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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "Dani"
Date: 22 Oct 2004 01:37:52 AM
Object: Some advice..
Jean,
You might not like what I have to say, but after just looking over
this group, I feel it needs to be said for your own good.
You throw the "anti-semite" and "terrorist supporter" accusations
around way too often and easily. You have called Krib criminally
insane and an anti-American - you've called Tom an anti-semite
over and over but yet you're unable to produce even one post of his
that is anti-semitic. Also.. why do you think he would be fighting
this accusation so hard if he really is an anti-semite? If he was
one, it would be evident. You've obviously offended him to the
point where he's not going to let this go.
And Krib.. he's most certainly not an anti-American. He's travelled
here, and he told me that he thought Boston was great and the people
were great. He's also said in the past that he has love for America.
So again, like with Tom, I'm sure Krib is offended by that accusation
which is why you are getting so much flack on this group. You can't
expect to throw those accusations out so easily without retribution.
I also remember Krib saying once (before this happened between you
guys) that he liked you even though he's been told by you that he has
"wallowed in fartitude" ..
The point is you throw these accusations around way too easily. When
you're constantly accusing people of it - your words lose conviction
and begin to fall upon deaf ears.. hence you're doing yourself a
disservice because when you come across a *real* anti-semite,
anti-American terrorist supporter - people will think: "Oh there's
Jean shouting anti-semitism and anti-Americanism again!"
Tom isn't an anti-semite, Jean.. and Krib is not anti-American.
It takes a strong man to admit when he is wrong. And it's always
respected and admired when he does.
Maybe you can try?
Dani
.

User: "tw"

Title: Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 01:56:44 AM
<snip>
Excellent post Dani. The matter is now settled as far as I'm concerned.
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 08:20:43 AM
Dream on anti-semite *****.
J.
tw a écrit:

<snip>

Excellent post Dani. The matter is now settled as far as I'm concerned.


.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 08:37:54 AM
Grow some balls, you pathetic old dope.
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:LO7ed.3145640$ic1.324350@news.easynews.com...

Dream on anti-semite *****.

J.

tw a écrit:

<snip>

Excellent post Dani. The matter is now settled as far as I'm concerned.



.



User: "Krib"

Title: Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 02:56:08 AM
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:t38hn0l8616mlgot0udnbok5rolbc68bqo@4ax.com...

You might not like what I have to say, but after just looking over
this group, I feel it needs to be said for your own good.

Thanks for your kind words Dani, for my part this is the last
time I'll engage guernon providing he keeps his lies and slurs
to himself.
--
krib
.

User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 03:20:46 AM
Dani a écrit:

Jean,

You might not like what I have to say, but after just looking over
this group, I feel it needs to be said for your own good.

You throw the "anti-semite" and "terrorist supporter" accusations
around way too often and easily. You have called Krib criminally
insane and an anti-American - you've called Tom an anti-semite
over and over but yet you're unable to produce even one post of his
that is anti-semitic. Also.. why do you think he would be fighting
this accusation so hard if he really is an anti-semite? If he was
one, it would be evident. You've obviously offended him to the
point where he's not going to let this go.

And Krib.. he's most certainly not an anti-American. He's travelled
here, and he told me that he thought Boston was great and the people
were great. He's also said in the past that he has love for America.
So again, like with Tom, I'm sure Krib is offended by that accusation
which is why you are getting so much flack on this group. You can't
expect to throw those accusations out so easily without retribution.

I also remember Krib saying once (before this happened between you
guys) that he liked you even though he's been told by you that he has
"wallowed in fartitude" ..

The point is you throw these accusations around way too easily. When
you're constantly accusing people of it - your words lose conviction
and begin to fall upon deaf ears.. hence you're doing yourself a
disservice because when you come across a *real* anti-semite,
anti-American terrorist supporter - people will think: "Oh there's
Jean shouting anti-semitism and anti-Americanism again!"

Tom isn't an anti-semite, Jean.. and Krib is not anti-American.

It takes a strong man to admit when he is wrong. And it's always
respected and admired when he does.

Maybe you can try?

Dani

First of all, both are pieces of ***** who make up stuff continually
about my personal lives. Does anyone lie about your personal life now
that Tony is not there? Don't you know what this is like?
These assholes keep making up this stuff even when debunked to the bone
on every allegation, they wallow in lies. Most of their posts, and I
mean 95%, are only here to pick a fight with me. Make a check on google
on all of this year's posts.
Second, you never replied when you made another post about this little
***** anti-Semitism, a couple of days ago.
http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=nnNcd.16213$cr4.9069@edtnps84
Instead you make up another post and ignore my point, will you look at
it and reply now?
Please do otherwise why even bother make a post? Tell em, why not reply
tot hat post first????
Now, if you want MORE PROOF, for instance, he has been saying this over
and over again for two years now:
http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=ceq4d2$ojc$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se
"that the modern state of Israel was of course born out of the terrorism
of the Irgurn, Stern gang."
See, dani, this is a total lie, the Stern gang was never part of the
bombing discussed above. Nor part of anything that made modern Israel.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/stern.html
------------------------------------------------------------------------
in August, 1940, when the Irgun decided to suspend their attacks on the
British during World War II </jsource/holo.html>, Stern formed a radical
splinter opposition group, known as Lehi <../History/lehi.html>, an
acronym for "Lohamei Herut Yisrael." He maintained that, even in the
face of the Nazi threat, it was the British who posed the major threat
to the Jews; doubting the Allies could win the war, he even advocated an
alliance with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, believing these ties would
assist the nationalist effort in Eretz Yisrael.
Stern's extremism, coupled with several robberies committed by members
of his group, earned Lehi the resentment of many Jews in Eretz Yisrael,
as well as the British.
By 1942 the British had offered a reward for Stern's capture. On
February 12, 1942, the British discovered and forced their way into
Stern's hiding place in Tel Aviv, and killed him immediately.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The truth is that Stern is part of the history of what hindered Modern
Israel. Again, I have to reiterate, you think you can fool anyone into
thinking that someone who was a bandit who obeyed no one and advocated
alliance with Nazi Germany could be part of the history of what made
modern Israel? But tw keeps repeating the same lie over and over again
for over 2 years now.
Now you tell me is this not anti-semite too?
About krib, this ***** will never get anything else from me but to go
puke. he is the one attacking me continually with lies totally
gratuitously and he is the worse poster here. the last two attacks he
comes out of the blue and keep repeating the make up *****. Maybe he
kisses up to you by email, but he can kiss my ***** as far as I am
concerned before I even read any of his total debunked *****. He has
absolutely no clue and is worse than tw, I thought it was impossible to
be a little ***** and repeat lies over and over again, but baby krib
tops tw. The little pest is an ***** who can only make up ***** and
bicker about everyone. Ever saw him make a constructive post?
About his anti-americanism, I don't know, while discussing about the
fact that the US doesn't sponsor terrorism with the other loser AK who
not only do like these pieces of ***** and make up rumors, he also made
up several posts on sexual newsgroups BTW, impersonating Michael, and
these two little shits tw and krib keep repeating the lies AK made up by
forging posts!... but I digress, let's forget AK. Let's focus back: Krib
jumped in while we were discussing the fact that there was no american
terrorism, he (Krib) jumps in out of the blue, about the US sponsoring
the IRA (not that he cares really, he kisses the ***** of IRA KKKriSS WH),
which is proven not true of course, only a few individuals contribute to
some shadowy organization, not the US government, and since he has been
debunked about that, he has opened the insult level 200%. He has
sporadically been like that, out of the blue, and this is not an
acceptable attitude here. Maybe you have taken a liking to him because
he used to attack Tony or Dreamwalker as a sport, but now he is bored
and has to repeat the make up ***** about me.
Now maybe he is not really an anti-American *****, maybe he is just a
moron to come to the rescue of AK with his anti-American lies, I don't
know. I just tell you why I brand him that. I know he is looking for a
fight, even if he may not have real motives, if ever he is not anti-US
like you say.
Now, how to solve this? I don't know how I could even tell anything else
but to go puke a little more. He would have to apologize profusely and
promise to never be offensive against me ever again; with his ego 300
times bigger than his brain, there is no way this will happen. So forget it.
Tw is another matter. Well both look for a fight, but tw is really
making up lies about jews. OR ELSE: YOU explain to me how he is not an
anti-semite
1. with the post you didn't reply to and
2. with the other post what I show you and discuss here above.
Thank you Dani.
J.
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 06:04:11 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:yp3ed.1627041$yk.270350@news.easynews.com...



Dani a écrit:

Jean,

You might not like what I have to say, but after just looking over
this group, I feel it needs to be said for your own good.

You throw the "anti-semite" and "terrorist supporter" accusations
around way too often and easily. You have called Krib criminally
insane and an anti-American - you've called Tom an anti-semite
over and over but yet you're unable to produce even one post of his
that is anti-semitic. Also.. why do you think he would be fighting
this accusation so hard if he really is an anti-semite? If he was
one, it would be evident. You've obviously offended him to the
point where he's not going to let this go.

And Krib.. he's most certainly not an anti-American. He's travelled
here, and he told me that he thought Boston was great and the people
were great. He's also said in the past that he has love for America.
So again, like with Tom, I'm sure Krib is offended by that accusation
which is why you are getting so much flack on this group. You can't
expect to throw those accusations out so easily without retribution.

I also remember Krib saying once (before this happened between you
guys) that he liked you even though he's been told by you that he has
"wallowed in fartitude" ..

The point is you throw these accusations around way too easily. When
you're constantly accusing people of it - your words lose conviction
and begin to fall upon deaf ears.. hence you're doing yourself a
disservice because when you come across a *real* anti-semite,
anti-American terrorist supporter - people will think: "Oh there's
Jean shouting anti-semitism and anti-Americanism again!"

Tom isn't an anti-semite, Jean.. and Krib is not anti-American.

It takes a strong man to admit when he is wrong. And it's always
respected and admired when he does.

Maybe you can try?

Dani


First of all, both are pieces of ***** who make up stuff continually
about my personal lives. Does anyone lie about your personal life now
that Tony is not there? Don't you know what this is like?

These assholes keep making up this stuff even when debunked to the bone
on every allegation, they wallow in lies. Most of their posts, and I
mean 95%, are only here to pick a fight with me. Make a check on google
on all of this year's posts.

Second, you never replied when you made another post about this little
***** anti-Semitism, a couple of days ago.

http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=nnNcd.16213$cr4.9069@edtnps84

Dope, that's the wrong post, I take it you mean this one:
http://www.google.ca/groups?q=King+David+hotel+dani&hl=en&lr=&selm=ozUbd.239
00%24qU.12555%40clgrps13&rnum=1
the post where you compeletely mis-represent my argument?

Instead you make up another post and ignore my point, will you look at
it and reply now?

Why should she? It is merely more dishonesty from you. I brought up the King
David HOtel because you said the blame for that action fell "solely on teh
British" while the other side of your twisted, cowardly brain was attacking
people for being "terrorist apologists", you incredible hypocrite.

Please do otherwise why even bother make a post? Tell em, why not reply
tot hat post first????

Because it's *****, simply more baseless accusations from inside your
twisted skull.

Now, if you want MORE PROOF, for instance, he has been saying this over
and over again for two years now:


http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=ceq4d2$ojc$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se


"that the modern state of Israel was of course born out of the terrorism
of the Irgurn, Stern gang."

The actual quote was:
"the modern state of Israel was of course born out of the terrorism of the
Irgurn , Stern gang etcetera etcetera."
That is historical fact.

See, dani, this is a total lie, the Stern gang was never part of the
bombing discussed above.

How on earth is that relevant? The Stern gang were involved in the
foundation of the modern state of Israel and they commited terrorist acts.
Which statement do you disagree with?

Nor part of anything that made modern Israel.

Hence the inclusion of the Irgun and the "etcetera etcetera" you dishonest
little man.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/stern.html
------------------------------------------------------------------------
in August, 1940, when the Irgun decided to suspend their attacks on the
British during World War II </jsource/holo.html>, Stern formed a radical
splinter opposition group, known as Lehi <../History/lehi.html>, an
acronym for "Lohamei Herut Yisrael." He maintained that, even in the
face of the Nazi threat, it was the British who posed the major threat
to the Jews; doubting the Allies could win the war, he even advocated an
alliance with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, believing these ties would
assist the nationalist effort in Eretz Yisrael.

Stern's extremism, coupled with several robberies committed by members
of his group, earned Lehi the resentment of many Jews in Eretz Yisrael,
as well as the British.

By 1942 the British had offered a reward for Stern's capture. On
February 12, 1942, the British discovered and forced their way into
Stern's hiding place in Tel Aviv, and killed him immediately.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

The truth is that Stern is part of the history of what hindered Modern
Israel. Again, I have to reiterate, you think you can fool anyone into
thinking that someone who was a bandit who obeyed no one and advocated
alliance with Nazi Germany could be part of the history of what made
modern Israel? But tw keeps repeating the same lie over and over again
for over 2 years now.

Now you tell me is this not anti-semite too?

About krib, this ***** will never get anything else from me but to go
puke. he is the one attacking me continually with lies totally
gratuitously and he is the worse poster here. the last two attacks he
comes out of the blue and keep repeating the make up *****. Maybe he
kisses up to you by email, but he can kiss my ***** as far as I am
concerned before I even read any of his total debunked *****. He has
absolutely no clue and is worse than tw, I thought it was impossible to
be a little ***** and repeat lies over and over again, but baby krib
tops tw. The little pest is an ***** who can only make up ***** and
bicker about everyone. Ever saw him make a constructive post?

About his anti-americanism, I don't know, while discussing about the
fact that the US doesn't sponsor terrorism with the other loser AK who
not only do like these pieces of ***** and make up rumors, he also made
up several posts on sexual newsgroups BTW, impersonating Michael, and
these two little shits tw and krib keep repeating the lies AK made up by
forging posts!... but I digress, let's forget AK. Let's focus back: Krib
jumped in while we were discussing the fact that there was no american
terrorism, he (Krib) jumps in out of the blue, about the US sponsoring
the IRA (not that he cares really, he kisses the ***** of IRA KKKriSS WH),
which is proven not true of course, only a few individuals contribute to
some shadowy organization, not the US government, and since he has been
debunked about that, he has opened the insult level 200%. He has
sporadically been like that, out of the blue, and this is not an
acceptable attitude here. Maybe you have taken a liking to him because
he used to attack Tony or Dreamwalker as a sport, but now he is bored
and has to repeat the make up ***** about me.

Now maybe he is not really an anti-American *****, maybe he is just a
moron to come to the rescue of AK with his anti-American lies, I don't
know. I just tell you why I brand him that. I know he is looking for a
fight, even if he may not have real motives, if ever he is not anti-US
like you say.

Now, how to solve this? I don't know how I could even tell anything else
but to go puke a little more. He would have to apologize profusely and
promise to never be offensive against me ever again; with his ego 300
times bigger than his brain, there is no way this will happen. So forget

it.


Tw is another matter. Well both look for a fight, but tw is really
making up lies about jews.

What lies?

OR ELSE: YOU explain to me how he is not an
anti-semite

She already has - she has never seen me make an anti-semitic post, end of
story.
If you were a man, you'd apologise.

1. with the post you didn't reply to and

...whcih was full of typical Guernon twisting, lies and evasions.

2. with the other post what I show you and discuss here above.

...which was full of typical Guernon twisting, lies and evasions.

Thank you Dani.

.
User: "Cardinal Chunder"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 09:43:37 AM
tw wrote:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:yp3ed.1627041$yk.270350@news.easynews.com...

If you were a man, you'd apologise.

Jean ain't a man. He's a munchkin.
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 10:26:29 AM
Dream on chowder.
J.
Cardinal Chunder a écrit:

tw wrote:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:yp3ed.1627041$yk.270350@news.easynews.com...

If you were a man, you'd apologise.


Jean ain't a man. He's a munchkin.

.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 25 Oct 2004 03:36:52 AM
QED...
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:EE9ed.3740801$6p.625504@news.easynews.com...

Dream on chowder.

J.

Cardinal Chunder a écrit:

tw wrote:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:yp3ed.1627041$yk.270350@news.easynews.com...

If you were a man, you'd apologise.


Jean ain't a man. He's a munchkin.


.




User: "Krib"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 04:52:04 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:yp3ed.1627041$yk.270350@news.easynews.com...

About krib, this ***** will never get anything else from me but to go
puke. he is the one attacking me continually with lies totally
gratuitously and he is the worse poster here.

How amusing you are, try looking at your post that started this little
spat guernon, here's the link... (sorry if it wraps)
http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2709662591d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=m55%25c.101821%24A8.68778%40edtnps89
In this thread about "Europeans financing terror" I pointed out that
*some* (notice the emphasis on that word as this is the base of much
of your lies), Americans also supported terrorism through proscribed
organisations such as NORAID, INAC and others. You then accused me
of making up a slur and changinf the subject. You also accused me of
being a terrorist supporter based *solely* on my not including the
whole definition in your link to the word Jihad.
It kind of degenerated from there but in all of this mud slinging I have
provided my reasoning for my attack on you, you haven't because it's based
solely around your huge ego, you can never admit to being wrong so
you deliberately lie instead.

Maybe he kisses up to you by email,

I can honestly say I have no contact with anyone in this group other
than what's posted here but I notice your inferrence that Dani's post
is somehow influenced by something other than how she feels. You
insult her by insinuating that she has been put up to this.
You're disgusting.
You make constant accusations of collusion between myself and others
you also accuse of being "criminals" and "terrorist supporters",
which are more lies, that may be how *you* act guernon but I don't.

but he can kiss my ***** as far as I am concerned before I even read
any of his total debunked *****.

You have me mixed up with someone who cares what you say, I've seen
and read your lies, bigotry and ***** throughout all of these posts.
I used to sympathise with you about the amount of attacks others
hit you with but having been subject to your ***** I can see why they
fight back against it.

I thought it was impossible to be a little ***** and repeat lies over
and over again,

Yet you persist in doing it, why?

Ever saw him make a constructive post?

There are plenty, your hypocrisy is worth noting though, it seems *you*
are allowed to attack others in here because *you* don't agree with them
yet no-one else is allowed to. The majority of off topic posts in here are
you
or caused by you and your bigotry and lies guernon.

About his anti-americanism, I don't know,

No you don't, I'm more pro American than you are, I don't have a criminal
record like you do that requires a special waiver in order to enter the USA.
You want to deny that guernon?

while discussing about the fact that the US doesn't sponsor terrorism

with

the other loser AK who not only do like these pieces of ***** and make up

rumors,

he also made up several posts on sexual newsgroups BTW, impersonating

Michael, and

these two little shits tw and krib keep repeating the lies AK made up by
forging posts!...

You have only mcdonalds words that he didn't make those posts. He has a
history
of lies, weird behaviour, multiple 'nyms etc, indeed he used several to
attack me
and make disgusting slurs, why should I give him the benefit of the doubt?
The email address used was mcdonalds, he deleted the posts once they were
public, if he didn't make them why bother? If mcdonald knows AK made those
psts why not take legal redress?

but I digress, let's forget AK. Let's focus back: Krib
jumped in while we were discussing the fact that there was no american
terrorism, he (Krib) jumps in out of the blue, about the US sponsoring
the IRA

Another lie, I didn't say the US sponsors terrorism at all guernon.

(not that he cares really, he kisses the ***** of IRA KKKriSS WH),

Hmm I don't believe I do, nor is there anything to say he is/was a member
of the IRA, I believe that slur was tonyz's and, of course, you use it too
because he argues against your lies too. As for whether I care about the
IRA,
I served in NI fighting them, something *you* never had the guts to do
in your own war, so don't pretend to lecture me on my values.

which is proven not true of course, only a few individuals contribute to
some shadowy organization, not the US government, and since he has been
debunked about that, he has opened the insult level 200%.

Once again I never said the US government support the IRA, that's your lie
again, I've challenged you to show where I say it and you failed to, you'd
rather hide behind your lies and play with the thread headers than admit
you lied again.

Now, how to solve this? I don't know how I could even tell anything else
but to go puke a little more. He would have to apologize profusely and
promise to never be offensive against me ever again; with his ego 300
times bigger than his brain, there is no way this will happen. So forget

it.
Did I lie when I mentioned your reneging on your commitment to the USMC?
I brand you a coward because I believe you are, your cowardice is evident
in your behaviour then and your lies and behaviour in here.
I believe you to be a small minded bigot, a filthy dsigusting human who
is happy to read of innocent men, women and children being killed in
situations that are not of their making, of being a filthy racist especially
towards Muslims, (in fact anyone that isn't actually Jewish or American).
Those are my opinions, you don't like them tough. If you don't want me to
express them then keep your disgusting, vile opinions to yourself.
I told you before guernon, this is *not* your newsgroup, you have no say
in who can or can't post nor even what they can post about. You only have
the same rights as everyone else to debate people on their opinions but when
you start flinging ***** around stop bitching when someone throws it back.
--
krib
.
User: "eric davis"

Title: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 22 Oct 2004 02:08:29 PM
It's painfully noticeable over the years that many of the community of APN
have made Herculean efforts to reason with Guernon. What a Burden! What a
monumental Task! A noble effort to be sure. However, trying to reason with
the Village Idiot is like casting pearls before swine - A terrible, terrible
waste. No, the Village Idiot, like the Idiots of every Village, Town, or
City, is to be mocked, to be reviled on occassion, but mostly just to be
ignored - or left alone, as the Village Idiot would say "to &**&(%% wallow
in his own fartitude".
Works for me! ;-)
eric.
.
User: "Condor"

Title: Re: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 22 Oct 2004 02:28:13 PM

It's painfully noticeable over the years that many of the
community of APN have made Herculean efforts to reason
with Guernon. What a Burden! What a monumental Task! A
noble effort to be sure. However, trying to reason with
the Village Idiot is like casting pearls before swine - A
terrible, terrible waste. No, the Village Idiot, like the
Idiots of every Village, Town, or City, is to be mocked,
to be reviled on occassion, but mostly just to be ignored
- or left alone, as the Village Idiot would say "to
&**&(%% wallow in his own fartitude".

Works for me! ;-)

eric.


I totally agree. This place has turned into the Jean -
KRIB- TW forum and it sucks.
Condor
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 23 Oct 2004 11:48:54 AM
"Condor" <Condor@condor.com> wrote in message news:41795dee.4ac.41@news2...

I totally agree. This place has turned into the Jean -
KRIB- TW forum and it sucks.

I couldn't agree more, if you need help setting up a kill file to
include me and my posts then feel free to ask, I'd hate to be the
cause of you missing all of the important stuff being discussed in
here.
--
krib
.

User: "tw"

Title: Re: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 25 Oct 2004 03:13:03 AM
"Condor" <Condor@condor.com> wrote in message news:41795dee.4ac.41@news2...

It's painfully noticeable over the years that many of the
community of APN have made Herculean efforts to reason
with Guernon. What a Burden! What a monumental Task! A
noble effort to be sure. However, trying to reason with
the Village Idiot is like casting pearls before swine - A
terrible, terrible waste. No, the Village Idiot, like the
Idiots of every Village, Town, or City, is to be mocked,
to be reviled on occassion, but mostly just to be ignored
- or left alone, as the Village Idiot would say "to
&**&(%% wallow in his own fartitude".

Works for me! ;-)

eric.


I totally agree. This place has turned into the Jean -
KRIB- TW forum and it sucks.

Apologies for the inconvenience. May I suggets you set up a kill filter on
mine and Jean's names?
.


User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 25 Oct 2004 04:18:09 AM
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:08:29 -0700, "eric davis"
<ericdavis500@hotmail.com> wrote:

It's painfully noticeable over the years that many of the community of APN
have made Herculean efforts to reason with Guernon. What a Burden! What a
monumental Task! A noble effort to be sure. However, trying to reason with
the Village Idiot is like casting pearls before swine - A terrible, terrible
waste. No, the Village Idiot, like the Idiots of every Village, Town, or
City, is to be mocked, to be reviled on occassion, but mostly just to be
ignored - or left alone, as the Village Idiot would say "to &**&(%% wallow
in his own fartitude".

Works for me! ;-)

*nod*
.

User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 22 Oct 2004 01:22:22 PM
eric davis a écrit:

It's painfully noticeable over the years that many of the community of APN

The community of APN concerns those who have an interest in the
prophecies of Nostradamus, *****.
You are a little weasel here amongst other weasels.
There are the legitimate posters as well, but they despise assholes like
you.
Go wallow in your fartitude.
J.
.
User: "Barbarossa"

Title: Re: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 23 Oct 2004 12:07:44 PM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:ydced.3748232$6p.626631@news.easynews.com...



eric davis a écrit:

It's painfully noticeable over the years that many of the community of

APN


The community of APN concerns those who have an interest in the
prophecies of Nostradamus, *****.

Then why do you pollute this NG with posts which have nothing to do with
the quatrains of Nostradamus?

You are a little weasel here amongst other weasels.

Weasels are really funny and admirable animals where crocodiles like you
don't have anything about them that wants one to cuddle and hug them.

There are the legitimate posters as well, but they despise assholes like
you.

You are not a legitimate poster, you are just a liar who pollutes this NG.
Lies by JG:
1. Spain had never undergone muslimterrorism
2. European nations had only appeased and given in to terrorists
3. Only muslims commit atrocities and terror on innocent civillians.
4 Claiming that Nostradamus never used the word conspiracy in his
quatrains and then coming up with one..
5. Claiming that I had stopped smoking.
6. Claiming that I am an antisemite
7. Claiming that a certain conjunction only takes place once every
two years, but then also claiming that the event in the quatrain
takes place on either two dates separated by only 6 months.
8. Claiming that France is a weasel and appeased to terror, while
in fact France fought in Afghanistan as well as in Africa.
9.Claiming that Germany is the same and debunked by the same.
10. Claiming that UN SC resolution 1441 was a final resolution with
an ultimatum and a deadline. The resolution itself says that all
SC members would strive for peace and security in the region
and that further inspections should be reported and deliberated.
11. Claiming that Iraq would face "serious consequences" while the
UN SC resolution 1441 speaks of "grave consequences"
12. I never lie.
I keep counting.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Don't take the Village Idiot Seriously folks. 23 Oct 2004 03:27:31 PM
***** you with your repetition of your own debunked to the bone lies barbara.
J.
Barbarossa a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:ydced.3748232$6p.626631@news.easynews.com...


eric davis a écrit:


It's painfully noticeable over the years that many of the community of


APN

The community of APN concerns those who have an interest in the
prophecies of Nostradamus, *****.



Then why do you pollute this NG with posts which have nothing to do with
the quatrains of Nostradamus?


You are a little weasel here amongst other weasels.



Weasels are really funny and admirable animals where crocodiles like you
don't have anything about them that wants one to cuddle and hug them.


There are the legitimate posters as well, but they despise assholes like
you.



You are not a legitimate poster, you are just a liar who pollutes this NG.

Lies by JG:

1. Spain had never undergone muslimterrorism
2. European nations had only appeased and given in to terrorists
3. Only muslims commit atrocities and terror on innocent civillians.
4 Claiming that Nostradamus never used the word conspiracy in his
quatrains and then coming up with one..
5. Claiming that I had stopped smoking.
6. Claiming that I am an antisemite
7. Claiming that a certain conjunction only takes place once every
two years, but then also claiming that the event in the quatrain
takes place on either two dates separated by only 6 months.
8. Claiming that France is a weasel and appeased to terror, while
in fact France fought in Afghanistan as well as in Africa.
9.Claiming that Germany is the same and debunked by the same.
10. Claiming that UN SC resolution 1441 was a final resolution with
an ultimatum and a deadline. The resolution itself says that all
SC members would strive for peace and security in the region
and that further inspections should be reported and deliberated.
11. Claiming that Iraq would face "serious consequences" while the
UN SC resolution 1441 speaks of "grave consequences"
12. I never lie.

I keep counting.

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa


.




User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 05:33:14 AM
Krib a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:yp3ed.1627041$yk.270350@news.easynews.com...

About krib, this ***** will never get anything else from me but to go
puke. he is the one attacking me continually with lies totally
gratuitously and he is the worse poster here.



How amusing you are, try looking at your post that started this little
spat guernon, here's the link... (sorry if it wraps)
http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2709662591d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=m55%25c.101821%24A8.68778%40edtnps89

Well, in fact this is it:
http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=m55%25c.101821%24A8.68778%40edtnps89&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dg:thl2709662591d%26dq%3D%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26selm%3Dm55%2525c.101821%2524A8.68778%2540edtnps89
And well, it was Cuan the anti-US ***** in this thread, not AK.


In this thread about "Europeans financing terror" I pointed out that
*some* (notice the emphasis on that word as this is the base of much
of your lies), Americans also supported terrorism through proscribed
organisations such as NORAID, INAC and others. You then accused me
of making up a slur and changinf the subject. You also accused me of
being a terrorist supporter based *solely* on my not including the
whole definition in your link to the word Jihad.

The link shows that I post a link showing that Europeans government
support terror indirectly, and then Cuan pretends that it applies to the
US too, to which I tell him to prove it, since it is a lie. You come in
to support Cuan anti-US point of view that terror is US sponsored, and
pretend that there is NORAID and many other terrorist supporting
organizations exist within the USA, inferring the US supports them.
Then I ask you what you mean by that NORAID *****, some kind of
jihadists? To which you reply with your total ***** about Jihad seen by
the Jihadists not being about war at all, but being about struggle. Then
no matter how many times I show you otherwise with links, you just
pretended that the link pointed out to struggle. Now that is THICK since
the link which anyone can see conveys quite another story. Here it is:
http://lexicorient.com/cgi-bin/eo-direct-frame.pl?http://i-cias.com/e.o/jihad.htm


It kind of degenerated from there but in all of this mud slinging I have
provided my reasoning for my attack on you, you haven't because it's based
solely around your huge ego, you can never admit to being wrong so
you deliberately lie instead.

*****. Everyone can see it. You are the one who keeps lying about
anything discussed plus adding ***** lies about my personal life.
It is all documented.



Maybe he kisses up to you by email,



I can honestly say I have no contact with anyone in this group other
than what's posted here but I notice your inferrence that Dani's post
is somehow influenced by something other than how she feels. You
insult her by insinuating that she has been put up to this.
You're disgusting.

Nah, that she doesn't notice that you lie about my personal life in
every single one of your post bears to question.
Me I have always defended her when she was attacked by tony with lies
about her personal life, her, she doesn't even notice.
Now if she supports that you spread your TOTAL puke *****, then there
must be some explanation. And what is disgusting is CERTAINLY not me
questioning her logic, but then again, since you don't communicate
outside the NG, I must conclude that she acts gratuitously.
But I ask her still for a better explanation here. Dani?
J.
[snipped the rest of the total predictable *****. The gist of all of krib
hate mongering is above in the link to the thread I provide]
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 07:29:20 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Kl5ed.1634415$yk.271343@news.easynews.com...

How amusing you are, try looking at your post that started this little
spat guernon, here's the link... (sorry if it wraps)

http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2709662591d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=m55%25c.101821%24A8.68778%40edtnps89


Well, in fact this is it:

http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=m55%25c.101821%24A8.68778%40edtnps89&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dg:thl2709662591d%26dq%3D%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26selm%3Dm55%2525c.101821%2524A8.68778%2540edtnps89
They link to the same thread guernon. Your original post was dated 6 Sep
2004
and my first reply in that thread was to you on 7 Sep 2004 asking why you
don't whine about NORAID.

And well, it was Cuan the anti-US ***** in this thread, not AK.

So you were wrong yet again? you can't even keep your lies straight, is
it any wonder nothing you say has any value. You can't follow a simple
thread, you can barely read English, (you are so stupid you thought
NORAID meant NORAD remember?), all you do is react to certain
words like the small minded bigot you are.

You come in to support Cuan anti-US point of view that terror is US
sponsored,

Another lie. In that thread I challenged *you* directly because of your
stupid implication about Europeans financing terrorists, my point being that
while some do that some Americans, (and others) do as well yet your post
was directed solely at Europeans.
Indeed I did post to you again later after you asked Cuan to prove his
allegation as he made it, my reply to you was to do the same to all of
the lies and allegations you made. Nothing in there at all supporting Cuan's
points. So yet another lie of yours.

and pretend that there is NORAID and many other terrorist
supporting organizations exist within the USA,

No pretense at all, these organisations exist and their support has
been proved in British courts.

inferring the US supports them.

Your inference, not mine. Your lie guernon, I didn't say it.

Then I ask you what you mean by that NORAID *****, some kind of
jihadists? To which you reply with your total ***** about Jihad seen by
the Jihadists not being about war at all, but being about struggle.

Another lie. I told you that the literal translation of the word Jihad
means struggle that's even borne out by the link you provided. I never
said anything at all about the rest of this *****. Once again this is all
provided by your lies, it's all there in that thread guernon, quote where I
said any of this crap you're lying about here, you can't because I didn't.

Then no matter how many times I show you otherwise with links, you just
pretended that the link pointed out to struggle. Now that is THICK since
the link which anyone can see conveys quite another story. Here it is:

http://lexicorient.com/cgi-bin/eo-direct-frame.pl?http://i-cias.com/e.o/jihad.htm
Lie again. Feel free to quote where I denied what your link says. I was told
the
English translation of Jihad from a Muslim friend of mine, I thought that it
meant 'Holy War' (that seems to be how it is used in many English
newspapers),
and questioned him how we could hope for peace when Muslim fundamentalist
groups hide behind religious war, he took the time to show me the meaning as
laid
down in the Koran which is simply "struggle". You add what you want to it,
believe
whatever your favourite sites say, ( I necer denied you that), I'll believe
what I
learn. That still does not make me a "terrorist supporter" because we differ
over
the meaning of a word, (well... except to a filthy bigot like you anyway).

*****. Everyone can see it. You are the one who keeps lying about
anything discussed plus adding ***** lies about my personal life.

You didn't join the USMC did you? that's not a lie.
You have a record for taking drugs don't you?
As for your character defects, I call them as I see them, they stand.

It is all documented.

Point them out then. Show me these lies, at the same time show me where I
support "the horror", how I'm insane, a criminal, a terrorist supporter, a
coward, dishonourable, a traitor, and all the other lies you keep spouting.
Come on then filthy *****, show me. Don't make up stories like you keep
doing above, show me... can you? I bet you can't, you keep making stuff
up just like you do against TW and others in here.

I can honestly say I have no contact with anyone in this group other
than what's posted here but I notice your inferrence that Dani's post
is somehow influenced by something other than how she feels. You
insult her by insinuating that she has been put up to this.
You're disgusting.


Nah, that she doesn't notice that you lie about my personal life in
every single one of your post bears to question.

Then keep your filthy fat mouth shut about other people and maybe you
won't get your same treatment thrown back at you.

Me I have always defended her when she was attacked by tony with lies
about her personal life, her, she doesn't even notice.

Wrong again, I believe Dani has made a lot of posts defending you against
others, she also treats you with respect and deference as did I until you
started this ***** accusing me of making a smear against the US. If you
had any sense you'd leave Dani out of this before you treat her the same.

Now if she supports that you spread your TOTAL puke *****, then there
must be some explanation. And what is disgusting is CERTAINLY not me
questioning her logic, but then again, since you don't communicate
outside the NG, I must conclude that she acts gratuitously.

What I said was disgusting is your inference that Dani's post was
influenced by someone else and not from her own motives, perhaps
she's fed up with all of the stupidity these posts generate, maybe she's
sick at seeing you treated this way, whatever motivated her is her
business it's not for you or anyone else to question her motives.

[snipped the rest of the total predictable *****. The gist of all of krib
hate mongering is above in the link to the thread I provide]

Care to remember how I apologised to you for calling you a traitor
when you showed you hadn't taken the oath? care to remember how
I apologised to you when I misread that Saddam had planned another
9-11? I'm willing to admit my mistakes guernon, you aren't it's part of
your disgusting character, your ego outshines your intellect and you're
too stupid to see that.
I'll challenge you yet again to show where I support terrorism, am anti
American, or any of your other lies. I'll assume it will not happen because
I never said any of those lies you put down to me.
I suppose it won't be long before you start playing with these headers too,
that's all that's left to you when you're backed into a corner.
--
krib
.

User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 08:20:48 AM
Jean Guernon a écrit:



Krib a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:yp3ed.1627041$yk.270350@news.easynews.com...

About krib, this ***** will never get anything else from me but to go
puke. he is the one attacking me continually with lies totally
gratuitously and he is the worse poster here.




How amusing you are, try looking at your post that started this little
spat guernon, here's the link... (sorry if it wraps)
http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2709662591d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&selm=m55%25c.101821%24A8.68778%40edtnps89



Well, in fact this is it:
http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=m55%25c.101821%24A8.68778%40edtnps89&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dg:thl2709662591d%26dq%3D%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26selm%3Dm55%2525c.101821%2524A8.68778%2540edtnps89


And well, it was Cuan the anti-US ***** in this thread, not AK.


In this thread about "Europeans financing terror" I pointed out that
*some* (notice the emphasis on that word as this is the base of much
of your lies), Americans also supported terrorism through proscribed<
organisations such as NORAID, INAC and others. You then accused me

BTW even if you just replied to that post, that is a lie too.
Europeans supporting terror means Europeans countries in that context.
What you said was not "some" Americans, and one has to look it in the
context, which is European countries, what you said was: "I don't see
you whining about NORAID Jean nor any of the several other terrorist
supporting organizations within the USA, why's that?"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=8Le%25c.163%24ov.4%40newsfe6-gui.ntli.net
Hey, no INAC? Gee... another lie.
Now of course this post would automatically address America as a
supporter of terrorism,. and not "some" American, but the US doesn'T
tolerate terrorist organizations. They chase them down.
And anyway, again, this link was about European countries, not
individuals. What you said in context was that the US tolerated
terrorist organizations and that NORAID backed the IRA, yet you went
right ahead and wallow with KKKriSS, an IRA militant.
But you added other organizations. Anyway, in the context this was
virtually saying that America also supported terrorism. Not "some"
Americans, which is the point. You canNOT prove that America support
terrorism anyway. America hunts down terrorists.
And your false excuse for jihadists and ignoring on purpose when shown
their ultimate and prevailing goals right after showed to me your own
support.
Now if you wish to reconsider all that and tell the truth from that
point on, you are free to do that. Either way, the personal attacks are
lies that are intolerable and that still require you to apologize.
Otherwise, you know what the headers will say. You two are the worst
parasites here. Barbarossa also make up lies and post them over and over
even when debunked, but they are about posts, they can be shown to be
lies. You make up ***** about others personal lives, not only me, but you
also make up ***** about Michael McDonald you know is fabricated. You are
two worms here and AK of course.
So anyway, all you Krib said above is lies, anyone with a brain can see
that, and if you can't, or won't, see and admit that, it doesn't change
that fact.
J.

of making up a slur and changinf the subject. You also accused me of
being a terrorist supporter based *solely* on my not including the
whole definition in your link to the word Jihad.



The link shows that I post a link showing that Europeans government
support terror indirectly, and then Cuan pretends that it applies to the
US too, to which I tell him to prove it, since it is a lie. You come in
to support Cuan anti-US point of view that terror is US sponsored, and
pretend that there is NORAID and many other terrorist supporting
organizations exist within the USA, inferring the US supports them.

Then I ask you what you mean by that NORAID *****, some kind of
jihadists? To which you reply with your total ***** about Jihad seen by
the Jihadists not being about war at all, but being about struggle. Then
no matter how many times I show you otherwise with links, you just
pretended that the link pointed out to struggle. Now that is THICK since
the link which anyone can see conveys quite another story. Here it is:
http://lexicorient.com/cgi-bin/eo-direct-frame.pl?http://i-cias.com/e.o/jihad.htm



It kind of degenerated from there but in all of this mud slinging I have
provided my reasoning for my attack on you, you haven't because it's
based
solely around your huge ego, you can never admit to being wrong so
you deliberately lie instead.



*****. Everyone can see it. You are the one who keeps lying about
anything discussed plus adding ***** lies about my personal life.

It is all documented.



Maybe he kisses up to you by email,




I can honestly say I have no contact with anyone in this group other
than what's posted here but I notice your inferrence that Dani's post
is somehow influenced by something other than how she feels. You
insult her by insinuating that she has been put up to this.
You're disgusting.



Nah, that she doesn't notice that you lie about my personal life in
every single one of your post bears to question.

Me I have always defended her when she was attacked by tony with lies
about her personal life, her, she doesn't even notice.

Now if she supports that you spread your TOTAL puke *****, then there
must be some explanation. And what is disgusting is CERTAINLY not me
questioning her logic, but then again, since you don't communicate
outside the NG, I must conclude that she acts gratuitously.

But I ask her still for a better explanation here. Dani?

J.

[snipped the rest of the total predictable *****. The gist of all of krib
hate mongering is above in the link to the thread I provide]

.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 11:06:58 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:QO7ed.3736831$6p.624905@news.easynews.com...

In this thread about "Europeans financing terror" I pointed out that
*some* (notice the emphasis on that word as this is the base of much
of your lies), Americans also supported terrorism through proscribed<
organisations such as NORAID, INAC and others. You then accused me


BTW even if you just replied to that post, that is a lie too.

Ah I see you're now completely avoiding my response in the other thread,
why's
that guernon? can't answer the facts again? So let's look at your
interminable
***** here shall we?

Europeans supporting terror means Europeans countries in that context.

Your thread, you decide what it means, I assumed you meant *some* Europeans,
(the peoples), because even someone as stupid as you must know that not all
Europeans support terrorists. You're now saying you mean that all European
nations support terrorists? LOL ok, if *you* say so guernon.

What you said was not "some" Americans, and one has to look it in the
context, which is European countries, what you said was: "I don't see
you whining about NORAID Jean nor any of the several other terrorist
supporting organizations within the USA, why's that?"

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=8Le%25c.163%24ov.4%40newsfe6-gui.ntli.net
True that's what I said. However I'm not so stupid as to assume that
everyone
in America is a member of NORAID or any of the other organisations over
there that do support terrorism. If you assume that, well that's *your*
problem
guernon, don't put your stupid ideas into my words though.

Hey, no INAC? Gee... another lie.

True again, I did say "NORAID Jean nor any of the several other terrorist
supporting organizations" however and in the next post linked to an INAC
site
amongst others. I also said " As for my "slur" I assume you're referring to
my
mentioning that some Americans have been financing terrorism for decades,
it's
a fact not a slur" Note the use of the qualifier *some* in there guernon.

Now of course this post would automatically address America as a
supporter of terrorism,. and not "some" American,

Maybe to you but then you've shown a renarkable ability to read
whatever you want into someone else's posts. All through these
threads I was careful to qualify that I meant *some* and never *all*
yet you still lie as you do, why do you do that guernon?

but the US doesn'T tolerate terrorist organizations.
They chase them down.

I believe that many people would differ with you on this, I guess
it depends on ones viewpoint, but certainly I never said the US government
supports terrorism, you lied again about that.

And anyway, again, this link was about European countries, not
individuals. What you said in context was that the US tolerated
terrorist organizations and that NORAID backed the IRA,

Your inference, not what I said at all. I can't help what you are so stupid
as to read into my words guernon, besides I cleared that misconception up
several times yet you still lie about it even now.

yet you went right ahead and wallow with KKKriSS,

Show me a link where I do this.

an IRA militant.

I beleive WH denied being part of that organisation, I have seen nothing
to cause me to believe otherwise guernon. You think I'd take the word of
someone like tonyz or *you* as evidence? LOL, wouldn't happen.

But you added other organizations.

I said organisationS in my first post, even to a pathetic simpleton like you
that must imply plurality, you asked for links I gave you some. The fact is
there are several organisations in the USA that support terrorism, you can't
or won't believe that because of your own stupisity, that's your problem not
mine.

Anyway, in the context this was virtually saying that America also

supported

terrorism.

That's your definition, after the fact, that's not how it reads nor how I
said it.
Don't put your meanings on my words, if it's unclear ask and I'll clarify my
meaning for you. Besides, many times I have stated that I said and meant
*some*
Americans, so stop your ***** lies.

Not "some" Americans, which is the point. You canNOT prove that America

support

terrorism anyway. America hunts down terrorists.

That some American organisations support terror has been proven, even if you
ignore groups that support external agencies there are many that support
internal terror. Try getting your head out of your arse and actually
learning
something about the country you pretend to defend you idiot.

And your false excuse for jihadists and ignoring on purpose when shown
their ultimate and prevailing goals right after showed to me your own
support.

Another lie then. I said all along that the word Jihad translates literally
to struggle in english, nothing else. You're the one that went off on some
stupid tangent, I even agreed that Muslim fanatics hide behind Jihad as
an excuse. Your whole point was because I didn't quote your whole link that
made me a terrorist supporter which is just stupid.

Now if you wish to reconsider all that and tell the truth from that
point on, you are free to do that.

Pity you don't follow your own advice. It's a pity you keep running from my
points and keep plying these lies. Try revisiting the previous part of this
thread
I answered and respond to my points there you disgusting cowardly *****.

Either way, the personal attacks are lies that are intolerable

Like "criminally insane"? "terrorist supporter"? and all of the
other ones you use?

and that still require you to apologize.

After you guernon.

Otherwise, you know what the headers will say.

You play your game guernon I don't care, I'll guarantee you'll tire of this
before I do ;0)

You make up ***** about others personal lives, not only me, but you
also make up ***** about Michael McDonald you know is fabricated.

I don't *know* that at all as I explained in the post you're hiding from
you gutless piece of *****. As for you, you're a cowardly pig who ran away
from your commitment to the USMC, care to deny that? You have a criminal
record because of your drug usage in the past, care to deny that? Was your
arrest for possession or was it dealing guernon? that would be interesting
to
know. Do you care to deny you can't enter the USA without a special waiver?
Want to answer them now you cowardly piece of *****?
I note also that you ran away from an On Topic question about Catholicism
and the seer, why's that guernon?
I note you ***** constantly about Off Topic posts yet you started the thread
about Europeans financing terror.
Your lies, your hypocrisy, your stupidity have all been proven, so why are
you
whining about your privacy?

So anyway, all you Krib said above is lies,

Says you, and look at what a despicable, lowlife, cowardly piece of ***** you
are.
Now run away and start another thread you yellow *****, I have no doubt
you're
unable to answer anything in these two.
--
krib
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Krib TOTALLY EXPOSED!!! Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 22 Oct 2004 01:18:44 PM
Krib a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:QO7ed.3736831$6p.624905@news.easynews.com...


In this thread about "Europeans financing terror" I pointed out that
*some* (notice the emphasis on that word as this is the base of much
of your lies), Americans also supported terrorism through proscribed<


organisations such as NORAID, INAC and others. You then accused me


BTW even if you just replied to that post, that is a lie too.



Ah I see you're now completely avoiding my response in the other thread,
why's
that guernon? can't answer the facts again? So let's look at your
interminable
***** here shall we?

Liar.


Europeans supporting terror means Europeans countries in that context.



Your thread, you decide what it means, I assumed you meant *some* Europeans,
(the peoples), because even someone as stupid as you must know that not all
Europeans support terrorists. You're now saying you mean that all European
nations support terrorists? LOL ok, if *you* say so guernon.

No, EU represents the governments of these countries loser. This is what
you replied to, loser.



What you said was not "some" Americans, and one has to look it in the
context, which is European countries, what you said was: "I don't see
you whining about NORAID Jean nor any of the several other terrorist
supporting organizations within the USA, why's that?"


http://www.google.com/groups?selm=8Le%25c.163%24ov.4%40newsfe6-gui.ntli.net

True that's what I said. However I'm not so stupid as to assume that
everyone
in America is a member of NORAID or any of the other organisations over
there that do support terrorism. If you assume that, well that's *your*
problem
guernon, don't put your stupid ideas into my words though.

Nah, you replies to a thread about governments sponsoring terrorism,
loser. your comprehension skills are faulty, loser.


Hey, no INAC? Gee... another lie.



True again, I did say "NORAID Jean nor any of the several other terrorist
supporting organizations" however and in the next post linked to an INAC
site
amongst others. I also said " As for my "slur" I assume you're referring to
my
mentioning that some Americans have been financing terrorism for decades,
it's
a fact not a slur" Note the use of the qualifier *some* in there guernon.

Well the thread I started was about EU sponsoring palestinian terrorism.
Not SOME Europeans, governments composing the EU.


Now of course this post would automatically address America as a
supporter of terrorism,. and not "some" American,



Maybe to you but then you've shown a renarkable ability to read
whatever you want into someone else's posts. All through these
threads I was careful to qualify that I meant *some* and never *all*
yet you still lie as you do, why do you do that guernon?

Lie.



but the US doesn'T tolerate terrorist organizations.
They chase them down.



I believe that many people would differ with you on this, I guess
it depends on ones viewpoint, but certainly I never said the US government
supports terrorism, you lied again about that.


Well, you didn't say otherwise either, your reply was to a statement
about governments, and you said Americans too, not specifying you meant
some Americans not America as a state.

And anyway, again, this link was about European countries, not
individuals. What you said in context was that the US tolerated
terrorist organizations and that NORAID backed the IRA,



Your inference, not what I said at all. I can't help what you are so stupid
as to read into my words guernon, besides I cleared that misconception up
several times yet you still lie about it even now.

What is is a lie in the above statement? You can't deny any of what I
just said.


yet you went right ahead and wallow with KKKriSS,



Show me a link where I do this.

http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=UGc3d.1350%24Sb1.899%40newsfe5-win.ntli.net


an IRA militant.



I beleive WH denied being part of that organisation, I have seen nothing
to cause me to believe otherwise guernon. You think I'd take the word of
someone like tonyz or *you* as evidence? LOL, wouldn't happen.

Well this seems to say he meant something else. You tell me since you
would know what "Na Fianna Eireann" means:
http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=a9i4cd%2472l%241%40green.tninet.se


But you added other organizations.



I said organisationS in my first post, even to a pathetic simpleton like you
that must imply plurality, you asked for links I gave you some. The fact is
there are several organisations in the USA that support terrorism, you can't
or won't believe that because of your own stupisity, that's your problem not
mine.

Bah, the FBI is actively researching and pursuing any such
organization(s). They don't exist long in the US if they are real
terrorists.



Anyway, in the context this was virtually saying that America also


supported

terrorism.



That's your definition, after the fact, that's not how it reads nor how I
said it.
Don't put your meanings on my words, if it's unclear ask and I'll clarify my
meaning for you. Besides, many times I have stated that I said and meant
*some*
Americans, so stop your ***** lies.

Well the thread was about America supporting terrorists like countries
in Europe do.


Not "some" Americans, which is the point. You canNOT prove that America


support

terrorism anyway. America hunts down terrorists.



That some American organisations support terror has been proven, even if you
ignore groups that support external agencies there are many that support
internal terror. Try getting your head out of your arse and actually
learning
something about the country you pretend to defend you idiot.

You see, if you can prove that, you make them disappear since terrorism
is NOT supported by America.


And your false excuse for jihadists and ignoring on purpose when shown
their ultimate and prevailing goals right after showed to me your own
support.



Another lie then. I said all along that the word Jihad translates literally
to struggle in english, nothing else. You're the one that went off on some
stupid tangent, I even agreed that Muslim fanatics hide behind Jihad as
an excuse. Your whole point was because I didn't quote your whole link that
made me a terrorist supporter which is just stupid.

Not true, you specifically discussed the jihadists link I provided and
minimized what it clearly stated, i.e. a war against non Muslim which is
the struggle, as saying that this link said it is a mere struggle.
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=kIz%25c.23%24wa6.6%40newsfe1-gui.ntli.net


Now if you wish to reconsider all that and tell the truth from that
point on, you are free to do that.



Pity you don't follow your own advice. It's a pity you keep running from my
points and keep plying these lies. Try revisiting the previous part of this
thread
I answered and respond to my points there you disgusting cowardly *****.

Yourself. All of that.


Either way, the personal attacks are lies that are intolerable



Like "criminally insane"? "terrorist supporter"? and all of the
other ones you use?

These are about your public statement, not your personal life, jimbo.


and that still require you to apologize.



After you guernon.

Nah, me I am not at fault.



Otherwise, you know what the headers will say.



You play your game guernon I don't care, I'll guarantee you'll tire of this
before I do ;0)


You make up ***** about others personal lives, not only me, but you
also make up ***** about Michael McDonald you know is fabricated.



I don't *know* that at all as I explained in the post you're hiding from
you gutless piece of *****.

Well it is a fact. the post were all from teranews and only AK post
under that news server on this NG and of course it is from him. Anyone
with half a brain would know that. But you still will say you don't
know, yet you keep repeating the lie about someone private life as if
you knew. But what am I saying, you keep repeating lies about my
personal life. So why would I be surprised.
I just see that you are a piece of ***** no matter what excuse you try to
give.
Why even bother speaking with a pig like you. No excuse? Continuing
speaking or lying about my personal life? You will get the only
treatment you deserve. the puke treatment. *****.
J.
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: Krib TOTALLY EXPOSED!!! Re: First reply to this DANI. Re: Some advice.. 23 Oct 2004 12:20:50 PM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:8aced.3156689$ic1.325250@news.easynews.com...

Ah I see you're now completely avoiding my response in the other thread,
why's that guernon? can't answer the facts again? So let's look at your
interminable ***** here shall we?

Liar.

I'd ask you to show me where but you'll run away as usual and I won't
take your word for anything guernon so that's just too bad isn't it.

No, EU represents the governments of these countries loser. This is what
you replied to, loser.

Your thread title said "Europeans financing terror?" and in your last post
you said you didn't mean Europeans but European countries, now you're
saying the EU, (by which I assume you mean the parliamentary body that
represents *some* of the European countries). All I see is you changing
your story in your desperation to backup your lies. I responded to your
claim that Europeans, (as people), finance terrorism with the answer
that so do some Americans in the form of terrorist supporting groups,
no matter how you attempt to twist your lies guernon that's what I said.

Nah, you replies to a thread about governments sponsoring terrorism,
loser. your comprehension skills are faulty, loser.

Maybe my comprehension skills are at fault but I explained to you what
I was responding to. Don't put your filthy meaning into my words, they
are there in google to read as they are typed not how *you* want them to
appear.

Well the thread I started was about EU sponsoring palestinian terrorism.
Not SOME Europeans, governments composing the EU.

Actually your thread said "Europeans" guernon. Even the PDF file you
linked to doesn't jump to that conclusion, (that the EU is deliberately
sponsoring terrorism), it boils down to their donations, (amongst others),
are not as tightly accounted for as the group that created the report
would like. Your source, like yourself, is highly bigoted. Once again,
don't apply your stupid logic to my words, I meant what they say.

Maybe to you but then you've shown a renarkable ability to read
whatever you want into someone else's posts. All through these
threads I was careful to qualify that I meant *some* and never *all*
yet you still lie as you do, why do you do that guernon?


Lie.

What's a lie, your stupidity to read what you want into a sentence?
Look at the ***** you're making up now, look at how you mistook noraId
for norad two completely different bodies. As for my using the qualifier
*some* in this post linked here ...
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=kIz%25c.23%24wa6.6%40newsfe1-gui.ntli.net&output=gplain
I said " As for my "slur" I assume you're referring to my mentioning that
some Americans have been financing terrorism for decades" if you can't
see the word some in there that's your problem. Throughout this whole
discussion I have stressed I meant some and never meant all Americans.
You perpetuate this lie because you can't stand to be proved wrong.
Had I ever said *all* Americans you'd be able to link to it, you can't
so instead you're now twisting the meaning of everything said in your
desperate attempt to keep your lies alive.

I believe that many people would differ with you on this, I guess
it depends on ones viewpoint, but certainly I never said the US

government

supports terrorism, you lied again about that.

Well, you didn't say otherwise either, your reply was to a statement
about governments, and you said Americans too, not specifying you meant
some Americans not America as a state.

That link above proves you lie here. It says *some* and I've used that
term throughout this discussion.

And anyway, again, this link was about European countries, not
individuals. What you said in context was that the US tolerated
terrorist organizations and that NORAID backed the IRA,

Your inference, not what I said at all. I can't help what you are so

stupid

as to read into my words guernon, besides I cleared that misconception

up

several times yet you still lie about it even now.

What is is a lie in the above statement? You can't deny any of what I
just said.

You're changinf the context of what I said to suit your lie. I never said
anything about the US government nor can I control how you interpret
what I write. Your stupidity is your problem guernon not mine. How many
times and different ways do I need to tell you not to interpret what I write
but to read what I write?

yet you went right ahead and wallow with KKKriSS,

Show me a link where I do this.


http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=UGc3d.1350%24Sb1.899%40newsfe5-win.ntli.net
How old are you again? I responded to a thread he created, if that's your
logic
then you are "wallowing" with me you stupid *****. I expect that kind of
stupidity from mcdonald not from you. You have a problem with WH that's
too bad, I don't consider responding to anyone as anything more than that.
Once again you twist reality to suit your lies guernon.

Well this seems to say he meant something else. You tell me since you
would know what "Na Fianna Eireann" means:

http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=a9i4cd%2472l%241%40green.tninet.se

Neither Sinn Fein nor Na Fianna Eireann are illegal organisations and unless
WH himself wants to say he's been part of one I'll continue to give him the
benefit of the doubt. Knowing how you and tony twist and lie so much I
certainly
wouldn't accept anything you say as truth.

I said organisationS in my first post, even to a pathetic simpleton like

you

that must imply plurality, you asked for links I gave you some. The fact

is

there are several organisations in the USA that support terrorism, you

can't

or won't believe that because of your own stupisity, that's your problem

not

mine.


Bah, the FBI is actively researching and pursuing any such
organization(s). They don't exist long in the US if they are real
terrorists.

Look how you're twisting what's been said again. From organisations that
support terrorists you're now talking about terrorist organisations, to
you they may be the same thing but outside of guernonland they're not.
the fact is there are still organisations in the USA that actively support,
(usually by fund raising but there are other more covert ways), groups
away from the continental USA that are classed as terrorist organisations,
accept that or not, you have a lot of problems with reality so tough.

Well the thread was about America supporting terrorists like countries
in Europe do.

You've changed the context again. Above you were claiming it is the EU that
supports them now it's "countries" again. You can't keep your story
straight.
There probably are many groups in Europe that give support in this way but,
like the USA, this is not common nor is it acceptable to the majority of law
abiding citizens.

That some American organisations support terror has been proven, even if

you

ignore groups that support external agencies there are many that support
internal terror.

You see, if you can prove that, you make them disappear since terrorism
is NOT supported by America.

How will they be made to "disappear" if they are not actually breaking any
laws in their own country? They're hardly going to announce what they do
are they? even you are so stupid to believe the utter crap on NORAID's
website that you believed they fight the IRA, moron.

Another lie then. I said all along that the word Jihad translates

literally

to struggle in english, nothing else. You're the one that went off on

some

stupid tangent, I even agreed that Muslim fanatics hide behind Jihad as
an excuse. Your whole point was because I didn't quote your whole link

that

made me a terrorist supporter which is just stupid.

Not true, you specifically discussed the jihadists link I provided and
minimized what it clearly stated, i.e. a war against non Muslim which is
the struggle, as saying that this link said it is a mere struggle.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=kIz%25c.23%24wa6.6%40newsfe1-gui.ntli.net
No I didn't, once again you're twisting what I said. In this post...
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=kIz%25c.23%24wa6.6%40newsfe1-gui.ntli.net&output=gplain
I said " Which says "Arabic for 'battle; struggle; holy war for the
religion" which,
as I said, the word Jihad translates literally to struggle how is that
changing the
subject?" after your ***** started accusing me of slurring the US and
changing
the subject.
You then replied with " Nah, more like duty, it still translate by war
against all
non-Muslim until they submit to them, or convert, as if this would happen.
LOL"
I don't see you whining there about the term I used, this is something you
dreamt
up later to carry on your lies.
Incidentally the meaning for the term Jihad appears to depend on where you
look to get it translated, try these links and see what they say...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4758
http://www.islamanswers.net/jihad/meaning.htm
http://www.irshad.org/islam/iiie/iiie_18.htm
http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa022201a.htm
Of course being the small minded bigot you are, you'll stick to the one that
suits your intolerance best.

Either way, the personal attacks are lies that are intolerable

Like "criminally insane"? "terrorist supporter"? and all of the
other ones you use?

These are about your public statement, not your personal life, jimbo.

*****, you throw these terms about like confetti. I have fought against
terrorists in NI, the gulf and elsewhere, (as have a few others in here),
and
I take those disgusting slurs personally and for you to pretend they weren't
meant that way is just more *****. Your lies never cease guernon.

and that still require you to apologize.

After you guernon.

Nah, me I am not at fault.

Of course not, you'e a legend in your own mind aren't you guernon, the
'worlds
greatest exegete', the defender of all things American, the righteous
warrior
of APN... well truth is guernon you're a disgusting piece of ***** who throws
your filthy lies, bigotry, racism and intolerance around as if they're
pronouncements
from Heaven, and expects everyone to accept