NASA Sun Ephemeris and the Errors of the Past
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The NASA Sun Ephemeris in Modern Astrology
From the NASA JPL ephemeris for the Sun one immediately grasps the
concept of scientific astrology while discarding any other astrology
as nonsense. It wil immediately become clear that there is in fact
nothing like "sidereal" astrology or even bogus tropical astrology
anywhere in the real sky.
One of the best didactic tools is the NASA ephemeris for the Sun. This
ephemeris will clear all doubts as concern the position of one's natal
Sun against the real tapestry of stars. It is clear from the ephemeris
below that there is no such thing as superstition in the real sky.
From the NASA ephemeris output we see that the Sun is still in Libra
on November 23rd, much as it sends the last week of November in
Scorpius.
The Sun respectively enters Scorpius on Nov 23rd, Ophiuchus on Nov
30th and Sagittarius on Dec 18th.
2007-Nov-24 00:00 Sco
2007-Dec-01 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-19 00:00 Sgr
Here is the detailed NASA ephemeris for the winter Sun.
2007-Nov-23 00:00 Lib
2007-Nov-24 00:00 Sco
2007-Nov-25 00:00 Sco
2007-Nov-26 00:00 Sco
2007-Nov-27 00:00 Sco
2007-Nov-28 00:00 Sco
2007-Nov-29 00:00 Sco
2007-Nov-30 00:00 Sco
2007-Dec-01 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-02 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-03 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-04 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-05 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-06 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-07 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-08 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-09 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-10 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-11 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-12 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-13 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-14 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-15 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-16 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-17 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-18 00:00 Oph
2007-Dec-19 00:00 Sgr
The positions as rendered by the NASA JPL HORIZONS integrator are
those observed as well as integrated. In other words we have to
observe the objects in order to determine their orbital elements for
subsequent integration. Since it is not possible for us to e.g.
observe Venus in Hydra 5000000 years ago, we try and integrate in
order to obtain the likely position of Venus at the time.
From the above ephemeris strip we can come to conclusions as well as
disturbing questions. Did we have any civilization for the past 3000
years or so? Do we all keep a meticulous record of the positions of
the planets? Has astrology any validity at all, considering ages of
superstition and miscalculation? Do we have a precession-corrected
astrology for the New Age to come in some 650 years from now?
The Errors of the Past and Astrology for the New Age
* Did we have any astrology in the past?
* We can deduce from Mayan to Egyptian lore that there had to be a
sort of astronomy or astrology in the past. We know from our own
zodiacal research why the Mayan civilization put such an enormous
stress on Venus. Current popular researches want to prove that Egypt
itself was built according to a stellar plan. The Chinese clearly had
many branches in astrology that was also astronomy at the time.
* Advanced equatorial astrology was common in old China. How come we
don't follow on that line?
* Already the old Greek astrologers counted on superstition on the
part of their clients and sponsors. Hipparchus rebuked them while
updating the real skies with detailed observation. It seems that he
was the last one to rebuke astrologers and astronomers for lack of
observation as we entered the Dark Age of ignorance triumphing with
Internet with its web sites spreading misinformation on planetary
level.
* It is amazing how many scientifically minded people believe in the
12 sign zodiac. The most disturbing fact is that even astronomers
believe in a sort of 12 animal zodiac with equal distribution of
ecliptic slices. We have seen astronomic programs nevertheless
incorporating the nonexistent 12 signs.
* In order to estimate the errors made it is enough to check the NASA
ephemeris for one's natal Sun position. People who believed themselves
"Scorpio" will find themselves Virgo, alleged "Sagittarius" will read
as Libra, "Capricorn ascending" will prove to be Pisces and so on. Sai
Baba was e.g. born with Sun in Libra on November 23rd.
* Already while studying the ephemeris for the Sun we discover large
discrepancies between what was become "popular belief" and what we
call science. In order to clear any dispute it is enough to accept
authority. But why would an industry as based on superstition yield to
NASA?
* Thousands of fraudulent astrologers would lose their job, face and
soul before judgement day at the very moment when NASA becomes
official. Due to transcendental reasons a large body of victims would
vote against science.
* The very same human beings that were enthusiastic with the Apollo
project would vote against NASA if NASA would change the face of
astrology in favor of science.
* The unreason why a scientifically minded generation nevertheless
cashes its fate on superstition has been elaborated upon in our RTRRT
series.
* The false ego or mind is a catalog. The default mind is a thought
list. This list can be expanded when the new items fit this list;
otherwise the list collapses.
* Already adding a 13th constellation to the zodiac presented a
difficulty to the astrologers. A zodiac made of 22 or even 43
constellations are thus fart out of the list.
* It seems that the default mind is capable of storing only 12
archetypes along with a fictitious set of ascendants that mostly never
rise in the east. Someone ingeniously invented a set of rising
constellations that would ideally fit with those of the 12 sign
zodiac. From that time people believe that the 12 signs of the zodiac
rise in the east.
Minor Errors of the Past
* As it seems that there has been some astrological progress after all
in the past, we ask a crucial question. How is it possible that there
was any progress when we know that all calculations was bogus?
* Some planets move relatively more often close to the ecliptic. This
gives a feeling that most of the time the planets move near to
something that can be simulated as a two-dimensional solar system.
* The default mind is prone to believing with belief renewal. The
naive mind is especially set on believing in fraud since it is fraud
in itself. The devil or installer has already programmed such a mind
to operate in fraudulent ways all of the time. It is precisely this
energetic truth that provoked the "Do not tell lies" commandment.
* The primary direction is a basic, fast and easy predictive technique
that generally does not depend on sign or even house. Even with some
degree of error, astrologers could predict with some accuracy most of
the time. Since there was guessing in a noticeable number of attempts,
no one thought of correcting the calculations. The error went unseen
on account of a significant number of fair guesses from the
astrologer. In the case of the Moon, Venus and Pluto, of course, the
error rate was chaotically increased but due to lack of scientific
approach, the effect was left unrecorded. It seems that guessing the
approximate year of the event was more than sufficient proof of
astrological skill in the dark ages of European astrology.
The National Pride Effect
* In investigating the depth of superstition one cuts through a series
of masks that form the so-called persona or default human being. One
soon discovers that under the mask of the astrologer we find an
amusing writer at best. Often there is nothing but the mask to
represent the astrologer that is not there at all.
* The interest into astrology soon vanes under scientific stress. Most
of the astrologers are not interested in astrology proper. The
interest if there is any is on prestige, sex and social acceptance.
During the years we have not be able to find one single astrologer on
the planet that was able to investigate in such basic knowledge as the
ephemeris for the central star of our solar system and their own natal
Sun.
* One can pick just anyone from the street while initiating him into
predictive astrology over a pint of beer. There is nothing mysterious
in that. The fellow will be able to determine the year of the marriage
for any one after a 15 minutes "initiation".
* What puzzles one is that if anyone in the street is able to become a
predictive astrologer in minutes, how come that there are no
astrologers in the western world?
* Even with the use of sophisticated computer programs, Sabian symbols
and Yahoo, there are no astrologers on the planet. There was no one
able to determine the position of Eris (2003 UB313 on the descendant)
and the Moon (in Orion) for the WTC tragedy even as wise after the
event. In our opinion we have no astrology on the planet at all albeit
there were signs of intelligence some 3000 years ago in Egypt and
China.
* The Egyptian initiates must have known about Venus in Hydra much as
their Sumerian or Mayan counterparts. These civilizations knew the
interplay of Leo and Hydra with their stars known as Regulus and
Alphard.
* When it comes to judging astrology one cashes on national pride. The
predecessors that were never wrong serve as something like a cushion
to sleep on.
* The predecessors like Nostradamus, Newton or Kepler were of course
abundantly wrong. They would surely find fault in each other theories
but would never suppose they were all wrong in much the same way. To
be plain with Nostradamus, he was quite unable to determine precession
albeit his apparently cryptic but nonsensical formula was taken to
represent the entrance of Sun into the constellation of Aquarius on
spring equinox on an unknown year. The Moon in the "seventh house" has
really nothing to do with New Age. Nostradamus could calculate the
year but was miscalculating along with the mainstream already. His
Hebrew, Vedic and alternative counterparts were doing much the same
and when someone invented "sidereal" astrology, new error was added to
the already hilarious amount of error.
* During our research we measured the average error as concern the so-
called solar return map. This map is often used to predict the
following year for a client. Amateurs thus use the solar return map to
predict their own year ahead. The first measurements were reading
hilarious 270 degrees of error. After this experiment we decided to
drop both western and eastern astrology at once since they share the
same errors.
* The zodiac was determined by its 22 IAU constellations much as the
current set of eastern ascendants was set to 16. This is the current
state of the sky as seen from this planet that anyone can check with a
telescope or simulate on a computer.
* Our more than copious set of publications covers all facets of the
true astronomic horoscope, the precession of the ascendant, meridian
constellations, dwarf planets like Eris and a variety of special
objects in modern astrology. Our work is complete.
Klaudio Zic
Friday, March 16, 2007 00:54:02 CET Venice, Italy
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On 20 Apr, 12:41, Eris Astrology <i...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
NASA Sun Ephemeris and the Errors of the Past
Copyright (c) 2007 by Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.http://www.lulu.com/astrology
The NASA Sun Ephemeris in Modern Astrology
From the NASA JPL ephemeris for the Sun one immediately grasps the
concept of scientific astrology while discarding any other astrology
as nonsense. It wil immediately become clear that there is in fact
nothing like "sidereal" astrology or even bogus tropical astrology
anywhere in the real sky.
All of the above are "nonsense"! Your whole post is nonsense!
WH
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