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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "Leigh_Bee"
Date: 29 Nov 2003 04:43:56 PM
Object: Spain and Iraq
Having just listened to the news which has just reported, some Spanish
deaths in Iraq, Well I have considered this Q before and wondered how
it fits in relation to these two countries.
C7Q22. The citizens of Mesopotamia 1 , angry with their friends from
Catalonia 2; games, rites, banquets, every person asleep, the vicar at
the Rhône, the city taken and those of Ausonia 3.
1 Mesopatamia = Tigris Euphrates or Rhone Durance
2 Catalonia = town of Tarragona or Spain
3 Ausonia = Southern Italy Naples
XXII. Les citoyens de Mesopotamie 2, Irez 3 encontre amis de
Tarraconne 4, Jeux, rites, banquets, toute gent endormie Vicaire au
Rosne, pris cité, ceux d'Ausone.
2 Mesopotamie = Greek meso potamos between two rivers
3 Irez = Latin Iratus angry
4 Tarracone = Tarragona Catalonia or Iberia
Just for reference a Leoni commentary:
CVIIQ 22. Mesopotamia is used several times by Nostradamus, but it is
still not certain what territory he had in mind. It is obvious that he
is not referring to the original territory in Asia; some European area
must be sought. The Venaissin, lying between the Rhone and the
Durance, where they form a small angle, seems the best answer.
Tarragona is a port of Catalonia in northeast Spain. The vicar of line
4 probably refers to the Pope. The only fulfillment came in 1799, when
Pope Pius VI was taken to Valence and died there. Ausonia seems to be
used for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. The application to the
1790's seems the best possible. The French invaded Catalonia in 1795.
Nostradamus may have had in mind the Roman province Hispania
Tarraconensis, considering it as corresponding roughly to Catalonia,
rather than the city of Tarragona. If the first part of line 4 is
applied to the death of Pius VI at Valence in 1799, there is also an
application for the second part. Repelling a Neapolitan attack made on
France's satellite Roman Republic in November, 1798, a French army
under General Championnet recaptured Rome and then went on to the
Kingdom of Naples in January, 1799.
.

User: "Mark Tyme"

Title: Re: Spain and Iraq 29 Nov 2003 06:04:10 PM
Leigh B., you are amazing. Ergo est.
On 29 Nov 2003 14:43:56 -0800,
(Leigh_Bee)
wrote:

Having just listened to the news which has just reported, some Spanish
deaths in Iraq, Well I have considered this Q before and wondered how
it fits in relation to these two countries.

C7Q22. The citizens of Mesopotamia 1 , angry with their friends from
Catalonia 2; games, rites, banquets, every person asleep, the vicar at
the Rhône, the city taken and those of Ausonia 3.
1 Mesopatamia = Tigris Euphrates or Rhone Durance
2 Catalonia = town of Tarragona or Spain
3 Ausonia = Southern Italy Naples
XXII. Les citoyens de Mesopotamie 2, Irez 3 encontre amis de
Tarraconne 4, Jeux, rites, banquets, toute gent endormie Vicaire au
Rosne, pris cité, ceux d'Ausone.
2 Mesopotamie = Greek meso potamos between two rivers
3 Irez = Latin Iratus angry
4 Tarracone = Tarragona Catalonia or Iberia

Just for reference a Leoni commentary:

CVIIQ 22. Mesopotamia is used several times by Nostradamus, but it is
still not certain what territory he had in mind. It is obvious that he
is not referring to the original territory in Asia; some European area
must be sought. The Venaissin, lying between the Rhone and the
Durance, where they form a small angle, seems the best answer.
Tarragona is a port of Catalonia in northeast Spain. The vicar of line
4 probably refers to the Pope. The only fulfillment came in 1799, when
Pope Pius VI was taken to Valence and died there. Ausonia seems to be
used for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. The application to the
1790's seems the best possible. The French invaded Catalonia in 1795.
Nostradamus may have had in mind the Roman province Hispania
Tarraconensis, considering it as corresponding roughly to Catalonia,
rather than the city of Tarragona. If the first part of line 4 is
applied to the death of Pius VI at Valence in 1799, there is also an
application for the second part. Repelling a Neapolitan attack made on
France's satellite Roman Republic in November, 1798, a French army
under General Championnet recaptured Rome and then went on to the
Kingdom of Naples in January, 1799.

.

User: ""

Title: Re: Spain and Iraq 30 Nov 2003 07:00:12 AM
On 29 Nov 2003 14:43:56 -0800,
(Leigh_Bee)
wrote:

Having just listened to the news which has just reported, some Spanish
deaths in Iraq, Well I have considered this Q before and wondered how
it fits in relation to these two countries.

C7Q22. The citizens of Mesopotamia 1 , angry with their friends from
Catalonia 2; games, rites, banquets, every person asleep, the vicar at
the Rhône, the city taken and those of Ausonia 3.
1 Mesopatamia = Tigris Euphrates or Rhone Durance
2 Catalonia = town of Tarragona or Spain
3 Ausonia = Southern Italy Naples
XXII. Les citoyens de Mesopotamie 2, Irez 3 encontre amis de
Tarraconne 4, Jeux, rites, banquets, toute gent endormie Vicaire au
Rosne, pris cité, ceux d'Ausone.
2 Mesopotamie = Greek meso potamos between two rivers
3 Irez = Latin Iratus angry
4 Tarracone = Tarragona Catalonia or Iberia

Just for reference a Leoni commentary:

CVIIQ 22. Mesopotamia is used several times by Nostradamus, but it is
still not certain what territory he had in mind. It is obvious that he
is not referring to the original territory in Asia; some European area
must be sought. The Venaissin, lying between the Rhone and the
Durance, where they form a small angle, seems the best answer.
Tarragona is a port of Catalonia in northeast Spain. The vicar of line
4 probably refers to the Pope. The only fulfillment came in 1799, when
Pope Pius VI was taken to Valence and died there. Ausonia seems to be
used for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. The application to the
1790's seems the best possible. The French invaded Catalonia in 1795.
Nostradamus may have had in mind the Roman province Hispania
Tarraconensis, considering it as corresponding roughly to Catalonia,
rather than the city of Tarragona. If the first part of line 4 is
applied to the death of Pius VI at Valence in 1799, there is also an
application for the second part. Repelling a Neapolitan attack made on
France's satellite Roman Republic in November, 1798, a French army
under General Championnet recaptured Rome and then went on to the
Kingdom of Naples in January, 1799.

Hahahah. All of Nostradamas ***** was written so that it can only
be understood after the events have happened. You idiots should find a
life and go with the flow, whatever happens happens. Nosty was trained
in the ancient ways by the free masons, himself being one. All of his
quatrains are in Esoteric and Green speech.
"life is like a mushroom, they feed you ***** and keep you in the dark"
.
User: "Gary Somai"

Title: Re: Spain and Iraq 30 Nov 2003 09:31:26 AM
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:00:12 -0500,
wrote:

Nosty was trained
in the ancient ways by the free masons, himself being one. All of his
quatrains are in Esoteric and Green speech.


Very interesting statement, Dorky!
Can you provide any evidence to support it, or was this statement of
yours a guess?
Gary S

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User: "Gary Somai"

Title: Re: Spain and Iraq 02 Dec 2003 04:25:44 PM
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:31:26 +0000, Gary Somai
<gary@Xplaceoftheskull.com> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:00:12 -0500,

wrote:


Nosty was trained
in the ancient ways by the free masons, himself being one. All of his
quatrains are in Esoteric and Green speech.



Very interesting statement, Dorky!

Can you provide any evidence to support it, or was this statement of
yours a guess?

Obviously a guess then, eh Dorky!
A little bird tells me that you are leaving apn..
Gary S
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