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User: "eric"
Date: 09 Mar 2006 11:46:03 AM
Object: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker
Really, I need to ask the question...are these the same people? The
positions that Stephen Douglas takes seem eerily similar to that other
nutjob, DW...Not too many nutjobs believe that somehow the North
Vietnamese didn't defeat America.
eric.
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User: "Jane"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 10 Mar 2006 11:04:44 AM
"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141926363.142724.295900@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...

Really, I need to ask the question...are these the same people? The
positions that Stephen Douglas takes seem eerily similar to that other
nutjob, DW...Not too many nutjobs believe that somehow the North
Vietnamese didn't defeat America.

I remember when Kim thought he was Tony...even accused him of writing with a
New Jersey dialect (!)
There is more than one conservative in the world, you know, and they often
hold similar opinions...just like liberals do. Fancy that!
Jane



eric.

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User: "eric"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 10 Mar 2006 12:17:06 PM
Really? More than 1 Conservative? Politics is beside the point. Some
people regardless of their politcs, or perhaps because of their
politics have a hard time facing reality. How many Conservatives, or
Liberals for that manner deny that America was defeated by the
Vietnamese?
We've seen on this newsgroup time, and time again of people holding
wacko viewpoints no matter where they stand on the political spectrum.
This is after all APN...u have to be kinda wacko in the first place to
take Nostradamus seriously.
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 10 Mar 2006 12:30:06 PM
eric wrote:

Really? More than 1 Conservative? Politics is beside the point. Some
people regardless of their politcs, or perhaps because of their
politics have a hard time facing reality. How many Conservatives, or
Liberals for that manner deny that America was defeated by the
Vietnamese?

Of course that is the "conventional wisdom" that has been promulgated
by the anti-war leftist media and university professors who were happy
to see the United States fleeing from Saigon two and a half years after
we ended our military involvement. I have offered some arguments for
you to respond to, and the weakness of your intellect keeps showing up
each time you resort to name calling instead of responding to my
arguments.


We've seen on this newsgroup time, and time again of people holding
wacko viewpoints no matter where they stand on the political spectrum.
This is after all APN...u have to be kinda wacko in the first place to
take Nostradamus seriously.

I'm not here for the Nostradamus discussions, and I don't think you are
either. So don't hold me to a standard you don't hold yourself to by
posting to this group. Now either respond to my arguments in the other
thread, or admit you don't have an argument (as you usually don't --
which is why you usually resort to name calling).
.
User: "eric"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 01:26:23 PM
Scumbag is an accurate and choice word to use to refer to someone who
is disappointed that the Vietnam war didn't continue for years longer.
and yes, I accept that you are not one of the whackjobs that still
believes in Nostradamus' fantasies, but nevertheless, I still consider
you wacky....
and Steven,...I don't beat dead horses...that's why I let moronic
discussions die the death they truely deseve.
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 01:29:03 PM
eric wrote:

Scumbag is an accurate and choice word to use to refer to someone who
is disappointed that the Vietnam war didn't continue for years longer.

and yes, I accept that you are not one of the whackjobs that still
believes in Nostradamus' fantasies, but nevertheless, I still consider
you wacky....


and Steven,...I don't beat dead horses...that's why I let moronic
discussions die the death they truely deseve.

eric, could you include some of the post to which
you are responding? It's impossible to know what
you're responding to ...
thx!
Woods
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User: "eric"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 04:19:35 PM
Sounds like Steven is backtracking now...He said in a recent thread
(sorry, don't remember the subject title at the moment), that America
was not defeated by the Vietnamese, but the Democrats. Steven is now
saying that he didn't want the war to continue now...but he was pretty
much blaming everything about Vietnam on the Democrats --- Now the
Johnson administration - that I could understand --- but it went
further than that...just listen to Steven in response to my previous
post...just silly...blaming the Democrats it seems for being against
the war, and also Now, saying, that he didn't want it to continue.
When he gets like this, I generally don't bother with him anymore.
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 06:59:32 PM
eric wrote:

Sounds like Steven is backtracking now...

Not for a moment. I see that rather than respond to my points, you
continue to dance around and mischaracterize what I've had to say. You
are an intellectual weakling, eric.


He said in a recent thread
(sorry, don't remember the subject title at the moment), that America
was not defeated by the Vietnamese, but the Democrats. Steven is now
saying that he didn't want the war to continue now...

I NEVER said I wanted the war to continue. It had already been STOPPED
for two years before the Communists restarted the hostilities. Can you
respond to this point for once, or are you unable? That would explain
why you keep dancing around the topic instead of responding to my
points.


but he was pretty
much blaming everything about Vietnam on the Democrats --- Now the
Johnson administration - that I could understand ---

I never mentioned Johnson. Why are you so unable to respond to what
I've actually written?


but it went
further than that...just listen to Steven in response to my previous
post...just silly...blaming the Democrats it seems for being against
the war, and also Now, saying, that he didn't want it to continue.
When he gets like this, I generally don't bother with him anymore.

That's the sign of an intellecual weakling who has nothing constructive
to add to the debate. You've added nothing other than your false
belief, which I have responded to with FACTS. You have nothing but your
desire to believe the myth you've been indoctrinated with. You are
WEAK!
.



User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 02:07:14 PM
eric wrote:

Scumbag is an accurate and choice word to use to refer to someone who
is disappointed that the Vietnam war didn't continue for years longer.

Listen, I'm going to try to explain some facts to you one more time: I
did NOT want the Vietnam war to continue one day longer -- it had been
stopped for TWO YEARS!!!! What part of that don't you understand? You
need to learn a few facts before you start accusing me of something --
the war was restarted by the COMMUNISTS!!! Because they saw that the
anti-war Democratic Party had SURRENDERED to them, and the Communists
knew they had a free pass to invade South Vietnam. Don't you understand
that (as in Korea) if we had stayed there and let them know we would
repel them if they restarted the hostilities, maybe they WOULDN'T have
restarted the hostilities???


and yes, I accept that you are not one of the whackjobs that still
believes in Nostradamus' fantasies, but nevertheless, I still consider
you wacky....

Same to you, kooky.


and Steven,...I don't beat dead horses...that's why I let moronic
discussions die the death they truely deseve.

You still haven't responded to the points I made. Nope, instead you
repeated the exact same false accusation, along with the standard name
calling. You are truly a weak intellect.
.


User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 01:15:29 PM
Steven Douglas wrote:

eric wrote:

Really? More than 1 Conservative? Politics is beside the point. Some
people regardless of their politcs, or perhaps because of their
politics have a hard time facing reality. How many Conservatives, or
Liberals for that manner deny that America was defeated by the
Vietnamese?



Of course that is the "conventional wisdom" that has been promulgated
by the anti-war leftist media and university professors who were happy
to see the United States fleeing from Saigon two and a half years after
we ended our military involvement. I have offered some arguments for
you to respond to, and the weakness of your intellect keeps showing up
each time you resort to name calling instead of responding to my
arguments.

The fact that we didn't get what we wanted is
pretty much a slam dunk that we lost.
Woods


We've seen on this newsgroup time, and time again of people holding
wacko viewpoints no matter where they stand on the political spectrum.
This is after all APN...u have to be kinda wacko in the first place to
take Nostradamus seriously.



I'm not here for the Nostradamus discussions, and I don't think you are
either. So don't hold me to a standard you don't hold yourself to by
posting to this group. Now either respond to my arguments in the other
thread, or admit you don't have an argument (as you usually don't --
which is why you usually resort to name calling).

.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 02:02:11 PM
Woodswun wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

eric wrote:

Really? More than 1 Conservative? Politics is beside the point. Some
people regardless of their politcs, or perhaps because of their
politics have a hard time facing reality. How many Conservatives, or
Liberals for that manner deny that America was defeated by the
Vietnamese?



Of course that is the "conventional wisdom" that has been promulgated
by the anti-war leftist media and university professors who were happy
to see the United States fleeing from Saigon two and a half years after
we ended our military involvement. I have offered some arguments for
you to respond to, and the weakness of your intellect keeps showing up
each time you resort to name calling instead of responding to my
arguments.


The fact that we didn't get what we wanted is
pretty much a slam dunk that we lost.

On the contrary, the anti-war leftists got exactly what they wanted --
a Communist victory in Vietnam. Unlike Korea, where we stood tough in
the face of the Communists and avoided the bloodbath that occurred in
South Vietnam after we left, the anti-war left got exactly what they
wanted in Vietnam -- and they've been crowing about the "defeat" of
America ever since.
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 02:31:03 PM
Steven Douglas wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

eric wrote:


Really? More than 1 Conservative? Politics is beside the point. Some
people regardless of their politcs, or perhaps because of their
politics have a hard time facing reality. How many Conservatives, or
Liberals for that manner deny that America was defeated by the
Vietnamese?



Of course that is the "conventional wisdom" that has been promulgated
by the anti-war leftist media and university professors who were happy
to see the United States fleeing from Saigon two and a half years after
we ended our military involvement. I have offered some arguments for
you to respond to, and the weakness of your intellect keeps showing up
each time you resort to name calling instead of responding to my
arguments.


The fact that we didn't get what we wanted is
pretty much a slam dunk that we lost.



On the contrary, the anti-war leftists got exactly what they wanted --
a Communist victory in Vietnam. Unlike Korea, where we stood tough in
the face of the Communists and avoided the bloodbath that occurred in
South Vietnam after we left, the anti-war left got exactly what they
wanted in Vietnam -- and they've been crowing about the "defeat" of
America ever since.

Nobody's "crowing". It's just a fact that we
lost. Get a grip.
Woods
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 06:45:52 PM
Woodswun wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

eric wrote:


Really? More than 1 Conservative? Politics is beside the point. Some
people regardless of their politcs, or perhaps because of their
politics have a hard time facing reality. How many Conservatives, or
Liberals for that manner deny that America was defeated by the
Vietnamese?



Of course that is the "conventional wisdom" that has been promulgated
by the anti-war leftist media and university professors who were happy
to see the United States fleeing from Saigon two and a half years after
we ended our military involvement. I have offered some arguments for
you to respond to, and the weakness of your intellect keeps showing up
each time you resort to name calling instead of responding to my
arguments.


The fact that we didn't get what we wanted is
pretty much a slam dunk that we lost.



On the contrary, the anti-war leftists got exactly what they wanted --
a Communist victory in Vietnam. Unlike Korea, where we stood tough in
the face of the Communists and avoided the bloodbath that occurred in
South Vietnam after we left, the anti-war left got exactly what they
wanted in Vietnam -- and they've been crowing about the "defeat" of
America ever since.


Nobody's "crowing".

You must have missed eric's post where he was most certainly crowing.


It's just a fact that we
lost. Get a grip.

We didn't lose. It was not a military defeat. As I have pointed out to
eric repeatedly, the war was over for two years after the North
Vietnamese signed the Paris Peace Accord. The Democrats cut off funding
to South Vietnam, the Soviet Union and China stepped up funding to
North Vietnam -- as I have asked the intellectual weakling eric, what
the hell do you think is going to happen in that situation?
.
User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 10:03:17 PM
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words


Woodswun wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

eric wrote:


Really? More than 1 Conservative? Politics is beside the point.

Some

people regardless of their politcs, or perhaps because of their
politics have a hard time facing reality. How many Conservatives,

or

Liberals for that manner deny that America was defeated by the
Vietnamese?



Of course that is the "conventional wisdom" that has been promulgated
by the anti-war leftist media and university professors who were

happy

to see the United States fleeing from Saigon two and a half years

after

we ended our military involvement. I have offered some arguments for
you to respond to, and the weakness of your intellect keeps showing

up

each time you resort to name calling instead of responding to my
arguments.


The fact that we didn't get what we wanted is
pretty much a slam dunk that we lost.



On the contrary, the anti-war leftists got exactly what they wanted --
a Communist victory in Vietnam. Unlike Korea, where we stood tough in
the face of the Communists and avoided the bloodbath that occurred in
South Vietnam after we left, the anti-war left got exactly what they
wanted in Vietnam -- and they've been crowing about the "defeat" of
America ever since.


Nobody's "crowing".


You must have missed eric's post where he was most certainly crowing.

Eric is Canadian. Lots of foreigners crowing about the US right now,
in case you haven't noticed.


It's just a fact that we
lost. Get a grip.


We didn't lose. It was not a military defeat. As I have pointed out to
eric repeatedly, the war was over for two years after the North
Vietnamese signed the Paris Peace Accord. The Democrats cut off funding
to South Vietnam, the Soviet Union and China stepped up funding to
North Vietnam -- as I have asked the intellectual weakling eric, what
the hell do you think is going to happen in that situation?


.
User: "eric"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 12 Mar 2006 04:28:55 AM
US, always denigrating enemies, and allies alike...and wondering why
everyone hates the bastards.
.
User: "Jane"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 12 Mar 2006 07:49:45 AM
"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142159335.020461.196840@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

US, always denigrating enemies, and allies alike...and wondering why
everyone hates the bastards.

Everyone does not. I was just in Vermont; wonderful place full of very nice
people who bear a distinct resemblance to Canadians.
Jane


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User: "Jane"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 12 Mar 2006 07:54:51 AM
"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142159335.020461.196840@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

US, always denigrating enemies, and allies alike...and wondering why
everyone hates the bastards.

If anything, we (and other so-called friends of the US) do a lot more
denigrating of the Americans than they do of us! Martin ran the last
election with his main theme being "anti-American" (which I don't believe is
how he truly feels; he was just being an opportunist).
Woods is right, though...lots of us clean up our inboxes regularly. It
would help a little if you quoted what you were responding to. Thanks.
Jane


.

User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 12 Mar 2006 03:49:26 PM
eric wrote:

US, always denigrating enemies, and allies alike...and wondering why
everyone hates the bastards.

Still no response to my points? I'm not surprised. You've got nothing
valuable to say, so you keep throwing out these dodges.
.










User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 09 Mar 2006 07:27:42 PM
On 9 Mar 2006 09:46:03 -0800, "eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote:

Really, I need to ask the question...are these the same people? The
positions that Stephen Douglas takes seem eerily similar to that other
nutjob, DW...Not too many nutjobs believe that somehow the North
Vietnamese didn't defeat America.

Absolutely not. Completely different writing styles. And if that's
not enough, completely different personalities.
Dani

eric.

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User: "eric"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 09 Mar 2006 09:14:45 PM
except that DW has pretended to be other people b4 has he not?
Certainly he has a track record of being deceptive.
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 09 Mar 2006 10:21:37 PM
On 9 Mar 2006 19:14:45 -0800, "eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote:

except that DW has pretended to be other people b4 has he not?
Certainly he has a track record of being deceptive.

But (I feel bad saying this, I hope DW isn't reading), Stephen is more
mature and seems more intelligent. DW also isn't big on writing
(usually a quick one liner), while Stephen writes loooong posts
usually.
Their writing styles are way too different as are their
attitudes/personalities.
I'm good at this, eric. I wouldn't state it so matter of factly if
I wasn't 98% sure. If I'm wrong though, and somewhere down the
line we find out that they are one in the same - I'll have no problem
saying so.
Dani
.
User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 10 Mar 2006 04:16:46 AM
Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> Spat the Words

On 9 Mar 2006 19:14:45 -0800, "eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote:

except that DW has pretended to be other people b4 has he not?
Certainly he has a track record of being deceptive.


But (I feel bad saying this, I hope DW isn't reading), Stephen is more
mature and seems more intelligent. DW also isn't big on writing
(usually a quick one liner), while Stephen writes loooong posts
usually.

Their writing styles are way too different as are their
attitudes/personalities.

I'm good at this, eric. I wouldn't state it so matter of factly if
I wasn't 98% sure. If I'm wrong though, and somewhere down the
line we find out that they are one in the same - I'll have no problem
saying so.

There's no way DW and Stephen are the same person. You're right
on with your examination dani.


Dani

.

User: "eric"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 10 Mar 2006 05:19:39 AM
I think you are right. Probably closer to 100%, since everyone agrees
with you...It has just been the last couple of days that it occurred to
me that perhaps they were the same person...but put it this way...If DW
were here, then he and Stephen, would be of one mind regarding most of
these topics.
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 12:59:18 PM
eric wrote:

I think you are right. Probably closer to 100%, since everyone agrees
with you...It has just been the last couple of days that it occurred to
me that perhaps they were the same person...but put it this way...If DW
were here, then he and Stephen, would be of one mind regarding most of
these topics.

DW didn't always toe the party line, though. He
occassionally broke with Bush, which is something
I've never seen Steven do. Ever.
Woods
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 01:57:47 PM
Woodswun wrote:

eric wrote:

I think you are right. Probably closer to 100%, since everyone agrees
with you...It has just been the last couple of days that it occurred to
me that perhaps they were the same person...but put it this way...If DW
were here, then he and Stephen, would be of one mind regarding most of
these topics.


DW didn't always toe the party line, though. He
occassionally broke with Bush, which is something
I've never seen Steven do. Ever.

Maybe because the topics where I do disagree with Bush (and there are a
few) are never raised on this group. This group is filled with Bush
haters already, so I see no need to chime in with the chorus of Bush
thrashing going on around here. But just so no one forgets, it would
not have devastated me if Bush had lost the last election. I said that
before the election, and I continue to stand by it. I know you think
I'm some Bush syncophant, but that's not the case. The reason I defend
him when I do is because of the rabid, dishonest, nonfactual,
emotional, and illogical points that are sometimes made against him
here.
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 02:51:09 PM
Steven Douglas wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

eric wrote:

I think you are right. Probably closer to 100%, since everyone agrees
with you...It has just been the last couple of days that it occurred to
me that perhaps they were the same person...but put it this way...If DW
were here, then he and Stephen, would be of one mind regarding most of
these topics.


DW didn't always toe the party line, though. He
occassionally broke with Bush, which is something
I've never seen Steven do. Ever.



Maybe because the topics where I do disagree with Bush (and there are a
few) are never raised on this group. This group is filled with Bush
haters already, so I see no need to chime in with the chorus of Bush
thrashing going on around here. But just so no one forgets, it would
not have devastated me if Bush had lost the last election. I said that
before the election, and I continue to stand by it. I know you think
I'm some Bush syncophant, but that's not the case. The reason I defend
him when I do is because of the rabid, dishonest, nonfactual,
emotional, and illogical points that are sometimes made against him
here.

You mean defending him by bringing up Clinton?
Yeah, I can see how much more rational that is.
Woods
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 11 Mar 2006 06:54:10 PM
Woodswun wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

eric wrote:

I think you are right. Probably closer to 100%, since everyone agrees
with you...It has just been the last couple of days that it occurred to
me that perhaps they were the same person...but put it this way...If DW
were here, then he and Stephen, would be of one mind regarding most of
these topics.


DW didn't always toe the party line, though. He
occassionally broke with Bush, which is something
I've never seen Steven do. Ever.



Maybe because the topics where I do disagree with Bush (and there are a
few) are never raised on this group. This group is filled with Bush
haters already, so I see no need to chime in with the chorus of Bush
thrashing going on around here. But just so no one forgets, it would
not have devastated me if Bush had lost the last election. I said that
before the election, and I continue to stand by it. I know you think
I'm some Bush syncophant, but that's not the case. The reason I defend
him when I do is because of the rabid, dishonest, nonfactual,
emotional, and illogical points that are sometimes made against him
here.


You mean defending him by bringing up Clinton?
Yeah, I can see how much more rational that is.

What? I'm not allowed to praise Clinton for those times when he did the
right thing?
.








User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 09 Mar 2006 12:20:48 PM
eric wrote:

Really, I need to ask the question...are these the same people? The
positions that Stephen Douglas takes seem eerily similar to that other
nutjob, DW...Not too many nutjobs believe that somehow the North
Vietnamese didn't defeat America.


eric.

No, they're definitely too different people. DW
was more a conservative biker type, Steven seems
more the crew-cut brownshirt type. I don't think
DW was nearly as into towing the party line as
Steven is.
Woods
.
User: "eric"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 09 Mar 2006 08:10:07 PM
I never thought it b4...until recently...DW has done things to try to
fool APN'ers b4...but you're probably right.
.

User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 10 Mar 2006 04:13:09 AM
Woodswun <woodswun@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words

eric wrote:

Really, I need to ask the question...are these the same people? The
positions that Stephen Douglas takes seem eerily similar to that other
nutjob, DW...Not too many nutjobs believe that somehow the North
Vietnamese didn't defeat America.


eric.


No, they're definitely too different people. DW
was more a conservative biker type, Steven seems
more the crew-cut brownshirt type.

(he's definitely post-graduate hitler youth)

I don't think
DW was nearly as into towing the party line as
Steven is.

Woods

.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Stephen Douglas aka DreamWalker 10 Mar 2006 11:52:05 AM
Perseid wrote:

Woodswun <woodswun@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words

erik wrote:

Really, I need to ask the question...are these the same people? The
positions that Stephen Douglas takes seem eerily similar to that other
nutjob, DW...Not too many nutjobs believe that somehow the North
Vietnamese didn't defeat America.

erik.


No, they're definitely too different people. DW
was more a conservative biker type, Steven seems
more the crew-cut brownshirt type.


(he's definitely post-graduate hitler youth)

I've probably posted more anti-Hitler posts on this group than anyone I
can think of, and I am firmly pro-Israel and pro-Jew. Yet there are
outspoken anti-Jew posters on this group you'd never dream of labeling
the way you just falsely labeled me. All this name calling coming from
supposed "good" liberals reminds me of tactics you supposed "good"
liberals decry in the over-the-top style of some conservatives who have
posted here. Hypocrites of the supposed "good" liberal persuasion,
aren't you?
.




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