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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "Daylight"
Date: 28 Dec 2004 11:12:54 AM
Object: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'?
Poll shows soldiers back war
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20041227/topstories/56995.shtml
If that is true, all it means that they deserve to die like this:
http://img98.exs.cx/img98/2622/34nm.jpg
or killed on the streets like lost dogs:
http://img72.exs.cx/img72/8687/mtv400dzlitem1613ie.jpg
and we have all the right to laugh at them when they cry:
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/9641/11017564625ib.jpg
And these people will continue bringing it on as never expected
http://img144.exs.cx/img144/2470/post411000655756zx.jpg
.

User: "eric davis"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 28 Dec 2004 01:01:42 PM
I Agree. I have absolutely no sympathy for these soldiers. Justice demands
their deaths in large numbers.
eric.
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104253974.062341.30440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Poll shows soldiers back war
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20041227/topstories/56995.shtml

If that is true, all it means that they deserve to die like this:
http://img98.exs.cx/img98/2622/34nm.jpg

or killed on the streets like lost dogs:
http://img72.exs.cx/img72/8687/mtv400dzlitem1613ie.jpg

and we have all the right to laugh at them when they cry:
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/9641/11017564625ib.jpg

And these people will continue bringing it on as never expected
http://img144.exs.cx/img144/2470/post411000655756zx.jpg

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 28 Dec 2004 03:57:56 PM
I agee also! I just wish I knew what I could do here...
Daud
daudwill@yahoo.com
.
User: "Jay T.Beatty"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 28 Dec 2004 06:23:12 PM
<daudwill@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104271076.237462.49860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

I agee also! I just wish I knew what I could do here...
Daud
daudwill@yahoo.com

How about doing something to increase your IQ, one of those pictures
wern't even from the current conflict. Morons.
.


User: "Paulo Gomes Jardim"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 30 Dec 2004 02:13:31 AM
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:01:42 -0500, eric davis <ericdaivs500@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I Agree. I have absolutely no sympathy for these soldiers. Justice
demands
their deaths in large numbers.

They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.

eric.

"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104253974.062341.30440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Poll shows soldiers back war
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20041227/topstories/56995.shtml

If that is true, all it means that they deserve to die like this:
http://img98.exs.cx/img98/2622/34nm.jpg

or killed on the streets like lost dogs:
http://img72.exs.cx/img72/8687/mtv400dzlitem1613ie.jpg

and we have all the right to laugh at them when they cry:
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/9641/11017564625ib.jpg

And these people will continue bringing it on as never expected
http://img144.exs.cx/img144/2470/post411000655756zx.jpg



--
" Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." --
Horacio
.
User: "Howard Berkowitz"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 30 Dec 2004 08:46:15 AM
In article <opsjtagtzdurn6af@paulo>, "Paulo Gomes Jardim"
<darwin+usenet@spamcop.net> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:01:42 -0500, eric davis <ericdaivs500@hotmail.com>

wrote:

I Agree. I have absolutely no sympathy for these soldiers. Justice
demands
their deaths in large numbers.


They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but I've
learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.
May I respectfully ask a serious question, which is not at all intended
to be sarcastic? Are there governments that are generally consistent
with your view of both individual and international rights? If so, what
would be some examples? I ask this only because I think you might have
interesting answers -- even though I might not agree, you'll probably
make me think.
.
User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 30 Dec 2004 02:10:52 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:46:15 -0500, Howard Berkowitz
<hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote:

In article <opsjtagtzdurn6af@paulo>, "Paulo Gomes Jardim"
<darwin+usenet@spamcop.net> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:01:42 -0500, eric davis <ericdaivs500@hotmail.com>

wrote:

I Agree. I have absolutely no sympathy for these soldiers. Justice
demands
their deaths in large numbers.


They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but I've
learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.

I see this as just another example of somebody trying to explain away
another's differing opinions by rationalizing that they are unable to
think for themselves.
--
Duty First!
.
User: "Howard Berkowitz"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 30 Dec 2004 06:34:39 PM
In article <m3o8t0hicn9cecu99dv0qu8sk3mnfmt7dn@4ax.com>,
activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore) wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:46:15 -0500, Howard Berkowitz
<hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote:

In article <opsjtagtzdurn6af@paulo>, "Paulo Gomes Jardim"
<darwin+usenet@spamcop.net> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:01:42 -0500, eric davis
<ericdaivs500@hotmail.com>

wrote:

I Agree. I have absolutely no sympathy for these soldiers. Justice

demands
their deaths in large numbers.


They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but I've
learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.


I see this as just another example of somebody trying to explain away
another's differing opinions by rationalizing that they are unable to
think for themselves.

Colin, I frankly don't understand your point. I have found I disagree
with Paulo on almost every political point, but, as opppsed to many
posters, he is sometimes willing to approach something like a debate.
Yes, some of his posts may be abrasive, and there are certainly times we
have agreed to disagree. I doubt we'd select the same country of
residence.
I have never suggested he can't think for himself, even though I usually
disagree with his conclusions.
.
User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 31 Dec 2004 03:07:38 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:34:39 -0500, Howard Berkowitz
<hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote:

They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but I've
learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.


I see this as just another example of somebody trying to explain away
another's differing opinions by rationalizing that they are unable to
think for themselves.

Colin, I frankly don't understand your point. I have found I disagree
with Paulo on almost every political point, but, as opppsed to many
posters, he is sometimes willing to approach something like a debate.
Yes, some of his posts may be abrasive, and there are certainly times we
have agreed to disagree. I doubt we'd select the same country of
residence.

I have never suggested he can't think for himself, even though I usually
disagree with his conclusions.

I interpreted his post as regarding us as 'peons' who are unable to
come up with our own opinions.
--
Duty First!
.
User: "Daryl Hunt"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 31 Dec 2004 05:43:51 PM
"Colin Campbell" <activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> wrote in
message news:9qfbt01o3j0e87a6sfpuu381j5h48n31ii@4ax.com...

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:34:39 -0500, Howard Berkowitz
<hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote:


They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but

I've

learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.


I see this as just another example of somebody trying to explain away
another's differing opinions by rationalizing that they are unable to
think for themselves.

Colin, I frankly don't understand your point. I have found I disagree
with Paulo on almost every political point, but, as opppsed to many
posters, he is sometimes willing to approach something like a debate.
Yes, some of his posts may be abrasive, and there are certainly times we
have agreed to disagree. I doubt we'd select the same country of
residence.

I have never suggested he can't think for himself, even though I usually
disagree with his conclusions.


I interpreted his post as regarding us as 'peons' who are unable to
come up with our own opinions.

You can have your opinion. Like we had ours in the past. We didn't plaster
that opinion all over the Media (the usenets are media). We talked amongst
ourselves but when the Media was present, we were very careful what we said.
Better to shut up than express anything that might harm the United States in
any way. Civilians don't have that self restriction even though they
should, maybe.






--

Duty First!

.

User: "Howard Berkowitz"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 31 Dec 2004 03:38:46 PM
In article <9qfbt01o3j0e87a6sfpuu381j5h48n31ii@4ax.com>,
activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore) wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:34:39 -0500, Howard Berkowitz
<hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote:


They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a
sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but
I've
learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.


I see this as just another example of somebody trying to explain away
another's differing opinions by rationalizing that they are unable to
think for themselves.

Colin, I frankly don't understand your point. I have found I disagree
with Paulo on almost every political point, but, as opppsed to many
posters, he is sometimes willing to approach something like a debate.
Yes, some of his posts may be abrasive, and there are certainly times we
have agreed to disagree. I doubt we'd select the same country of
residence.

I have never suggested he can't think for himself, even though I usually
disagree with his conclusions.


I interpreted his post as regarding us as 'peons' who are unable to
come up with our own opinions.

I'd have to say that often is his default position. When I've taken the
trouble to respond in detail, he will often reply in like manner. I may
not accept his conclusions or indeed some of his data, but I've found he
isn't a pure sloganeer.
.
User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 01 Jan 2005 03:35:44 PM
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:38:46 -0500, Howard Berkowitz
<hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote:

I'd have to say that often is his default position. When I've taken the
trouble to respond in detail, he will often reply in like manner. I may
not accept his conclusions or indeed some of his data, but I've found he
isn't a pure sloganeer.

I do not place much credibility in the opinions of somebody who cannot
accept the fact that intelligent and rational people can disagree with
him.
--
Duty First!
.





User: "Paulo Gomes Jardim"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 04 Jan 2005 08:18:51 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:46:15 -0500, Howard Berkowitz <hcb@gettcomm.com>
wrote:

In article <opsjtagtzdurn6af@paulo>, "Paulo Gomes Jardim"
<darwin+usenet@spamcop.net> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:01:42 -0500, eric davis
<ericdaivs500@hotmail.com>

wrote:

I Agree. I have absolutely no sympathy for these soldiers. Justice
demands
their deaths in large numbers.


They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but I've
learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.
May I respectfully ask a serious question, which is not at all intended
to be sarcastic? Are there governments that are generally consistent
with your view of both individual and international rights? If so, what
would be some examples? I ask this only because I think you might have
interesting answers -- even though I might not agree, you'll probably
make me think.

I have the Escandinavian countries in great account, they are often used
as a good example here in Europe for their politics, social status,
economics and so.
I guess they are generally consistent with individual rights, though there
are some exceptions when it comes to international rights, as Norway's
policy of pursuing with whaling despite global condenation.
But generally, I think that we on the European Union are walking with
large steps to such status, namely if we manage to find an acceptable way
to agree on a joint international UE policy. Most of all, we usually look
at the UN as a friend and not an enemy.
--
" Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." --
Horacio
.
User: "Howard Berkowitz"

Title: Re: Soldiers back war! Is that another 'Bring It On'? 04 Jan 2005 09:29:36 PM
In article <opsj3x1pwkurn6af@paulo>, "Paulo Gomes Jardim"
<darwin+usenet@spamcop.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:46:15 -0500, Howard Berkowitz <hcb@gettcomm.com>
wrote:

In article <opsjtagtzdurn6af@paulo>, "Paulo Gomes Jardim"
<darwin+usenet@spamcop.net> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:01:42 -0500, eric davis
<ericdaivs500@hotmail.com>

wrote:

I Agree. I have absolutely no sympathy for these soldiers. Justice
demands
their deaths in large numbers.


They are nothing more than peons in this game.
Justice demands nothing of them by default.


Paulo, we disagree on many things, but I will observe there is a sense
of fairness in this post. We might disagree about the peonage, but I've
learned enough that you don't flatly stereotype.


May I respectfully ask a serious question, which is not at all intended
to be sarcastic? Are there governments that are generally consistent
with your view of both individual and international rights? If so, what
would be some examples? I ask this only because I think you might have
interesting answers -- even though I might not agree, you'll probably
make me think.


I have the Escandinavian countries in great account, they are often used
as a good example here in Europe for their politics, social status,
economics and so.
I guess they are generally consistent with individual rights, though
there
are some exceptions when it comes to international rights, as Norway's
policy of pursuing with whaling despite global condenation.

Understood. I have close working relationships and friendships with
Swedes and Danes, other than my constantly amusing them by trying to
speak Dansk to the Swedes and Svensk to the Danes. I've also had one
professional conference in Oslo.
While their governmental model is certainly antithetical to many US
citizens, the Scandinavians I know seem quite happy with their
countries. I have one Swedish citizen friend now resident in the US, but
romance was involved. She speaks around 10 languages, but proudly called
me one day to tell me she can now think in Texan as well as standard
English.
OK. Points of reference that are useful.


But generally, I think that we on the European Union are walking with
large steps to such status, namely if we manage to find an acceptable way

to agree on a joint international UE policy. Most of all, we usually look

at the UN as a friend and not an enemy.

.






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