In article <8ajJc.19677883$Id.3259321@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <cd3d76$793$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se>, "tw" <no@no.com>
wrote:
Quite simply, do you find following statement anti-semitic:
"Jewish Christian, Muslim (and any other religious stripe)
Fundamentalists
are twisted Hypocrites, who really pray to the devil."
Thanks in advance
Nope, it's pretty even handed against every group of fundies.
Woods
So it is anti-Semite, and anti Christian, and anti-Islamic, wouldn't you
agree?
No, I wouldn't - it's anti-fundie. You can be pro-christian, and still be
anti-fundie-christian. In fact, I know quite a few regular churchgoers who
are
in that category. I don't know anybody who can stand fundies of any
religion.
The first part is the main interest in the discussion.
That may be *your* main interest, but that's not what the threat started off
with, and I do think it's important to realize that fundamentalism is a
threat
to freedoms and liberty if such groups are permitted excessive influence
over
the government.
Woods
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tw a écrit:
In article <8ajJc.19677883$Id.3259321@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <cd3d76$793$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se>, "tw" <no@no.com>
wrote:
Quite simply, do you find following statement anti-semitic:
"Jewish Christian, Muslim (and any other religious stripe)
Fundamentalists
are twisted Hypocrites, who really pray to the devil."
Thanks in advance
Nope, it's pretty even handed against every group of fundies.
Woods
So it is anti-Semite, and anti Christian, and anti-Islamic, wouldn't you
agree?
No, I wouldn't - it's anti-fundie. You can be pro-christian, and still be
anti-fundie-christian. In fact, I know quite a few regular churchgoers who
are
in that category. I don't know anybody who can stand fundies of any
religion.
Sorry, wrong answer.
This is what fudamentalism is as I pointed pout to Woods....
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fundamentalism
"A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to
fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by
intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism."
True, she said I've never met an Orthodox Jew that is intolerant of others.
To which I replied:
Exactly, but they are STILL the fundamentalists (didn't you read the link?):
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Fundamentalist#Jewish_views
Here is the quote:
Orthodox Judaism <http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Orthodox_Judaism>,
especially Ultra-Orthodox Judaism
<http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Ultra-Orthodox_Judaism>, is a
fundamentalist Jewish denomination, as opposed to Reform Judaism
<http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Reform_Judaism>, Reconstructionist
Judaism <http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Reconstructionist_Judaism>,
and Conservative Judaism
<http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Conservative_Judaism>, which are
theologically opposed to fundamentalism. No Jews, even the Orthodox,
read the Tanakh <http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Tanakh> in a literal
fashion, but most Orthodox Jews read the Mishnah and Talmud in what may
be termed a fundamentalist way. All Ultra-Orthodox Jews, and many Modern
Orthodox Jews, hold that these texts are divine and infallible. Hasidic
Jews <http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Hasidic_Judaism> usually ascribe
infallibility to their rebbe <http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Rebbe>'s
interpretation of the traditional sources of truth.
This is my point! To say that "all fundamentalist Jews (I won't mention
the two other monotheist denominations for the purpose of making this
particular point, but I admit that the lies goes further) are twisted
hypocrites who really worship the devil" as tw repeatedly purports, is
an anti-semite statement, so you agree with me.
J.
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tw a écrit:<br>
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<pre wrap="">In article <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:8ajJc.19677883$Id.3259321@news.easynews.com"><8ajJc.19677883$Id.3259321@news.easynews.com></a>, Jean Guernon
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Woodswun a écrit:
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<pre wrap="">In article <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cd3d76$793$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se"><cd3d76$793$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se></a>, "tw" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:no@no.com"><no@no.com></a>
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<pre wrap="">Quite simply, do you find following statement anti-semitic:
"Jewish Christian, Muslim (and any other religious stripe)
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<pre wrap=""><!---->Fundamentalists
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<pre wrap="">are twisted Hypocrites, who really pray to the devil."
Thanks in advance
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Nope, it's pretty even handed against every group of fundies.
Woods
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<pre wrap="">So it is anti-Semite, and anti Christian, and anti-Islamic, wouldn't you
agree?
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
No, I wouldn't - it's anti-fundie. You can be pro-christian, and still be
anti-fundie-christian. In fact, I know quite a few regular churchgoers who
are
in that category. I don't know anybody who can stand fundies of any
religion.</pre>
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Sorry, wrong answer.<br>
This is what fudamentalism is as I pointed pout to Woods....<br>
<pre wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fundamentalism">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fundamentalism</a>
"A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to
fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by
intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism."
True, she said I've never met an Orthodox Jew that is intolerant of others.
To which I replied:
</pre>
Exactly, but they are STILL the fundamentalists (didn't you read the
link?):<br>
<a href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Fundamentalist#Jewish_views">http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Fundamentalist#Jewish_views</a><br>
Here is the quote:<br>
<a href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Orthodox_Judaism"
title="Orthodox Judaism">Orthodox Judaism</a>, especially <a
href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Ultra-Orthodox_Judaism"
title="Ultra-Orthodox Judaism">Ultra-Orthodox Judaism</a>, is a
fundamentalist Jewish denomination, as opposed to <a
href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Reform_Judaism"
title="Reform Judaism">Reform Judaism</a>, <a
href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Reconstructionist_Judaism"
title="Reconstructionist Judaism">Reconstructionist Judaism</a>, and <a
href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Conservative_Judaism"
title="Conservative Judaism">Conservative Judaism</a>, which are
theologically opposed to fundamentalism. No Jews, even the Orthodox,
read the <a href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Tanakh"
title="Tanakh">Tanakh</a>
in a literal fashion, but most Orthodox Jews read the Mishnah and
Talmud in what may be termed a fundamentalist way. All Ultra-Orthodox
Jews, and many Modern Orthodox Jews, hold that these texts are divine
and infallible. <a
href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Hasidic_Judaism"
title="Hasidic Judaism">Hasidic Jews</a> usually ascribe infallibility
to their <a href="http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Rebbe" title="Rebbe">rebbe</a>'s
interpretation of the traditional sources of truth.<br>
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This is my point! To say that "<i><font color="#ff0000">all
fundamentalist</font> <font color="#ff6600">Jews</font> <font
color="#ffcc33">(</font></i><font color="#ffcc33">I won't mention the
two other monotheist denominations for the purpose of making this
particular point, but I admit that the lies goes further</font><i><font
color="#ffcc33">)</font> <font color="#ff0000">are twisted hypocrites
who really worship the devil</font></i>" as tw repeatedly purports, is <u><font
color="#ff0000"><b>an anti-semite statement</b></font></u>, so you
agree
with me.<br>
<br>
J.<br>
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tw a écrit:
In article <8ajJc.19677883$Id.3259321@news.easynews.com>,
Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <cd3d76$793$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se>, "tw"
<no@no.com>
wrote:
Quite simply, do you find following statement anti-semitic:
"Jewish Christian, Muslim (and any other religious stripe)
Fundamentalists
are twisted Hypocrites, who really pray to the devil."
Thanks in advance
Nope, it's pretty even handed against every group of fundies.
Woods
So it is anti-Semite, and anti Christian, and anti-Islamic,
wouldn't
you agree?
No, I wouldn't - it's anti-fundie. You can be
pro-christian, and still
be anti-fundie-christian. In fact, I know quite a few regular
churchgoers who are in that category. I don't know anybody who can
stand fundies of any religion.
Sorry, wrong answer.
Nope,. right answer. Woods didn't find the post anti-semtic., you lose.
Apologise.-
This is what fudamentalism is as I pointed pout to Woods....
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fundamentalism
"A usually religious movement or point of view characterized
by a return to
fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those
principles, and often by
intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism."
Absolutely, "intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism". A
bad thing and I don't care WHAT religion is expressing that intolerance.
<snip ridiculous attempt to redefine what was actuallly said>
This is my point! To say that "all fundamentalist Jews (I
won't mention
the two other monotheist denominations for the purpose of making this
particular point, but I admit that the lies goes further) are twisted
hypocrites who really worship the devil" as tw repeatedly
purports, is
an anti-semite statement
No it isn't you fucking fruitcake. It *might* be taken that way if I had
mentioned Judaism in isolation, however, I didn't.
So where's the apology? You have been exposed as a liar, and I can only
assume you do this due to your own anti-semitism.
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