From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
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Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United
States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister,
replied, "It's very good." Then he edited himself: "Well, not very
good, but it will generate immediate sympathy."
http://www.mideastjournal.com/israelexploitswtc.html
Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer
By JAMES BENNET, The New York Times
September 12, 2001
JERUSALEM, Sept. 11 — Israeli officials and most Palestinian leaders
condemned the attack on the United States today. But Israelis also
took cold comfort in concluding that Americans would now share more of
their fears, while some Palestinians rejoiced at the same thought.
There were declarations of sympathy for the victims from both Israelis
and Palestinians, as well as anxious telephone calls to friends and
relatives in the United States. But politics is never far behind any
human reaction here. And each side in this conflict saw in today's
attack confirmation of its view of the bond of the United States and
Israel — that the two nations fought, and now suffered, together.
Most West Bank towns were quiet today. But in Nablus, big crowds of
Palestinians marched in celebration, chanting "Beloved bin Laden,
strike Tel Aviv!" Some waved the flag of the terrorist organization
Hamas. "Let the Americans know the meaning of death," one marcher
said.
Some Palestinians expressed the hope that the assault would prompt the
United States to change its policies toward the Mideast conflict —
though pictures of Palestinians rejoicing were not likely to create
sympathy for their cause.
Yasir Arafat, leader of the Palestinian Authority, looked shaken as he
appeared before reporters in Gaza to deplore "this terrible act."
"We are completely shocked," Mr. Arafat said. "Completely shocked."
The Palestinian Authority tried to prevent pictures from being taken
of the marchers celebrating in Nablus, evidently very wary of the
potential effect on world opinion.
Israeli leaders, who have chafed at occasional American criticism of
their measures against Palestinians, said the day's attacks would
awaken the United States to the threat of global terrorism.
Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United
States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister,
replied, "It's very good." Then he edited himself: "Well, not very
good, but it will generate immediate sympathy." He predicted that the
attack would "strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because
we've experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States
has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror."
In an appearance late tonight, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon repeatedly
placed Israel on the same ground as the United States, calling the
assault an attack on "our common values" and declaring, "I believe
together we can defeat these forces of evil." He declared Wednesday a
day of mourning.
Uzi Landau, Israel's minister for public security, said that the
government had never imagined an assault of this size, let alone had
its intelligence network gleaned any warning of its approach. He
sounded astounded. "We had a number of different scenarios for large
terrorist attack," he said in a telephone interview tonight. "But this
particular concerted offensive against the United States, targeting
the World Trade buildings, at the same time hitting Washington — this
we didn't consider."
Mr. Sharon met for hours, late into the night, with his top ministers.
Israel increased its already high state of alert, closed its
international borders, and shut its airspace to all flights except
Israeli planes with armed guards aboard.
Asked if he thought Israel's conflict with the Palestinians was
connected to the attack, Mr. Landau said he did not know. He accused
Mr. Arafat of having laid "the foundation for modern terrorism, for
blowing planes up in the air, for doing atrocities without blinking."
In the streets of East Jerusalem, some drivers honked their horns in
triumph, and Suleiman Qassem, 20, a plumber, passed out sweets to
passerby when he heard the news. "The Americans give the Israelis
Apache helicopters to bomb our houses," he said. "They give them
diplomatic support and intelligence help on how to kill us."
But Shadi Jaber, 25, said he was more ambivalent. "I really don't know
if I'm happy or not," he said. "I don't know if it helps us or not. We
don't hate the American people, we just want to solve the problem." He
said that he had applied to the United States for a visa, but now
feared he would not get it. "Now they'll say, `You're an Arab, you're
a terrorist,' " he said.
*Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company
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by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
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The First Church of Common Sense
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The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
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(Johnny Asia) wrote in message news:<8b4ec0c2.0408010420.769a210e@posting.google.com>...
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United
States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister,
replied, "It's very good." Then he edited himself: "Well, not very
good, but it will generate immediate sympathy."
http://www.mideastjournal.com/israelexploitswtc.html
Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer
Yep.......gotta ask the question. "Who benifits the most"
HUNDREDS OF MOSSAD AGENTS CAUGHT RUNNING WILD IN AMERICA!
WHat happened to the five celebrating Israeli "movers", (Mossad
agents), who were arrested and placed in solitary confinement for
weeks after they were spotted in a white van suspected of attempting
to blow up the George Washington Bridge. We also know about the
Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems - Dominick Suter - then suddenly
abandoned his "moving company" and fled for Israel on 9-14. But there
were still more Israeli "movers" and other Israelis whose actions
raise serious suspicions. Even more suspicious is how they are always
quietly released and deported.
In October of 2001, three more Israeli "movers" were stopped in
Plymouth, PA because of their suspicious behavior. These "movers" were
seen dumping furniture near a restaurant dumpster! When the restaurant
manager approached the driver, a "Middle Eastern" man later identified
as Moshe Elmakias fled the scene. The manager made note of the truck's
sign which read "Moving Systems Incorporated" and called the police.
When the police spotted the truck, two other Israelis - Ayelet Reisler
and Ron Katar began acting suspiciously. The Plymouth police searched
the truck and found a video. The Israelis were taken into custody and
the video tape was played at the police station. The video revealed
footage of Chicago with zoomed in shots of the Sears Tower. The police
quickly alerted the FBI and it was also discovered that the Israelis
had falsified travel logs and phony paperwork on them. They were also
unable to provide a name and telephone number for the customer that
they claimed to have been working for. These Israelis were up to some
sort of dirty business, and you can be sure it had nothing to do with
moving furniture. These Israeli spies may have had a dark sense of
humor. The name of their "moving company" actually contained the word
MOSSAD embedded inside. Moving Systems Incorporated… MOving SyStems
IncorporAteD…….MOSSAD
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On October 10, 2001, CNN made a brief mention of a foiled terrorist
bomb plot in the Mexican Parliament building. They promised to bring
any further developments of this story to their viewers, but the
incident was never heard of again in America. But the story appeared
in bold headlines on the front page of the major Mexican newspapers
and was also posted on the official website of the Mexican Justice
Department. Two terror suspects were apprehended in the Mexican
Chamber of Deputies. Caught red-handed, they had in their possession a
high powered gun, nine hand grenades, and C-4 plastic explosives.
Within days, this blockbuster story not only disappeared from the
Mexican press, but the Israelis were quietly released and deported!
The two terrorists were Salvador Gerson Sunke and Sar ben Zui. Can you
guess what their ethnicity was? Sunke was a Mexican jew and Zui was a
colonel with the Israeli special forces (MOSSAD).
The story in El Diario de Mexico went on to reveal that the Zionist
terrorists had fake Pakistani passports on them. Can you say "false
flag operation?" .
Many Mexicans expressed shock at the release of the two Israelis. But
when you learn that Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Relations is a
Zionist named Jorge Gutman, it's not surprising! La Voz de Aztlan
(Mexican-American news service), in it's excellent investigative
report revealed:
"La Voz de Aztlan has learned that the Israeli Embassy used heavy
handed measures to have the two Israelis released. Very high level
emergency meetings took place between Mexican Secretary of Foreign
Relations Jorge Gutman, General Macedo de la Concha and a top Ariel
Sharon envoy who flew to Mexico City specially for that purpose. Elías
Luf of the Israeli Embassy worked night and day and their official
spokeswoman Hila Engelhart went into high gear after many hours of
complete silence. What went on during those high level meetings no one
knows, but many in Mexico are in disbelief at their release."
...........................
In November of 2001, 6 more suspicious Israelis were detained in
Florida. They had in their possession box cutters, oil pipeline plans,
and nuclear power plant plans. The local police called in the Feds and
Immigration officials took over the scene and released the men without
calling the FBI. The Jerusalem Post ran this story under the headline
"FBI Suspects Israelis of Nuclear Terrorism". The Miami Herald and the
Times of London also carried this amazing story and all revealed how
furious FBI officials were that these Israeli terror suspects with
nuclear power plant plans were set free by INS officials. Of course,
the corruption riddled FBI would only have caved into Zionist pressure
from the Justice Department's Criminal Division boss, Michael
Chertoff, and also from the ADL's "partner", FBI boss Robert Mueller -
who would no doubt have found a way to eventually release those
Israeli terror suspects anyway.
...............................
In December, 2001, the Los Angeles Times published the story of how
two jewish terrorists were arrested by the FBI for plotting to blow up
the office of US Congressman of Arab descent - Darrell Issa (R-CA),
and a California mosque. Irv Rubin and Earl Kruger of the Jewish
Defense League (JDL) were charged with conspiracy to destroy a
building by means of explosives. This story got brief national
coverage but quickly disappeared too. These Zionists sure love blowing
up buildings and killing innocent people don't they?
...........................
In May of 2002, yet another moving van was pulled over in Oak Harbor,
Washington near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station. Fox News
reported that the van was pulled over for speeding shortly after
midnight. The passengers told the police they were delivering
furniture, but because it was so late at night, the police weren't
buying the story. A bomb sniffing dog was brought in and the dog
detected the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosives in the truck
(great stuff for demolishing buildings!) Both Fox News and the
Ha'aretz newspaper of Israel reported that the two "movers" were
Israelis.
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In December, 2002, Ariel Sharon made the amazing claim that Al-Qaeda
agents were operating inside of Israel. But when Palestinian
authorities apprehended the suspects, they turned out to be
Palestinian traitors impersonating Al-qaeda agents for the MOSSAD!
From the Sydney Morning Herald of Austrailia:
"Palestinian security forces have arrested a group of Palestinians for
collaborating with Israel and posing as operatives of Osama bin
Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network, a senior official said yesterday.
...The arrests come two days after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
charged al-Qaeda militants were operating in Gaza and in Lebanon.
It was considered a surprise because the Gaza Strip is virtually
sealed off by Israeli troops. The hardline Israeli leader also charged
other members of the terror group were cooperating with Lebanon's
Shi'ite militia Hizbollah"
............................
According to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200
Israeli spies were arrested. It was the largest spy ring to ever be
uncovered in the history of the United States. The Washington Post
also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection
with the 9-11 investigation. US. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did
a excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations
into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series
after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so
far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its
website! In it's place was posted a chilling, Orwellian message which
reads: "This story no longer exists." (20) Fortunately for the sake of
history, the FOX transcripts were copied onto to many other websites
and all four parts are available for your review.
The FOX series and other mainstream news media sources revealed that
many of these Israelis were army veterans with electronics and
explosives expertise. Many of them failed lie detector tests. FBI
agents told FOX that some of their past investigations were
compromised because suspects had been tipped off by Israeli
wiretapping specialists. It was discovered that Israeli companies such
as Comverse and Amdocs have the capability to tap American telephones
(great for blackmailing all those wife-cheating politicians!) FBI
agents also told FOX they believed the Israelis had advance knowledge
of the 9-11 attacks. (which certainly would explain why no Israelis
died in the WTC) Still another US official informed FOX that some of
the detained Israelis actually had links to 9-11, but he refused to
describe the nature of those links. The FBI official told FOX's Carl
Cameron:
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell
you about the evidence that has been gathered. It is classified
information."
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Then there was that small army of Israeli "art students" who were
arrested for trying to sneak into secured US Federal buildings and
staking out 36 Department of Defense sites. Some of these suspicious
"art students" even showed up at the homes of Federal employees. Ron
Hatchett, a Department of Defense analyst, told Channel 11, KHOU news
in Houston that he believed that the "art students" were gathering
intelligence for future attacks. Here's an excerpt from the October 1,
2001 KHOU investigative report by Anna Werner:
"Could federal buildings in Houston and other cities be under
surveillance by foreign groups? That's what some experts are asking
after federal law enforcement and security officials - nationally and
in Houston - described for the 11 News Defenders a curious pattern of
behavior by a group of people claiming to be Israeli art students."
"Hatchett says they could be doing what he would be doing if he were a
terrorist, sizing up the situation: "We need to know what are the
entrances to this particular building. We need to know what are the
surveillance cameras that are operating. We need to know how many
guards are at this operation, when do they take breaks?" Says
Hatchett: This is not a bunch of kids selling artwork."
"A former Defense Department analyst, Hatchett believes groups may be
gathering intelligence for possible future attacks. "Some
organization, thinking in terms of a potential retaliation against the
U.S. government could be scouting out potential targets and … looking
for targets that would be vulnerable."
And a source tells the Defenders of another federal memo, stating that
besides Houston and Dallas, the same thing has happened at sites in
New York, Florida, and six other states, and even more worrisome, at
36 sensitive Department of Defense sites. "One defense site you can
explain," says Hatchett, "well that was just a serendipitous, ……..
Thirty-six? That's a pattern."
Remember the official motto of the Mossad - By Way of Deception Thou
Shalt Do War. Are you getting the picture? Can you say "false flag
operations"?
In a follow up report a few days later, KHOU Channel 11 revealed that
Dallas was also targetted:
"11 News reported how people claiming to be "Israeli art students"
might be trying to sneak into federal buildings and defense sites, and
even doing surveillance. And at least one expert said he thought it
could all be preparation for an attack. Well, now federal sources say
they are not ruling out that all of this could be connected with the
hijackings on September 11, because of events in another Texas city.
In Dallas, the so-called students hit early this year at the city's
FBI building, the Drug Enforcement Administration and at the Earle
Cabell Federal building, where guards found one student wandering the
halls with a floor plan of the building.
So the Dallas INS went on the alert, finding and arresting 15 people
in March. Thirteen claimed to be Israelis and two are professed
Colombians. But according to sources, once again their passports were
phony. And another federal source says some of those arrested also
appeared to have lists of federal employees and their home addresses.
All 15 "students" have now been deported.
Now do you remember the Mossad's "warning" about the 200 "Al-Qaeda
terrorists" said to have been preparing major attacks in the US? At
the time of this writing, we are three years into the largest
investigation in American history, and not one of these 200
"terrorists" has yet to be uncovered. But 200 Israeli spies were
uncovered, among them many military members, electronics experts,
wiretapping and phone tapping specialists, and explosives experts with
the skill to bring down tall buildings. Logic and common sense leads
to the conclusion that the "200 Al Qaeda terrorists" were in reality,
200 Israelli Zionist terrorists sent to frame the Arabs for terrorist
attacks and drag America into a war.
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01 Aug 2004 08:57:46 PM |
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HUNDREDS OF MOSSAD AGENTS CAUGHT RUNNING WILD IN AMERICA!
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02 Aug 2004 07:21:53 AM |
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
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04 Aug 2004 08:20:33 AM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:39csg0pf33dn44qjs1nhi2gks9nmu1lgc6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c2
1126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I'm not sure that it does.. I imagine Mossad are well aware of what would
happen to Israel/US relations if this DID turn out to be a Mossad plot and
was discovered. What is far more likely IMHO is that Israel is no different
from the rest of the world in terms of the number of idiots it contains and
these 5 (if they were behaving as desribed) were just arseholes who were
thinking of the benefits they as Israelis might be getting from the incident
whilst completely disregarding the human tragedy involved.
Of course, daring to say that Israeli society contains as many arseholes as
any other society is no doubt going to be deemed "anti-semitic" by our
resident child support dodging deserter pothead Canadian mental case.
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04 Aug 2004 11:51:48 AM |
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"tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:39csg0pf33dn44qjs1nhi2gks9nmu1lgc6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c2
1126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I'm not sure that it does.. I imagine Mossad are well aware of what would
happen to Israel/US relations if this DID turn out to be a Mossad plot and
was discovered. What is far more likely IMHO is that Israel is no different
from the rest of the world in terms of the number of idiots it contains and
these 5 (if they were behaving as desribed) were just arseholes who were
thinking of the benefits they as Israelis might be getting from the incident
whilst completely disregarding the human tragedy involved.
Of course, daring to say that Israeli society contains as many arseholes as
any other society is no doubt going to be deemed "anti-semitic" by our
resident child support dodging deserter pothead Canadian mental case.
rubbish
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| User: "Cuan" |
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05 Aug 2004 01:41:44 AM |
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:51:48 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
"tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:39csg0pf33dn44qjs1nhi2gks9nmu1lgc6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c2
1126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I'm not sure that it does.. I imagine Mossad are well aware of what would
happen to Israel/US relations if this DID turn out to be a Mossad plot and
was discovered. What is far more likely IMHO is that Israel is no different
from the rest of the world in terms of the number of idiots it contains and
these 5 (if they were behaving as desribed) were just arseholes who were
thinking of the benefits they as Israelis might be getting from the incident
whilst completely disregarding the human tragedy involved.
Of course, daring to say that Israeli society contains as many arseholes as
any other society is no doubt going to be deemed "anti-semitic" by our
resident child support dodging deserter pothead Canadian mental case.
rubbish
Nope. I'm also sure Jean will regard that as an anti-semitic
statement.
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02 Aug 2004 11:15:08 AM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I smelled it immediately. However, it could not have happened without
CIA/neocon traitor connivance.
Grantland
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| User: "Cuan" |
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03 Aug 2004 02:53:23 AM |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:15:08 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I smelled it immediately. However, it could not have happened without
CIA/neocon traitor connivance.
True. All indications suggest that there was some knowledge of the
attacks prior to the fact. What I couldn't get my head around was how
the CIA could have ploughed an aircraft into a national icon causing
the deaths of hundreds of their fellow Americans. The involvement of
an external entity such as the Mossad offers to fill the hole in that
theory.
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| User: "Grantland" |
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03 Aug 2004 10:17:52 AM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:15:08 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I smelled it immediately. However, it could not have happened without
CIA/neocon traitor connivance.
True. All indications suggest that there was some knowledge of the
attacks prior to the fact. What I couldn't get my head around was how
the CIA could have ploughed an aircraft into a national icon causing
the deaths of hundreds of their fellow Americans. The involvement of
an external entity such as the Mossad offers to fill the hole in that
theory.
1. The first attack was early - before office hours. Hence only
low-level security/cleaning staff/secretaries would be hit, and in
small numbers, *particularly* since the strike was very high, and
evacuation obvous, simple and unimpeded. The vast majority of
Bigshots would not have even entered the building.
The second attack would be at a largely empty building (that was the
plan). Nobody expected fools to arrive for work with the other tower
burning.., and then some moron to publically advise staying put, and a
few moronic sheeple to actually obey him. Those that died in the
second building were extra, unexpected "collateral damage".
Al Quada would have nailed 50 thousand, easily. The Neocon/Mossad/CIA
conspiracy was ok with <3000.
Grantland
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03 Aug 2004 06:37:48 PM |
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hahahahaha idiots who still spread their loser's lies even after the
9-11 commission debunked ALL of them to the BONE.
Ah, but that is your fate of losers, to see Jews in your respective
soups... Just don't try to have anyone with a brain here agree with you
assholes.
J.
Grantland a écrit:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:15:08 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I smelled it immediately. However, it could not have happened without
CIA/neocon traitor connivance.
True. All indications suggest that there was some knowledge of the
attacks prior to the fact. What I couldn't get my head around was how
the CIA could have ploughed an aircraft into a national icon causing
the deaths of hundreds of their fellow Americans. The involvement of
an external entity such as the Mossad offers to fill the hole in that
theory.
1. The first attack was early - before office hours. Hence only
low-level security/cleaning staff/secretaries would be hit, and in
small numbers, *particularly* since the strike was very high, and
evacuation obvous, simple and unimpeded. The vast majority of
Bigshots would not have even entered the building.
The second attack would be at a largely empty building (that was the
plan). Nobody expected fools to arrive for work with the other tower
burning.., and then some moron to publically advise staying put, and a
few moronic sheeple to actually obey him. Those that died in the
second building were extra, unexpected "collateral damage".
Al Quada would have nailed 50 thousand, easily. The Neocon/Mossad/CIA
conspiracy was ok with <3000.
Grantland
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04 Aug 2004 03:19:34 AM |
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 23:37:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
hahahahaha idiots who still spread their loser's lies even after the
9-11 commission debunked ALL of them to the BONE.
You seem to be awfully selective about what you agree with regarding
the 9/11 Commission's findings.
Ah, but that is your fate of losers, to see Jews in your respective
soups... Just don't try to have anyone with a brain here agree with you
assholes.
I take it you're the only one? Damn, we're hopelessly outnumbered.
Grantland a écrit:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:15:08 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I smelled it immediately. However, it could not have happened without
CIA/neocon traitor connivance.
True. All indications suggest that there was some knowledge of the
attacks prior to the fact. What I couldn't get my head around was how
the CIA could have ploughed an aircraft into a national icon causing
the deaths of hundreds of their fellow Americans. The involvement of
an external entity such as the Mossad offers to fill the hole in that
theory.
1. The first attack was early - before office hours. Hence only
low-level security/cleaning staff/secretaries would be hit, and in
small numbers, *particularly* since the strike was very high, and
evacuation obvous, simple and unimpeded. The vast majority of
Bigshots would not have even entered the building.
The second attack would be at a largely empty building (that was the
plan). Nobody expected fools to arrive for work with the other tower
burning.., and then some moron to publically advise staying put, and a
few moronic sheeple to actually obey him. Those that died in the
second building were extra, unexpected "collateral damage".
Al Quada would have nailed 50 thousand, easily. The Neocon/Mossad/CIA
conspiracy was ok with <3000.
Grantland
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04 Aug 2004 12:08:55 PM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 23:37:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
hahahahaha idiots who still spread their loser's lies even after the
9-11 commission debunked ALL of them to the BONE.
You seem to be awfully selective about what you agree with regarding
the 9/11 Commission's findings.
Ah, but that is your fate of losers, to see Jews in your respective
soups... Just don't try to have anyone with a brain here agree with you
assholes.
I take it you're the only one? Damn, we're hopelessly outnumbered.
Nah, it is not because you anti-semite have infested this NG that you
represent ANYTHING relevant.
You don't have a say on this NG about the French Seer, you are frauds
here. I talk about those who would belong here, and that you assholes
chase away with your hate mongering. Nazi parasites.
J.
Grantland a écrit:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:15:08 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:26:03 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
All this time I hadn't really considered the possible involvement of
the Mossad. I've been looking more at shady cliques in the US gov't.
This makes much more sense when I think about it.
I smelled it immediately. However, it could not have happened without
CIA/neocon traitor connivance.
True. All indications suggest that there was some knowledge of the
attacks prior to the fact. What I couldn't get my head around was how
the CIA could have ploughed an aircraft into a national icon causing
the deaths of hundreds of their fellow Americans. The involvement of
an external entity such as the Mossad offers to fill the hole in that
theory.
1. The first attack was early - before office hours. Hence only
low-level security/cleaning staff/secretaries would be hit, and in
small numbers, *particularly* since the strike was very high, and
evacuation obvous, simple and unimpeded. The vast majority of
Bigshots would not have even entered the building.
The second attack would be at a largely empty building (that was the
plan). Nobody expected fools to arrive for work with the other tower
burning.., and then some moron to publically advise staying put, and a
few moronic sheeple to actually obey him. Those that died in the
second building were extra, unexpected "collateral damage".
Al Quada would have nailed 50 thousand, easily. The Neocon/Mossad/CIA
conspiracy was ok with <3000.
Grantland
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| User: "Cuan" |
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05 Aug 2004 06:08:23 AM |
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:08:55 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 23:37:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
hahahahaha idiots who still spread their loser's lies even after the
9-11 commission debunked ALL of them to the BONE.
You seem to be awfully selective about what you agree with regarding
the 9/11 Commission's findings.
Ah, but that is your fate of losers, to see Jews in your respective
soups... Just don't try to have anyone with a brain here agree with you
assholes.
I take it you're the only one? Damn, we're hopelessly outnumbered.
Nah, it is not because you anti-semite have infested this NG that you
represent ANYTHING relevant.
You don't have a say on this NG about the French Seer, you are frauds
here. I talk about those who would belong here, and that you assholes
chase away with your hate mongering. Nazi parasites.
LOL ... you're funny.
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01 Aug 2004 04:17:43 AM |
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We know Palies were really dancing. THIS has been filmed.
But NO Israeli, and of course, you cannot find such an article in the
New york times that would speak of Israelis. This is more lies from
anti-semite nazis.
This NGs posts is 90% disinformation by anti-semites. It is paradoxical,
given that it is a newsgroup about the modern day Seer whose grandfather
had been Jewish at one time.
But that lack of intelligence is what evil is and it is really found
everywhere, by people who have nothing else to do to valorize their
otherwise total failure as individuals.
J.
but this is totally
Grantland a écrit:
From: (Johnny Asia)
http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1615&sid=ffd27c21126ef54c61389991e5f5c4d2
We've all heard the stories of the 5 Israelis recording and
celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, but what was
conspicuously absent from such reports is when the recording began. I
was always left with the impression that they were just driving down
the highway, saw the fire and smoke plumes pouring out of the first
tower, pulled over and started to film it. However, if you read the
news reports before the identity of the 5 men were released it
suggests something entirely different.
Here is a quote from a Foxnews story, "The New York Times reported
Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at
the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen
congratulating one another afterwards."
The salient word is "prior." Also they have "cameras" (plural) set up
to record the event. In other words, this is smoking gun proof of
Mossad foreknowledge of the attack.
Here is a quote from a September 13th AP article, "Five men suspected
of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up
cameras to record the atrocity, it emerged today.
Five suspects allegedly involved in the atrocities are said to have
set up cameras on the banks of the Hudson to record the crashes
The men set up cameras on the west bank of the Hudson River, trained
them on the twin towers to capture the attacks and apparently
congratulated each other when the crashes occurred, the New York Times
reported."
So this was not a spontaneous event, but an arranged event to record
the attack.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
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| Title: Re: More nazi disinformation by grantland. Re: The 5 Dancing Israelis on 9/11 |
01 Aug 2004 11:08:03 AM |
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I was watching TV news and I actually saw and heard Netanyahu say this:
September 12, 2001,
Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United
States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister,
replied, "It's very good." Then he edited himself: "Well, not very
good, but it will generate immediate sympathy."
http://www.mideastjournal.com/israelexploitswtc.html
Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer
By JAMES BENNET, The New York Times
September 12, 2001
JERUSALEM, Sept. 11 — Israeli officials and most Palestinian leaders
condemned the attack on the United States today. But Israelis also
took cold comfort in concluding that Americans would now share more of
their fears, while some Palestinians rejoiced at the same thought.
There were declarations of sympathy for the victims from both Israelis
and Palestinians, as well as anxious telephone calls to friends and
relatives in the United States. But politics is never far behind any
human reaction here. And each side in this conflict saw in today's
attack confirmation of its view of the bond of the United States and
Israel — that the two nations fought, and now suffered, together.
Most West Bank towns were quiet today. But in Nablus, big crowds of
Palestinians marched in celebration, chanting "Beloved bin Laden,
strike Tel Aviv!" Some waved the flag of the terrorist organization
Hamas. "Let the Americans know the meaning of death," one marcher
said.
Some Palestinians expressed the hope that the assault would prompt the
United States to change its policies toward the Mideast conflict —
though pictures of Palestinians rejoicing were not likely to create
sympathy for their cause.
Yasir Arafat, leader of the Palestinian Authority, looked shaken as he
appeared before reporters in Gaza to deplore "this terrible act."
"We are completely shocked," Mr. Arafat said. "Completely shocked."
The Palestinian Authority tried to prevent pictures from being taken
of the marchers celebrating in Nablus, evidently very wary of the
potential effect on world opinion.
Israeli leaders, who have chafed at occasional American criticism of
their measures against Palestinians, said the day's attacks would
awaken the United States to the threat of global terrorism.
Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United
States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister,
replied, "It's very good." Then he edited himself: "Well, not very
good, but it will generate immediate sympathy." He predicted that the
attack would "strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because
we've experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States
has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror."
In an appearance late tonight, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon repeatedly
placed Israel on the same ground as the United States, calling the
assault an attack on "our common values" and declaring, "I believe
together we can defeat these forces of evil." He declared Wednesday a
day of mourning.
Uzi Landau, Israel's minister for public security, said that the
government had never imagined an assault of this size, let alone had
its intelligence network gleaned any warning of its approach. He
sounded astounded. "We had a number of different scenarios for large
terrorist attack," he said in a telephone interview tonight. "But this
particular concerted offensive against the United States, targeting
the World Trade buildings, at the same time hitting Washington — this
we didn't consider."
Mr. Sharon met for hours, late into the night, with his top ministers.
Israel increased its already high state of alert, closed its
international borders, and shut its airspace to all flights except
Israeli planes with armed guards aboard.
Asked if he thought Israel's conflict with the Palestinians was
connected to the attack, Mr. Landau said he did not know. He accused
Mr. Arafat of having laid "the foundation for modern terrorism, for
blowing planes up in the air, for doing atrocities without blinking."
In the streets of East Jerusalem, some drivers honked their horns in
triumph, and Suleiman Qassem, 20, a plumber, passed out sweets to
passerby when he heard the news. "The Americans give the Israelis
Apache helicopters to bomb our houses," he said. "They give them
diplomatic support and intelligence help on how to kill us."
But Shadi Jaber, 25, said he was more ambivalent. "I really don't know
if I'm happy or not," he said. "I don't know if it helps us or not. We
don't hate the American people, we just want to solve the problem." He
said that he had applied to the United States for a visa, but now
feared he would not get it. "Now they'll say, `You're an Arab, you're
a terrorist,' " he said.
*Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company
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"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
Johnny Asia, Pope-About-Town
The First Church of Common Sense
Want to know what's REALLY going on in Iraq?
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
Cowboys and Idiots: The Reagan Administration
Ronnies' "Brave freedom fighters" are now Bushs'
"evildoers" who "hate our freedoms".
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/reagan.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
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01 Aug 2004 07:07:29 PM |
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Johnny Asia a écrit:
I was watching TV news and I actually saw and heard Netanyahu say this:
September 12, 2001,
Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United
States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister,
replied, "It's very good." Then he edited himself: "Well, not very
good, but it will generate immediate sympathy."
http://www.mideastjournal.com/israelexploitswtc.html
Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer
By JAMES BENNET, The New York Times
September 12, 2001
JERUSALEM, Sept. 11 — Israeli officials and most Palestinian leaders
condemned the attack on the United States today. But Israelis also
took cold comfort in concluding that Americans would now share more of
their fears, while some Palestinians rejoiced at the same thought.
Exactly. So what? This doesn't address the lies.
There were declarations of sympathy for the victims from both Israelis
and Palestinians, as well as anxious telephone calls to friends and
relatives in the United States. But politics is never far behind any
human reaction here. And each side in this conflict saw in today's
attack confirmation of its view of the bond of the United States and
Israel — that the two nations fought, and now suffered, together.
Most West Bank towns were quiet today. But in Nablus, big crowds of
Palestinians marched in celebration, chanting "Beloved bin Laden,
strike Tel Aviv!" Some waved the flag of the terrorist organization
Hamas. "Let the Americans know the meaning of death," one marcher
said.
We have seen Palies dance. There were no Israelis dancing.
This was the lie I was addressing.
That Jews just realized that Muslim murderers assholes were going to be
perceived for what they are by the US is merely a fact, and might I add,
at last. So what?
Where does it say that Israelis were dancing. Nowhere in the article.
This is a total lie.
Which was my point.
Yours? What is it? THat palies think that THEIR violence will solve
anything? they are idiots then aren't they.
J.
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02 Aug 2004 06:05:46 AM |
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On September 11, five Israeli army veterans were arrested by the FBI
after several witnesses saw them “dancing“, “high-fiving“, and
“celebrating” as they took pictures of the World Trade Center disaster
from across the river in New Jersey. Steven Gordon was the lawyer who
volunteered to represent the five Israelis. He was asked by a Hebrew
newspaper why the five men were being detained by the FBI. Here’s what
Gordon told Yediot America:
"On the day of the disaster, three of the five boys went up on the
roof of the building where the company office is located," said
Gordon. "I'm not sure if they saw the twin towers collapse, but, in
any event, they photographed the ruins right afterwards. One of the
neighbors who saw them called the police and claimed they were posing,
dancing and laughing, against the background of the burning towers….
"Anyhow, the three left the roof, took an Urban truck, and drove to a
parking lot, located about a five-minute drive from the offices. They
parked, stood on the roof of the truck to get a better view of the
destroyed towers and took photographs. A woman who was in the building
above the lot testified that she saw them smiling and exchanging
high-fives. She and another neighbor called the police and reported on
Middle-Eastern looking people dancing on the truck. They copied and
reported the license plates. (2)
http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/jan02/7.shtml
The Ha’aretz new service of Israel reported:
“The Foreign Ministry said it had been informed by the consulate in
New York that the FBI had arrested the five for "puzzling behavior."
They are said to have had been caught videotaping the disaster and
shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery.” (2b)
(emphasis added)
http://www.intellex.com/~rigs/page1/wtc/jjoy.htm
Ha’aretz went on to describe how the FBI field agents then subjected
the five Israelis to days of brutal interrogation, torture, and
solitary confinement.
When their photos were developed, it was revealed that the dancing
Israelis were smiling in the foreground of the New York massacre. (3)
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=5303
According to ABC’s 20/20 attempted whitewash of the incident, in
addition to their outrageous and highly suspicious behavior, the five
also had in their possession the following items; box-cutters,
European passports, and $4700 cash hidden in a sock. (4)
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html
Why were these Israeli agents so happy about the horrible massacre
that was unfolding right before their very eyes? What evil spirit
could possess people who are supposed to be America's "allies", and
who receive billions of dollars in financial and military aid from US
taxpayers each year , to publicly rejoice as innocent people
(including many American jews) were burning to death and jumping out
of 110 story buildings? Could it be that these happy Israeli army
veterans were in some way linked to this monstrous attack? That’s what
officials close to the investigation initially told The Bergen Record
newspaper of New Jersey. (5)
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html
As incredible, as ridiculous, and as "paranoid" as that belief may
appear to you at this point, the fact is that certain elements within
the Israeli government, and International Zionist movement in general,
have a long history of attacking the USA and framing Arabs in order to
gain support from the US. Before we begin to piece together what
really transpired on 9-11, it is absolutely critical that we first
review some historical precedents regarding Israel's and International
Zionism's treacherous history of manipulating America (and other
nations) for their own selfish purposes.
http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: More nazi disinformation by grantland. Re: The 5 Dancing Israelison 9/11 |
02 Aug 2004 09:23:51 AM |
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Johnny Asia a écrit:
[snip anti-semite *****]
Funny, this link you just gave me proves my point:
http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/jan02/7.shtml
Quote:
Midnight Express
From Yediot America
November 2, 2001
Note to those being referred to this article by one of several
antisemitic, conspiracy-theory web sites: Please notice that these sites
have left out the following important passage: "The five denied dancing.
I presume the neighbor was not near them and does not understand Hebrew.
Furthermore, the neighbor complained that the cheerful gang on the roof
spoke Arabic. As far as I understand it, that neighbor has had previous
problems with the company, and she could have been waiting for an
opportunity to avenge the owners." In other words, the one "witness" was
not telling the truth.
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(... my point) Which is that anti-semites LIKE YOU love to refer people
there, but there is absolutely no basis for the matter.
And that this is pure anti-semite ***** spread around for hate purposes.
Funny that you snip the important part, which point to the nature of the
claim, at the very behginning of the article, hey, anti-semite *****.
J.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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03 Aug 2004 03:01:57 AM |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:23:51 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Johnny Asia a écrit:
[snip anti-semite *****]
Funny, this link you just gave me proves my point:
http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/jan02/7.shtml
Quote:
Midnight Express
From Yediot America
November 2, 2001
Note to those being referred to this article by one of several
antisemitic, conspiracy-theory web sites: Please notice that these sites
have left out the following important passage: "The five denied dancing.
I presume the neighbor was not near them and does not understand Hebrew.
Furthermore, the neighbor complained that the cheerful gang on the roof
spoke Arabic. As far as I understand it, that neighbor has had previous
problems with the company, and she could have been waiting for an
opportunity to avenge the owners." In other words, the one "witness" was
not telling the truth.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(... my point) Which is that anti-semites LIKE YOU love to refer people
there, but there is absolutely no basis for the matter.
And that this is pure anti-semite ***** spread around for hate purposes.
Funny that you snip the important part, which point to the nature of the
claim, at the very behginning of the article, hey, anti-semite *****.
Just face it, Jean. Your poor holocaust victims are now sitting
comfortably at the top of the food chain. I can smell those fires
burning already.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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03 Aug 2004 02:02:37 PM |
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Cuan, why don't you stick to anti-semite newsgroups. You are merely some
polluting excrement here.
J.
Cuan a écrit:
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:23:51 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Johnny Asia a écrit:
[snip anti-semite *****]
Funny, this link you just gave me proves my point:
http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/jan02/7.shtml
Quote:
Midnight Express
From Yediot America
November 2, 2001
Note to those being referred to this article by one of several
antisemitic, conspiracy-theory web sites: Please notice that these sites
have left out the following important passage: "The five denied dancing.
I presume the neighbor was not near them and does not understand Hebrew.
Furthermore, the neighbor complained that the cheerful gang on the roof
spoke Arabic. As far as I understand it, that neighbor has had previous
problems with the company, and she could have been waiting for an
opportunity to avenge the owners." In other words, the one "witness" was
not telling the truth.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(... my point) Which is that anti-semites LIKE YOU love to refer people
there, but there is absolutely no basis for the matter.
And that this is pure anti-semite ***** spread around for hate purposes.
Funny that you snip the important part, which point to the nature of the
claim, at the very behginning of the article, hey, anti-semite *****.
Just face it, Jean. Your poor holocaust victims are now sitting
comfortably at the top of the food chain. I can smell those fires
burning already.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: More nazi disinformation by grantland. Re: The 5 Dancing Israelis on 9/11 |
04 Aug 2004 03:03:42 AM |
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:02:37 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan, why don't you stick to anti-semite newsgroups. You are merely some
polluting excrement here.
oh. i thought this *was* an anti-semite group. :-|
Cuan a écrit:
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:23:51 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Johnny Asia a écrit:
[snip anti-semite *****]
Funny, this link you just gave me proves my point:
http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/jan02/7.shtml
Quote:
Midnight Express
From Yediot America
November 2, 2001
Note to those being referred to this article by one of several
antisemitic, conspiracy-theory web sites: Please notice that these sites
have left out the following important passage: "The five denied dancing.
I presume the neighbor was not near them and does not understand Hebrew.
Furthermore, the neighbor complained that the cheerful gang on the roof
spoke Arabic. As far as I understand it, that neighbor has had previous
problems with the company, and she could have been waiting for an
opportunity to avenge the owners." In other words, the one "witness" was
not telling the truth.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(... my point) Which is that anti-semites LIKE YOU love to refer people
there, but there is absolutely no basis for the matter.
And that this is pure anti-semite ***** spread around for hate purposes.
Funny that you snip the important part, which point to the nature of the
claim, at the very behginning of the article, hey, anti-semite *****.
Just face it, Jean. Your poor holocaust victims are now sitting
comfortably at the top of the food chain. I can smell those fires
burning already.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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04 Aug 2004 12:37:37 PM |
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No wonder, with all the idiots who parasite this NG.
But buy a dictionary and don't only read the topic. Understand it.
Same goes for all your anti-semite butt buddies.
And get out of here.
Nostradamus grand father was a Jew at one point, and prophecies do not
concern idiots.
J.
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:02:37 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan, why don't you stick to anti-semite newsgroups. You are merely some
polluting excrement here.
oh. i thought this *was* an anti-semite group. :-|
Cuan a écrit:
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:23:51 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Johnny Asia a écrit:
[snip anti-semite *****]
Funny, this link you just gave me proves my point:
http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/jan02/7.shtml
Quote:
Midnight Express
From Yediot America
November 2, 2001
Note to those being referred to this article by one of several
antisemitic, conspiracy-theory web sites: Please notice that these sites
have left out the following important passage: "The five denied dancing.
I presume the neighbor was not near them and does not understand Hebrew.
Furthermore, the neighbor complained that the cheerful gang on the roof
spoke Arabic. As far as I understand it, that neighbor has had previous
problems with the company, and she could have been waiting for an
opportunity to avenge the owners." In other words, the one "witness" was
not telling the truth.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(... my point) Which is that anti-semites LIKE YOU love to refer people
there, but there is absolutely no basis for the matter.
And that this is pure anti-semite ***** spread around for hate purposes.
Funny that you snip the important part, which point to the nature of the
claim, at the very behginning of the article, hey, anti-semite *****.
Just face it, Jean. Your poor holocaust victims are now sitting
comfortably at the top of the food chain. I can smell those fires
burning already.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: More nazi disinformation by grantland. Re: The 5 Dancing Israelis on 9/11 |
05 Aug 2004 02:04:11 AM |
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:37:37 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
No wonder, with all the idiots who parasite this NG.
But buy a dictionary and don't only read the topic. Understand it.
Same goes for all your anti-semite butt buddies.
And get out of here.
Nostradamus grand father was a Jew at one point, and prophecies do not
concern idiots.
Good. At least we don't have to worry about Bush being the
anti-christ then.
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:02:37 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan, why don't you stick to anti-semite newsgroups. You are merely some
polluting excrement here.
oh. i thought this *was* an anti-semite group. :-|
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