Scientific evidence proves that pre-historic man had some sort of
belief in supernatural deities:
"A growing number of anthropologists and archeo-mythologists argue
that the prevailing ideology of belief in prehistoric Europe and much
of the world was based on the worship of a single earth goddess, who
was assumed to be the fount of all life and who radiated harmony among
all living things." - Al Gore (Earth in the Balance; Ecology and the
Human Spirit)
"Much of the evidence for the existence of this primitive religion
comes from the many thousands of artifacts uncovered in ceremonial
sites. These sites are so widespread that they seem to confirm the
notion that a goddess religion was ubiquitous throughout much of the
world until the antecedents of today's religions - most of which still
have a distinctly masculine orientation - swept out of India and the
Near East, almost obliterating belief in the goddess. The last vestige
of organized goddess worship was eliminated by Christianity" - Al Gore
(Earth in the Balance; Ecology and the Human Spirit)
Yet around 600 B.C. (before the birth of Jesus) and in the name of
"science" men began to employ themselves idiotically in the futile
attempt to remove the notion of the existance of supernatural beings
from the fabric of their current culture...
"The early Greek, or Hellenic, culture marked a different approach to
science. The Ionian natural philosophers removed the gods from the
personal roles they had played in the cosmologies of Babylonia and
Egypt and sought to order the world according to philosophical
principles. Thales of Miletus (6th cent. B.C.) was one of the earliest
of these and contributed to astronomy, geometry, and cosmology. He was
followed by Anaximander, who extended Thales' ideas and proposed that
the universe is composed of four basic elements, i.e., earth, air,
fire, and water; this theory was also taught by Empedocles (5th cent.
B.C.) in Sicily."
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Science&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=science
Enter Charles Darwin whom many of you think fathered the theory of
evolution. In fact, Darwin pilfered his notions from other scientists,
some who had come before him (such as his grandfather for one):
"Charles Darwin's grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, was one of the leading
intellectuals of eighteenth century England, a man with a remarkable
array of interests and pursuits. Erasmus Darwin was a respected
physician, a well known poet, philosopher, botanist, and naturalist.
As a naturalist, he formulated one of the first formal theories on
evolution in Zoonomia, or, The Laws of Organic Life (1794-1796). He
also presented his evolutionary ideas in verse, in particular in the
posthumously published poem The Temple of Nature."
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/Edarwin.html
For your reading convenience, I dug up that poem. Here it is:
"Organic life beneath the shoreless waves
Was born and nurs'd in ocean's pearly caves;
First forms minute, unseen by spheric glass,
Move on the mud, or pierce the watery mass;
These, as successive generations bloom,
New powers acquire and larger limbs assume;
Whence countless groups of vegetation spring,
And breathing realms of fin and feet and wing."
- Erasmus Darwin. (The Temple of Nature, 1802)
And here, Darwins grandfather clearly (and falsely, in true false
scientific fashion) suggests that all living things "evolved" from a
common ancestor. And I admit being startled myself upon discovering
this tidbit of history since I'd previously blamed Darwin (Charles)
for single handedly corrupting science and everything good about
Biology (which is my secular profession). Professors will not tell you
this stuff. Anyhow here it is. This quote from Charles Darwins
grandfather proves that Darwin himself does not deserve all the
credit (blame) for coming up with the theory (lie) of human evolution
a.k.a... the lie concerning the "common ancestor" theory:
"Would it be too bold to imagine that, in the great length of time
since the earth began to exist, perhaps millions of ages before the
commencement of the history of mankind would it be too bold to imagine
that all warm-blooded animals have arisen from one living filament,
which the great First Cause endued with animality, with the power of
acquiring new parts, attended with new propensities, directed by
irritations, sensations, volitions and associations, and thus
possessing the faculty of continuing to improve by its own inherent
activity, and of delivering down these improvements by generation to
its posterity, world without end!" Erasmus Darwin (Zoönomia, 1794)
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Erasmus+Darwin
Did you see what he said? Independent organisms which need no God
atall.
So from grandpaw to grandson was the torch to passed in order to
attempt to remove supernatural concepts and possibilities from the
minds of men... all under the disguise of "science":
The lie began to spread (as a tool of the devil) under the name of
"science":
"Ernst Haeckel, much like Herbert Spencer, was always quotable, even
when wrong. Although best known for the famous statement "ontogeny
recapitulates phylogeny", he also coined many words commonly used by
biologists today, such as phylum, phylogeny, and ecology."
"Although trained as a physician, Haeckel abandoned his practice in
1859 after reading Darwin's Origin of Species. Always suspicious of
teleological and mystical explanation, Haeckel used the Origin as
ammunition both to attack entrenched religious dogma and to build his
own unique world view."
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/haeckel.html
On my exact birthday 95 years ago Charles Darwins "Origin of the
Species" was actually published as "On the Origin of Species by Means
of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the
Struggle for Life". So here am I, 95 years later finding myself trying
to correct al these lies as if it were my divine duty.
"First published on 24 November 1859, The Origin of Species (full
title On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the
Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life) by British
naturalist Charles Darwin is one of the pivotal works in scientific
history, and arguably the pre-eminent work in biology. In it, Darwin
makes "one long argument" for his theory that "groups" of organisms,
(which we now call populations) rather than individual organisms,
gradually evolve through the process of natural selection—a mechanism
effectively introduced to the public at large by the book. The work
presents detailed scientific evidence he had accumulated both on the
Voyage of the Beagle in the 1830s and since his return, painstakingly
laying out his theory and refuting the doctrine of "Created kinds"
underlying the theories of Creation biology which were then widely
accepted."
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/The+Origin+of+Species
Of course. Darwin fell to (pseudo) "science" and became an
X-christian. Formerly, he was a Bible quoting Christian....
"During these two years I was led to think much about religion. Whilst
on board the Beagle I was quite orthodox, and I remember being
heartily laughed at by several of the officers (though themselves
orthodox) for quoting the Bible as an unanswerable authority on some
point of morality." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles
Darwin)
However, the devil has finally conceded that man will never easily
relinquish his belief in the supernatural and will never surrender his
God given rights of "faith".
And thus "science", in this modern day and time reverts to mans
earlier primordial superstitions of goddess worship in a last ditch
effort to deceive him:
"In science, a Gaia theory is a class of scientific models of the
biosphere in which life fosters and maintains suitable conditions for
itself by affecting Earth's environment. The first such theory was
created by the English atmospheric scientist James Lovelock in 1969.
He hypothesized that the living matter of the planet functioned like a
single organism and named this self-regulating living system after the
Greek goddess Gaia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_theory_%28science%29
Lovelock was no insignificant scientists seeing that he was employed
at NASA's Jet Propulslsion Lab:
"A lifelong inventor, some of his inventions were adopted by NASA in
their program of planetary exploration. It was while working for NASA
that Lovelock developed the Gaia Hypothesis."
"James Lovelock is the author of approximately 200 scientific papers,
distributed almost equally among topics in Medicine, Biology,
Instrument Science and Geophysiology. He has filed more than 50
patents, mostly for detectors for use in chemical analysis. One of
these, the electron capture detector, was important in the development
of environmental awareness."
"For me, the personal revelation of Gaia came quite suddenly - like a
flash of enlightenment. I was in a small room on the top floor of a
building at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. It
was the autumn of 1965 ... and I was talking with a colleague, Dian
Hitchcock, about a paper we were preparing ... It was at that moment
that I glimpsed Gaia."
http://www.gaianet.fsbusiness.co.uk/gaiatheory.html
However, this is no great surprise seeing that the Bible perfectly
explains that "evolution" is not the problem, but that "devolution" is
the culprit of the latter days of civilization as we know it. The
"devolution" of mankind is simply summarized as being a state of being
of men by which they have somehow (by democic influence) lost "faith".
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some
shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and
doctrines of devils" (1 Timothy 4:1)
comments welcome, as always
Jd A.D. 2006
Anno Domini" is Latin for "in the year of Our Lord", referring to Our
Lord Jesus Christ. That is, "AD 1996" literally means "in the 1996'th
year since the birth of the Christ." Now not all the world is
Christian, so it makes no sense for a Jew, a Moslem, a Hindu, a Witch,
a Druid, or an atheist to refer to the date as being in the year of
"their Lord" when they don't follow him. So "CE" is a more considerate
way of labeling dates in the Gregorian calendar without rubbing
non-Christian's noses in the fact that so much of the world is using a
calendar based on the alleged birth-year of the man we Christians
believe to be the Messiah.
http://www.radix.net/~dglenn/defs/ce.html
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12 Mar 2006 05:04:39 PM |
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robpar wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:24:59 GMT, Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net>
wrote:
OK, that makes sense. But to extend that to rleativism is an entire
metaphysical discussion. We cannot go from there to "it's Ok to lie
to atheists about (...... pick your subject).
Generally speaking, my view is that a true atheist would not be
wasting his/her time here arguing with me (whom they would consider a
nut). The ones who do are X-religious folks who've turned from the
religion of their birthright and upbringing in my opinion.
Generally speaking, my view is that a true christian, would follow
the command of Jesus and leave alone those that reject the christian
teaching. Instead of making a fool of himself, with people that
commonly are polite, until you become obnoxious as well as stupid.
The X-religious folks are those that saw through the scam of
religion. And reject religion because of the hatred preached by false
christians such as your self.
But hang around and serve as a reminder of why I rejected
christianity.
Thank you. You just proved my assertion.
But I'm not hanging around unless I want too.
Jd
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| User: "Cardinal Chunder" |
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22 Feb 2006 07:16:08 AM |
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Anno Domini wrote:
Yet around 600 B.C. (before the birth of Jesus) and in the name of
"science" men began to employ themselves idiotically in the futile
attempt to remove the notion of the existance of supernatural beings
from the fabric of their current culture...
Did you pull this tongue tied twaddle out of your arse?
If you're trying to say that some free thinkers attempted to explain the
world around them without invoking spirits, gods, magic pixies etc. then
yes they did. And guess what? They and their successors did so with an
ever increasing rate of success.
A fact that you should be enormously thankful for.
For course if you enjoy living a painful brief existence grinding wild
grass in front of your baked mud hut then I guess science is "futile".
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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22 Feb 2006 10:22:22 AM |
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In article <dtho6g01kni@news4.newsguy.com> cchunder_S_P@A_M.foiler.yahoo.co.uk writes:
Anno Domini wrote:
Yet around 600 B.C. (before the birth of Jesus) and in the name of
"science" men began to employ themselves idiotically in the futile
attempt to remove the notion of the existance of supernatural beings
from the fabric of their current culture...
Did you pull this tongue tied twaddle out of your arse?
If you're trying to say that some free thinkers attempted to explain the
world around them without invoking spirits, gods, magic pixies etc. then
yes they did. And guess what? They and their successors did so with an
ever increasing rate of success.
Apparently JDay doesn't approve of the intelligensia trying
to expel the pagan gods and goddesses -- even though he's spent
many a byte railing against pagan gods and goddesses himself.
Wwell, goddesses mostly. And jezebels. And sundry whores
of Babylon. (do we see a pattern here?)
Me, I think the human race started the long slow decline when
it stopped paying attention to Bast
A fact that you should be enormously thankful for.
For course if you enjoy living a painful brief existence grinding wild
grass in front of your baked mud hut then I guess science is "futile".
But he DOES have a point: we've always made up gods, and we
always will. He just doesn't grasp the implications of that.
-- cary
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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22 Feb 2006 11:06:10 AM |
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"...we've always made up gods,...."
Ah. Better.
Gods are invented...never discovered.
Werewolfy
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| User: "Twittering One" |
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22 Feb 2006 11:10:32 AM |
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"I said 'Bone'...not 'Phone' ~ !"
~ Twittering
http://malteseonly.com/captions/results.html
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| User: "Twittering One" |
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22 Feb 2006 11:18:50 AM |
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"Standard Deviation of Evolution: 2006 A.D.
....we've always made up gods...."
~ Agent Canary
"Ah. Better.
Gods are invented...never discovered."
~ Werewolfy
"Neither The Invention of Solitude,
Nor Journal of Solitude catalogued seaside,
While your lover dies,
But somtimes ~
Merrilly
The Music of Chance ..."
~ Paul Auster
"Philosophical speculation and recent history alike
had prepared the way for an understanding of the
process by which, in times long past, the gods had
been recruited from the ranks of mortal men."
~ Jean Seznec,
From "The Survival of the Pagan Gods"
http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/dept/libdata/applications/ejournals/b/n-z/PMC/5/hooper.595
~ * ~
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| User: "Twittering One" |
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22 Feb 2006 11:30:07 AM |
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"A growing number of anthropologists
And archeo-mythologists argue that the prevailing
Ideology of belief in prehistoric Europe
And much of the world
Was based on the worship of a single earth goddess,
Who was assumed to be the fount
Of all life
And who radiated harmony among
All living things."
~ Al Gore,
From "Earth in the Balance"
"4 Pounds Sterling,
The International Standards & Measure,
Our treasure ~
Greenwich Mean Thyme."
~ Cotter,
Reporting from Holland
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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22 Feb 2006 01:16:51 PM |
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"4 Pounds Sterling,
The International Standards & Measure,
Our treasure ~ "
I think I know why you call yourself, 'Twittering One'.
;)
Werewolfy
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| User: "Twittering One" |
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22 Feb 2006 11:25:13 AM |
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"Wherefore art Phantasia,
An Egyptian Feline,
If Werewolfy's whereabouts still unknown
And a Magic Flute
Pipes not, but sings on silver wings ~ ?"
~ Master Minor Byrd
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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23 Feb 2006 02:50:02 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:22:22 -0600, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <dti33u$pa7$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <dtho6g01kni@news4.newsguy.com>
cchunder_S_P@A_M.foiler.yahoo.co.uk writes:
Anno Domini wrote:
Yet around 600 B.C. (before the birth of Jesus) and in the name of
"science" men began to employ themselves idiotically in the futile
attempt to remove the notion of the existance of supernatural beings
from the fabric of their current culture...
Did you pull this tongue tied twaddle out of your arse?
If you're trying to say that some free thinkers attempted to explain the
world around them without invoking spirits, gods, magic pixies etc. then
yes they did. And guess what? They and their successors did so with an
ever increasing rate of success.
Apparently JDay doesn't approve of the intelligensia trying
to expel the pagan gods and goddesses -- even though he's spent
many a byte railing against pagan gods and goddesses himself.
Wwell, goddesses mostly. And jezebels. And sundry whores
of Babylon. (do we see a pattern here?)
No ethics no moore?
g
Me, I think the human race started the long slow decline when
it stopped paying attention to Bast
A fact that you should be enormously thankful for.
For course if you enjoy living a painful brief existence grinding wild
grass in front of your baked mud hut then I guess science is "futile".
But he DOES have a point: we've always made up gods, and we
always will. He just doesn't grasp the implications of that.
-- cary
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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21 Feb 2006 12:07:22 PM |
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In article <okolv19mbk5ghdmar6pdvb6p9elnpm3hgf@4ax.com> Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> writes:
Scientific evidence proves that pre-historic man had some sort of
belief in supernatural deities:
"A growing number of anthropologists and archeo-mythologists argue
that the prevailing ideology of belief in prehistoric Europe and much
of the world was based on the worship of a single earth goddess, who
was assumed to be the fount of all life and who radiated harmony among
all living things." - Al Gore (Earth in the Balance; Ecology and the
Human Spirit)
"Much of the evidence for the existence of this primitive religion
comes from the many thousands of artifacts uncovered in ceremonial
sites. These sites are so widespread that they seem to confirm the
notion that a goddess religion was ubiquitous throughout much of the
world until the antecedents of today's religions - most of which still
have a distinctly masculine orientation - swept out of India and the
Near East, almost obliterating belief in the goddess. The last vestige
of organized goddess worship was eliminated by Christianity" - Al Gore
(Earth in the Balance; Ecology and the Human Spirit)
Yet around 600 B.C. (before the birth of Jesus) and in the name of
"science" men began to employ themselves idiotically in the futile
attempt to remove the notion of the existance of supernatural beings
from the fabric of their current culture...
"The early Greek, or Hellenic, culture marked a different approach to
science. The Ionian natural philosophers removed the gods from the
personal roles they had played in the cosmologies of Babylonia and
Egypt and sought to order the world according to philosophical
principles. Thales of Miletus (6th cent. B.C.) was one of the earliest
of these and contributed to astronomy, geometry, and cosmology. He was
followed by Anaximander, who extended Thales' ideas and proposed that
the universe is composed of four basic elements, i.e., earth, air,
fire, and water; this theory was also taught by Empedocles (5th cent.
B.C.) in Sicily."
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Science&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=science
Damn! Double damn!
He's right folks. I can see it now. I always felt it gnawing
at me, but maybe I was just in denial.
Let us resolve this day to undot the idiocy of those men of science
who futiley attempted to remove from the fabric of our common
culture the gods of Egypt and Babylonia. Repeat after me, now,
all of you:
ALL HAIL THOTH!
ALL HAIL SET!
ALL HAIL OSIRIS!
ALL HAIL QETESH! (yum)
ALL HAIL ISHTAR! (ditto)
ALL HAIL MARDUK!
ALL HAIL TIMAT!
Enter Charles Darwin whom many of you think fathered the theory of
evolution.
Make that "many of you" into "one of me", and you might be right.
No one with the brains god gave lard thinks that Darwin invented
the concept of evolution. The basic idea had been in the
air for over half a century (do the name "Lamarck" ring
a bell?). It was frequently called "mutationism", and
"Darwin's theory of evolution" no more meant that
"evolution" was Darwin's idea than "Newton's theory
of gravity" means that no one had noticed gravity
before Newton. Darwin explained the how, he did
not invent the what. He just made it plausible.
Silly "professional biologist", history is for grownups.
-- cary
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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21 Feb 2006 06:30:51 PM |
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".....Darwin invented the concept of evolution...."
Evolution, like gravity, was discovered.
Neither are things that we are able to invent.
Werewolfy
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| User: "raven1" |
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22 Feb 2006 05:46:23 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:59:52 GMT, Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net>
wrote:
comments welcome, as always
You're a loon.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Raving Loonie" |
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23 Feb 2006 11:46:58 AM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:59:52 GMT, Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net>
wrote:
comments welcome, as always
You're a loon.
... and I am the Raving Loonie.
Cheers,
RL.
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