as the funniest remark
of the year in its category, but I can't find the
polling place.
That is not funny, that is facts. The history of the
world since the publication of the Prophecies of
Nostradamus in the quatrains can be traced to almost
exactly all major events.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org for details of the
accuracy of prophecies concerning the past. Those about
he future are less certain, they are not meant to be
until they occur. But those that are in our collective
past show that God really knew how to inspire the Seer
to focus on major occurrences.
You can laugh all you want, one day most of humanity
will see that.
After all, all they have to do is look.
Well, it would help if I can get to write another
(reviewed) edition of our books, in English this time
(the first international language). Hopefully it will
happen soon but this would mean that I wouldn't be
around anymore, or very little.
Would you miss me? ;-)
J.
Maybe, if you are really seeking and really do not know
about the Seer, I should explain that it is scientific
in that:
1. Only God knows the relative future and
2. He revealed it to only one post medieval prophet who
could pass it on to future generations with absolute
unique specificity about the events that were to come
(within some restraints about clarity beforehand, in
order that the prophecies reaches them relatively
unadulterated).
J.
God is one of man's most important inventions.
Nostradamus was just another clown.
Nope.
J.
An exchange of bald assertions. Mine were way better than
yours, because they don't rely on any silly superstitions
and they don't respect any crazy ideas or wild stories.
I hope you don't mind me moving your comments down here to the
only logical place.
Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been
established by rigorous demonstration of course, even
though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said is
accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact duration
of communism... And so many other precised occurences, it
is unparralleled.
Nostradamus's accuracy is an illusion. Believers merely define
actual events as fulfillments of his frivolous guesses.
But these proofs will come to be known only in the future,
for sure, as he said that i would happen. WEhen, depends if
he also spoke about it, perhaps around 500 years after the
publication of the prophecies (which were first published
in 1555), if the one quatrain possibly about it, really is
about this.
But anyway, you don't really care, do you? You are an
atheist who will never accept God even if He was showed to
you, right?
Wrong. Completely wrong. Saying that I don't believe there are
any gods because they haven't been shown to me is a far cry from
that. For now, gods are just a factitious copout, a way of
"explaining" to believers things that haven't been rationally
explained, a measure of hope to selfish people who think they
should get more than a lifetime on Earth, and a balm to people
who are fucked up because of someone's death.
As for Nostradamus and other con artists of that type, we live
in a non-prophet universe.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
19 May 2004 12:49:17 PM |
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John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
[snip]
I hope you don't mind me moving your comments down here to the
only logical place.
Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been
established by rigorous demonstration of course, even
though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said is
accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact duration
of communism... And so many other precised occurences, it
is unparralleled.
Nostradamus's accuracy is an illusion. Believers merely define
actual events as fulfillments of his frivolous guesses.
Nope. His quatrains are formulated as to point to a single unique event.
But these proofs will come to be known only in the future,
for sure, as he said that i would happen. WEhen, depends if
he also spoke about it, perhaps around 500 years after the
publication of the prophecies (which were first published
in 1555), if the one quatrain possibly about it, really is
about this.
But anyway, you don't really care, do you? You are an
atheist who will never accept God even if He was showed to
you, right?
Wrong. Completely wrong. Saying that I don't believe there are
any gods because they haven't been shown to me is a far cry from
that. For now, gods are just a factitious copout, a way of
"explaining" to believers things that haven't been rationally
explained, a measure of hope to selfish people who think they
should get more than a lifetime on Earth, and a balm to people
who are fucked up because of someone's death.
Bah, despite power trips that led to mistakes, religion, especially
christianism, has always been the source of civilization, of culture in history,
until recently, and the ones to bring order into anarchy or barbarism.
Now of course in the past centuries until the renaissance, before there were
doctors like Nostradamus, or Pasteur, when 95% of the people lived barely passed
their twenties, there was less respect for human life by historical standards,
but religion, despite some superstitions, was always there to represent the
moral aspect of life and prevent its decay.
As for Nostradamus and other con artists of that type, we live
in a non-prophet universe.
Bah, you have no clue. You are an atheist who wouldn't consider the truth after
all even if it was put under your nose.
J.
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| User: "John Griffin" |
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20 May 2004 07:12:00 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
[snip]
I hope you don't mind me moving your comments down here to
the only logical place.
Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been
established by rigorous demonstration of course, even
though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said is
accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact duration
of communism... And so many other precised occurences, it
is unparralleled.
Nostradamus's accuracy is an illusion. Believers merely
define actual events as fulfillments of his frivolous
guesses.
Nope. His quatrains are formulated as to point to a single
unique event.
It might be a single event for each believer, or at least a
single event for each of several factions of believers, but as
long as the believers have differing interpretations of
Nostradamus's nursery rhymes, there's no unique event.
Even if all the believers did agree on a unique event, you'd
start fighting again as soon as the time passes without the
"prophecy" being fulfilled. In any event, any true
correspondence between Nostradamus's nonsense and any actual
event would be purely coincidental at best, but the
correspondences we hear about are illusions based on someone's
translation and interpretation.
But these proofs will come to be known only in the future,
for sure, as he said that i would happen. WEhen, depends
if he also spoke about it, perhaps around 500 years after
the publication of the prophecies (which were first
published in 1555), if the one quatrain possibly about it,
really is about this.
But anyway, you don't really care, do you? You are an
atheist who will never accept God even if He was showed to
you, right?
Wrong. Completely wrong. Saying that I don't believe
there are any gods because they haven't been shown to me
is a far cry from that. For now, gods are just a
factitious copout, a way of "explaining" to believers
things that haven't been rationally explained, a measure
of hope to selfish people who think they should get more
than a lifetime on Earth, and a balm to people who are
fucked up because of someone's death.
Bah, despite power trips that led to mistakes, religion,
especially christianism, has always been the source of
civilization, of culture in history, until recently, and
the ones to bring order into anarchy or barbarism.
That's for sure. The amazing thing is that religions were able
to anoint themselves as the official keepers of the "gods"
stories and use them beneficially like that.
Now of course in the past centuries until the renaissance,
before there were doctors like Nostradamus, or Pasteur,
when 95% of the people lived barely passed their twenties,
there was less respect for human life by historical
standards, but religion, despite some superstitions, was
always there to represent the moral aspect of life and
prevent its decay.
Religion is maybe 10% superstition and 90% mindfucking. There
are a few people who swallow the whole story, but the bulk of
members of a religion are there because of fear that those few
might be right. (This of course doesn't apply to the zombie-
like primitive cult of Islam, which enslaves its adherents'
offspring on the day of their birth and kills any of them who
try to question the lifetime brainwashing.)
As for Nostradamus and other con artists of that type, we
live in a non-prophet universe.
Bah, you have no clue. You are an atheist who wouldn't
consider the truth after all even if it was put under your
nose.
I believe all the truths I've been shown, and I'll believe the
next one. Faith is no substitute. You can't pass off myths as
truth, however enthusiastically you believe them.
The idea of someone seeing the future is actually kinda funny.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are CowardlySniveling Louts |
20 May 2004 09:52:33 AM |
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John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
[snip]
I hope you don't mind me moving your comments down here to
the only logical place.
Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been
established by rigorous demonstration of course, even
though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said is
accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact duration
of communism... And so many other precised occurences, it
is unparralleled.
Nostradamus's accuracy is an illusion. Believers merely
define actual events as fulfillments of his frivolous
guesses.
Nope. His quatrains are formulated as to point to a single
unique event.
It might be a single event for each believer, or at least a
single event for each of several factions of believers, but as
long as the believers have differing interpretations of
Nostradamus's nursery rhymes, there's no unique event.
Even if all the believers did agree on a unique event, you'd
start fighting again as soon as the time passes without the
"prophecy" being fulfilled.
You obviously don't understand.
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies concerning the future will
be, these events didn't take place yet. We can have an idea, but it is
formulated in such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in advance. But
you can know exactly once the event has happened, because all the details of the
prophecies cannot apply to more than one event.
In any event, any true
correspondence between Nostradamus's nonsense and any actual
event would be purely coincidental at best, but the
correspondences we hear about are illusions based on someone's
translation and interpretation.
Nope. Nostradamus wrote the future, the prophecies of God. And he is the only
one to prove His existence.
But if you insist on closing your eyes, go blindly bang your head where everyone
has banged his nose before, what the hell do I care for idiots like you.
I must admit, it is quite far from being established, since only Nostradamus can
show that God is not dead, and even though the world will see it as well one
day, this day hasn't arrived.
Doesn't change that, like with Nietzsche riddle, it is God Who will say, you (&
Nietzsche) is (are) dead in the end, in history. Not the other way around.
J.
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| Title: Re: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
20 May 2004 09:10:39 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
[snip]
I hope you don't mind me moving your comments down here
to the only logical place.
Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been
established by rigorous demonstration of course, even
though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said is
accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact
duration of communism... And so many other precised
occurences, it is unparralleled.
Nostradamus's accuracy is an illusion. Believers merely
define actual events as fulfillments of his frivolous
guesses.
Nope. His quatrains are formulated as to point to a single
unique event.
It might be a single event for each believer, or at least
a single event for each of several factions of believers,
but as long as the believers have differing
interpretations of Nostradamus's nursery rhymes, there's
no unique event.
Even if all the believers did agree on a unique event,
you'd start fighting again as soon as the time passes
without the "prophecy" being fulfilled.
You obviously don't understand.
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies
concerning the future will be, these events didn't take
place yet. We can have an idea, but it is formulated in
such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in
advance. But you can know exactly once the event has
happened, because all the details of the prophecies cannot
apply to more than one event.
That's just a slightly more prolix version of what I said. Of
course you don't "know" in advance. You have to wait until one
of those cutesy little jingles can be bludgeoned into some
semblance of comportment with something that actually happened.
In any event, any true
correspondence between Nostradamus's nonsense and any
actual event would be purely coincidental at best, but the
correspondences we hear about are illusions based on
someone's translation and interpretation.
Nope. Nostradamus wrote the future, the prophecies of God.
And he is the only one to prove His existence.
I would like to see the chain of thoughts that leads from his
goofy little rhymes to a proof of the existence of a god, either
whatever god you're talking about or any other.
But if you insist on closing your eyes, go blindly bang
your head where everyone has banged his nose before, what
the hell do I care for idiots like you.
People who swallow stupid nonsense like that Nostradamus *****
should reserve words like "idiot," etc. for self references.
Instead of that, you should try to justify your blind credulity.
I must admit, it is quite far from being established, since
only Nostradamus can show that God is not dead, and even
though the world will see it as well one day, this day
hasn't arrived.
It was "revealed" to you in a form that can't be communicated to
sane people?
Doesn't change that, like with Nietzsche riddle, it is God
Who will say, you (& Nietzsche) is (are) dead in the end,
in history. Not the other way around.
Once upon a time, some humans huddled around an outdoor fire,
trembling with fear because of the sounds of lions and *****
prowling around their camp, said "Let there be God," and there
was God. Of course this happened lots of times, so there are
lots of gods. Except for their placebo-like effects, gods are
basically useless. They're just unnecessary complications in
pursuing questions like "where did all this ***** come from?" or
"why is an abomination like Islam allowed to exist in an
otherwise civilized world?"
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21 May 2004 12:23:31 PM |
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John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
[snip]
I hope you don't mind me moving your comments down here
to the only logical place.
Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been
established by rigorous demonstration of course, even
though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said is
accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact
duration of communism... And so many other precised
occurences, it is unparralleled.
Nostradamus's accuracy is an illusion. Believers merely
define actual events as fulfillments of his frivolous
guesses.
Nope. His quatrains are formulated as to point to a single
unique event.
It might be a single event for each believer, or at least
a single event for each of several factions of believers,
but as long as the believers have differing
interpretations of Nostradamus's nursery rhymes, there's
no unique event.
Even if all the believers did agree on a unique event,
you'd start fighting again as soon as the time passes
without the "prophecy" being fulfilled.
You obviously don't understand.
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies
concerning the future will be, these events didn't take
place yet. We can have an idea, but it is formulated in
such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in
advance. But you can know exactly once the event has
happened, because all the details of the prophecies cannot
apply to more than one event.
That's just a slightly more prolix version of what I said. Of
course you don't "know" in advance. You have to wait until one
of those cutesy little jingles can be bludgeoned into some
semblance of comportment with something that actually happened.
In any event, any true
correspondence between Nostradamus's nonsense and any
actual event would be purely coincidental at best, but the
correspondences we hear about are illusions based on
someone's translation and interpretation.
Nope. Nostradamus wrote the future, the prophecies of God.
And he is the only one to prove His existence.
I would like to see the chain of thoughts that leads from his
goofy little rhymes to a proof of the existence of a god, either
whatever god you're talking about or any other.
There is only one God.
Nothing goofy there.
You want to have insight on the prophetic spirit of these texts, read what he
says on this link: http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html
But if you insist on closing your eyes, go blindly bang
your head where everyone has banged his nose before, what
the hell do I care for idiots like you.
People who swallow stupid nonsense like that Nostradamus *****
should reserve words like "idiot," etc. for self references.
Instead of that, you should try to justify your blind credulity.
One day, and it can be anytime since most have, the world will see that most of
the prophecies will have been accomplished.
I must admit, it is quite far from being established, since
only Nostradamus can show that God is not dead, and even
though the world will see it as well one day, this day
hasn't arrived.
It was "revealed" to you in a form that can't be communicated to
sane people?
No, I am not privy of a conversation with God about this. I am merely an
exegete, and a researcher. Like my predecessor I study the text, the context,
the old French writing and era, universal history in depth, what 500 years of
exegetes have come up with, and I simply demonstrate the obvious.
Doesn't change that, like with Nietzsche riddle, it is God
Who will say, you (& Nietzsche) is (are) dead in the end,
in history. Not the other way around.
Once upon a time, some humans huddled around an outdoor fire,
trembling with fear because of the sounds of lions and *****
prowling around their camp, said "Let there be God," and there
was God. Of course this happened lots of times, so there are
lots of gods. Except for their placebo-like effects, gods are
basically useless. They're just unnecessary complications in
pursuing questions like "where did all this ***** come from?" or
"why is an abomination like Islam allowed to exist in an
otherwise civilized world?"
You are an atheist, I see. Islam is led by fanatics who disregard God. The
reason Islam is an abomination can be summarized in that link:
http://lexicorient.com/cgi-bin/eo-direct-frame.pl?http://i-cias.com/e.o/jihad.htm
This is not in the Koran, yet they do have scriptures in their holy book by
Mohammed that limit do oblige them to be faithful until their death to Islam if
they have been brought up in that religion. So it is normal that power tripper
would extend that to the whole world. Yes Islam is an abomination, because of
power trips. Not by itself. But all you can do is limit their immigration, cause
as we have seen on 60 minutes this week, in France, they do implement this war
on the rest of humanity and do take over young girls which have no way out once
they even look in their eyes, it is really as you say. But it is not what it
should be. And yes, it is because of that reason that there will be WW3... in
two decades. And there is nothing we can do about it if we can't even change
that simple site or source of education and I tried to have the CIA do something
about it, believe me.
But do you care, do you even listen? I don't think so because I think you think
you are smarter than everybody. Am I wrong?
J.
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| Title: Re: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
22 May 2004 07:18:46 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
John Griffin a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
[snip]
I hope you don't mind me moving your comments down here
to the only logical place.
Unless they are proven right. But it hasn't yet been
established by rigorous demonstration of course, even
though Nostradamus did, I mean, everything he said is
accurte to the dot, for example he told the exact
duration of communism... And so many other precised
occurences, it is unparralleled.
Nostradamus's accuracy is an illusion. Believers merely
define actual events as fulfillments of his frivolous
guesses.
Nope. His quatrains are formulated as to point to a
single unique event.
It might be a single event for each believer, or at least
a single event for each of several factions of believers,
but as long as the believers have differing
interpretations of Nostradamus's nursery rhymes, there's
no unique event.
Even if all the believers did agree on a unique event,
you'd start fighting again as soon as the time passes
without the "prophecy" being fulfilled.
You obviously don't understand.
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies
concerning the future will be, these events didn't take
place yet. We can have an idea, but it is formulated in
such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in
advance. But you can know exactly once the event has
happened, because all the details of the prophecies cannot
apply to more than one event.
That's just a slightly more prolix version of what I said.
Of course you don't "know" in advance. You have to wait
until one of those cutesy little jingles can be bludgeoned
into some semblance of comportment with something that
actually happened.
In any event, any true
correspondence between Nostradamus's nonsense and any
actual event would be purely coincidental at best, but
the correspondences we hear about are illusions based on
someone's translation and interpretation.
Nope. Nostradamus wrote the future, the prophecies of God.
And he is the only one to prove His existence.
I would like to see the chain of thoughts that leads from
his goofy little rhymes to a proof of the existence of a
god, either whatever god you're talking about or any
other.
There is only one God.
Nonsense...there's only one god in many of the "higher being"
fantasies, but some of them have dozens.
Nothing goofy there.
I bet you believe there's only one unicorn, too.
You want to have insight on the prophetic spirit of these
texts, read what he says on this link:
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html
There are millions of things to read. Nonsense about an old dead
clown goes to the bottom of the list.
But if you insist on closing your eyes, go blindly bang
your head where everyone has banged his nose before, what
the hell do I care for idiots like you.
People who swallow stupid nonsense like that Nostradamus
***** should reserve words like "idiot," etc. for self
references. Instead of that, you should try to justify
your blind credulity.
One day, and it can be anytime since most have, the world
will see that most of the prophecies will have been
accomplished.
The world already sees that that's sheer nonsense. Every time
anything notable happens, some Nostradamus Nut says it fulfills
one of those stupid little ditties, and the whole story gets
that much more absurd.
I must admit, it is quite far from being established,
since only Nostradamus can show that God is not dead, and
even though the world will see it as well one day, this
day hasn't arrived.
It was "revealed" to you in a form that can't be
communicated to sane people?
No, I am not privy of a conversation with God about this. I
am merely an exegete, and a researcher. Like my predecessor
I study the text, the context, the old French writing and
era, universal history in depth, what 500 years of exegetes
have come up with, and I simply demonstrate the obvious.
If it were obvious, far better people than any and every
"Nostradamus researcher" would see it without all that wasted
effort, and there are billions of them.
Doesn't change that, like with Nietzsche riddle, it is God
Who will say, you (& Nietzsche) is (are) dead in the end,
in history. Not the other way around.
Once upon a time, some humans huddled around an outdoor
fire, trembling with fear because of the sounds of lions
and ***** prowling around their camp, said "Let there be
God," and there was God. Of course this happened lots of
times, so there are lots of gods. Except for their
placebo-like effects, gods are basically useless. They're
just unnecessary complications in pursuing questions like
"where did all this ***** come from?" or "why is an
abomination like Islam allowed to exist in an otherwise
civilized world?"
You are an atheist, I see. Islam is led by fanatics who
disregard God. The reason Islam is an abomination can be
summarized in that link:
http://lexicorient.com/cgi-bin/eo-direct-frame.pl?http://i-c
ias.com/e.o/jihad.htm
This is not in the Koran, yet they do have scriptures in
their holy book by Mohammed that limit do oblige them to be
faithful until their death to Islam if they have been
brought up in that religion. So it is normal that power
tripper would extend that to the whole world. Yes Islam is
an abomination, because of power trips. Not by itself. But
all you can do is limit their immigration, cause as we have
seen on 60 minutes this week, in France, they do implement
this war on the rest of humanity and do take over young
girls which have no way out once they even look in their
eyes, it is really as you say. But it is not what it should
be. And yes, it is because of that reason that there will
be WW3... in two decades. And there is nothing we can do
about it if we can't even change that simple site or source
of education and I tried to have the CIA do something about
it, believe me.
The only thing we can do is try to get people to stop the
fucking "politically correct" refusals to acknowledge the fact
that Islam is not compatible with modern civilization and that
its slavish adherents are commanded by the cult to try to
overthrow the governments of any non-moslem countries they
infest.
But do you care, do you even listen? I don't think so
because I think you think you are smarter than everybody.
Am I wrong?
Of course you're wrong. That always happens when you believe
something without having any information to base it on.
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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| Title: Re: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
20 May 2004 04:42:41 PM |
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On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:52:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<RC3rc.15854342$Of.2635814@news.easynews.com>:
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies concerning the future will
be, these events didn't take place yet. We can have an idea, but it is
formulated in such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in advance.
Then they are as completely useless as all other "prophecies". Thank
you for acknowledging that.
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"I are so sure of yourself don't you .. (ehe ehe ehe)" - Peitro Alitardia (67d7a369.0404071016.2364431d@posting.google.com)
"No doubt about it, 9-11 was orchestrated by Lockheed." - *lexa 'connects the dots' (cg5t80pl73d7r1s8113tqd19qse0ji0nrq@4ax.com)
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are CowardlySniveling Louts |
21 May 2004 12:05:23 PM |
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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) a écrit:
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:52:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<RC3rc.15854342$Of.2635814@news.easynews.com>:
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies concerning the future will
be, these events didn't take place yet. We can have an idea, but it is
formulated in such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in advance.
Then they are as completely useless as all other "prophecies". Thank
you for acknowledging that.
--
V.G.
I acknowledge this only in your dreams.
They are very useful, in that they prove the existence of God.
What do you expect, that you can change the course of prophecies?
You can't. But they are formulated in such a way as to see they occurred once
they have, because otherwise, if he had dated them, the Seer says that they
would still happen as God said, but the mighty of the world would have hidden
the fact that they had occurred.
What can I tell you, many have your mind set, like that of the frog that wanted
to be bigger than the bull (You know that fable from Jean de la Fontaine), they
care more to show they are like God, or more witty even, than they care for
humanity or the truth. Ego trip, what can I tell you... It is, as you can now
see, a universal reality, not something you invented.
J.
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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| Title: Re: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
21 May 2004 12:20:49 PM |
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:05:23 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<nFqrc.15929852$Of.2654138@news.easynews.com>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) a écrit:
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:52:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<RC3rc.15854342$Of.2635814@news.easynews.com>:
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies concerning the future will
be, these events didn't take place yet. We can have an idea, but it is
formulated in such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in advance.
Then they are as completely useless as all other "prophecies". Thank
you for acknowledging that.
--
V.G.
I acknowledge this only in your dreams.
They are very useful, in that they prove the existence of God.
What do you expect, that you can change the course of prophecies?
*I* can "predict" the past, Jean. It's not that difficult.
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"I are so sure of yourself don't you .. (ehe ehe ehe)" - Peitro Alitardia (67d7a369.0404071016.2364431d@posting.google.com)
"No doubt about it, 9-11 was orchestrated by Lockheed." - *lexa 'connects the dots' (cg5t80pl73d7r1s8113tqd19qse0ji0nrq@4ax.com)
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are CowardlySniveling Louts |
22 May 2004 11:33:48 AM |
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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) a écrit:
On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:05:23 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<nFqrc.15929852$Of.2654138@news.easynews.com>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) a écrit:
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:52:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<RC3rc.15854342$Of.2635814@news.easynews.com>:
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies concerning the future will
be, these events didn't take place yet. We can have an idea, but it is
formulated in such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in advance.
Then they are as completely useless as all other "prophecies". Thank
you for acknowledging that.
--
V.G.
I acknowledge this only in your dreams.
They are very useful, in that they prove the existence of God.
What do you expect, that you can change the course of prophecies?
*I* can "predict" the past, Jean. It's not that difficult.
--
V.G.
And your point is?
J.
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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| Title: Re: No Nietzsche -> DA! zsche! :-) Re: Secular Scientists Are Cowardly Sniveling Louts |
23 May 2004 10:20:01 AM |
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On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:33:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<MhLrc.5038795$iA2.584930@news.easynews.com>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) a écrit:
On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:05:23 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<nFqrc.15929852$Of.2654138@news.easynews.com>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) a écrit:
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:52:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<RC3rc.15854342$Of.2635814@news.easynews.com>:
There is no way to know exactly what the prophecies concerning the future will
be, these events didn't take place yet. We can have an idea, but it is
formulated in such a way that it is not possible to know exactly in advance.
Then they are as completely useless as all other "prophecies". Thank
you for acknowledging that.
--
V.G.
I acknowledge this only in your dreams.
They are very useful, in that they prove the existence of God.
What do you expect, that you can change the course of prophecies?
*I* can "predict" the past, Jean. It's not that difficult.
--
V.G.
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