A 7.0 magnitude quake is a major geologic event. But while one 7.0
earthquake could be considered significant, regardless of damages or
casualties, four earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or larger all occuring
within two months of each other would be even more noteworthy --
especially if they were predicted in the order that they occured.
Do I have your attention now?
That's why I would like to go on the record once again to remind
everyone that Gordon-Michael Scallion predicted at least seven or eight
years ago that before California would be devastated by "The Big One",
that three earthquakes of this magnitude would strike--in order--Japan,
the Indian Ocean, and South America, to be followed within a matter of
weeks by a 7+ magnitude quake rocking the west coast of the US. Each
quake, he said, would occur within weeks of each other.
You can look this all up!
On August 16th of this year, a 7.2 magnitude earthquake hit Honshu,
Japan. On September 9th, a 7.7 magnitude earthquake hit Papua, New
Guinea. On September 25th, a 7.5 magnitude earthquake hit northern
Peru. All three earthquakes were barely mentioned in the press because
all of them hit relatively unpopulated regions of the globe. But I
noted each of them because I receive an email anytime an earthquake
over 5.0 hits anywhere in the world. And now Sunday, October 16th will
be weeks since the Peru earthquake.
Besides the devastation and terrible loss of life that such an
earthquake would bring to the west coast, Scallion warns us that the
first three earthquakes are the sign that the fourth is imminent, and
that the fourth earthquake would then become the sign that horrifying
earth changes are about to begin -- changes which will tear the
existing coastlines of the US and world to shreds over the next seven
or eight years!
Quite the prediction, no?
The west coast of the US has no idea what could be coming their way
soon because nobody takes Scallion-types seriously. Hell, I generally
don't either, but I always take note of interesting predictions because
you never know, do you?
--JoeS
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JoeS wrote:
A 7.0 magnitude quake is a major geologic event. But while one 7.0
earthquake could be considered significant, regardless of damages or
casualties, four earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or larger all occuring
within two months of each other would be even more noteworthy --
especially if they were predicted in the order that they occured.
Do I have your attention now?
That's why I would like to go on the record once again to remind
everyone that Gordon-Michael Scallion predicted at least seven or eight
years ago that before California would be devastated by "The Big One",
that three earthquakes of this magnitude would strike--in order--Japan,
the Indian Ocean, and South America, to be followed within a matter of
weeks by a 7+ magnitude quake rocking the west coast of the US. Each
quake, he said, would occur within weeks of each other.
You can look this all up!
On August 16th of this year, a 7.2 magnitude earthquake hit Honshu,
Japan. On September 9th, a 7.7 magnitude earthquake hit Papua, New
Guinea. On September 25th, a 7.5 magnitude earthquake hit northern
Peru. All three earthquakes were barely mentioned in the press because
all of them hit relatively unpopulated regions of the globe. But I
noted each of them because I receive an email anytime an earthquake
over 5.0 hits anywhere in the world. And now Sunday, October 16th will
be weeks since the Peru earthquake.
Besides the devastation and terrible loss of life that such an
earthquake would bring to the west coast, Scallion warns us that the
first three earthquakes are the sign that the fourth is imminent, and
that the fourth earthquake would then become the sign that horrifying
earth changes are about to begin -- changes which will tear the
existing coastlines of the US and world to shreds over the next seven
or eight years!
Quite the prediction, no?
The west coast of the US has no idea what could be coming their way
soon because nobody takes Scallion-types seriously. Hell, I generally
don't either, but I always take note of interesting predictions because
you never know, do you?
--JoeS
Did GMS give either a specific date for this event (or at least a
timeframe) ?!?!?
eg, December 15, 2005 (just a hypothetical)
dON'T FORget that there will also be a series of man-made catastrophes
b4 Wednesday,
December 21, 2005, which will also add to humanity's woes & the global
economy.....
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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October, he now says, in 2005 in or near Palm Springs.
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Iz there a link for that ?!?
Thanking U in advance.....
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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œŸ©ª±Ç¶·( Xa Ta Zac Xa Ta Amac )™ wrote:
JoeS wrote:
A 7.0 magnitude quake is a major geologic event. But while one 7.0
earthquake could be considered significant, regardless of damages or
casualties, four earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or larger all occuring
within two months of each other would be even more noteworthy --
especially if they were predicted in the order that they occured.
Do I have your attention now?
That's why I would like to go on the record once again to remind
everyone that Gordon-Michael Scallion predicted at least seven or eight
years ago that before California would be devastated by "The Big One",
that three earthquakes of this magnitude would strike--in order--Japan,
the Indian Ocean, and South America, to be followed within a matter of
weeks by a 7+ magnitude quake rocking the west coast of the US. Each
quake, he said, would occur within weeks of each other.
You can look this all up!
On August 16th of this year, a 7.2 magnitude earthquake hit Honshu,
Japan. On September 9th, a 7.7 magnitude earthquake hit Papua, New
Guinea. On September 25th, a 7.5 magnitude earthquake hit northern
Peru. All three earthquakes were barely mentioned in the press because
all of them hit relatively unpopulated regions of the globe. But I
noted each of them because I receive an email anytime an earthquake
over 5.0 hits anywhere in the world. And now Sunday, October 16th will
be weeks since the Peru earthquake.
Besides the devastation and terrible loss of life that such an
earthquake would bring to the west coast, Scallion warns us that the
first three earthquakes are the sign that the fourth is imminent, and
that the fourth earthquake would then become the sign that horrifying
earth changes are about to begin -- changes which will tear the
existing coastlines of the US and world to shreds over the next seven
or eight years!
Quite the prediction, no?
The west coast of the US has no idea what could be coming their way
soon because nobody takes Scallion-types seriously. Hell, I generally
don't either, but I always take note of interesting predictions because
you never know, do you?
--JoeS
Did GMS give either a specific date for this event (or at least a
timeframe) ?!?!?
eg, December 15, 2005 (just a hypothetical)
dON'T FORget that there will also be a series of man-made catastrophes
b4 Wednesday,
December 21, 2005, which will also add to humanity's woes & the global
economy.....
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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IIRC, these predictions of his (GMS) were discussed prior to 1999 here,
as the prediction was supposed to occur in 1998, then at the millenium.
(That is my recollection, anyway).
Woods
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15 Oct 2005 11:56:58 PM |
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Just to let you know 'JoeS' - you validity goes "Right Out The Window" when you quote
'Gordon-Michael Scallion'.
Not that Scallion didn't have his 'Day In The Sun', but his predictions eventually became like
'Jean Dixen'. ["Forced Prophecies" for the sake of Celebrity!!!]
Both of them have been 'cut-off' from the realm from which they predicted many years ago (just
because they chose the path of 'self-righteousness') over the path of 'humanity' (and
humility).
Sabato never lived long enough to develop either of these 'Negative Traits'.
:-(]
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15 Oct 2005 11:59:20 PM |
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GMS not unlike so-called "Dr" Turi on this newsgroup.......
More interested in "Profits" than prophets....
They must be jews or something else equally as sinister & evil......
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16 Oct 2005 12:14:00 AM |
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Did Dr.(self proclaimed) Turi ever predict anything 'correctly'? ( not disputing, but just
wondering?)
:-(]
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16 Oct 2005 10:07:51 PM |
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The Other Guy wrote:
Did Dr.(self proclaimed) Turi ever predict anything 'correctly'? ( not disputing, but just
wondering?)
:-(]
No -- he just makes broad generalizations & POSTDICTS on the basis of a
crapload of Moon astrology garbage which he foists on an unsuspecting &
gullible American public......
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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16 Oct 2005 12:35:01 AM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
A 7.0 magnitude quake is a major geologic event. But while one 7.0
earthquake could be considered significant, regardless of damages or
casualties, four earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or larger all occuring
within two months of each other would be even more noteworthy
Not really.
Do I have your attention now?
No, not until you show what Scallion has REALLY been predicting.
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16 Oct 2005 01:00:24 AM |
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'Annoyingly BUD', you seem to be the only person here that [as you house is 'slowly' sliding
down the Laguna Hills slopes] will be sitting in your Living Room - saying "This Isn't
Happening, This Isn't Happening, This Isn't Happening" - to Quote an 'Excellent' line from
that Great X-Files episode from Season Five ("Lord Kimbo").
:-(]
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| User: "Jane" |
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16 Oct 2005 08:04:51 AM |
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"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:4_l4f.8800$S43.1298206@news20.bellglobal.com...
'Annoyingly BUD', you seem to be the only person here that [as you house
is 'slowly' sliding
down the Laguna Hills slopes] will be sitting in your Living Room - saying
"This Isn't
Happening, This Isn't Happening, This Isn't Happening" - to Quote an
'Excellent' line from
that Great X-Files episode from Season Five ("Lord Kimbo").
I don't know about that. Bud has mentioned the swarms of mini-quakes
happening where he lives lately and how they may portend a large quake in
the near future.
In fact, I'm curious Bud...are you still getting those tremors?
Jane
:-(]
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16 Oct 2005 10:57:54 AM |
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Jane wrote:
"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:4_l4f.8800$S43.1298206@news20.bellglobal.com...
'Annoyingly BUD', you seem to be the only person here that [as you house
is 'slowly' sliding
down the Laguna Hills slopes] will be sitting in your Living Room - saying
"This Isn't
Happening, This Isn't Happening, This Isn't Happening" - to Quote an
'Excellent' line from
that Great X-Files episode from Season Five ("Lord Kimbo").
I don't know about that. Bud has mentioned the swarms of mini-quakes
happening where he lives lately and how they may portend a large quake in
the near future.
In fact, I'm curious Bud...are you still getting those tremors?
Jane
The USGS maintains a list of all EQ activit for the latest week at:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
If you click on the "map" link for any given quake, it'll display the
location and relative size & timeframe for the quakes.
Woods
:-(]
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16 Oct 2005 11:19:31 AM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:6Mu4f.59456$K91.46867@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Jane wrote:
"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:4_l4f.8800$S43.1298206@news20.bellglobal.com...
'Annoyingly BUD', you seem to be the only person here that [as you house
is 'slowly' sliding
down the Laguna Hills slopes] will be sitting in your Living Room -
saying "This Isn't
Happening, This Isn't Happening, This Isn't Happening" - to Quote an
'Excellent' line from
that Great X-Files episode from Season Five ("Lord Kimbo").
I don't know about that. Bud has mentioned the swarms of mini-quakes
happening where he lives lately and how they may portend a large quake in
the near future.
In fact, I'm curious Bud...are you still getting those tremors?
Jane
The USGS maintains a list of all EQ activit for the latest week at:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
If you click on the "map" link for any given quake, it'll display the
location and relative size & timeframe for the quakes.
Thanks. I was really curious about what Bud was experiencing, though. Must
be scary feeling clusters of tremors and wondering if the next one will be
"it".
Jane
Woods
:-(]
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16 Oct 2005 12:22:01 PM |
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Jane wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:6Mu4f.59456$K91.46867@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Jane wrote:
"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:4_l4f.8800$S43.1298206@news20.bellglobal.com...
'Annoyingly BUD', you seem to be the only person here that [as you house
is 'slowly' sliding
down the Laguna Hills slopes] will be sitting in your Living Room -
saying "This Isn't
Happening, This Isn't Happening, This Isn't Happening" - to Quote an
'Excellent' line from
that Great X-Files episode from Season Five ("Lord Kimbo").
I don't know about that. Bud has mentioned the swarms of mini-quakes
happening where he lives lately and how they may portend a large quake in
the near future.
In fact, I'm curious Bud...are you still getting those tremors?
Jane
The USGS maintains a list of all EQ activit for the latest week at:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
If you click on the "map" link for any given quake, it'll display the
location and relative size & timeframe for the quakes.
Thanks. I was really curious about what Bud was experiencing, though. Must
be scary feeling clusters of tremors and wondering if the next one will be
"it".
Jane
Earthquakes on the West Coast aren't felt as widely as they are in the
East, due to a different geology (don't know how it's different, just
that it is). It's doubtful if Bud would feel any/most of the small
tremors himself.
Woods
Woods
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16 Oct 2005 03:28:19 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:Z_v4f.59987$K91.22758@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Jane wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:6Mu4f.59456$K91.46867@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Jane wrote:
"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:4_l4f.8800$S43.1298206@news20.bellglobal.com...
'Annoyingly BUD', you seem to be the only person here that [as you
house is 'slowly' sliding
down the Laguna Hills slopes] will be sitting in your Living Room -
saying "This Isn't
Happening, This Isn't Happening, This Isn't Happening" - to Quote an
'Excellent' line from
that Great X-Files episode from Season Five ("Lord Kimbo").
I don't know about that. Bud has mentioned the swarms of mini-quakes
happening where he lives lately and how they may portend a large quake
in the near future.
In fact, I'm curious Bud...are you still getting those tremors?
Jane
The USGS maintains a list of all EQ activit for the latest week at:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
If you click on the "map" link for any given quake, it'll display the
location and relative size & timeframe for the quakes.
Thanks. I was really curious about what Bud was experiencing, though.
Must be scary feeling clusters of tremors and wondering if the next one
will be "it".
Jane
Earthquakes on the West Coast aren't felt as widely as they are in the
East, due to a different geology (don't know how it's different, just that
it is). It's doubtful if Bud would feel any/most of the small tremors
himself.
Wasn't aware of that. We had a tiny one here soem years back and everyone
certainly felt it.
Jane
Woods
Woods
:-(]
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17 Oct 2005 10:44:23 PM |
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Just a "SideBar" comment here for 'Jane' and 'mondo' (and Annoyingly BUD will like this too).
If you can feel the weekly (daily) quakes in Southern California, then this is know as a 'Good
Thing'. "This means that the San Andreas fault (and other faults) are slipping 'regularly'."
Got to love 'Regularity' !!!
It's those years of NO activity that are the MOST concerning for people of the S.C. Region.
:-(]
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16 Oct 2005 12:55:05 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
scribed:
Thanks. I was really curious about what Bud was experiencing, though. Must
be scary feeling clusters of tremors and wondering if the next one will be
"it".
There's a better link for California and Nevada...
http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/latest.htm
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16 Oct 2005 12:53:29 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
scribed:
I don't know about that. Bud has mentioned the swarms of mini-quakes
happening where he lives lately and how they may portend a large quake in
the near future.
In fact, I'm curious Bud...are you still getting those tremors?
No, and that swarm was more than 100 miles east of me,
in the Imperial Valley.
I'm on a granite ridge less than 2 miles from the Pacific Ocean,
and over 300 feet high.
A really large tsunami MIGHT get here, but it's unlikely that
such an event will happen in my lifetime. IF it should be
about too happen, I'd probably know about it well before the
tsunami hit, and I'd have time to evacuate.
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16 Oct 2005 03:27:33 PM |
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"Never Anonymous Bud" <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
scribed:
I don't know about that. Bud has mentioned the swarms of mini-quakes
happening where he lives lately and how they may portend a large quake in
the near future.
In fact, I'm curious Bud...are you still getting those tremors?
No, and that swarm was more than 100 miles east of me,
in the Imperial Valley.
Oh, okay. Guess I misunderstood your posts OR I was relying on (faulty)
memory!
Thanks for replying, anyway!
Jane
I'm on a granite ridge less than 2 miles from the Pacific Ocean,
and over 300 feet high.
A really large tsunami MIGHT get here, but it's unlikely that
such an event will happen in my lifetime. IF it should be
about too happen, I'd probably know about it well before the
tsunami hit, and I'd have time to evacuate.
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16 Oct 2005 02:16:20 AM |
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Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
A 7.0 magnitude quake is a major geologic event. But while one 7.0
earthquake could be considered significant, regardless of damages or
casualties, four earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or larger all occuring
within two months of each other would be even more noteworthy
Not really.
Perhaps you are right, N.A.Bud, as the world has averaged 18
earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or greater every year since 1990. That
comes out to 1.5 earthquakes of that size every month, so that over a
two-month time frame, four earthquakes of 7.0 or greater might not fall
into the "significant" category after all. The USGS has a chart here:
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/eqstats.html
However, my point again is that Scallion has defined a scenario to be
alerted to as an indicator that The Big One in California is about to
hit -- three 7.0+ magnitude earthquakes hitting Japan, the Indian Ocean
region, and South America in that order and within a few weeks of each
other. That has now happened for the first time that I can recall since
Scallion's prediction of eight or more years ago. That's why I am so
concerned -- particularly for my son and his wife in Oregon, if I can
be permitted a selfish indulgence.
Scallion's website can be found here: http://www.matrixinstitute.com/
His timeframe for the massive earth changes is between now and 2012.
The map of the US that he says he envisioned can be found at his
website.
Do I have your attention now?
No, not until you show what Scallion has REALLY been predicting.
Huh. I honestly haven't been paying him any attention (or bread) in all
the years since I first heard of him and his compelling four-quake
prediction. I couldn't really care less if every prediction he's made
in the last eight years has crapped out, exposing him as a fraud and a
quack. His four-quake prediction from the mid-90's was so specific and
so memorable that I filed it away and have kept my eyes open ever
since. So here we are -- three quakes down, one yet to go. It either
happens or it doesn't...
And (nearly) finally, N.A.Bud, if your wife had sat up in bed on August
28th, 2001 and yelled out, "they're cutting down the tower," you might
be a bit more sober about the possibility of prophecy. Before then, I
was as skeptical about metaphysics as Red Riding Hood. But then I met
my wolf on 9-11. By way of explanation, I am a scientist. Rational.
Pragmatic. Logic over emotion and all that. I even do pretty decent on
IQ tests. And yet I read this newsgroup. Imagine that. But then so do
you... Why?
--JoeS
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16 Oct 2005 07:04:13 PM |
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JoeS wrote:
By way of explanation, I am a scientist. Rational.
Pragmatic. Logic over emotion and all that. I even do pretty decent on
IQ tests. And yet I read this newsgroup. Imagine that. But then so do
you... Why?
--JoeS
I read it for the entertainment value alone.
It can be quite amusing at times.
Not like the "old" days, though...
Then again, you weren't asking me.
So, never mind. :-)
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16 Oct 2005 05:24:21 PM |
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On 16 Oct 2005 00:16:20 -0700, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
wrote in part:
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And (nearly) finally, N.A.Bud, if your wife had sat up in bed on August
28th, 2001 and yelled out, "they're cutting down the tower," you might
be a bit more sober about the possibility of prophecy. Before then, I
was as skeptical about metaphysics as Red Riding Hood. But then I met
my wolf on 9-11. By way of explanation, I am a scientist. Rational.
Pragmatic. Logic over emotion and all that. I even do pretty decent on
IQ tests. And yet I read this newsgroup. Imagine that. But then so do
you... Why?
--JoeS
*
Hmmm, one of the reasons why *I* still lurk here is that this
Godforsaken NewsGroup might still, from time to time, offer one
or two articles about Nostradamus' prophecies. Fortunately,
titles and authors have become quite predictable, thereby cutting
very short any likely waste of time lurking about.
*
As to your more general comments above, it prompted me recalling
'the meeting of my own wolf'. It was circa 1969 when I discovered
instances of clairvoyance, i.e., some especially gifted people
having, at one time of their lives, experienced one of three
following circumstances: 1) Having heard or seen events from the
past; 2) seeing events from their present, but happening
elsewhere; and 3) seeing events from their future, events which
materialized shortly thereafter.
*
All of which led me to accept the odd notion that, if some small-
time clairvoyants might have seen either past, present or future,
in the circumstances described above, then logic dictated that
there ought not be any impediment for a super-clairvoyant like
Michel de Nostredame to have had a huge vision about 460 years of
history between 1557 and 2017. Which brings me back on topic. ;-)
*
My discovery also taught me that 'these things' hardly happen in
a laboratory, under controlled circumstances, are generally
unexpected, mostly anecdotal, difficult to believe if one does
not know the person having experienced these exceptional
perceptions, and cannot possibly convince anyone rejecting the
reality of these phenomena to change their mind about them.
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Astrology, more than anything else, has made Nostradamus et al.
more palatable to a rather skeptical mind like mine, and has
opened my eyes to parts of reality which otherwise would have
remained unnoticed.
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On 16 Oct 2005 00:16:20 -0700, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
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And (nearly) finally, N.A.Bud, if your wife had sat up in bed on August
28th, 2001 and yelled out, "they're cutting down the tower," you might
be a bit more sober about the possibility of prophecy. Before then, I
was as skeptical about metaphysics as Red Riding Hood. But then I met
my wolf on 9-11. By way of explanation, I am a scientist. Rational.
Pragmatic. Logic over emotion and all that. I even do pretty decent on
IQ tests. And yet I read this newsgroup. Imagine that. But then so do
you... Why?
--JoeS
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Hmmm, one of the reasons why *I* still lurk here is that this
Godforsaken NewsGroup might still, from time to time, offer one
or two articles about Nostradamus' prophecies. Fortunately,
titles and authors have become quite predictable, thereby cutting
very short any likely waste of time lurking about.
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As to your more general comments above, it prompted me recalling
'the meeting of my own wolf'. It was circa 1969 when I discovered
instances of clairvoyance, i.e., some especially gifted people
having, at one time of their lives, experienced one of three
following circumstances: 1) Having heard or seen events from the
past; 2) seeing events from their present, but happening
elsewhere; and 3) seeing events from their future, events which
materialized shortly thereafter.
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All of which led me to accept the odd notion that, if some small-
time clairvoyants might have seen either past, present or future,
in the circumstances described above, then logic dictated that
there ought not be any impediment for a super-clairvoyant like
Michel de Nostredame to have had a huge vision about 460 years of
history between 1557 and 2017. Which brings me back on topic. ;-)
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My discovery also taught me that 'these things' hardly happen in
a laboratory, under controlled circumstances, are generally
unexpected, mostly anecdotal, difficult to believe if one does
not know the person having experienced these exceptional
perceptions, and cannot possibly convince anyone rejecting the
reality of these phenomena to change their mind about them.
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Astrology, more than anything else, has made Nostradamus et al.
more palatable to a rather skeptical mind like mine, and has
opened my eyes to parts of reality which otherwise would have
remained unnoticed.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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Hi Claude, it's always a joy to hear from you. I was always somewhat
reassured when I read you after wading through some of the other
doomsaying posts to APN of olde and of current (like a few of mine
recently.) Your interpretations of Nostradamus's quatrains and the
anagrammatical methodology you propose that he used are always less
apocalyptic than interpretations by most others. Of course, as I
recall, you say that Nostradamus said that Paris will be having a bit
of an awful moment intended for China in another seven or so years.
I agree with what you said about visions and mystical experiences
("generally unexpected, mostly anecdotal, difficult to believe if one
does not know the person,") and I appreciate you offering your "Wolf at
the Door" moments to us. That would make an interesting thread topic,
come to think of it.
I am no scholar of the mystical so my theories and assertions of recent
tend to be clunky and overwrought (and wholly misunderstood). But I
assure you that the view of the world from inside my skull is far more
fuzzed and obtuse than my ham-handed scribblings let on.
Take care, Claude, and I'm glad to hear that you are still lurking in
the APN ether. Wonder what ever became of Cesar? He also had an
interesting, respectful, and intelligent way about him, despite his
general (and specific) eccentricies.
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On 16 Oct 2005 23:22:25 -0700, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
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Hi Claude, it's always a joy to hear from you. I was always somewhat
reassured when I read you after wading through some of the other
doomsaying posts to APN of olde and of current (like a few of mine
recently.) Your interpretations of Nostradamus's quatrains and the
anagrammatical methodology you propose that he used are always less
apocalyptic than interpretations by most others. Of course, as I
recall, you say that Nostradamus said that Paris will be having a bit
of an awful moment intended for China in another seven or so years.
*
Hmmm, the date for that future event has never varied from the
time of its discovery (1994) to date, i.e., Sunday, August 13,
2017, at 3:53 a.m.
*
For those who might be too impatient to wait for that last major
event in Nostradamus' decyphered texts, Nostradamus has also
documented a similar event (a thermonuclear blast intended for
somewhere else) occurring exactly eight years after the Al-Qaida
attacks upon Madrid, on March 11, 2004. So, on March 11, 2012,
the Aegean Sea (in the Cyclads, near the Peloponnese) shall be
nuked by mistake by a drunken Russian submarine commander
cruising the Black Sea and intending to nuke Riga, capital of
Latvia, but changing at the last minute the direction of his
still-to-be-launched missile and unwittingly killing 100,000
Greeks.
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Unfortunately, for the period 2005 to 2012, there are very few
events discovered in Nostradamus' encyphered texts which carry a
precise date. For instance, an Al-Qaida attack upon five cities
in Southern France, using plutonium powder, does not carry a
specific date (Winter of 2005?); so does the destruction by the
IRA of the Tunnel under the Channel (perhaps sometime in 2007?)
using a thermonuclear device smuggled out of the former Soviet
Union, making it impossible to clean up the radioactive Tunnel.
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As you can see, watching Nostradamus' prophecy about our future
is as exciting as watching the grass grow, as very few events
find themselves in the decyphered texts.
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If you have not yet visited the site below (in English), you
might find interesting (if you do visit it) some of the details
concerning the above.
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Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
However, my point again is that Scallion has defined a scenario to be
alerted to as an indicator that The Big One in California is about to
hit --
But the ONLY basis for his prediction is the fact that he has visions
(I'd call then delusions), and NOTHING scientific.
Do YOU believe California is going to 'fall into the ocean', become a
series of islands, and Denver will be the new west coast of the U.S.??
Because ALL of that is still just PART of what Scallion has been pumping
for over 20 years!
His timeframe for the massive earth changes is between now and 2012.
Yes, and it USED to be by 1990, then it was '95, THEN it was '99,
and yet here we all are. AND it used to be based partly on Cayces
prediction that started with Mt. Etna, NOT in the Indian Ocean.
The map of the US that he says he envisioned can be found at his
website.
Yes, the SAME map Lori Toye showed years before Scallion.
Huh. I honestly haven't been paying him any attention (or bread) in all
the years since I first heard of him and his compelling four-quake
prediction.
WHAT, exactly, do you find compelling about it?
I couldn't really care less if every prediction he's made
in the last eight years has crapped out,
They HAVE!
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Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
However, my point again is that Scallion has defined a scenario to be
alerted to as an indicator that The Big One in California is about to
hit --
But the ONLY basis for his prediction is the fact that he has visions
(I'd call then delusions), and NOTHING scientific.
Of course they are unscientific -- except that they are "testable". I
never said otherwise. Still, I have a mind that has been opened by and
to evidence that is generally considered unscientific.
Do YOU believe California is going to 'fall into the ocean', become a
series of islands, and Denver will be the new west coast of the U.S.??
Of course not. But if The Big One strikes California in the next week
or so, I will have to do a lot more reading of unconventional texts.
Because ALL of that is still just PART of what Scallion has been pumping
for over 20 years!
His timeframe for the massive earth changes is between now and 2012.
Yes, and it USED to be by 1990, then it was '95, THEN it was '99,
and yet here we all are. AND it used to be based partly on Cayces
prediction that started with Mt. Etna, NOT in the Indian Ocean.
Yes, I know about Cayce's predictions and I could see how much of that
Scallion seemed to "borrow". Cayce also seemed to have a problem with
exact date stamping for his predictions.
The map of the US that he says he envisioned can be found at his
website.
Yes, the SAME map Lori Toye showed years before Scallion.
Never heard of her.
Huh. I honestly haven't been paying him any attention (or bread) in all
the years since I first heard of him and his compelling four-quake
prediction.
WHAT, exactly, do you find compelling about it?
It's specific and testable in that it will be proven plainly correct or
incorrect when The Big One does finally hit. The Chinese were once said
to be able to predict earthquakes based on observation of very subtle
natural clues hinting of impending catastrophe. And I've always had a
soft spot for psychics who make very specific predictions and seem
quite sincere about it. It's the disingenuous psychics who predict "A
major movie star will die in late summer" who are clearly quacks and
frauds. The ones who go out on a limb and predict something like
Scallion did -- and a prediction that could have some beneficial effect
on lives should the prediction came to pass -- are more compelling to
me.
I couldn't really care less if every prediction he's made
in the last eight years has crapped out,
They HAVE!
Again, I couldn't care less. In July of 1996, he unequivocally stated
that three earthquakes of 7.0+ magnitude would hit Japan, the Indian
Ocean region, and South America -- in that order and all within weeks
of each previous quake -- as a sign and warning that a huge quake would
soon hit the western US. As of today, it's been three weeks since the
third quake in northern Peru. Let's just watch and learn... either way
it goes. I don't want it to happen, but I have to confess to feeling
some honest anxiety because I admit that I'm giving Scallion the
benefit of the doubt since I've been alert to this four-quake scenario
for quite some time now.
I hope you're right about Scallion, and we can all share a laugh at his
expense some day, I really do.
--JoeS
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17 Oct 2005 12:50:35 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
Of course they are unscientific -- except that they are "testable".
Yes, they are. And he has NEVER been right on a prediction
that was made public BEFORE a predicted event.
It's a damned shame YOU don't realize that.
And Scallion has made THOUSANDS of predictions
besides than the 4-quake scenario.
I never said otherwise. Still, I have a mind that has been opened by and
to evidence that is generally considered unscientific.
No, you're open to EVERY ridiculous theory that comes along,
and you simply ignore the stupidity of most.
Do YOU believe California is going to 'fall into the ocean', become a
series of islands, and Denver will be the new west coast of the U.S.??
Of course not. But if The Big One strikes California in the next week
or so, I will have to do a lot more reading of unconventional texts.
Then WHY are you so fixatd on this ONE event by Scallion,
when a big quake in California is NOT the finale of his predictions??
Yes, I know about Cayce's predictions and I could see how much of that
Scallion seemed to "borrow". Cayce also seemed to have a problem with
exact date stamping for his predictions.
Cayce has a decent record WHEN he was alive.
But few, if any, of the things he predicted
to happen after his death have occurred.
Never heard of her.
Well then, you HAVEN'T done enough research.
It's specific and testable in that it will be proven plainly correct or
incorrect when The Big One does finally hit.
A) It has ALREADY failed, in that it's been changed
when the first 5 versions didn't happen.
B) JUST a big quake in California is NOT the prediction.
The Chinese were once said to be able to predict earthquakes
based on observation of very subtle natural clues hinting
of impending catastrophe.
And yet AFTER a closer investigation, that was proven to be folklore!
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17 Oct 2005 02:20:12 PM |
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Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
Of course they are unscientific -- except that they are "testable".
Yes, they are. And he has NEVER been right on a prediction
that was made public BEFORE a predicted event.
It's a damned shame YOU don't realize that.
And Scallion has made THOUSANDS of predictions
besides than the 4-quake scenario.
I never said otherwise. Still, I have a mind that has been opened by and
to evidence that is generally considered unscientific.
No, you're open to EVERY ridiculous theory that comes along,
and you simply ignore the stupidity of most.
Do YOU believe California is going to 'fall into the ocean', become a
series of islands, and Denver will be the new west coast of the U.S.??
Of course not. But if The Big One strikes California in the next week
or so, I will have to do a lot more reading of unconventional texts.
Then WHY are you so fixatd on this ONE event by Scallion,
when a big quake in California is NOT the finale of his predictions??
Yes, I know about Cayce's predictions and I could see how much of that
Scallion seemed to "borrow". Cayce also seemed to have a problem with
exact date stamping for his predictions.
Cayce has a decent record WHEN he was alive.
But few, if any, of the things he predicted
to happen after his death have occurred.
Never heard of her.
Well then, you HAVEN'T done enough research.
It's specific and testable in that it will be proven plainly correct or
incorrect when The Big One does finally hit.
A) It has ALREADY failed, in that it's been changed
when the first 5 versions didn't happen.
B) JUST a big quake in California is NOT the prediction.
The Chinese were once said to be able to predict earthquakes
based on observation of very subtle natural clues hinting
of impending catastrophe.
And yet AFTER a closer investigation, that was proven to be folklore!
1) It's interesting that you appear to be incapable of writing a
sentence without CAPITALIZING at least one word.
2) It's interesting that you seem to have read so much about and by
Scallion and Cayce and others while retaining a wholly skeptical, if
not cynical, outlook on the subjects of prophecy and psychic
premonition. Why are you even here at APN if not to continually
criticize wobbly-minded weirdos like myself?
3) You keep talking about Scallion's "5 versions" of the four-quake
scenario, but his first mention of it was in July 1996, and except for
his claim each year that the predicted earth changes would begin that
year, the four-quake scenario hasn't really changed. However, at this
website -- http://www.geocities.com/twitlet.geo/GMS_2001_Pred.html --
Scallion makes his predictions for 2001. Something seems to be missing.
Something pretty significant. I read this and I just know that Scallion
is a hack -- at least in 2001!
4) You ask why I am so focussed on the four-quake scenario if it's not
the finale of Scallion's predictions. The answer is that if Scallion is
shown to be prophetic with the very specific four-quake scenario, then
perhaps some part of the greater earth changes foreseen and forecast by
him and by Cayce are not so impossible after all. The four-quake
scenario is a nifty bellweather. Keep your eyes peeled for that, and if
it doesn't happen, then one can forget all the other earth changes
stuff Scallion said.
5) The "subtle natural clues" that were observed by the Chinese were
said to be the behaviors of animals, who could supposedly sense
low-frequency earth movements which might signal an impending
earthquake. Sounds plausible to me, but if you once read something in
some obscure journal that called it folklore (which doesn't necessarily
negate its veracity), then go ahead and diss that too. People believe
what they wanna believe.
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17 Oct 2005 05:20:31 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
1) It's interesting that you appear to be incapable of writing a
sentence without CAPITALIZING at least one word.
I'm trying to emphasize the critical parts,
since you seem to be unable to see them otherwise.
2) It's interesting that you seem to have read so much about and by
Scallion and Cayce and others while retaining a wholly skeptical,
It's because I've read so much, by and about Cayce, Scallion, Dames,
Hoagland, and so many others, that I remain a skeptic.
if not cynical,
I'm not a cynic, I'm a realist!
Why are you even here at APN if not to continually
criticize wobbly-minded weirdos like myself?
EXACTLY! Amazing, you aren't as unaware and stupid as I thought.
3) You keep talking about Scallion's "5 versions" of the four-quake
scenario, but his first mention of it was in July 1996,
No, it wasn't.
The very first hit I got at www.dogpile.com
searching for 'scallion AND earthquakes' was
http://www.nhne.com/specialreports/srscallion95.html
Which is from January, 1995.
And that still isn't the first mention of the scenario by him.
Please, read that and then, with a straight face,
tell me how accurate he is.
And remember, that was simply ONE link,
there are plenty more if you really want to check them out.
Oh, here's another, from 1994...
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/scalpred.html
and this one, which dates his first public prediction to 1989...
http://www.rense.com/ufo6/absurd.htm
I'm trying to be nicer to you than you deserve.
You keep making stupid claims, change your handle regularly,
and refuse to do even basic research on the claims you promote.
Why should I not point out the absurdity of your posts??
4) You ask why I am so focussed on the four-quake scenario if it's not
the finale of Scallion's predictions. The answer is that if Scallion is
shown to be prophetic with the very specific four-quake scenario, then
perhaps some part of the greater earth changes foreseen and forecast by
him and by Cayce are not so impossible after all. The four-quake
scenario is a nifty bellweather. Keep your eyes peeled for that, and if
it doesn't happen, then one can forget all the other earth changes
stuff Scallion said.
And I've told you repeatedly, and now shown you links to several sites
backing up my claims that he has consistently failed to predict one
single thing correctly.
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Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "JoeS" <yrusodown@hotmail.com>
scribed:
1) It's interesting that you appear to be incapable of writing a
sentence without CAPITALIZING at least one word.
I'm trying to emphasize the critical parts,
since you seem to be unable to see them otherwise.
2) It's interesting that you seem to have read so much about and by
Scallion and Cayce and others while retaining a wholly skeptical,
It's because I've read so much, by and about Cayce, Scallion, Dames,
Hoagland, and so many others, that I remain a skeptic.
if not cynical,
I'm not a cynic, I'm a realist!
Why are you even here at APN if not to continually
criticize wobbly-minded weirdos like myself?
EXACTLY! Amazing, you aren't as unaware and stupid as I thought.
3) You keep talking about Scallion's "5 versions" of the four-quake
scenario, but his first mention of it was in July 1996,
No, it wasn't.
The very first hit I got at www.dogpile.com
searching for 'scallion AND earthquakes' was
http://www.nhne.com/specialreports/srscallion95.html
Which is from January, 1995.
And that still isn't the first mention of the scenario by him.
Please, read that and then, with a straight face,
tell me how accurate he is.
And remember, that was simply ONE link,
there are plenty more if you really want to check them out.
Oh, here's another, from 1994...
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/scalpred.html
and this one, which dates his first public prediction to 1989...
http://www.rense.com/ufo6/absurd.htm
I'm trying to be nicer to you than you deserve.
You keep making stupid claims, change your handle regularly,
and refuse to do even basic research on the claims you promote.
Why should I not point out the absurdity of your posts??
4) You ask why I am so focussed on the four-quake scenario if it's not
the finale of Scallion's predictions. The answer is that if Scallion is
shown to be prophetic with the very specific four-quake scenario, then
perhaps some part of the greater earth changes foreseen and forecast by
him and by Cayce are not so impossible after all. The four-quake
scenario is a nifty bellweather. Keep your eyes peeled for that, and if
it doesn't happen, then one can forget all the other earth changes
stuff Scallion said.
And I've told you repeatedly, and now shown you links to several sites
backing up my claims that he has consistently failed to predict one
single thing correctly.
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Hey dipshit (and you started with the insults, I might note),
1) There once was a contributor to APN a couple years back who made it
his trademark to CAPITALIZE words he felt needed to be emphasized. His
name, as I recall, was Michael Cecil. He had a darkly psychotic episode
as a young man. And for some reason this made him quick to insult
others, I guess because he was soooooo smart and had such deeeeeeeep
insights. Any of this ringing a bell? Or did you become the same kind
of ***** entirely on your own?
2) If you dwell at APN only to insult others, then you have bigger
problems than a superiority complex and cynicism mascarading as
realism.
3) None of your links make any reference whatsoever to the so-called
four-earthquake scenario (Japan, Indian Ocean, South America, US west
coast hit in order by 7.0+ magnitude quakes within weeks of each other)
that I have repeatedly described. So my statement that Scallion made
this particular prediction in July 1996 still stands. And you clearly
have reading comprehension issues.
4) I have always used the handle JoeS since the first time I posted to
APN on October 12th, 2001. Never once used another handle. Go ahead and
do a search for "author: JoeS" on Google's APN and see for yourself. In
four years, there are so many posts--I am ashamed to admit--that one
might presume that JoeS don't got no life. But I assure you, my caring
readers, that I do.
5) I've never denied that Scallion is pretty much a hack and a fraud.
Just that his four-quake scenario caught my attention back in 1996. He
didn't set a deadline for the four-quake scenario to occur, like he did
with so many of his hack-o-rama "Prophecies for the Coming Year"
attempts. So I've kept my eyes open out of curiosity. And now, when the
first three "preliminary quakes" occured exactly as forecast, in the
precise order and intensity as predicted, I have stated that it's an
interesting moment in time. Either it happens now on the west coast or
it doesn't. I have nothing riding on this as it's not my prediction.
And as I said in an earlier post, I'd just as soon it not happen
because I have a son living on the west coast plus I'd have to start
reading all those metaphysical books again, as I once did many many
years ago.
Just grow up N.A.Bud and learn to budget your time a little better
instead of wasting it here with people whom you don't respect or learn
from. Leaving APN behind would be the smarter choice for you, since
that appears to be an aspect of your persona that you value highly. To
stay would demonstrate continued hypocrisy.
--JoeS
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