As many of you may already be aware, I am an
accomplished medium who has often channeled
none other than Nostradamus himself.
Though unpaid, my work in the spiritual realm is
both productive and rewarding. Every time I
think of all the celebrities, CEOs, community
leaders & national politicians that I've been able
to guide towards success through the use of my
gifts, I can't help but feel a sense of pride of such
an extant that I dare call it "sinful."
I know we all should be humbled by a power greater
than ourselves, and in my case doubly so, as
through my gifts I am in touch with that power on
a daily basis. And I assure you, as unvirtuous as
my expressed pride might seem, that despite my
powers I remain as human as the rest of you, with all
those same human faults & human frailties that
plague the rest of mankind. I would be less virtuous,
not more so, should I lie or otherwise conceal the
pride I feel towards my undeserved role in shaping
world events.
Now, as I said, I do not get paid for my work. However,
I do accept donations from those seeking guidance.
And, yes, more often than a perfect world would allow,
I am forced by circumstances to defer to those who
make a donation over those who do not. But I am not
in it for the money, and I will prove this to all of you
now.
What do you want to know? What secrets would you
like revealed?
The world is open to you, the sky your limit with but
one caveat: Ask me a question to gain information
and nothing else.
If, for example, you asked me tomorrow's Lotto
number I would ignore you. For the information itself
is not an end, but a means toward an end, with that
end being great wealth.
The same applies to stocks, commodities or any other
investment item. It can even apply towards seemingly
innocuous facts, like the fate of an ancient ancestor.
Your motives define it's validity.
Any question asked out of curiousity, or to satisfy an
entirely personal desire, is entirely valid. This is because
the information itself is the goal. If, on the other hand,
you are looking for a little insight so that you might
write the next Dan Brown style blockbuster novel, the
information is not the goal but a means towards an
end. It would be invalid.
This is important. There is a real danger here. If you
ask a question when in fact it is not the answer you
seek, but merely intend to use the answer to secure
some other goal, you risk disater. For, although I
can gaurantee you that all responses I present will be
technically true & technically accurate, the spirits will
respond to impure questions with ambiguity, often
times even to the point of being deliberately misleading.
I myself do not see the future. I myself do not know
any great secrets, or have the power to peer into the
hearts of men. I channel the spirits, and the spirit of
Nostradamus in particular, and I report back what they
have revealed to me. Unless it is something obvious,
like a lottery number, I may not recognize your question
as invalid, I may not know to not ask it. In short, I
may not be able to protect you from the potential
ruin of a "technically" true & accurate answer that
is deliberately vague and likely booby trapped with
misleading language that will steer you towards ruin.
Enlightment is yours for the asking! Go on, Skeptics,
you are hereby challenged to experience the solace
that only those of us exposed to the truth and in
touch with a power greater than ourselves have known.
Ask away! You have nothing to lose but your own skepticism.
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13 Aug 2006 06:24:03 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
george wrote:
I want him to demonstrate that he can do what he
claims. So far he doesn't want to apply for the
$1,000,000 challenge.
I can't "Prove" anything to people who simply refuse to
see the truth. Watch. I'll demonstrate. I'll show an
idiot that he's an idiot, yet he will impose blindness on
himself, refusing to see the obvious:
Noted that you are avoiding the JREF challenge and using the same
excuses as all the others who have avoided the Challenge
How do I "Prove" that I am channeling Nostradamus?
Easy.
Answer a number of questions about the normal day to day household that
ol' Nostro would have known in his normal writing style and language.
Prices and matters medical then current in the language current at the
time.
Post in the language that ol' Nostro would have used with liguistic
scholars checking the accuracy of the writing style.
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| User: "" |
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14 Aug 2006 05:14:09 AM |
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george wrote:
Noted that you are avoiding the JREF challenge and using
the same excuses as all the others who have avoided the
Challenge
Thank you for proving my point, idiot.
How do I "Prove" that I am channeling Nostradamus?
Easy.
Answer a number of questions about the normal day to day
household that ol' Nostro would have known in his normal
writing style and language.
So I can't be in contact with the supernatural unless that
contact is EXACTLY the same as contact between mortals,
AND I learn archaic French? Well it doesn't work that way,
and I never claimed that it does.
You're a frigging idiot. No, wait. I'm serious.
Prices and matters medical then current in the language
current at the time.
And this stuff is ONLY available to James Randi, not to mention
we are to take historical accounts/records as the gospel truth?
Please.
History isn't like the Flintstones, my good idiot. Life in the
days of Nostradamus wasn't "Just like ours" with the exception
that they used their feet to run their cars. They lived differently,
they ate differently, they saw things differently and this all ads
up to many concepts, some of which don't have any similar
concepts in modern society.
For an example (though it'll be wasted on the likes of you) to
the concept of "Elan."
I couldn't translate it into English with just one word. At least
not while retaining/capturing anything more than an over
simplified sense of it's meaning. Each word is a concept.
Each concept requires either a corresponding concept in my
culture & language (American, English) or in turn might
necessitate several other concepts... any/all which which might
not translate exactly. And then there's my own perspective to
deal with.
Nostradamus explaining the past is actually FAR trickier than
Nostradamus explaining the present or the future. Why?
Because I have a much better sense of today, and even the
future, then I do of medeival France. The "Getting the alien
concepts from a different time, place & culture" thing is all
on him, and he is much better at it then I am. After all, he is
a spirit. He isn't limited by a corporeal existance.
Post in the language that ol' Nostro would have used with
liguistic scholars checking the accuracy of the writing
style.
My communications with Nostradamus aren't in any
language, which I have stated in this thread and elsehwere.
I am not having conversations with a dead guy in my
living room.
If you ever want to try being a skeptic, instead of an idiot,
you might think about taking a moment to find out what
people are claiming before you devise a test.
Because there was a test here already. Two, in fact. And
you failed both.
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14 Aug 2006 04:34:59 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
george wrote:
I want him to demonstrate that he can do what he
claims. So far he doesn't want to apply for the
$1,000,000 challenge.
I can't "Prove" anything to people who simply refuse to
see the truth. Watch. I'll demonstrate. I'll show an
idiot that he's an idiot, yet he will impose blindness on
himself, refusing to see the obvious:
The question was how could some-one claiming to be in contact with
Nostradamus be tested !
I gave a few points upon which such a test would be carried out (if
agreed upon)..
My personal opinion is that there is no such possibility that such a
thing as 'channeling' can occur.
To put it as simply as I can
It seems that you believe that it is possible so why don't you apply
for the JREF Challenge ?
Go ahead and prove me wrong.....
Get the form here,(http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html) fill
it in and send it off to JREF....
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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14 Aug 2006 05:09:18 PM |
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In News 1155591298.966205.122230@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, george at
gblack@hnpl.net, typed this:
JTEM wrote:
george wrote:
I want him to demonstrate that he can do what he
claims. So far he doesn't want to apply for the
$1,000,000 challenge.
I can't "Prove" anything to people who simply refuse to
see the truth. Watch. I'll demonstrate. I'll show an
idiot that he's an idiot, yet he will impose blindness on
himself, refusing to see the obvious:
The question was how could some-one claiming to be in contact with
Nostradamus be tested !
Pump them full of a powerful anti-psychotic drug. If their other
personality goes away, then you have your answer.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "george" |
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| Title: Re: Moron Skeptics: Channeling Nostradamus |
14 Aug 2006 07:46:38 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1155591298.966205.122230@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, george at
gblack@hnpl.net, typed this:
JTEM wrote:
george wrote:
I want him to demonstrate that he can do what he
claims. So far he doesn't want to apply for the
$1,000,000 challenge.
I can't "Prove" anything to people who simply refuse to
see the truth. Watch. I'll demonstrate. I'll show an
idiot that he's an idiot, yet he will impose blindness on
himself, refusing to see the obvious:
The question was how could some-one claiming to be in contact with
Nostradamus be tested !
Pump them full of a powerful anti-psychotic drug. If their other
personality goes away, then you have your answer.
The bells, the bells :-)
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Moron Skeptics: Channeling Nostradamus |
14 Aug 2006 07:57:48 PM |
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In News 1155602798.846982.87950@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, george at
gblack@hnpl.net, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1155591298.966205.122230@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,
george at gblack@hnpl.net, typed this:
JTEM wrote:
george wrote:
I want him to demonstrate that he can do what he
claims. So far he doesn't want to apply for the
$1,000,000 challenge.
I can't "Prove" anything to people who simply refuse to
see the truth. Watch. I'll demonstrate. I'll show an
idiot that he's an idiot, yet he will impose blindness on
himself, refusing to see the obvious:
The question was how could some-one claiming to be in contact with
Nostradamus be tested !
Pump them full of a powerful anti-psychotic drug. If their other
personality goes away, then you have your answer.
The bells, the bells :-)
LOL!
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "" |
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14 Aug 2006 07:44:57 PM |
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george wrote:
The question was how could some-one claiming to be
in contact with Nostradamus be tested !
No. The question is, "Are you really insane, or are you
aware that you invented my position?"
Because...
I gave a few points upon which such a test would be carried
out (if agreed upon)..
Not even close. Any "test" would supposedly be testing my
claims, while you completely ignored my claims.
My personal opinion is that there is no such possibility
that such a thing as 'channeling' can occur.
Well how convenient that your "test" is designed to ignore
my claims.
Funny how that worked out...
I would suspect that someone who was honestly skeptical
wouldn't feel the need to rig the results like that.
To put it as simply as I can
Oh, honey, you don't know the half of it...
It seems that you believe that it is possible so why don't
you apply for the JREF Challenge ?
Like I said, and you demonstrated for all to see, there is no
such challenge, no such "test."
Again, I challenge YOU. Go ahead, sparky, try to prove
me wrong. Describe for us a test that actually would test
my claims instead of your fantasies.
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| User: "" |
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12 Aug 2006 11:49:33 PM |
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george wrote:
Apparently English isn't your first language, but I'll
try again...
I said:
There's nothing "cruel" about a spirit refusing to hand
you material wealth, any more than it is "cruel" that
the nearest rich person hasn't already done so.
And, let's face it, not only is the above 100% true, but it is
true in such an obvious way that no sane person could
disagree.
You, in apparent disagreement, stated (in part) the following:
Riiight.
Somewhat startled by what seemed to be a disagreement
with the bleeding obvious, I ask:
You disagree. On what basis?
To this you answer:
that you are a kook and you are avoiding the JREF
challenge. you could win a $1,000,000 prize if you
weren't a fake
Now you're obviously having an argument with yourself
here, completely independent of not just everything I say,
but independent of your own prior statements. Still worse,
you come across as if you believe you are doing quite
well in this imaginary argument, scoring numerous "hits"
upon yourself...errr... imaginary opponent.
Please seek help.
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| User: "David Mitchell" |
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14 Aug 2006 11:03:28 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:23:39 -0700, jtem01 wrote:
<snip>
Hey, jtem, in case you missed my question, or I missed your answer, here's
a nice simple one for you:
What are the orbital parameters of the next trans-plutonian planet
we discover?
For a bonus point, what's its mass?
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= David --- No, not that one.
= Mitchell ---
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12 Aug 2006 12:47:14 AM |
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Gooday there !!!
I won't ask U for the lottery numbers coz I have already
won lotto way back last century back in the year 1990 !!!!
However, I would *dearly* love to know the following:
The next major man-made catastrophes occur in the Spring
of 2006 (September - December 2006) which iz Autumn in the
Northern Hemisphere....I have had many lucid prophetic dreams
& visions about these events which occur almost simultaneously
within half an hour of one another & are widespread, ie: the Middle
East, Europe & N America.....
Any validity to this ?!?!
Am I transcending the boundaries of the time-space continuuim
& tapping into the Universal Superconciousness in order to receive
this information -- or iz it all an illusion ?!?!?!
I suppose a hellovalot of the proverbial iz gonna hit the fan & the Fat
Lady will strut her stuff pretty soon -- but at the moment I am getting
mixed
signals on this....
ATB & TIA !!!!
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
(Walter P.P. Lorne)
---0---
jte...@gmail.com wrote:
As many of you may already be aware, I am an
accomplished medium who has often channeled
none other than Nostradamus himself.
Though unpaid, my work in the spiritual realm is
both productive and rewarding. Every time I
think of all the celebrities, CEOs, community
leaders & national politicians that I've been able
to guide towards success through the use of my
gifts, I can't help but feel a sense of pride of such
an extant that I dare call it "sinful."
I know we all should be humbled by a power greater
than ourselves, and in my case doubly so, as
through my gifts I am in touch with that power on
a daily basis. And I assure you, as unvirtuous as
my expressed pride might seem, that despite my
powers I remain as human as the rest of you, with all
those same human faults & human frailties that
plague the rest of mankind. I would be less virtuous,
not more so, should I lie or otherwise conceal the
pride I feel towards my undeserved role in shaping
world events.
Now, as I said, I do not get paid for my work. However,
I do accept donations from those seeking guidance.
And, yes, more often than a perfect world would allow,
I am forced by circumstances to defer to those who
make a donation over those who do not. But I am not
in it for the money, and I will prove this to all of you
now.
What do you want to know? What secrets would you
like revealed?
The world is open to you, the sky your limit with but
one caveat: Ask me a question to gain information
and nothing else.
If, for example, you asked me tomorrow's Lotto
number I would ignore you. For the information itself
is not an end, but a means toward an end, with that
end being great wealth.
The same applies to stocks, commodities or any other
investment item. It can even apply towards seemingly
innocuous facts, like the fate of an ancient ancestor.
Your motives define it's validity.
Any question asked out of curiousity, or to satisfy an
entirely personal desire, is entirely valid. This is because
the information itself is the goal. If, on the other hand,
you are looking for a little insight so that you might
write the next Dan Brown style blockbuster novel, the
information is not the goal but a means towards an
end. It would be invalid.
This is important. There is a real danger here. If you
ask a question when in fact it is not the answer you
seek, but merely intend to use the answer to secure
some other goal, you risk disater. For, although I
can gaurantee you that all responses I present will be
technically true & technically accurate, the spirits will
respond to impure questions with ambiguity, often
times even to the point of being deliberately misleading.
I myself do not see the future. I myself do not know
any great secrets, or have the power to peer into the
hearts of men. I channel the spirits, and the spirit of
Nostradamus in particular, and I report back what they
have revealed to me. Unless it is something obvious,
like a lottery number, I may not recognize your question
as invalid, I may not know to not ask it. In short, I
may not be able to protect you from the potential
ruin of a "technically" true & accurate answer that
is deliberately vague and likely booby trapped with
misleading language that will steer you towards ruin.
Enlightment is yours for the asking! Go on, Skeptics,
you are hereby challenged to experience the solace
that only those of us exposed to the truth and in
touch with a power greater than ourselves have known.
Ask away! You have nothing to lose but your own skepticism.
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| User: "Wally Anglesea™" |
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15 Aug 2006 01:26:28 AM |
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On 11 Aug 2006 22:47:14 -0700, "Remember peoplez, an eye for a eye
will make the whole world blind. Oh well, it'z HOOROO once again to
all of my fave peepz from your Uncle Wally.·:*¨¨*:·. ?©®™"
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Gooday there !!!
I won't ask U for the lottery numbers coz I have already
won lotto way back last century back in the year 1990 !!!!
However, I would *dearly* love to know the following:
The next major man-made catastrophes occur in the Spring
of 2006 (September - December 2006) which iz Autumn in the
Northern Hemisphere....I have had many lucid prophetic dreams
& visions about these events which occur almost simultaneously
within half an hour of one another & are widespread, ie: the Middle
East, Europe & N America.....
Any validity to this ?!?!
Am I transcending the boundaries of the time-space continuuim
& tapping into the Universal Superconciousness in order to receive
this information -- or iz it all an illusion ?!?!?!
Illusion. At least it explains why you have been so consistently wrong
so far.
--
"FOR I HAVE BECOME VENGEANCE AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH"
"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
DM in meltdown mode, February 2003
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| User: "" |
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12 Aug 2006 01:05:27 AM |
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Remember peoplez, an eye for a eye will make the whole world blind.
Oh well, it'z HOOROO once again to all of my fave peepz from your
Uncle Wally.=C2=B7:*=C2=A8=C2=A8*:=C2=B7. =E2=99=A5=C2=A9=C2=AE=E2=84=A2 wr=
ote:
However, I would *dearly* love to know the following:
The next major man-made catastrophes occur in the Spring
of 2006 (September - December 2006) which iz Autumn in the
Northern Hemisphere....I have had many lucid prophetic dreams
& visions about these events which occur almost simultaneously
within half an hour of one another & are widespread, ie: the Middle
East, Europe & N America.....
Any validity to this ?!?!
I haven't the time right now, and there is no reason why I couldn't
revisit this question later for further clarification, but the
uninterpreted
response from Nostradamus is as follows:
"A man blind, on a corner stands. Tin cup at the ready, he turns
from the crowd, and so no coin may enter."
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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12 Aug 2006 04:59:03 AM |
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wrote:
"What do you want to know? What secrets would you
like revealed? The world is open to you, the sky your limit with but
one caveat: Ask me a question to gain information
and nothing else."
My question fulfils your criteria.
How much money each year to you...amass...from these 'donations'?
Werewolfy
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| User: "" |
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12 Aug 2006 02:17:57 PM |
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Werewolfy wrote:
My question fulfils your criteria.
As you dictate to the spirits, why not simply
decide their answer for them?
My offer is for those who are open to the
truth, not fortified against it.
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| User: "" |
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15 Aug 2006 03:57:53 AM |
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wrote:
Remember peoplez, an eye for a eye will make the whole world blind.
Oh well, it'z HOOROO once again to all of my fave peepz from your
Uncle Wally.=C2=B7:*=C2=A8=C2=A8*:=C2=B7. =E2=99=A5=C2=A9=C2=AE=E2=84=A2 =
wrote:
However, I would *dearly* love to know the following:
The next major man-made catastrophes occur in the Spring
of 2006 (September - December 2006) which iz Autumn in the
Northern Hemisphere....I have had many lucid prophetic dreams
& visions about these events which occur almost simultaneously
within half an hour of one another & are widespread, ie: the Middle
East, Europe & N America.....
Any validity to this ?!?!
I haven't the time right now, and there is no reason why I couldn't
revisit this question later for further clarification, but the
uninterpreted
response from Nostradamus is as follows:
"A man blind, on a corner stands. Tin cup at the ready, he turns
from the crowd, and so no coin may enter."
LOL!
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| User: "" |
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15 Aug 2006 04:05:16 AM |
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Remember peoplez, an eye for a eye will make the whole world blind. Oh
well, it'z HOOROO once again to all of my fave peepz from your Uncle
Wally.=C2=B7:*=C2=A8=C2=A8*:=C2=B7. =E2=99=A5=C2=A9=C2=AE=E2=84=A2 wrote:
Gooday there !!!
I won't ask U for the lottery numbers coz I have already
won lotto way back last century back in the year 1990 !!!!
However, I would *dearly* love to know the following:
The next major man-made catastrophes occur in the Spring
of 2006 (September - December 2006) which iz Autumn in the
Northern Hemisphere....I have had many lucid prophetic dreams
& visions about these events which occur almost simultaneously
within half an hour of one another & are widespread, ie: the Middle
East, Europe & N America.....
Any validity to this ?!?!
Dear Walter,
I would like to answer your question with a more meaningful answer than
the one offered by our happy medium.
There is no validity to your lucid dreams whatsoever. Everything will
be ok.
S~
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| User: "Alan Morgan" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
13 Aug 2006 01:54:20 PM |
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In article <1155360977.828857.33540@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
<jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
As many of you may already be aware, I am an
accomplished medium who has often channeled
none other than Nostradamus himself.
[snip]
Any question asked out of curiousity, or to satisfy an
entirely personal desire, is entirely valid. This is because
the information itself is the goal.
Okay. My middle name is "Mark". I am wondering why my parents
picked that name.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
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| User: "" |
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13 Aug 2006 02:14:57 PM |
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Alan Morgan wrote:
Okay. My middle name is "Mark". I am wondering why
my parents picked that name.
I have successfully channeled Nostradamus, the greatest
seer of all time, and he has revealed to me the following:
"Pose not of the enigma. Quaff thy Desiccated Floret."
Careful. There is more than one way to interpret that.
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| User: "Alan Morgan" |
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13 Aug 2006 02:40:47 PM |
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In article <1155496497.182978.260070@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan Morgan wrote:
Okay. My middle name is "Mark". I am wondering why
my parents picked that name.
I have successfully channeled Nostradamus, the greatest
seer of all time, and he has revealed to me the following:
"Pose not of the enigma. Quaff thy Desiccated Floret."
Careful. There is more than one way to interpret that.
I can think of two:
1. You're a loony
2. I've been trolled
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
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| User: "Barrys Leftnut" |
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12 Aug 2006 09:32:01 PM |
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On 2006-08-12 01:36:17 -0400, said:
As many of you may already be aware, I am an
accomplished medium who has often channeled
none other than Nostradamus himself.
ROTFLMAO!!!! YOU are a freakin' *****.
No, actually you're not even that useful.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
12 Aug 2006 05:56:00 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:36:17 -0700, wrote in message
news:<1155360977.828857.33540@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>...
As many of you may already be aware, I am an
accomplished medium who has often channeled
none other than Nostradamus himself.
Though unpaid, my work in the spiritual realm is
both productive and rewarding. Every time I
think of all the celebrities, CEOs, community
leaders & national politicians that I've been able
to guide towards success through the use of my
gifts, I can't help but feel a sense of pride of such
an extant that I dare call it "sinful."
I know we all should be humbled by a power greater
than ourselves, and in my case doubly so, as
through my gifts I am in touch with that power on
a daily basis. And I assure you, as unvirtuous as
my expressed pride might seem, that despite my
powers I remain as human as the rest of you, with all
those same human faults & human frailties that
plague the rest of mankind. I would be less virtuous,
not more so, should I lie or otherwise conceal the
pride I feel towards my undeserved role in shaping
world events.
Now, as I said, I do not get paid for my work. However,
I do accept donations from those seeking guidance.
And, yes, more often than a perfect world would allow,
I am forced by circumstances to defer to those who
make a donation over those who do not. But I am not
in it for the money, and I will prove this to all of you
now.
What do you want to know? What secrets would you
like revealed?
The world is open to you, the sky your limit with but
one caveat: Ask me a question to gain information
and nothing else.
If, for example, you asked me tomorrow's Lotto
number I would ignore you. For the information itself
is not an end, but a means toward an end, with that
end being great wealth.
The same applies to stocks, commodities or any other
investment item. It can even apply towards seemingly
innocuous facts, like the fate of an ancient ancestor.
Your motives define it's validity.
Any question asked out of curiousity, or to satisfy an
entirely personal desire, is entirely valid. This is because
the information itself is the goal. If, on the other hand,
you are looking for a little insight so that you might
write the next Dan Brown style blockbuster novel, the
information is not the goal but a means towards an
end. It would be invalid.
This is important. There is a real danger here. If you
ask a question when in fact it is not the answer you
seek, but merely intend to use the answer to secure
some other goal, you risk disater. For, although I
can gaurantee you that all responses I present will be
technically true & technically accurate, the spirits will
respond to impure questions with ambiguity, often
times even to the point of being deliberately misleading.
I myself do not see the future. I myself do not know
any great secrets, or have the power to peer into the
hearts of men. I channel the spirits, and the spirit of
Nostradamus in particular, and I report back what they
have revealed to me. Unless it is something obvious,
like a lottery number, I may not recognize your question
as invalid, I may not know to not ask it. In short, I
may not be able to protect you from the potential
ruin of a "technically" true & accurate answer that
is deliberately vague and likely booby trapped with
misleading language that will steer you towards ruin.
Enlightment is yours for the asking! Go on, Skeptics,
you are hereby challenged to experience the solace
that only those of us exposed to the truth and in
touch with a power greater than ourselves have known.
Ask away! You have nothing to lose but your own skepticism.
I have something I've been wondering for some time now. Why haven't we
caught Osama bin Laden yet? Are the U.S. troops working hard to find him,
or does Bush have no intention of ever trying to find him because of some
sinister motive?
Also, are we due for another 9/11 type attack, and if so how can we avert
it?
--
Funny Lurlean quote #31:
"When old Steve got yours I doubt if you even hung the bloody sheet out the
window to prove to all of your neighbors that you were still a virgin."
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
13 Aug 2006 12:01:12 AM |
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Bill Baker wrote:
I have something I've been wondering for some time now.
Why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden yet? Are the
U.S. troops working hard to find him, or does Bush have
no intention of ever trying to find him because of some
sinister motive?
Also, are we due for another 9/11 type attack, and if so
how can we avert it?
Please, just one question at a time.
It would also help if you didn't inject any speculation. I
am more than willing to listen to your opinion on the
matter, though not when it takes the form of a leading
question.
You're either telling me what you want to hear, or trying
to bait me. Either way, you will gain nothing from it.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
13 Aug 2006 09:41:30 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:01:12 -0700, wrote in message
news:<1155445272.386262.312370@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
Bill Baker wrote:
I have something I've been wondering for some time now.
Why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden yet? Are the
U.S. troops working hard to find him, or does Bush have
no intention of ever trying to find him because of some
sinister motive?
Also, are we due for another 9/11 type attack, and if so
how can we avert it?
Please, just one question at a time.
It would also help if you didn't inject any speculation. I
am more than willing to listen to your opinion on the
matter, though not when it takes the form of a leading
question.
You're either telling me what you want to hear, or trying
to bait me. Either way, you will gain nothing from it.
OK, then just answer one of the following questions for me. You choose:
1. Why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden yet?
2. Are we due for another 9/11 type attack, and if so how can we avert it?
--
Bushism 5-31:
"There's no cave deep enough for America, or dark enough to hide."
--Oklahoma City, Oklahoma; August 29, 2002
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
13 Aug 2006 01:37:50 PM |
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Bill Baker wrote:
Please, just one question at a time.
[snip]
OK, then just answer one of the following questions for me.
No, seriously. "One" question.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
13 Aug 2006 02:51:40 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:37:50 -0700, wrote in message
news:<1155494270.862373.40320@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>...
Bill Baker wrote:
Please, just one question at a time.
[snip]
OK, then just answer one of the following questions for me.
No, seriously. "One" question.
Then do the first one. Why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden yet?
--
Bushism 5-3:
"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply
ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table."
--Brussels, Belgium; February 22, 2005
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
14 Aug 2006 04:38:27 AM |
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Bill Baker wrote:
Why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden yet?
As you can imagine, this subject has come up before...
I must say though, it's still a leading question. You'e
asking for an answer that assumes Bin Laden is
alive & free.
He's not. They got him a while ago. They're just trying
to avoid making a martyr out of him. A Bin Laden that
slowly slips away & vanishes is a Bin Laden that can
be forgotten. A dead Bin Laden is a martyr.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
14 Aug 2006 06:17:25 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:38:27 -0700, wrote in message
news:1155548307.096104.227080@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bill Baker wrote:
Why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden yet?
As you can imagine, this subject has come up before...
I must say though, it's still a leading question. You'e
asking for an answer that assumes Bin Laden is
alive & free.
He's not. They got him a while ago. They're just trying
to avoid making a martyr out of him. A Bin Laden that
slowly slips away & vanishes is a Bin Laden that can
be forgotten. A dead Bin Laden is a martyr.
But wouldn't bin Laden's followers notice that he is no longer alive no
matter how much of a secret the U.S. tried to keep it?
--
Bushism 1-7/8:
"Sometimes, Washington is one of these towns where the person--people--who think
they've got the sharp elbow is the most effective person."
--New Orleans, Louisiana; December 3, 2002
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
14 Aug 2006 06:44:34 AM |
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Bill Baker wrote:
I must say though, it's still a leading question. You'e
asking for an answer that assumes Bin Laden is
alive & free.
He's not. They got him a while ago. They're just trying
to avoid making a martyr out of him. A Bin Laden that
slowly slips away & vanishes is a Bin Laden that can
be forgotten. A dead Bin Laden is a martyr.
But wouldn't bin Laden's followers notice that he is no
longer alive no matter how much of a secret the U.S.
tried to keep it?
Well I never posed that specific question to the spirits,
but if I might infer an answer it's that you're thinking in
terms of yourself and not Bin Laden.
"Al Qaida" ws never an "organization" in any way that
you might understand the term. Placed in simplistic
terms, it was a school. Think of it as a Bob Jones
"University" with bomb making classes, only without
the newsletters, class reunions and Alumni associations.
There's really no way for "Graduates" to know where
Bin Laden is, how he's doing or his views on current
events.... other than rumors. Communications from
Bin Laden had been "slow," at best, starting before
2001, and communication sent to Bin Laden were
much, much slower. He avoided "Signals" -- like
phones or radios -- and moved around often. Once the
war began, even this one-way communication had
to cease.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
14 Aug 2006 09:03:49 AM |
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wrote:
Bill Baker wrote:
I must say though, it's still a leading question. You'e
asking for an answer that assumes Bin Laden is
alive & free.
He's not. They got him a while ago. They're just trying
to avoid making a martyr out of him. A Bin Laden that
slowly slips away & vanishes is a Bin Laden that can
be forgotten. A dead Bin Laden is a martyr.
But wouldn't bin Laden's followers notice that he is no
longer alive no matter how much of a secret the U.S.
tried to keep it?
Well I never posed that specific question to the spirits,
but if I might infer an answer it's that you're thinking in
terms of yourself and not Bin Laden.
"Al Qaida" ws never an "organization" in any way that
you might understand the term. Placed in simplistic
terms, it was a school. Think of it as a Bob Jones
"University" with bomb making classes, only without
the newsletters, class reunions and Alumni associations.
There's really no way for "Graduates" to know where
Bin Laden is, how he's doing or his views on current
events.... other than rumors. Communications from
Bin Laden had been "slow," at best, starting before
2001, and communication sent to Bin Laden were
much, much slower. He avoided "Signals" -- like
phones or radios -- and moved around often. Once the
war began, even this one-way communication had
to cease.
Forgive me for being skeptical, but wouldn't there be at least some
people close to him that would notice him not being alive any more? I
mean sure, we could kill them too, but then we'd have to kill the
people close to them and it would just snowball.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptics Invited: Channeling Nostradamus |
14 Aug 2006 09:22:36 AM |
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Bill Baker wrote:
Forgive me for being skeptical, but wouldn't there be at
least some people close to him that would notice him
not being alive any more?
By definition, they would all be dead as well.
I mean sure, we could kill them too, but then we'd have
to kill the people close to them and it would just
snowball.
I have no idea what you're imagining. But we are talking
about a man who had been on the constant move, refusing
to be near any "real time" communications, keeping as
low a profile as possible & trying to not let the secret of
his location out... all BEFORE the invasion of Afghanistan.
All anyone would know is that they hadn't heard anything
directly. Attributing statements to Bin Laden is easy. It
always was. But, starting even before the war, direct
contact with Bin Laden was out of the question.
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