man this story died fast didn't it.. I don't think it ever made it to
mainstream media..
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| User: "Ex." |
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23 Dec 2003 07:56:57 PM |
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"Robert Doisneau" <robert@live2day.org> wrote in message
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: man this story died fast didn't it.. I don't think it ever made it to
: mainstream media..
musta ... didn't even make it to your post.
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| User: "WH" |
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24 Dec 2003 04:36:14 AM |
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"Ex." <Eat.Healthy@Turdmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
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"Robert Doisneau" <robert@live2day.org> wrote in message
news:Xns945AB3E3E14B5robertlive2dayorg@207.225.159.7...
: man this story died fast didn't it.. I don't think it ever made it to
: mainstream media..
musta ... didn't even make it to your post.
Here you go then EX:
Saddam was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US troops
Sat Dec 20,11:00 PM ET
LONDON, (AFP) - Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he had
been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for
American soldiers to recover him, a British Sunday newspaper said.
Saddam came into the hands of the Kurdish Patriotic Front after being
betrayed to the group by a member of the al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had
been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud, reported the
Sunday Express, which quoted an unnamed senior British military intelligence
officer.
The newspaper said the full story of events leading up to the ousted Iraqi
president's capture on December 13 near his hometown of Tikrit in northern
Iraq, "exposes the version peddled by American spin doctors as incomplete".
A former Iraqi intelligence officer, whom the Express did not name, told the
paper that Saddam was held prisoner by a leader of the Kurdish Patriotic
Front, which fought alongside US forces during the Iraq war, until he
negotiated a deal.
The deal apparently involved the group gaining political advantage in the
region.
An unnamed Western intelligence source in the Middle East told the Express:
"Saddam was not captured as a result of any American or British
intelligence. We knew that someone would eventually take their revenge, it
was just a matter of time."
We got him: Kurds say they caught Saddam
By Paul McGeough, Herald Correspondent in Baghdad
Sydney Morning Herald - Australia - December 22, 2003
Washington's claims that brilliant US intelligence work led to the capture
of Saddam Hussein are being challenged by reports sourced in Iraq's Kurdish
media claiming that its militia set the circumstances in which the US merely
had to go to a farm identified by the Kurds to bag the fugitive former
president.
The first media account of the December 13 arrest was aired by a
Tehran-based news agency.
American forces took Saddam into custody around 8.30pm local time, but sat
on the news until 3pm the next day.
However, in the early hours of Sunday, a Kurdish language wire service
reported explicitly: "Saddam Hussein was captured by the Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan. A special intelligence unit led by Qusrat Rasul Ali, a
high-ranking member of the PUK, found Saddam Hussein in the city of Tikrit,
his birthplace.
"Qusrat's team was accompanied by a group of US soldiers. Further details of
the capture will emerge during the day; but the global Kurdish party is
about to begin!"
The head of the PUK, Jalal Talabani, was in the Iranian capital en route to
Europe.
The Western media in Baghdad were electrified by the Iranian agency's
revelation, but as reports of the arrest built, they relied almost
exclusively on accounts from US military and intelligence organisations,
starting with the words of the US-appointed administrator of Iraq, Paul
Bremer: "Ladies and gentlemen: we got 'im".
US officials said that they had extracted the vital piece of information on
Saddam's whereabouts from one of the 20 suspects around 5.30pm on December
13 and had immediately assembled a 600-strong force to surround the farm on
which he was captured at al-Dwar, south of Tikrit.
Little attention was paid to a line in Pentagon briefings that some of the
Kurdish militia might have been in on what was described as a "joint
operation"; or to a statement by Ahmed Chalabi, head of the Iraq National
Congress, which said that Qusrat and his PUK forces had provided vital
information and more.
A Scottish newspaper, the Sunday Herald, quoted from an interview aired on
the PUK's al-Hurriyah radio station last Wednesday, in which Adil Murad, a
member of the PUK's political bureau,
said that the day before Saddam's capture he was tipped off by a PUK
general - Thamir al-Sultan - that Saddam would be arrested within the next
72 hours.
An unnamed Western intelligence source in the Middle East was quoted in the
British Sunday Express yesterday: "Saddam was not captured as a result of
any American or British intelligence. We knew that someone would eventually
take their revenge, it was just a matter of time."
There has been no American response to the Kurdish claims.
An intriguing question is why Kurdish forces were allowed to join what the
US desperately needed to present as an American intelligence success -
unless the Kurds had something vital to contribute to the operation so far
south of their usual area of activity.
A report from the PUK's northern stronghold, Suliymaniah, early last week
claimed a vital intelligence breakthrough after a telephone conversation
between Qusrat and Saddam's second wife, Samirah.
www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/21/1071941612613.html
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| User: "Robert Doisneau" |
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| Title: Re: story about kurds' role |
24 Dec 2003 04:15:08 PM |
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"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote in news:bsbq9m$bgl$1@green.tninet.se:
"Ex." <Eat.Healthy@Turdmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:bsarpi02p6a@enews4.newsguy.com...
"Robert Doisneau" <robert@live2day.org> wrote in message
news:Xns945AB3E3E14B5robertlive2dayorg@207.225.159.7...
: man this story died fast didn't it.. I don't think it ever made it
: to mainstream media..
musta ... didn't even make it to your post.
Here you go then EX:
Saddam was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US
troops Sat Dec 20,11:00 PM ET
LONDON, (AFP) - Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he
had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready
for American soldiers to recover him, a British Sunday newspaper said.
thanks WH. Didn't have the time nor strength to post the story. I guess
CNN and the like don't either.
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