Nostradamus's prophecies may coincide with events now unfolding,
but not in the way most people think.
Most of his writings have been interpreted, misinterpreted and
misaligned to mean almost anything, just as the Bible has been
used to justify everything from the Native American Holocaust,
which killed 20 million people, in the name of 'saving' them,
to the NeoCons, who use the same excuse to attack and
occupy it, (just as the Soviets did in Afghanistan --- to "liberate")
The power elite in Washington, D.C. (as always, regardless of
Party affiliation) are driven by sillent puppet masters, who benefit
directly from the business of war. The oldest profession in the world.
That powerful elite is revealing a growth in its sinister agenda
of force and violence.
What kind of people are capable of doing this, of working all
their days planning 'shock and awe' programs, planning new
weapons (like the US Army bio-weapons labs, that just recreated
the Spanish Flu virus as a potential weapon). What kinds of
'Good Nazi's' can work diligently to plan carpet bombing
campaigns on major cities, simply for a political (and business)
agenda, then blame the victims?
This happened when the Native Americans were massacred, when
their population destroyed, until only 10% of its original population
remained.
After all the excuses were made, wasn't the genocide intended simply
to steal their land? Once the gulit settled in, did anyone redraw the
maps?
After all the excuses, the US is doing the same in Iraq.
Secure the land for future lucrative contracts, and to
keep the price of oil below target levels.
What kind of men can drop cluster bombs on crowded
neighborhoods, and go home to their kids and hug them,
knowing they've left hundreds of dead children behind,
children already clinging to the edge of existence from
poverty.
The ONLY reason we let THEM do this, and because we
to blame, not Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,
Pearle, Rice and Powell. We are the ones who thrust the
mantle of killer on their shoulders. They sating our blood lust,
our hatred, our ignorance and filling some of the emptiness
most Americans have as human beings. We gave them the
thumbs up, and they were only too happy to please. We
hired these professional murderers to do our dirty work, and we
cheered them on.
For most people In the United States, there is no longer any
real meaning to their existence, other than the narrowest
self-interest. When September 11th, 2001 happened, it was
like cold rinse in an otherwise lukewarm, comatose shower of
materialism, selfishness and greed. Americans lack a larger
signficance. They are mere shells of human beings, going
through the motions, pretending they are righteous, pretending they
are moral and pretending they are honest, when they are none of
these. They lie and pretend, to cover up this all too painful fact.
And their popular media provides all the materials they need
to maintain that lie.
When September 11th happened Americans sensed the
party was over, that the joyride of material abundance
and moral oblivion they'd become accustomed to were threatened
by a force which virtually none can understand. Because they
cannot understand, have limited knowledge and intellience,
they turn to the fast-food version of "information", to the
giant corporative, agenda-laced mass media, which then serves them
their fast, greasy, chemical laden, bacteria ridden so-called news.
They spoon feed the Americans little bits of sounds and images,
always heavily censored in advance, they spoon feed them like
children, sometimes with a littl truth, sometimes with news, but
always in small bites, and always preprocessed.
The shock of seeing the Saudi Arabian Flying Circus come
to town (even though their President's family had longtime business
dealings with the circus master), and the circus was bought and paid
for by America's "friends", it didn't seem to make any
difference. America was too busy with its bloodlust, it's fangs in the
neck of the "enemy du jure" to bother to look at anything as
disruptive as "the facts."
America collectively acts like a psychotic, retarded child with an
attention disorder. It's first impulse is to hold its ears shut, and
then go kill someone. Many thousands of someones, including
thousands of Asian women and children, guilty of the heinous crime of
existing and being poor.
Americans know their country has sold their soul to the Devil, some
have sold their sole to the Devil many times. They knew this
at a time when they enslaved the Black man, but lied to themselves,
justified their lies. They knew it when they massacred the Red man,
by the many millions. They knew it when they raped and pillaged
Hawaii from its native inhabitants. They know it now. They
justify it, and justify their lies, but they know it and they accept
it, because the puppet masters are giving them what they want.
Yes, the party is over.It's easy for the psychotic, angry child to
kill, but like any self-indulgent child, America will take no
responsibility for its actions. It will continue to blame the poor,
the disenfranchised, the victims of the wars and despots American
ha sthrust on them.
America is on the Empire spiral, and all empires deteriorate and
eventually disintigrate.
All empires deteriorate and eventually disintegrate.
And if Nostradamus did get it right about a king of the East appearing
on the scene in 2003, it would coincide with a prophesy (yes, a
prophesy) from Osama Bin Laden. He said in 2001, that in 2003,
he would meet his end in 2003, in "the Belly of an Eagle".
If he does, then he will have fulfilled his own prophesy. Depending on
what he means by his cryptic message, it may fulfill others. There are
not many months left to find out.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will see itself as conqueror
of the world, above the law, when in reality it is no more than a
rampaging, arrogant animal, with a hollow core where a soul should
be.
America acts as a beast, while it's blissfully ignorant citizens
continue to look the other way, and enjoy thier material comforts, in
their pitifully narrow and ignorant lives.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
understand that "Terrorism" is a no more than a label for the
harvest of the unrest it has sown into the ground. And it is only one
symptom of a world that has been plowed with too much violence, to
benefit a few.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
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19 Oct 2003 12:23:31 AM |
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This happened when the Native Americans were massacred, when
their population destroyed, until only 10% of its original population
remained.
After all the excuses were made, wasn't the genocide intended simply
to steal their land? Once the gulit settled in, did anyone redraw the
maps?
Do I hear guilt for the acts of your ancestors? Step 9 of the program of
Alcoholics Anonymous has a suggested remedy for guilt. It's a spiritual
concept thats 5000 years old. So when can I have the deed to your land?
While you're at it, please explain to DippShit the plight of the native
people of Canada. Why is their suicide rate so high? And why do white
canucks persist in referring to Aboriginal woman in such foul sexual terms?
I hear it everytime I visit canuckland. Gets rather sickening.
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| User: "Anon Ymous" |
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18 Oct 2003 10:25:04 PM |
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Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own life and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want to be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you know it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...
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| User: "dreamwalker backfrom" |
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
19 Oct 2003 12:39:46 AM |
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"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own life and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want to be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you know it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole from
my people.
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| User: "" |
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19 Oct 2003 07:02:21 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> burped:
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole from
my people.
IDIOT. Haven't you fucking American scum stolen enough from the world
now? What goes around comes around....don't forget it!!!!
"life is like a mushroom, they feed you ***** and keep you in the dark"
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| User: "Anon Ymous" |
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19 Oct 2003 02:04:33 PM |
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wrote in message news:<t7v4pvge6umd6vdf6lmjbcg3v4l8eceikk@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> burped:
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole from
my people.
IDIOT. Haven't you fucking American scum stolen enough from the world
now? What goes around comes around....don't forget it!!!!
So, in your humble opinion (chuckle), what is "coming around" to the
Iraqi people right now is a manifestation of their national karma and
is therefore just?
And, since everything that goes around eventually comes around, the
"evil" Americans will eventually pay for their crimes whether or not
you participate in the "payback?"
Wow Daark! I didn't realize you were a Buddhist--always had you pegged
for a xenophobic antisemetic bassackwards Muslim bigot. Always seemed
like if you traded your turban and crescent moon for a cowboy hat and
a burning cross, you'd be a perfect fit for one of the U.S.'s more
archaic communties. Go figure! Soon you'll be boiling sea water for
the salt!
S~
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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19 Oct 2003 12:26:58 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own life and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want to be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you know it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel pooch
next door.
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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| User: "dreamwalker backfrom" |
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
19 Oct 2003 03:14:11 AM |
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n184pv4b118p31e7k2q65gdoetl8tg61mp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own life and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want to be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you know it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be
released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole
from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel pooch
next door.
My mother was a twist cone. Half Ojibwe, half, oh dear God.......French.
Dear ole grandpapa deserted her at birth. Papa was a full blood (Ojibwe).
Alcoholic and all. You know, pretty much the whole sob story.
I was raised in squalor on a northern Wisconsin Chippewa res during
pre-casino times. Call me 3/4 assimilated. I still enjoy hanging out in the
sweat lodge with elders. Mama raised me Catholic. She did her best with a
idiot savant like me. Papa was a 1st Lieutenant during WW2. Poured his heart
and soul into the military. Died at 53 from acute esophageal variceal
hemorrhage while lying drunk on the kitchen floor. Was that ever a fucking
mess.
Me? I joined up. Learned to run an Abrams and later turn a lathe. I now
employ several white men who I tell what to do on a daily basis. Not bad for
a dyslexic Chippewa with a mental health disorder and probable GWS.
Now where's my fucking deed?
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
19 Oct 2003 03:34:40 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:14:11 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n184pv4b118p31e7k2q65gdoetl8tg61mp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own life and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want to be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you know it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be
released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole
from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel pooch
next door.
My mother was a twist cone. Half Ojibwe, half, oh dear God.......French.
Dear ole grandpapa deserted her at birth. Papa was a full blood (Ojibwe).
Alcoholic and all. You know, pretty much the whole sob story.
I was raised in squalor on a northern Wisconsin Chippewa res during
pre-casino times. Call me 3/4 assimilated. I still enjoy hanging out in the
sweat lodge with elders. Mama raised me Catholic. She did her best with a
idiot savant like me. Papa was a 1st Lieutenant during WW2. Poured his heart
and soul into the military. Died at 53 from acute esophageal variceal
hemorrhage while lying drunk on the kitchen floor. Was that ever a fucking
mess.
Me? I joined up. Learned to run an Abrams and later turn a lathe. I now
employ several white men who I tell what to do on a daily basis. Not bad for
a dyslexic Chippewa with a mental health disorder and probable GWS.
Now where's my fucking deed?
Your deeds are written in the cosmic record
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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| User: "dreamwalker backfrom" |
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
19 Oct 2003 11:35:26 AM |
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:f3j4pvsone614nqbi3oclohb4h87v0ir8h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:14:11 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n184pv4b118p31e7k2q65gdoetl8tg61mp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own life
and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want to
be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you know
it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is
the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be
released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good
Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole
from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel pooch
next door.
My mother was a twist cone. Half Ojibwe, half, oh dear God.......French.
Dear ole grandpapa deserted her at birth. Papa was a full blood (Ojibwe).
Alcoholic and all. You know, pretty much the whole sob story.
I was raised in squalor on a northern Wisconsin Chippewa res during
pre-casino times. Call me 3/4 assimilated. I still enjoy hanging out in
the
sweat lodge with elders. Mama raised me Catholic. She did her best with a
idiot savant like me. Papa was a 1st Lieutenant during WW2. Poured his
heart
and soul into the military. Died at 53 from acute esophageal variceal
hemorrhage while lying drunk on the kitchen floor. Was that ever a
fucking
mess.
Me? I joined up. Learned to run an Abrams and later turn a lathe. I now
employ several white men who I tell what to do on a daily basis. Not bad
for
a dyslexic Chippewa with a mental health disorder and probable GWS.
Now where's my fucking deed?
Your deeds are written in the cosmic record
Like all so called do gooders, your good intentions always stop short of
action. America's story since 1850 ......at least when "liberty and justice
for all" gets applied to the 1st Americans. You're a phony, Mark. Don't feel
alone. So is every European who owns land in America and bitches about how
the poor native American got treated. Well, when's the last time you wrote
you're senator to address the injustice? Like I said, phony.
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
19 Oct 2003 12:20:03 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:35:26 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:f3j4pvsone614nqbi3oclohb4h87v0ir8h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:14:11 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n184pv4b118p31e7k2q65gdoetl8tg61mp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own life
and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want to
be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you know
it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is
the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be
released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good
Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors stole
from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel pooch
next door.
My mother was a twist cone. Half Ojibwe, half, oh dear God.......French.
Dear ole grandpapa deserted her at birth. Papa was a full blood (Ojibwe).
Alcoholic and all. You know, pretty much the whole sob story.
I was raised in squalor on a northern Wisconsin Chippewa res during
pre-casino times. Call me 3/4 assimilated. I still enjoy hanging out in
the
sweat lodge with elders. Mama raised me Catholic. She did her best with a
idiot savant like me. Papa was a 1st Lieutenant during WW2. Poured his
heart
and soul into the military. Died at 53 from acute esophageal variceal
hemorrhage while lying drunk on the kitchen floor. Was that ever a
fucking
mess.
Me? I joined up. Learned to run an Abrams and later turn a lathe. I now
employ several white men who I tell what to do on a daily basis. Not bad
for
a dyslexic Chippewa with a mental health disorder and probable GWS.
Now where's my fucking deed?
Your deeds are written in the cosmic record
Like all so called do gooders, your good intentions always stop short of
action. America's story since 1850 ......at least when "liberty and justice
for all" gets applied to the 1st Americans. You're a phony, Mark. Don't feel
alone. So is every European who owns land in America and bitches about how
the poor native American got treated. Well, when's the last time you wrote
you're senator to address the injustice? Like I said, phony.
And what makes you think I'm White?
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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19 Oct 2003 03:13:07 PM |
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:jqh5pvovdlserqiskno434h6li1r9jkf0d@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:35:26 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:f3j4pvsone614nqbi3oclohb4h87v0ir8h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:14:11 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n184pv4b118p31e7k2q65gdoetl8tg61mp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all
the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause
in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering
by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own
life
and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you
dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want
to
be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you
know
it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is
the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to
rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will
never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you
that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected
Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be
released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good
Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors
stole
from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native
American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel pooch
next door.
My mother was a twist cone. Half Ojibwe, half, oh dear
God.......French.
Dear ole grandpapa deserted her at birth. Papa was a full blood
(Ojibwe).
Alcoholic and all. You know, pretty much the whole sob story.
I was raised in squalor on a northern Wisconsin Chippewa res during
pre-casino times. Call me 3/4 assimilated. I still enjoy hanging out
in
the
sweat lodge with elders. Mama raised me Catholic. She did her best
with a
idiot savant like me. Papa was a 1st Lieutenant during WW2. Poured his
heart
and soul into the military. Died at 53 from acute esophageal variceal
hemorrhage while lying drunk on the kitchen floor. Was that ever a
fucking
mess.
Me? I joined up. Learned to run an Abrams and later turn a lathe. I
now
employ several white men who I tell what to do on a daily basis. Not
bad
for
a dyslexic Chippewa with a mental health disorder and probable GWS.
Now where's my fucking deed?
Your deeds are written in the cosmic record
Like all so called do gooders, your good intentions always stop short of
action. America's story since 1850 ......at least when "liberty and
justice
for all" gets applied to the 1st Americans. You're a phony, Mark. Don't
feel
alone. So is every European who owns land in America and bitches about
how
the poor native American got treated. Well, when's the last time you
wrote
you're senator to address the injustice? Like I said, phony.
And what makes you think I'm White?
I'm a brown skin. Your whiteness is obvious. Duh!
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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19 Oct 2003 02:47:43 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:13:07 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:jqh5pvovdlserqiskno434h6li1r9jkf0d@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:35:26 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:f3j4pvsone614nqbi3oclohb4h87v0ir8h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:14:11 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n184pv4b118p31e7k2q65gdoetl8tg61mp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that all
the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you cause
in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of suffering
by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own
life
and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way, you
dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and want
to
be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you
know
it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end. I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism is
the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to
rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will
never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you
that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected
Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall be
released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of good
Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors
stole
from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native
American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel pooch
next door.
My mother was a twist cone. Half Ojibwe, half, oh dear
God.......French.
Dear ole grandpapa deserted her at birth. Papa was a full blood
(Ojibwe).
Alcoholic and all. You know, pretty much the whole sob story.
I was raised in squalor on a northern Wisconsin Chippewa res during
pre-casino times. Call me 3/4 assimilated. I still enjoy hanging out
in
the
sweat lodge with elders. Mama raised me Catholic. She did her best
with a
idiot savant like me. Papa was a 1st Lieutenant during WW2. Poured his
heart
and soul into the military. Died at 53 from acute esophageal variceal
hemorrhage while lying drunk on the kitchen floor. Was that ever a
fucking
mess.
Me? I joined up. Learned to run an Abrams and later turn a lathe. I
now
employ several white men who I tell what to do on a daily basis. Not
bad
for
a dyslexic Chippewa with a mental health disorder and probable GWS.
Now where's my fucking deed?
Your deeds are written in the cosmic record
Like all so called do gooders, your good intentions always stop short of
action. America's story since 1850 ......at least when "liberty and
justice
for all" gets applied to the 1st Americans. You're a phony, Mark. Don't
feel
alone. So is every European who owns land in America and bitches about
how
the poor native American got treated. Well, when's the last time you
wrote
you're senator to address the injustice? Like I said, phony.
And what makes you think I'm White?
I'm a brown skin. Your whiteness is obvious. Duh!
White man's education doesn't make me White, Mr. Coconut.
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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| User: "dreamwalker backfrom" |
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19 Oct 2003 06:42:37 PM |
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:ngq5pv0nuq21cla2svu5guapu6v6pf6bb5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:13:07 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:jqh5pvovdlserqiskno434h6li1r9jkf0d@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:35:26 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:f3j4pvsone614nqbi3oclohb4h87v0ir8h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:14:11 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n184pv4b118p31e7k2q65gdoetl8tg61mp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:46 -0700, "dreamwalker" <backfrom
the@dead.com> wrote:
"Anon Ymous" <shastaman@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:5c2e70b2.0310181925.71db7e6e@posting.google.com...
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
My word Mark,
You really should stop bein' a troll and take up Buddhism. In
Buddhism, you get to believe in karma. You can believe that
all
the
suffering you go through is a product of the suffering you
cause
in
the hear and know. You can choose to end the cycle of
suffering
by
attaining enlightement. You take responsibility for your own
life
and
you know that others are responsible for theirs. That way,
you
dont
have to flip out and use a lot of bad reasoning and phoney
guilt-tripping to attack people who you really worship and
want
to
be
like.
You also believe that the suffering caused by others is their
own
responsibility, so you don't perpetuate suffering, because you
know
it
will come back on you, don't you?
Mark my words, what you send out comes back to you in the end.
I
should point out that I'm not a Buddhist, but I think Buddhism
is
the
way for you.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to
rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will
never
And remember! Passive voice should not be used! And it's du
jour...not du jure...it's French. A Canadian could tell you
that.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected
Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...
--Morpheus (From the movie, "The Matrix")
Wake up, Neo...\
Yes, yes....Buddha. Have him sign over his land to me!! He shall
be
released
from his hypocritical guilt and be blessed with many years of
good
Karma!
While I rightfully enjoy the benefits of the land his ancestors
stole
from
my people.
Unless you were raised by a Native Amercan family, on Native
American
land, you are no more Native American Indian than the mongrel
pooch
next door.
My mother was a twist cone. Half Ojibwe, half, oh dear
God.......French.
Dear ole grandpapa deserted her at birth. Papa was a full blood
(Ojibwe).
Alcoholic and all. You know, pretty much the whole sob story.
I was raised in squalor on a northern Wisconsin Chippewa res during
pre-casino times. Call me 3/4 assimilated. I still enjoy hanging
out
in
the
sweat lodge with elders. Mama raised me Catholic. She did her best
with a
idiot savant like me. Papa was a 1st Lieutenant during WW2. Poured
his
heart
and soul into the military. Died at 53 from acute esophageal
variceal
hemorrhage while lying drunk on the kitchen floor. Was that ever a
fucking
mess.
Me? I joined up. Learned to run an Abrams and later turn a lathe. I
now
employ several white men who I tell what to do on a daily basis.
Not
bad
for
a dyslexic Chippewa with a mental health disorder and probable GWS.
Now where's my fucking deed?
Your deeds are written in the cosmic record
Like all so called do gooders, your good intentions always stop short
of
action. America's story since 1850 ......at least when "liberty and
justice
for all" gets applied to the 1st Americans. You're a phony, Mark.
Don't
feel
alone. So is every European who owns land in America and bitches about
how
the poor native American got treated. Well, when's the last time you
wrote
you're senator to address the injustice? Like I said, phony.
And what makes you think I'm White?
I'm a brown skin. Your whiteness is obvious. Duh!
White man's education doesn't make me White, Mr. Coconut.
Education aside, whiteness is obvious in even a pitch black room. Some day
I'll let you in on the secret. BTW, I prefer "Milky Way" The nuget is
good, but the carmel is always last to leave.
And Hillary being 1/32nd Jewish, doesn't make her a Jew, no
matter
how bad she wants votes in New York.
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18 Oct 2003 11:38:40 AM |
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Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<giq1pvog6nsrg7n8pu24bmfhuhtij34ch2@4ax.com>...
Thanks. You seem passionate about the distressing conditions that
exist in our world. I can empathize with your feelings.
At the same time, I do not condemn those who think the world is
'perfect'. Probably they simply look always on the positive side. I
read recently that the happiest people on earth are in Nigeria, where
most of the population suffers from poverty.
And if Nostradamus did get it right about a king of the East appearing
on the scene in 2003, it would coincide with a prophesy (yes, a
prophesy) from Osama Bin Laden. He said in 2001, that in 2003,
he would meet his end in 2003, in "the Belly of an Eagle".
I have bin Laden as the King of Terror but not as the King of the
East. In fact, the two are in natural opposition. The fundamentalist
nature of whatever religion is contrary to the prophesied views of the
guy from the Orient.
Signs of the Eastern King of France:
BIRTH:
On a Thursday
At night
During a cold winter
Day celebrated as holiday
Rising sign is one of the three water signs
Humble birth and obscure lineage
Signs in the sky
Birth in the eastern quarters of Asia "beyond Tartary" or "in the
quarters of Hind or Cina"
NAME:
Known by three names
Name given by three sisters after birth is "savage"
Surname is foreign to the French
Middle name means "ocean"
IMPORTANT DATES:
1999 -- 'Resuscitated' by 'King of Terror'
2003 -- He rises to power making clear N's prophecies
CHARACTERISTICS
A prophet
Very knowledgeable
Good speaker capable of both "ornate" and "wrathful" words
Handsome
In 30s or 40s when he ascends
Widely traveled
Served as a soldier
Of dusky hue (to a European)
Attentive to foreign women
ACTIONS
Reconstructs ancient blood line
Resurrects royal heritage
Takes that which was pledged to his ancestors, including claims to
thrones
Uses special ensignia
Causes wealth to be distributed
Delivers a great people from impositions
Frees people from voluntary slavery
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18 Oct 2003 11:15:25 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 01:36:23 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Nostradamus's prophecies may coincide with events now unfolding,
but not in the way most people think.
Can't quarrel with that, at least!
(huge snip, which may or may not be valid)
All empires deteriorate and eventually disintegrate.
And if Nostradamus did get it right about a king of the East appearing
on the scene in 2003, it would coincide with a prophesy (yes, a
prophesy) from Osama Bin Laden. He said in 2001, that in 2003,
he would meet his end in 2003, in "the Belly of an Eagle".
Trouble is, Nostradamus didn't say anything about a king of the East
appearing on the scene in 2003 -- so, um... er...
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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18 Oct 2003 12:04:37 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +0100, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 01:36:23 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Nostradamus's prophecies may coincide with events now unfolding,
but not in the way most people think.
Can't quarrel with that, at least!
(huge snip, which may or may not be valid)
All empires deteriorate and eventually disintegrate.
And if Nostradamus did get it right about a king of the East appearing
on the scene in 2003, it would coincide with a prophesy (yes, a
prophesy) from Osama Bin Laden. He said in 2001, that in 2003,
he would meet his end in 2003, in "the Belly of an Eagle".
Trouble is, Nostradamus didn't say anything about a king of the East
appearing on the scene in 2003 -- so, um... er...
Peter, you don't acknowledge that the Eastern King of France could be
an 'anagram' for the King o Eastern France, of King of the East
France. Since France has had many colonies, could any one of them be
be the 'Eastern France' or 'France of the East'?
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| User: "loftydragon" |
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19 Oct 2003 10:59:02 AM |
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Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<jhs2pv889clo4p4g2r75tv49rq08pv40bp@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +0100, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 01:36:23 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Peter, you don't acknowledge that the Eastern King of France could be
an 'anagram' for the King o Eastern France, of King of the East
France. Since France has had many colonies, could any one of them be
be the 'Eastern France' or 'France of the East'?
Nosty said himself that his prophecies were veiled and obscure. His
most obvious sources were the Bible and the Hermetic texts.
Most of his prophecies were centered on the 'end-times' the last
century or two before the new Golden Age began. N's real passion was
to reveal the nature of the Great Monarch who ushers in this new
period.
In a conversation with his student Chavigny, N. said:
CHAVIGNY: "This message of yours should mean all the world to him,
'born under shadows' as you say. Will he recognize it, see it as
himself?"
NOSTRADAMUS: "That is my hope," Nostradamus told him. "My purpose is
that he shall read it, and feel the ancient royal strength flow
through his sword arm. My hope is to give him confidence of victory,
of freedom for his people - our people."
On France:
C2:Q29
The Oriental will leave his seat,
To pass the Apennine mountains to see Gaul:
He will pass through the sky, the waters and the snow,
And everyone will be struck with his rod.
C5:Q54
From beyond the Black Sea and great Tartary,
There will be a King who will come to see Gaul,
He will pierce through 'Alania' and Armenia,
And within Byzantium will he leave his bloody rod.
C3:Q49
Gallic realm, you will be much changed:
To a foreign place is the empire transferred:
You will be set up amidst other customs and laws:
Rouen and Chartres will do much of the worst to you.
C4:Q54
Of the name which no Gallic King ever had
Never was there so fearful a thunderbolt,
Italy, Spain and the English trembling,
Very attentive to a foreign woman.
C1:Q76
The man will be called by a savage name
that three sisters will receive from destiny.
He will speak then to a great people in words and deeds,
more than any other man will have fame and renown
C9:Q33
Hercules King of Rome, of 'Annemark,'
Of Gaul, by three guides he is called,
Italy and the one of the holy territory to tremble,
First monarch renowned above all.
C10:Q16
Happy in the realm of France, happy in life,
Ignorant of blood, death, fury and plunder:
For a flattering name he will be envied,
A concealed King, too much faith in the kitchen.
His identity if first not known.
C5:Q3
The successor to the Duchy will come,
Very far beyond the Tuscan Sea:
A Gallic branch will hold Florence,
The nautical Frog in its gyron be agreement.
C7:Q20
Ambassadors of the Tuscan language
will cross the Alps and the sea in April and May.
The man of the calf will deliver an oration,
not coming to wipe out the French way of life.
C5:Q39
Issued from the true branch of the fleur-de-lys,
Placed and lodged as heir of Etruria:
His ancient blood woven by long hand,
He will cause the escutcheon of Florence to bloom.
C1:Q83
The strange race will divide the spoils,
Saturn in Mars his furious look:
Horrible strange to the Tuscans & Latins,
Greeks, who will wish to strike out of curiosity.
C10:Q38
Sprightly love lays the siege not far,
The garrisons will be at the barbarian saint:
The Orsini and 'Adria' will provide a guarantee for the Gauls,
For fear delivered by the army to the Grisons.
There will be changes though.
C4:Q93
A serpent seen near the royal bed,
It will be because of the dame of the night the dogs will not bark:
Then to be born in France a Prince so royal,
Come from heaven all the Princes will see him.
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19 Oct 2003 03:21:29 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:04:37 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Peter, you don't acknowledge that the Eastern King of France could be
an 'anagram' for the King o Eastern France, of King of the East
France. Since France has had many colonies, could any one of them be
be the 'Eastern France' or 'France of the East'?
Whose anagram? Nostradamus never used any such expression.
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
19 Oct 2003 03:29:23 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:21:29 +0100, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:04:37 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Peter, you don't acknowledge that the Eastern King of France could be
an 'anagram' for the King o Eastern France, of King of the East
France. Since France has had many colonies, could any one of them be
be the 'Eastern France' or 'France of the East'?
Whose anagram? Nostradamus never used any such expression.
My term, for whatever process he used to jumble meanings, to hide
his words in plain site.
Which country would be considered 'France of the East"?
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| User: "Peter Lemesurier" |
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
19 Oct 2003 05:30:31 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:29:23 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:21:29 +0100, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengalwipeyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:04:37 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Peter, you don't acknowledge that the Eastern King of France could be
an 'anagram' for the King o Eastern France, of King of the East
France. Since France has had many colonies, could any one of them be
be the 'Eastern France' or 'France of the East'?
Whose anagram? Nostradamus never used any such expression.
My term, for whatever process he used to jumble meanings, to hide
his words in plain site.
Jumble what meanings? How do you know that he jumbled them? Do you
just mean that they *look* jumbled to you? What evidence do you have
that he hid words in plain sight (sic)? What academically established
examples can you give?
How about just working out what he actually said first?
Which country would be considered 'France of the East"?
Why ask it, since he never used the term?
"Nostradamus means exactly what he says, except when he means what I
say he means."
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X E Gite-Prétendu
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Shadow over the earth |
18 Oct 2003 06:39:17 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 01:36:23 -0700, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
Nostradamus's prophecies may coincide with events now unfolding,
but not in the way most people think.
Most of his writings have been interpreted, misinterpreted and
misaligned to mean almost anything, just as the Bible has been
used to justify everything from the Native American Holocaust,
which killed 20 million people, in the name of 'saving' them,
to the NeoCons, who use the same excuse to attack and
occupy it, (just as the Soviets did in Afghanistan --- to "liberate")
The power elite in Washington, D.C. (as always, regardless of
Party affiliation) are driven by sillent puppet masters, who benefit
directly from the business of war. The oldest profession in the world.
That powerful elite is revealing a growth in its sinister agenda
of force and violence.
What kind of people are capable of doing this, of working all
their days planning 'shock and awe' programs, planning new
weapons (like the US Army bio-weapons labs, that just recreated
the Spanish Flu virus as a potential weapon). What kinds of
'Good Nazi's' can work diligently to plan carpet bombing
campaigns on major cities, simply for a political (and business)
agenda, then blame the victims?
This happened when the Native Americans were massacred, when
their population destroyed, until only 10% of its original population
remained.
After all the excuses were made, wasn't the genocide intended simply
to steal their land? Once the gulit settled in, did anyone redraw the
maps?
After all the excuses, the US is doing the same in Iraq.
Secure the land for future lucrative contracts, and to
keep the price of oil below target levels.
What kind of men can drop cluster bombs on crowded
neighborhoods, and go home to their kids and hug them,
knowing they've left hundreds of dead children behind,
children already clinging to the edge of existence from
poverty.
The ONLY reason we let THEM do this, and because we
to blame, not Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,
Pearle, Rice and Powell. We are the ones who thrust the
mantle of killer on their shoulders. They sating our blood lust,
our hatred, our ignorance and filling some of the emptiness
most Americans have as human beings. We gave them the
thumbs up, and they were only too happy to please. We
hired these professional murderers to do our dirty work, and we
cheered them on.
For most people In the United States, there is no longer any
real meaning to their existence, other than the narrowest
self-interest. When September 11th, 2001 happened, it was
like cold rinse in an otherwise lukewarm, comatose shower of
materialism, selfishness and greed. Americans lack a larger
signficance. They are mere shells of human beings, going
through the motions, pretending they are righteous, pretending they
are moral and pretending they are honest, when they are none of
these. They lie and pretend, to cover up this all too painful fact.
And their popular media provides all the materials they need
to maintain that lie.
When September 11th happened Americans sensed the
party was over, that the joyride of material abundance
and moral oblivion they'd become accustomed to were threatened
by a force which virtually none can understand. Because they
cannot understand, have limited knowledge and intellience,
they turn to the fast-food version of "information", to the
giant corporative, agenda-laced mass media, which then serves them
their fast, greasy, chemical laden, bacteria ridden so-called news.
They spoon feed the Americans little bits of sounds and images,
always heavily censored in advance, they spoon feed them like
children, sometimes with a littl truth, sometimes with news, but
always in small bites, and always preprocessed.
The shock of seeing the Saudi Arabian Flying Circus come
to town (even though their President's family had longtime business
dealings with the circus master), and the circus was bought and paid
for by America's "friends", it didn't seem to make any
difference. America was too busy with its bloodlust, it's fangs in the
neck of the "enemy du jure" to bother to look at anything as
disruptive as "the facts."
America collectively acts like a psychotic, retarded child with an
attention disorder. It's first impulse is to hold its ears shut, and
then go kill someone. Many thousands of someones, including
thousands of Asian women and children, guilty of the heinous crime of
existing and being poor.
Americans know their country has sold their soul to the Devil, some
have sold their sole to the Devil many times. They knew this
at a time when they enslaved the Black man, but lied to themselves,
justified their lies. They knew it when they massacred the Red man,
by the many millions. They knew it when they raped and pillaged
Hawaii from its native inhabitants. They know it now. They
justify it, and justify their lies, but they know it and they accept
it, because the puppet masters are giving them what they want.
Yes, the party is over.It's easy for the psychotic, angry child to
kill, but like any self-indulgent child, America will take no
responsibility for its actions. It will continue to blame the poor,
the disenfranchised, the victims of the wars and despots American
ha sthrust on them.
America is on the Empire spiral, and all empires deteriorate and
eventually disintigrate.
All empires deteriorate and eventually disintegrate.
And if Nostradamus did get it right about a king of the East appearing
on the scene in 2003, it would coincide with a prophesy (yes, a
prophesy) from Osama Bin Laden. He said in 2001, that in 2003,
he would meet his end in 2003, in "the Belly of an Eagle".
If he does, then he will have fulfilled his own prophesy. Depending on
what he means by his cryptic message, it may fulfill others. There are
not many months left to find out.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will see itself as conqueror
of the world, above the law, when in reality it is no more than a
rampaging, arrogant animal, with a hollow core where a soul should
be.
America acts as a beast, while it's blissfully ignorant citizens
continue to look the other way, and enjoy thier material comforts, in
their pitifully narrow and ignorant lives.
Until America is brought to its knees, it will continue to rampage
across the planet. Until it is humbled completely, it will never
understand that "Terrorism" is a no more than a label for the
harvest of the unrest it has sown into the ground. And it is only one
symptom of a world that has been plowed with too much violence, to
benefit a few.
"All I want is some truth"
John Lennon, prior to his being sanctioned, by newly-elected Vice
President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.
Great post. Now if we can only teach the dumb redneck inbred American
scum to read it, if they can,maybe some of them will wake up and get
their heads out of their mothers ***** and do something about their
power hungry politicians.
"life is like a mushroom, they feed you ***** and keep you in the dark"
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