Several Steps Closer
To Armageddon
By John Chuckman
10-17-3
The United States apparently has fitted out the Harpoon missiles it
previously supplied Israel to accommodate nuclear warheads. These
missiles are carried on three German-built submarines, making a
reality of Israel's grandiose plan for a nuclear-triad force, a
miniature replica of America's land-air-sea nuclear force in a country
with a total population smaller than greater Chicago. Perhaps more
pertinent, the missiles' nuclear capability extends a threat towards
Iran, bringing home to its leaders the possible consequences of "going
nuclear."
A step like this, taken by either side during the Cold War, would have
been regarded as a serious escalation in arms, but now it causes
barely a ripple in the United States. There are, of course, signed
obligations that American-supplied weapons are to be used only for
Israel's defense, yet these have been violated many times, most
notoriously during the invasion of Lebanon - a bloody, aggressive war
led by the very man who now leads Israel.
Iran almost certainly wants to become a nuclear power, and it has
nothing to do with being "evil." It is for all the reasons that Israel
secretly went nuclear, for all the reasons that South Africa secretly
went nuclear before the end of apartheid, and for all the reasons that
North Korea has gone nuclear. When you have determined enemies, and
especially when they include, as they do in Iran's case, the world's
great power, nuclear weapons must appear reassuring.
This is certainly the case for North Korea, another country branded as
"evil," and Bush is directly responsible for destroying a framework of
understanding and cooperation with that country established through
years of hard diplomacy, all in the interest of bluster and
demonstrating how tough he is. There have been many threatening words
and activities aimed at North Korea under the Bush version of foreign
policy, as for example significant changes being made to the
deployment of American forces at North Korea's southern border.
The United States has invaded and occupied Iran's neighbor, Iraq, has
pointedly designated Iran as "evil," and during the long and vicious
Iran-Iraq war, it supported the aggressor, Iraq, even to the point of
shooting down an Iranian airliner in error without so much as a proper
apology and disgracefully tolerating Iraq's extensive use of chemical
weapons. The older generation of Iranians must remember, too, that the
United States overthrew their democratically-elected government and
supported the Shah who for decades terrorized all who opposed him.
Much of the excess of the Iranian Revolution sprang from grievances
over that.
Of course, we have to put in the balance the so-called Bush Doctrine,
a rather exalted-sounding expression for a crude threat against anyone
suspected of wrong-doing by America's narrow and paranoid reckoning,
something that has sent shivers through much of the world and will
almost certainly drive still others towards more sophisticated
weaponry. My, what a contribution to peace and stability.
Israel launched an attack against Syria (again using those American
weapons supposedly restricted to defense), claiming it was against
bases harboring terrorists. The President of the United States almost
welcomed this open act of war, whose stated reason remains about as
well demonstrated as Iraq's strategic weapons stockpile, but then Bush
had talked around invading Syria himself before coming to understand
into what a hornet's nest he had heedlessly thrust his fist in Iraq.
Someone in Gaza has killed Americans. It may well have been an
accident because it truly does not serve the interests of residents.
One has to admire the restraint shown by Palestinians all these years
since America has hurt them many times with unfulfilled promises and
unbalanced policy, a situation now grotesquely pushed to extremes by
Bush. Almost any brutal thing Israel does is an act for peace. The
Palestinians are told even who their leader cannot be and are treated
like wayward children by a President himself never elected to office.
Sharon's concrete-monster wall, called a neighborly-sounding fence in
the odd political language of Israel, continues abuilding, taking
additional Palestinian land here and there as its millions of pounds
of concrete are poured. The wall effectively serves as a giant
tourniquet applied to the arteries of any future Palestinian state,
but that almost certainly is the idea, a new and less violent approach
to ridding the area of undesirable residents. Greater Israel remains a
dream for many, but especially for the party in power and its key
allies.
I just received an e-mail vividly reminding me of that. It was from an
Israeli still dreaming about Arab states taking the Palestinians, even
naming the places they might go, as though these
economically-depressed places with some of the world's highest
birthrates could absorb about 3 1/2 million immigrants. In his
dreaming there was no awareness that he truly was describing a form of
ethnic-cleansing, no awareness that the hideous Nazis tried exactly
same thing during the 1930s. Their effort to export Germany's innocent
Jews, to expel those their blind ideology insisted were a problem,
failed. This man's dream, too, cannot but fail, and God knows where
that will take us.
"life is like a mushroom, they feed you ***** and keep you in the dark"
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18 Oct 2003 04:57:38 PM |
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wrote in message news:<9bb2pvkroprlg09rubem4lnnldu6cuoheb@4ax.com>...
Several Steps Closer
To Armageddon
By John Chuckman
10-17-3
The United States apparently has fitted out the Harpoon missiles it
previously supplied Israel to accommodate nuclear warheads. These
missiles are carried on three German-built submarines, making a
reality of Israel's grandiose plan for a nuclear-triad force, a
miniature replica of America's land-air-sea nuclear force in a country
with a total population smaller than greater Chicago. Perhaps more
pertinent, the missiles' nuclear capability extends a threat towards
Iran, bringing home to its leaders the possible consequences of "going
nuclear."
A step like this, taken by either side during the Cold War, would have
been regarded as a serious escalation in arms, but now it causes
barely a ripple in the United States. There are, of course, signed
obligations that American-supplied weapons are to be used only for
Israel's defense, yet these have been violated many times, most
notoriously during the invasion of Lebanon - a bloody, aggressive war
led by the very man who now leads Israel.
Never fear Nostradamus tell us the Jews join up with the Arabs and we
become the focus for fun and games.
C8Q96. The sterile synagogue without any fruit, will be received by
the infidels, the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad 7, they will clip her wings.
7 miserable and sad her wings will be clipped = Or misery and sadness
will clip her wings
XCVI. La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit Sera receu entre les
infideles De Babylon la fille du porsuit Misere et triste lui
trenchera les aisles.
LB
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19 Oct 2003 03:21:30 AM |
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On 18 Oct 2003 14:57:38 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Never fear Nostradamus tell us the Jews join up with the Arabs and we
become the focus for fun and games.
C8Q96. The sterile synagogue without any fruit, will be received by
the infidels, the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad 7, they will clip her wings.
7 miserable and sad her wings will be clipped = Or misery and sadness
will clip her wings
XCVI. La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit Sera receu entre les
infideles De Babylon la fille du porsuit Misere et triste lui
trenchera les aisles.
VIII.96. Original text of 1568 edition
La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receu entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
The sterile, fruitless synagogue of yore
Shall ’midst the infidels be welcomèd
Till Babel’s daughter, chasing all before,
Shall, sad and wretched, clip its wings instead.
Source: The contemporary emigration of persecuted Jews from Spain and
Italy to the more tolerant Ottoman - even though Muslim - dispensation
of Suleiman the Magnificent in Turkey. One of them, named Don Joseph
Nassi, who emigrated to Constantinople in 1553, even became a powerful
figure there. However, Nostradamus expects them to be persecuted at
the time of the Mirabilis liber’s predicted Arab invasion: see I.9,
I.75, II.24.
[Translation and analysis from 'Nostradamus: The Illustrated
Prophecies' (O Books, November 2003: copyright (c) Peter Lemesurier
2003)]
This is supposed to come, of course, *before* the eventual Christian
re-invasion of the Middle East and the conversion of the Muslims to
Christianity (!!).
Does it still fit?
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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20 Oct 2003 10:52:47 PM |
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Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<n0i4pv8mi121ftsld2lt3lfm6bvko7muu2@4ax.com>...
On 18 Oct 2003 14:57:38 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Never fear Nostradamus tell us the Jews join up with the Arabs and we
become the focus for fun and games.
C8Q96. The sterile synagogue without any fruit, will be received by
the infidels, the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad 7, they will clip her wings.
7 miserable and sad her wings will be clipped = Or misery and sadness
will clip her wings
XCVI. La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit Sera receu entre les
infideles De Babylon la fille du porsuit Misere et triste lui
trenchera les aisles.
VIII.96. Original text of 1568 edition
La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receu entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
The sterile, fruitless synagogue of yore
Shall ?midst the infidels be welcomèd
Till Babel?s daughter, chasing all before,
Shall, sad and wretched, clip its wings instead.
Source: The contemporary emigration of persecuted Jews from Spain and
Italy to the more tolerant Ottoman - even though Muslim - dispensation
of Suleiman the Magnificent in Turkey. One of them, named Don Joseph
Nassi, who emigrated to Constantinople in 1553, even became a powerful
figure there. However, Nostradamus expects them to be persecuted at
the time of the Mirabilis liber?s predicted Arab invasion: see I.9,
I.75, II.24.
[Translation and analysis from 'Nostradamus: The Illustrated
Prophecies' (O Books, November 2003: copyright (c) Peter Lemesurier
2003)]
This is supposed to come, of course, *before* the eventual Christian
re-invasion of the Middle East and the conversion of the Muslims to
Christianity (!!).
Does it still fit?
yes siree yes indeedy do !!!!!
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| User: "christisdore" |
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21 Oct 2003 04:57:25 PM |
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(World War Three 2003) wrote in message news:<c6cdac60.0310201952.213f4ead@posting.google.com>...
Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<n0i4pv8mi121ftsld2lt3lfm6bvko7muu2@4ax.com>...
On 18 Oct 2003 14:57:38 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Never fear Nostradamus tell us the Jews join up with the Arabs and we
become the focus for fun and games.
C8Q96. The sterile synagogue without any fruit, will be received by
the infidels, the daughter of the persecuted (man) of Babylon,
miserable and sad 7, they will clip her wings.
7 miserable and sad her wings will be clipped = Or misery and sadness
will clip her wings
XCVI. La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit Sera receu entre les
infideles De Babylon la fille du porsuit Misere et triste lui
trenchera les aisles.
VIII.96. Original text of 1568 edition
La synagogue sterile sans nul fruit
Sera receu entre les infideles
De Babylon la fille du porsuit
Misere & triste luy trenchera les aisles.
The sterile, fruitless synagogue of yore
Shall ?midst the infidels be welcomèd
Till Babel?s daughter, chasing all before,
Shall, sad and wretched, clip its wings instead.
Source: The contemporary emigration of persecuted Jews from Spain and
Italy to the more tolerant Ottoman - even though Muslim - dispensation
of Suleiman the Magnificent in Turkey. One of them, named Don Joseph
Nassi, who emigrated to Constantinople in 1553, even became a powerful
figure there. However, Nostradamus expects them to be persecuted at
the time of the Mirabilis liber?s predicted Arab invasion: see I.9,
I.75, II.24.
[Translation and analysis from 'Nostradamus: The Illustrated
Prophecies' (O Books, November 2003: copyright (c) Peter Lemesurier
2003)]
This is supposed to come, of course, *before* the eventual Christian
re-invasion of the Middle East and the conversion of the Muslims to
Christianity (!!).
Does it still fit?
yes siree yes indeedy do !!!!!
Yep. A lot of Nosty propaganda, typical of the medicine man.
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21 Oct 2003 12:11:20 PM |
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(World War Three 2003) wrote in message news:<c6cdac60.0310201952.213f4ead@posting.google.com>...
Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<n0i4pv8mi121ftsld2lt3lfm6bvko7muu2@4ax.com>...
On 18 Oct 2003 14:57:38 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
[Translation and analysis from 'Nostradamus: The Illustrated
Prophecies' (O Books, November 2003: copyright (c) Peter Lemesurier
2003)]
This is supposed to come, of course, *before* the eventual Christian
re-invasion of the Middle East and the conversion of the Muslims to
Christianity (!!).
Does it still fit?
yes siree yes indeedy do !!!!!
Strange after reading posts from Mr. Britton that it usually fits even
better than before!
Signs of the Eastern King of France:
BIRTH:
On a Thursday
At night
During a cold winter
Day celebrated as holiday
Rising sign is one of the three water signs
Humble birth and obscure lineage
Signs in the sky
Birth in the eastern quarters of Asia "beyond Tartary" or "in the
quarters of Hind or Cina"
NAME:
Known by three names
Name given by three sisters after birth is "savage"
Surname is foreign to the French
Middle name means "ocean"
IMPORTANT DATES:
1999 -- 'Resuscitated' by 'King of Terror'
2003 -- He rises to power making clear N's prophecies
CHARACTERISTICS
A prophet
Very knowledgeable
Good speaker capable of both "ornate" and "wrathful" words
Handsome
In 30s or 40s when he ascends
Widely traveled
Served as a soldier
Of dusky hue (to a European)
Attentive to foreign women
ACTIONS
Reconstructs ancient blood line
Resurrects royal heritage
Takes that which was pledged to his ancestors, including claims to
thrones
Uses special ensignia
Causes wealth to be distributed
Delivers a great people from impositions
Frees people from voluntary slavery
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21 Oct 2003 05:22:10 PM |
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From: loftydragon (loftydragon@hotmail.com)
Subject:
Date: 2003-10-21 10:11:21 PST
worldwarthree2003@hotmail.com (World War Three 2003) wrote in message news:<c6cdac60.0310201952.213f4ead@posting.google.com>...
Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<n0i4pv8mi121ftsld2lt3lfm6bvko7muu2@4ax.com>...
On 18 Oct 2003 14:57:38 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
[Translation and analysis from 'Nostradamus: The Illustrated
Prophecies' (O Books, November 2003: copyright (c) Peter Lemesurier
2003)]
This is supposed to come, of course, *before* the eventual Christian
re-invasion of the Middle East and the conversion of the Muslims to
Christianity (!!).
Is that round one or two?
Does it still fit?
You are the "fashion" of this scenario
yes siree yes indeedy do !!!!!
Strange after reading posts from Mr. Britton that it usually fits even
better than before!
Because he is made to measure!
Well for me the supposed battle of Armageddon is literally decades
away, but that still leaves some time for other adventures which are
afoot at present.
The Middle East has to go into meltdown, reason I just do not think
the money will make any difference.
Asia generally and Africa.
LB
Signs of an Eastern king
Ascendency:
P40. Mortal sequence in death of the house seven, hail, tempest,
pestilence evil, furies: King of the East 3 all of the West in flight,
He will, subjugate his former conquerers.
3 King of the East =a new Asian leader.
P40. De maison sept par mort mortelle suite, Grele tempété, pestilent
mal fureurs: Roi D'Orient d'Occident tous en fuite, Subjugera ses
jadis conquereurs 2.
2 conquereurs = OF: conquerer.
Fit positively epileptic.
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21 Oct 2003 09:53:21 PM |
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(Leigh_Bee) wrote in message news:<39cd5fe.0310211422.290e5f80@posting.google.com>...
From: loftydragon (loftydragon@hotmail.com)
Subject:
Date: 2003-10-21 10:11:21 PST
worldwarthree2003@hotmail.com (World War Three 2003) wrote in message news:<c6cdac60.0310201952.213f4ead@posting.google.com>...
Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<n0i4pv8mi121ftsld2lt3lfm6bvko7muu2@4ax.com>...
On 18 Oct 2003 14:57:38 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
[Translation and analysis from 'Nostradamus: The Illustrated
Prophecies' (O Books, November 2003: copyright (c) Peter Lemesurier
2003)]
This is supposed to come, of course, *before* the eventual Christian
re-invasion of the Middle East and the conversion of the Muslims to
Christianity (!!).
Is that round one or two?
Does it still fit?
Mr. Peter Ewart Britton 's mantra on everything to do with Nostradamus, as
long as it "fits" retrospectively to maintain Mr Britton 's so-called
"credibility" !!!
============================================================================
You are the "fashion" of this scenario
yes siree yes indeedy do !!!!!
Strange after reading posts from Mr. Britton that it usually fits even
better than before!
Because he is made to measure!
Well for me the supposed battle of Armageddon is literally decades
away, but that still leaves some time for other adventures which are
afoot at present.
The Middle East has to go into meltdown, reason I just do not think
the money will make any difference.
Asia generally and Africa.
LB
Signs of an Eastern king
Ascendency:
P40. Mortal sequence in death of the house seven, hail, tempest,
pestilence evil, furies: King of the East 3 all of the West in flight,
He will, subjugate his former conquerers.
3 King of the East =a new Asian leader.
P40. De maison sept par mort mortelle suite, Grele tempété, pestilent
mal fureurs: Roi D'Orient d'Occident tous en fuite, Subjugera ses
jadis conquereurs 2.
2 conquereurs = OF: conquerer.
Fit positively epileptic.
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22 Oct 2003 03:51:51 PM |
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(Leigh_Bee) wrote in message news:<39cd5fe.0310211422.290e5f80@posting.google.com>...
From: loftydragon (loftydragon@hotmail.com)
Subject:
LB
Signs of an Eastern king
Ascendency:
P40. Mortal sequence in death of the house seven, hail, tempest,
pestilence evil, furies: King of the East 3 all of the West in flight,
He will, subjugate his former conquerers.
3 King of the East =a new Asian leader.
P40. De maison sept par mort mortelle suite, Grele tempété, pestilent
mal fureurs: Roi D'Orient d'Occident tous en fuite, Subjugera ses
jadis conquereurs 2.
2 conquereurs = OF: conquerer.
How do you explain the first line? That could give the clue to the timing.
Signs of the Eastern King of France:
BIRTH:
On a Thursday
At night
During a cold winter
Day celebrated as holiday
Rising sign is one of the three water signs
Humble birth and obscure lineage
Signs in the sky
Birth in the eastern quarters of Asia "beyond Tartary" or "in the
quarters of Hind or Cina"
NAME:
Known by three names
Name given by three sisters after birth is "savage"
Surname is foreign to the French
Middle name means "ocean"
IMPORTANT DATES:
1999 -- 'Resuscitated' by 'King of Terror'
2003 -- He rises to power making clear N's prophecies
CHARACTERISTICS
A prophet
Very knowledgeable
Good speaker capable of both "ornate" and "wrathful" words
Handsome
In 30s or 40s when he ascends
Widely traveled
Served as a soldier
Of dusky hue (to a European)
Attentive to foreign women
ACTIONS
Reconstructs ancient blood line
Resurrects royal heritage
Takes that which was pledged to his ancestors, including claims to
thrones
Uses special ensignia
Causes wealth to be distributed
Delivers a great people from impositions
Frees people from voluntary slavery
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22 Oct 2003 04:38:22 PM |
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Having skipped an E.L.F. meeting to be here,
(loftydragon) scribbled:
Signs of the Eastern King of France:
Nostradamus NEVER wrote about an 'eastern king of France'.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
It's your SIG, say what you want to say....
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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21 Oct 2003 02:38:13 PM |
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Having skipped an E.L.F. meeting to be here,
(loftydragon) scribbled:
Signs of the Eastern King of France:
Nostradamus STILL hasn't written anything about an 'eastern king of France'.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
It's your SIG, say what you want to say....
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