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Taiwan Would Strike Back If Attacked
June 10, 2004 2111 GMT
Taiwanese Vice Minister of National Defense Tsai Ming-Hsien said June
9 that the U.S. Department of Defense has good intelligence that
indicates China plans to attack Taiwan in 2006 or 2008. Tsai said that
China will probably have a stronger navy and air force than Taiwan in
2006, but his country would be ready to retaliate, if necessary.
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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11 Jun 2004 03:36:50 PM |
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(Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message news:<7e4bfa4a.0406110438.45b46b67@posting.google.com>...
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Taiwan Would Strike Back If Attacked
June 10, 2004 2111 GMT
Taiwanese Vice Minister of National Defense Tsai Ming-Hsien said June
9 that the U.S. Department of Defense has good intelligence that
indicates China plans to attack Taiwan in 2006 or 2008. Tsai said that
China will probably have a stronger navy and air force than Taiwan in
2006, but his country would be ready to retaliate, if necessary.
Well they might like to resist, but history says it is a done deal,
come quietly or face a serious re-education.
LB
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| User: "Arnold Holbrook" |
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15 Jun 2004 02:09:28 PM |
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(Leigh_Bee) wrote in message news:<39cd5fe.0406111236.3fe5c217@posting.google.com>...
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message news:<7e4bfa4a.0406110438.45b46b67@posting.google.com>...
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Taiwan Would Strike Back If Attacked
June 10, 2004 2111 GMT
Taiwanese Vice Minister of National Defense Tsai Ming-Hsien said June
9 that the U.S. Department of Defense has good intelligence that
indicates China plans to attack Taiwan in 2006 or 2008. Tsai said that
China will probably have a stronger navy and air force than Taiwan in
2006, but his country would be ready to retaliate, if necessary.
Well they might like to resist, but history says it is a done deal,
come quietly or face a serious re-education.
LB
They are going to have to get throught the US Pacific Fleet first, and
there are many other fleet groups to back them up if they manage to
start overwhelming them with a "human boat wave". Chinese military
capabilities are very overestimated. Vietnam fought them to a
standstill back in 1979. Gonna be a alot of shark food in the Tawain
Straight if this happens, as well as a huge scrap metal yard. I hope
no sensitive/classfied and/or WMD equipment goes down to.
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| User: "Charly the Bastard" |
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30 Jun 2004 07:02:35 AM |
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Arnold Holbrook wrote:
leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au (Leigh_Bee) wrote in message news:<39cd5fe.0406111236.3fe5c217@posting.google.com>...
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message news:<7e4bfa4a.0406110438.45b46b67@posting.google.com>...
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Taiwan Would Strike Back If Attacked
June 10, 2004 2111 GMT
Taiwanese Vice Minister of National Defense Tsai Ming-Hsien said June
9 that the U.S. Department of Defense has good intelligence that
indicates China plans to attack Taiwan in 2006 or 2008. Tsai said that
China will probably have a stronger navy and air force than Taiwan in
2006, but his country would be ready to retaliate, if necessary.
Well they might like to resist, but history says it is a done deal,
come quietly or face a serious re-education.
LB
They are going to have to get throught the US Pacific Fleet first, and
there are many other fleet groups to back them up if they manage to
start overwhelming them with a "human boat wave". Chinese military
capabilities are very overestimated. Vietnam fought them to a
standstill back in 1979. Gonna be a alot of shark food in the Tawain
Straight if this happens, as well as a huge scrap metal yard. I hope
no sensitive/classfied and/or WMD equipment goes down to.
Yepper, the Taiwan Straight isn't Normandy, it's wide and deep. We'll hear 'em coming long before they get into tactical range
with a surface fleet. Did you ever think about where Taiwan gets their electric power?
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| User: "JS" |
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30 Jun 2004 01:56:22 PM |
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China has airlift for only 1 of its 3 airborne divisions, and sealift for no
more than a single division at best. China has no plans to "invade"
Taiwan...The attack will be in the form of a rain of MRBMs with converted
conventional warheads. These "Missile Brigades" have been building up on the
Chineese coast opposite Tiawan for years, and they now have over 600 ready
to go. A saturation attack would most likely overwhelm any Patriot AA
defense and do considerable damage. This is the "leverage" China plans to
apply to Taiwan. Physical invasion is out of the question.
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JS
Taiwan Would Strike Back If Attacked
June 10, 2004 2111 GMT
Taiwanese Vice Minister of National Defense Tsai Ming-Hsien said
June
9 that the U.S. Department of Defense has good intelligence that
indicates China plans to attack Taiwan in 2006 or 2008. Tsai said
that
China will probably have a stronger navy and air force than Taiwan
in
2006, but his country would be ready to retaliate, if necessary.
Well they might like to resist, but history says it is a done deal,
come quietly or face a serious re-education.
LB
They are going to have to get throught the US Pacific Fleet first, and
there are many other fleet groups to back them up if they manage to
start overwhelming them with a "human boat wave". Chinese military
capabilities are very overestimated. Vietnam fought them to a
standstill back in 1979. Gonna be a alot of shark food in the Tawain
Straight if this happens, as well as a huge scrap metal yard. I hope
no sensitive/classfied and/or WMD equipment goes down to.
Yepper, the Taiwan Straight isn't Normandy, it's wide and deep. We'll hear
'em coming long before they get into tactical range
with a surface fleet. Did you ever think about where Taiwan gets their
electric power?
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| User: "Charly the Bastard" |
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01 Jul 2004 06:24:25 PM |
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JS wrote:
China has airlift for only 1 of its 3 airborne divisions, and sealift for no
more than a single division at best. China has no plans to "invade"
Taiwan...The attack will be in the form of a rain of MRBMs with converted
conventional warheads. These "Missile Brigades" have been building up on the
Chineese coast opposite Tiawan for years, and they now have over 600 ready
to go. A saturation attack would most likely overwhelm any Patriot AA
defense and do considerable damage. This is the "leverage" China plans to
apply to Taiwan. Physical invasion is out of the question.
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Do you think that Taiwan will just sit there and take a pounding? I don't.
They'll probably respond with everything they've got, and go for a decapitation
in Peiking. An F-16 can carry a LOT of underwing stores...
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| User: "Arnold Holbrook" |
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06 Jul 2004 04:33:04 PM |
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Charly the ***** <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<40E49D29.9FD0A202@worldnet.att.net>...
JS wrote:
China has airlift for only 1 of its 3 airborne divisions, and sealift for no
more than a single division at best. China has no plans to "invade"
Taiwan...The attack will be in the form of a rain of MRBMs with converted
conventional warheads. These "Missile Brigades" have been building up on the
Chineese coast opposite Tiawan for years, and they now have over 600 ready
to go. A saturation attack would most likely overwhelm any Patriot AA
defense and do considerable damage. This is the "leverage" China plans to
apply to Taiwan. Physical invasion is out of the question.
-
Do you think that Taiwan will just sit there and take a pounding? I don't.
They'll probably respond with everything they've got, and go for a decapitation
in Peiking. An F-16 can carry a LOT of underwing stores...
http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=CHINA.HTM
July 6, 2004: The U.S. Navy will conduct a major "surge" exercise
(Summer Pulse 04) off the China coast later this Summer. Seven carrier
task forces (or "strike groups") will rendezvous near Taiwan and
conduct joint exercises with the Taiwanese navy. This is part of the
new Fleet Response Plan (FRP). The new plan keeps strike groups in
port more, making it possible to concentrate more of them at a major
trouble spot in a hurry. The FRP calls for sending six 'forward
deployed' (already at sea) or 'ready to surge' (in port) carrier task
forces to a trouble spot within 30 days. Two more task forces can be
sent with 90 days. This Summers exercise will be the largest
concentration of American naval force off the Chinese coast since
World War II. The last time this many carriers were in the western
Pacific was during the Vietnam war, when there were as many as seven
carriers off the Vietnamese coast, and coming and going within the
western Pacific, in support of combat operations in Vietnam.
Seven American carrier task forces means that the Chinese would have a
much harder time seizing Taiwan by force. Unless the Chinese can take
the island within a few weeks, seven American carrier groups is more
than the Chinese believe they can handle for the next 5-10 years. At
present, the Chinese are trying to muster sufficient air and naval
forces to deal with two American carriers. And even that is not a sure
thing. Putting seven American carriers off the Chinese coast not only
upsets Chinese military planning, but rubs the Chinese the wrong way
by pointing out Chinese military weakness.
Meanwhile, China will conduct it's annual Summer military exercises
with amphibious landings and cooperation between land, air and naval
forces. In other words, practice for an invasion of Taiwan. These
exercises will take place within the next two months.
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| User: "" |
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08 Jul 2004 12:56:33 AM |
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(Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message news:<7e4bfa4a.0407061333.7cb4d414@posting.google.com>...
Charly the ***** <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<40E49D29.9FD0A202@worldnet.att.net>...
JS wrote:
China has airlift for only 1 of its 3 airborne divisions, and sealift for no
more than a single division at best. China has no plans to "invade"
Taiwan...The attack will be in the form of a rain of MRBMs with converted
conventional warheads. These "Missile Brigades" have been building up on the
Chineese coast opposite Tiawan for years, and they now have over 600 ready
to go. A saturation attack would most likely overwhelm any Patriot AA
defense and do considerable damage. This is the "leverage" China plans to
apply to Taiwan. Physical invasion is out of the question.
-
Do you think that Taiwan will just sit there and take a pounding? I don't.
They'll probably respond with everything they've got, and go for a decapitation
in Peiking. An F-16 can carry a LOT of underwing stores...
http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=CHINA.HTM
July 6, 2004: The U.S. Navy will conduct a major "surge" exercise
(Summer Pulse 04) off the China coast later this Summer. Seven carrier
task forces (or "strike groups") will rendezvous near Taiwan and
(snip)
China could attack and the US will not counter
attack. This is one instance where the US show of
force is ALL bluff. The current Sino-Russia
"Friendship" Pact calls for mutual aid in case
either country is attacked. China attack
submarines also pose a threat even to a 7 carrier
task force.
If China wants to take Taiwan, anytime, they
could do so. All the US task force accomplishes
by being in the area is to become a valid target,
along with endangering the West Coast cities of
the US by ballistic missile attack from mainland
China, and all the US cities by mutual aid attack
from Russian ballistic missiles, and possible IRBM
nuclear missile attack from China installations
in Panama, plus terrorist organization attacks on
US soil that are expected before the presidential
elections anyway... If terrorist organizations
want to remove the US what they would do is
detonate a nuclear device in a China city, not an
American city, sometime in the next few months,
while launching a missile from in line with the
task force towards mainland China such that it
appears on China radar as appearing to come from
the task force.Think for a moment what would be the
US response to a foreign nuclear strike force
within range of every major city in this country?
And one of our cities is nuked? AND the foreign
nuclear strike force is from a country with a
government that has already launched a
preemptive attack against another sovereign country
and has previously used nuclear weapons in an
earlier war? By the way is your fallout shelter
stocked with food and water?
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| User: "madophia" |
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08 Jul 2004 06:18:33 AM |
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They will not do it if our subs and carrier(s) over there. Just
flexing their new arsenals of war. They're always opportunist when
good been gain. In 1979 all Vietnam regular divisions were in
Cambodian battle field, with over 1 millions strong they fail 60km
short of reaching Hanoi Hilton, 200K juries and deaths, they were
facing old men that past 50 and young that have not yet reach 17.
"We'll have breakfast in Hanoi and dinner in Saigon", China general's
announced before crossing the border. Too arrogant, they believed
without facing any regulars resistant they have the clear march all
the way. They forgot those old men were the survival of the last
war. These XVC snipers picked off China generals and officers like
flea. Just like a snake with out head and tail the middle just a
piece of shredded meat. Using tactical documents left behind by our
1st Air Cavalry, VC managed return quickly and takes tactical
positions behind enemy line. Like their Army, their water fleet(s)
will be no match for us or maybe in 2008 Japan fleet(s) might come
into the picture. In general Chinese are earth loving and business
greed people. But who know some might have the madness of ignorance.
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