I those here who glorify the Invasion of Iraq
are so fanatical and "patriotic", why aren't
each of you going down to the local recruiting
centers to sign up to join the Army or Marine
Corps? They are desperately trying to meet
their quotas. I can offer suggestion of what to
say when you get there, that will guarantee you
get into combat, to put your money where your
mouth is? Go ahead. Prove me wrong. Sign up.
Otherwise, shut up.
Same applies to the NeoCons. If they are so
passionate about 'Democracy in Iraq, why haven't
one of them got a son, daughter, neice, nephew,
grand-son or grand-dauther in the miliary, let
alone, in Iraq? What does that tell you?
If the root of Terrorism is the Islamic
fanatics, why is religious fanaticism rampant
in the US, and growing? The kind of fanaticism
that is inherently Racist and pro-death? Isn't
that trying to put fire out with gasoline?
Why so much morbid fascination with the
Millenial Pro-Israel fanatics? Is it in
America's best interest, to ignite WWIII?
Who is trying to gain what here?
If the dependence on foreign oil puts the
US so much at risk, why is the US doing all
that it can to increase depedence on foreign
oil, and virutally nothing to expand alternative
energy production? Is it possibly because
the Bush family, NeoCons in general and the
US Oil Companies WANT to keep the US
dependent on foreign oil, scraping profits
off the top of every barrel? Could it be
because Big Oil and the NeoCons haven't
invested a cent in alternative energy,
though they keep expanding the US's
presence in the Mid-East?
Why did the US have to spend $300 Billion
just to prove what was already proven by
the UN, that Iraq had no WMD? Or was the
$300 Billion spent in Iraq, the price to
pull Saddam out of the Spider Hole? Well,
that was a year ago, and he's not in the
Spider Hole now. Or was the $300 Billion
spent to draft a "Constitution", that was
a template provided by the UN as a template.
Could it be, that the Iraqis may rip it apart
in a year, not worth the paper it was written
on?
Why is it, that the Bush Family is so close to
the Bin Laden family? Very close - to the tune
of $800 million in business profits to Bush Sr.
over the past 30 years. How often does that
little fact not get mentioned on Fox News
very often, or ever?
Or, the fact the the CIA put Osama Bin Laden
in business in the 1980's - trained him, built
his network. Don't hear that mentioned on Fox
News either. Or the fact that the Saudis
own Bush Sr., lock stock and barrel. Seems
to be selective coverage, to put it generously.
Or, the fact that Army Intelligence reports,
recently de-classified, are in direct conflict
to testimony of the FBI (the single most
important source) during the 9-11 Committee
Hearings.
So who was lieing? The FBI, or the Army?
And why has the Bush Administration and
the NeoCons been purging the CIA of so
many people and replacing them with yes-men
and fellow fanatics? What are they so afraid
of?
Why are they so keen on killing Judge Patrick
Fitzgerald? Why are so many flag officers
fed up? Is it possibly because they aren't
corrupt or not willing to ***** themselves?
Is it possibly because they are under the
commmand of people that have never been in
combat, most of whom have never worn the
uniform. Bush doesn't count. He wore the
uniform with disgrace, bouncing from one
country club Reserve Center to another during
the Vietnam War, missing his drill-datess
half the time. Technically that's Desertion,
but conveniently all the records were "Lost".
The President is supposed to be the moral
compass of his country, and this guy
not only dodged going to Vietnam, he lied
about what little he did do while in uniform,
to cover up his shame. Same thing with
Rumsfeld, who got 7 deferrments, rather than
face the trauma of serving his country
during the time of its greatest need.
They're both scumbags. Rumsfeld is the one
that provided $8 billion in WMD to Iraq in
1988.
The Neoons, being mostly dual-Israel/US
citizens at least as an excuse can say there
weren't citizens of the US at the time, and
weren't able to serve.
The combat Vets in Iraq know these things,
and even the densest of them can put it
all together eventually. That's one reason
the NeoCons are doomed.
They can't kill Americans fast enough in
Iraq to keep the truth from coming home.
There will eventually be thousands of
Cindy Sheehan's,carrying signs, showing
pictures of their dead sons. They'll walk
into Washington, quietly, while the NeoCons
pull the shades down, and leave from their
underground parking garages, and take sides
streets out of the area, in fear of
encountering the silent women standig in the
streets with those signs.
It's possible that Cindy Sheehan, a Suburban
mother, who lost her son in Iraq in combat,
started a revolution that day she decided to
camp out next to that road leading to the
Crawford Ranch in Texas.
It began like this, when some uniformed men in
wheel chairs and canes, descended on Washington,
shattered men, returning from Vietnam. They
carried signs that said "End The War". At first
there were only a handful, and they were
attacked by fanatics, beaten, arrested.
And then they returned, and there were hundreds
with them this time. And they were arrested.
And then came thousands with them as
supporters.
This went on, until it became obvious that
the War was over. Not militarily, but
politically. The speaches by the President
didn't convince anyone any more. The public
had turned. The Pentagon papers, leaked to
the Press in 1971, that proved that the "Gulf
of Tonkin Incident," an attack by North Vietnam
on a US ship, that never happened, ripped the
whole thing open.
The documents were printed in the New York
Times for all to read, and the lie was there for
all to see. The US public became enraged, becuase
by that time, tens of thousands of men had already
died - for nothing, for a lie.
And so it begins. One grieving mother, standing
in a ditch under the intense Texas sun, silent,
while a dozen black Secret Service SUV's race
by her, blaring their horns the whole way,
trying to intimidate her. And still she smiles,
unshaken by the weak attempt to frighten her.
In her smile is more power and courage than Bush
could ever imagine, or comprehend.
As he told his driver to pick up speed while
passing, Bush probably sat behind his limosine's
heavily-tinted windows, smirking, making snide,
insulting remarks, as he reached for another
martini from the bar. All the time, not realizing
that the sunburned woman, standing there patiently
in that ditch, would be the to start a Revolution,
to bring the President down.
The power of Non-Violence is one of the most
powerful forces known to bring down an Evil
Empire.
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| User: "" |
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16 Aug 2005 05:23:37 PM |
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Evil as it is or is not, what repalces it sure ain't a better option!
LB
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| User: "jay j bee" |
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17 Aug 2005 06:33:59 PM |
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wrote:
Evil as it is or is not, what repalces it sure ain't a better option!
LB
What should replace it is YOU!
What are you standing/sitting/lying there?
Take the folk around you, the ones that equal you in the choice of
habitation for example, and CARE.
JayJBee
"Make them care for you too."
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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16 Aug 2005 03:18:53 PM |
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Four cell wrote;-
"I those here who glorify the Invasion of Iraq are so fanatical and
"patriotic............"
Interesting. Is that from your mind, or from an article Four Cell?
No matter either way, many questions are asked that some would deem as
being, 'awkward'.
I rather liked the post.
Werewolfy
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| User: "" |
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17 Aug 2005 11:21:23 AM |
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On 16 Aug 2005 10:22:39 -0700, "FourCell" <fourcell@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I those here who glorify the Invasion of Iraq
are so fanatical and "patriotic", why aren't
each of you going down to the local recruiting
centers to sign up to join the Army or Marine
Corps? They are desperately trying to meet
their quotas. I can offer suggestion of what to
say when you get there, that will guarantee you
get into combat, to put your money where your
mouth is? Go ahead. Prove me wrong. Sign up.
Otherwise, shut up.
Same applies to the NeoCons. If they are so
passionate about 'Democracy in Iraq, why haven't
one of them got a son, daughter, neice, nephew,
grand-son or grand-dauther in the miliary, let
alone, in Iraq? What does that tell you?
If the root of Terrorism is the Islamic
fanatics, why is religious fanaticism rampant
in the US, and growing? The kind of fanaticism
that is inherently Racist and pro-death? Isn't
that trying to put fire out with gasoline?
Why so much morbid fascination with the
Millenial Pro-Israel fanatics? Is it in
America's best interest, to ignite WWIII?
Who is trying to gain what here?
If the dependence on foreign oil puts the
US so much at risk, why is the US doing all
that it can to increase depedence on foreign
oil, and virutally nothing to expand alternative
energy production? Is it possibly because
the Bush family, NeoCons in general and the
US Oil Companies WANT to keep the US
dependent on foreign oil, scraping profits
off the top of every barrel? Could it be
because Big Oil and the NeoCons haven't
invested a cent in alternative energy,
though they keep expanding the US's
presence in the Mid-East?
Why did the US have to spend $300 Billion
just to prove what was already proven by
the UN, that Iraq had no WMD? Or was the
$300 Billion spent in Iraq, the price to
pull Saddam out of the Spider Hole? Well,
that was a year ago, and he's not in the
Spider Hole now. Or was the $300 Billion
spent to draft a "Constitution", that was
a template provided by the UN as a template.
Could it be, that the Iraqis may rip it apart
in a year, not worth the paper it was written
on?
Why is it, that the Bush Family is so close to
the Bin Laden family? Very close - to the tune
of $800 million in business profits to Bush Sr.
over the past 30 years. How often does that
little fact not get mentioned on Fox News
very often, or ever?
Or, the fact the the CIA put Osama Bin Laden
in business in the 1980's - trained him, built
his network. Don't hear that mentioned on Fox
News either. Or the fact that the Saudis
own Bush Sr., lock stock and barrel. Seems
to be selective coverage, to put it generously.
Or, the fact that Army Intelligence reports,
recently de-classified, are in direct conflict
to testimony of the FBI (the single most
important source) during the 9-11 Committee
Hearings.
So who was lieing? The FBI, or the Army?
And why has the Bush Administration and
the NeoCons been purging the CIA of so
many people and replacing them with yes-men
and fellow fanatics? What are they so afraid
of?
Why are they so keen on killing Judge Patrick
Fitzgerald? Why are so many flag officers
fed up? Is it possibly because they aren't
corrupt or not willing to ***** themselves?
Is it possibly because they are under the
commmand of people that have never been in
combat, most of whom have never worn the
uniform. Bush doesn't count. He wore the
uniform with disgrace, bouncing from one
country club Reserve Center to another during
the Vietnam War, missing his drill-datess
half the time. Technically that's Desertion,
but conveniently all the records were "Lost".
The President is supposed to be the moral
compass of his country, and this guy
not only dodged going to Vietnam, he lied
about what little he did do while in uniform,
to cover up his shame. Same thing with
Rumsfeld, who got 7 deferrments, rather than
face the trauma of serving his country
during the time of its greatest need.
They're both scumbags. Rumsfeld is the one
that provided $8 billion in WMD to Iraq in
1988.
The Neoons, being mostly dual-Israel/US
citizens at least as an excuse can say there
weren't citizens of the US at the time, and
weren't able to serve.
The combat Vets in Iraq know these things,
and even the densest of them can put it
all together eventually. That's one reason
the NeoCons are doomed.
They can't kill Americans fast enough in
Iraq to keep the truth from coming home.
There will eventually be thousands of
Cindy Sheehan's,carrying signs, showing
pictures of their dead sons. They'll walk
into Washington, quietly, while the NeoCons
pull the shades down, and leave from their
underground parking garages, and take sides
streets out of the area, in fear of
encountering the silent women standig in the
streets with those signs.
It's possible that Cindy Sheehan, a Suburban
mother, who lost her son in Iraq in combat,
started a revolution that day she decided to
camp out next to that road leading to the
Crawford Ranch in Texas.
It began like this, when some uniformed men in
wheel chairs and canes, descended on Washington,
shattered men, returning from Vietnam. They
carried signs that said "End The War". At first
there were only a handful, and they were
attacked by fanatics, beaten, arrested.
And then they returned, and there were hundreds
with them this time. And they were arrested.
And then came thousands with them as
supporters.
This went on, until it became obvious that
the War was over. Not militarily, but
politically. The speaches by the President
didn't convince anyone any more. The public
had turned. The Pentagon papers, leaked to
the Press in 1971, that proved that the "Gulf
of Tonkin Incident," an attack by North Vietnam
on a US ship, that never happened, ripped the
whole thing open.
The documents were printed in the New York
Times for all to read, and the lie was there for
all to see. The US public became enraged, becuase
by that time, tens of thousands of men had already
died - for nothing, for a lie.
And so it begins. One grieving mother, standing
in a ditch under the intense Texas sun, silent,
while a dozen black Secret Service SUV's race
by her, blaring their horns the whole way,
trying to intimidate her. And still she smiles,
unshaken by the weak attempt to frighten her.
In her smile is more power and courage than Bush
could ever imagine, or comprehend.
As he told his driver to pick up speed while
passing, Bush probably sat behind his limosine's
heavily-tinted windows, smirking, making snide,
insulting remarks, as he reached for another
martini from the bar. All the time, not realizing
that the sunburned woman, standing there patiently
in that ditch, would be the to start a Revolution,
to bring the President down.
The power of Non-Violence is one of the most
powerful forces known to bring down an Evil
Empire.
Excellent post!!! That kind of wraps it up in a nutshell. Keep up the
fight!!!
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| User: "FourCell" |
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17 Aug 2005 10:16:50 AM |
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As long as I can here in Russia, awaiting the Cold Wind From
the East. H5N1 is now all around here - many illages cordoned
off. All poultry is being slaughtered,while birds keep
migrating West,towards Europe. They will be in Southern Europe
within 3 weeks.
Th NeoCons are thugs, thieves, and serial killers. They will
reap the whirlwind. Hitler said his Reich would last a thousand
years. It lasted 12. The NeoCons got together in 1997 to plan
the 'New American Century'. Less ambitious than Hitler's,
but their Reich will not last even that long.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple questions |
18 Aug 2005 05:52:14 AM |
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The reference for such a prediction?
LB
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| User: "FourCell" |
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18 Aug 2005 07:37:31 AM |
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Which one?
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| User: "tw" |
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18 Aug 2005 07:41:33 AM |
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"FourCell" <fourcell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124368651.164490.8840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Which one?
Any of them, dipshit. Not that we can expect any answers from you once your
***** is called, but let's see this time..
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| User: "FourCell" |
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19 Aug 2005 06:32:26 AM |
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I wasn't talking to you.
But I will have the chance to explain. I got a call
today from a journalist who says she's seen my
posts here and is interested in getting together
tonight over dinner to discuss my 'views'.
Who knows, you might even see FourCell mentioned
in the mainstream, though I doubt the mainstream
is ready for what I'd have to say.
Really piqued my interest. We'll see what happens.
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