"Woodswun" <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote in message

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On Tue, 26 Jun2007 15:04:40 -0700, Docrodile wrote:

"Woodswun" <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jun2007 05:13:50 -0700, WH wrote:

On 26 Juni, 07:00, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:

Prophecy Watch - Signs in the Stars
Contact: Greg Messina,516-810-3344

MEDIA ADVISORY, June 25 /Christian Newswire/ -- It seems we have
been
brought to a new revelation regarding the end times. The world has
welcomed the UFO (unidentified flying object) and alien phenomenon
for
many years now. The latest Roper Poll shows more than half (56
percent) of
the American public believing UFOs are real and not imaginary.
Numerous
sightings have been reported and people claiming to have had
close-encounters with so-called "alien beings". Well, now there is a
different perspective on the UFO phenomenon and this one is from a
Biblical standpoint. Mr. Richard Stout of Long Island, New York
claims
he
has a spiritual gift from the Holy Spirit that guided him into
understanding the answer to this strange phenomenon.

By breaking down certain key words in the Holy Bible and
cross-referencing
them with the Ethiopian Book of Enoch he has uncovered the very
coincidental similarities between certain abduction cases and
sighting
reports that are linked to eyewitness accounts. A website has been
developed to help those who have experienced such accounts and to
help
create support groups for understanding the entire phenomenon is a
demonic
one and that Jesus is the answer in solving the problem. Mr. Stout
is
a
former UFOlogist and "experiencer" and has collaborated with Brian
Levens
(who goes under the pen name Byron Lebeau on website) in writing
essays on
the subject.

Using Greek and Hebrew dictionaries as a reference to the key words
found
in Scripture, Mr. Stout has undergone many months of writing and
prayer to
help get the word out. "I am only being used as an instrument." says
Richard, ".This information must get out to the public as it is
crucial
people understand these so-called UFOs are in fact real and will be
used
as part of God's judgments on man and we are that close to many
signs
and
wonders." It looks as if we aren't alone after all, only these
"aliens"
are fallen angels masquerading as extraterrestrials from another
planet!

The website address is:http://www.RevelationVII.com

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/853593482.html

Well, of course, the UFOnauts are fallen angels masquerading as ETs.
I'm a
fallen angel masquerading as a ufologist. And Christians are
warmongers,
liars, haters, hypocrites, racists, and abysmally stupid delusional
folks
masquerading as caring, Godly, peaceful, enlightened people. Whether
they're also fallen angels, is subject to much debate among us
winged
demons.

Doc :))~

Yeah, and I love the first bit that goes like this:

"The world has welcomed the UFO (unidentified flying object) and
alien
phenomenon for many years now. The latest Roper Poll shows more than
half (56 percent) of the American public believing UFOs are real and
not imaginary."

56% of yanks somehow represent "the world". Must be another one of
those yanks who don't know that there actually is a "world" outside
of
America and it's not just a word.

WH

Yup, it's an idiot, all right. The domain is officially owned by the
company through whom the registration was made, not the person putting
all
the stuff on the site. Real genius move, there.

Not to mention that the person's area code was for Long Island, and we
all
know how living in suburbia rots your brain. ;-)

Woods

To a long-time ufologist, the assertion that demonological deception
constitutes the whole of the UFO phenomenon, and that is a 'new
revelation,' is patently time-worn and false, respectively.

I'd say that it would be far more likely that UFOs would be angels of
the
unfallen variety. Note that Ezekiel saw the wheel, Jacob wrestled
(physically wrestled!) with an angel, and the 2 angels that visited Lot
blinded the crowds with a bright light. Real physical beings, advanced
technology. No mention of any of Satan's minions doing anything cool or
advanced in the Bible.

Nothing new at all -- I've been hearing the fallen-angel UFO theory
since the 60s. Explaining a mystery with an intangible is ludricous.
"Hey, we know what those unexplained UFOs are -- they're Satan's
demons~!" heeheeheehee....and where is the proof for the existence of
demons?

It's a matter of belief. Gee...mystery solved !!! Doc :))~

;-)

Woods

Well, it's the ol' "mirrored argument" -- are the demons
extraterrrestrials misidentified, or are the extraterrestrials demons
misnamed?

Reports of unusual aerial "vehicles" are sprinkled throughout human
history, and contact with humanoid beings from the sky (such as the
inexplicable beings that visited the Dogon tribe) sporadically occur.

If we assume that at least some of these sightings, or encounters, are NOT
hallucinatory, solely mythical, or unusual natural phenomena, then the
argument for the existence of another intelligence is plausible...whether
from another dimension or another planet in our dimension.

Yet, all this belief in ETs simply distills down to speculation based on
ancient and modern reports of unexplained aerial objects and contacts with
beings from the sky -- and not from a tangible, proved physicality that
has been scientifically verified by standard investigative methodology.
All preternatural, phantasmagorical phenomena exist in "reality" only as
eyewitness accounts, with some accompanying photographic and other
circumstantial physical evidence. Yet even the photographs, radar, and
occasional odd ground traces only tell us, at best, something unexplained
occurred and don't represent proof of ET existence ... or demons or
angels, either.

Our strong beliefs in supernatural and extraterrestrial intelligences
coexisting with our species aren't supported by the actual scientific
evidence -- and our great desire to want to not be alone in the universe
(either living in this plane of existence or some ethereal other) is a
well observed psychological/sociological behavioural trait. Freud and Jung
and Nitzche talked much about it. Hallucinations have obviously been
fairly common, such as vivid waking dreams. I've had powerful
hallucinations in a waking dream state that seemed to be hard reality at
that moment, as fantastical as the creatures appeared to be. The rational
mind struggled to make 'sense' of it, as the irrational dreamy part of the
brain entertained it.

I think we need to be cautious how we interpret the available evidence,
historical and current. If demons and angels exist as some believe, or ETs
are co-inhabiting the planet (and have been for millenia), then we are
faced with trying to pragmatically accommodate their existence as best we
can...and then going on with our conventional daily lives as before,
assuming these creatures continue to interact with us as they've been
doing for so long. Nothing much will change if we had the proof we seek.
It's unlikely they'll be changing our long cyclical behaviour overnight,
moving us into some state of blissful nirvana. At best, we'll feel no
longer alone as a species.

As Kimmy believes an ethereal being of some sort guides his life,
converses with him, there are so many others who report various beings
from other planets or realms interacting with them. And there always have
been. Yet, humanity staggers on in its hard-nosed annoying physical world
of so many sundry "human ailments" such as toothaches and sleepless nights
of fitful worry, and be damned to all the supposed "advanced" supernatural
beings and their superior knowledge. None have saved our dying
civilizations from oblivion, or altered our basic misbehavior
permanently...there's been no lasting overall improvement noted in us
caused by their coexistence. So, if they're really here, demon or ET,
angel or leprechaun, we're basically still facing the same reality as
humans as we've always had to struggle with.

Doc

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:04:40 -0700, Docrodile wrote:

"Woodswun" <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:13:50 -0700, WH wrote:

On 26 Juni, 07:00, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:

Prophecy Watch - Signs in the Stars
Contact: Greg Messina, 516-810-3344

MEDIA ADVISORY, June 25 /Christian Newswire/ -- It seems we have

been

brought to a new revelation regarding the end times. The world has
welcomed the UFO (unidentified flying object) and alien phenomenon

for

many years now. The latest Roper Poll shows more than half (56
percent) of
the American public believing UFOs are real and not imaginary.
Numerous
sightings have been reported and people claiming to have had
close-encounters with so-called "alien beings". Well, now there is a
different perspective on the UFO phenomenon and this one is from a
Biblical standpoint. Mr. Richard Stout of Long Island, New York

claims

he
has a spiritual gift from the Holy Spirit that guided him into
understanding the answer to this strange phenomenon.

By breaking down certain key words in the Holy Bible and
cross-referencing
them with the Ethiopian Book of Enoch he has uncovered the very
coincidental similarities between certain abduction cases and

sighting

reports that are linked to eyewitness accounts. A website has been
developed to help those who have experienced such accounts and to

help

create support groups for understanding the entire phenomenon is a
demonic
one and that Jesus is the answer in solving the problem. Mr. Stout

is

a
former UFOlogist and "experiencer" and has collaborated with Brian
Levens
(who goes under the pen name Byron Lebeau on website) in writing
essays on
the subject.

Using Greek and Hebrew dictionaries as a reference to the key words
found
in Scripture, Mr. Stout has undergone many months of writing and
prayer to
help get the word out. "I am only being used as an instrument." says
Richard, ".This information must get out to the public as it is
crucial
people understand these so-called UFOs are in fact real and will be
used
as part of God's judgments on man and we are that close to many

signs

and
wonders." It looks as if we aren't alone after all, only these
"aliens"
are fallen angels masquerading as extraterrestrials from another
planet!

The website address is:http://www.RevelationVII.com

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/853593482.html

Well, of course, the UFOnauts are fallen angels masquerading as ETs.
I'm a
fallen angel masquerading as a ufologist. And Christians are
warmongers,
liars, haters, hypocrites, racists, and abysmally stupid delusional
folks
masquerading as caring, Godly, peaceful, enlightened people. Whether
they're also fallen angels, is subject to much debate among us

winged

demons.

Doc :))~

Yeah, and I love the first bit that goes like this:

"The world has welcomed the UFO (unidentified flying object) and

alien

phenomenon for many years now. The latest Roper Poll shows more than
half (56 percent) of the American public believing UFOs are real and
not imaginary."

56% of yanks somehow represent "the world". Must be another one of
those yanks who don't know that there actually is a "world" outside

of

America and it's not just a word.

WH

Yup, it's an idiot, all right. The domain is officially owned by the
company through whom the registration was made, not the person putting
all
the stuff on the site. Real genius move, there.

Not to mention that the person's area code was for Long Island, and we
all
know how living in suburbia rots your brain. ;-)

Woods

To a long-time ufologist, the assertion that demonological deception
constitutes the whole of the UFO phenomenon, and that is a 'new
revelation,' is patently time-worn and false, respectively.

I'd say that it would be far more likely that UFOs would be angels of

the

unfallen variety. Note that Ezekiel saw the wheel, Jacob wrestled
(physically wrestled!) with an angel, and the 2 angels that visited Lot
blinded the crowds with a bright light. Real physical beings, advanced
technology. No mention of any of Satan's minions doing anything cool or
advanced in the Bible.

What about the 2 strangers, angels, who visited Sodom and blinded a
crowd when they were attacked ? This sort of 'magic' would not be
difficult for advanced humans.

Here is another interesting passage from Genesis indicating the
physical presence of god, possibly advanced humans, mingling with
the natives.

..

When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were
born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were
beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the LORD said,
"My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days
will be a hundred and twenty years."

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when
the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them.
They were the heroes of old, men of renown.