The "Black" Pope: The Most Powerful Man In The World?
For an update on the situation of the "Black Pope" please read the
following Jennifer Reports:
Jennifer Rport for February 15, 2003
Jennifer Report for February 17, 2003
Note: This is a transcript of an interview between Rick Martin and
Eric Jon Phelps. Mr. Phelps is the author of Vatican Assassins:
"Wounded In The House Of My Friends" which can be purchased through
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The Most Powerful Man In The World?
The "Black" Pope
Count Hans Kolvenbach--The Jesuit's General
By
RICK MARTIN
4/15/00
So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the
main players on the "conspiracy" playing field? You've maybe been
hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various
elements of society who control our world from behind the scenes.
You've gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the
Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word "Jew" to disguise their
adopted heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans), or the
role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the
economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the
Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17
wealthiest so-called "elite" families)--the Rothschilds in England and
Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in Canada, and on and on,
comprising the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets
under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master
deceivers" commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel"
cohorts.
While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger
Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing
Link in this entire structure. And I don't mean a little side issue; I
mean a link so central--yet so well hidden from general public view,
and for so long--that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory"
scholars probably have not put together much of the information that
is going to be presented here.
To call the following outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about
as mild an understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made!
This missing link changes the entire slant of the entire playing
field!
After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally
able to speak with Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on
Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no other way to cover Eric's
historic masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries, than to just
ask questions covering huge spans of time and major historical events.
It took us almost four hours to accomplish the task, yet we could
easily have gone on for another forty.
We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the importance
of this work by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In fact, in
order to share this material with at least some of the pertinent
backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly after the
interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which
will help you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently
important and broad-sweeping story. The missing link is surely a
central link.
Let's call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding
New World Order agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely
central, yet well hidden, has been this link! There's a good reason
the secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet remains so intact
from outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to
possess such a collection of information detailing much "censored"
data about our true, otherworldly cultural heritage.
When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can't help but
reflect back on the purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring
moments in high school history class. Meanwhile, the true history of
what has gone on is dynamic and full of calculated intrigue.
In this business, I've heard and read a lot of things. But when I had
to pick my jaw up off the floor during the reading of certain
historical portions in Eric's book--well, let me just say that Truth
certainly is stranger, and far more interesting, than the many
fictions we've been led to believe are historical fact. And yet The
Truth does fit together like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve
such general attention--considering how well controlled and censored
is the publishing business. Thus is the reason for our lengthy
presentation of this most astonishing and critically important
material here in The SPECTRUM.
We are in a time of Truth being revealed from all directions. And
there is probably no more fundamental, mind-rattling, and previous
notions-shattering example of that than what is being presented here.
The interview is directly followed by a number of pertinent excerpts
from Eric's eye-opening book--which will be available July 1.
[Editor's note: It should be noted up-front that the information
presented below is the studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps. We here at
The SPECTRUM find much about his presentation of his historical
research which meshes with and expands upon Truth which has been
presented by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And that
is good; Truth is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh.
However, for the peace of mind of our unique readership--which
typically has cultivated a more aware spiritual perspective than the
general public--we do not want to give the impression that we agree
with (or wish to promote) some collateral aspects of Eric's
presentation having to do with his personal "religious" convictions.
The focus of those convictions follows a much more biblically
conventional (literal) path--in stark contrast to the unconventional,
questioning, wide-angle vision of his historical material.
Generally such opinions are simply allowed to stand on their own--for
you to sort and interpret as you see fit--rather than being
singled-out to be addressed editorially. However, in this case, the
practical side of Eric's stated religious convictions include the
condoning of some degree of violence (or violent protest) and use of
armaments. And such convictions are very much the opposite of our
philosophical position--for many reasons, not the least of which is
the obvious Adversarial bait-and-entrapment which would result from
choosing what we would consider to be low-frequency responses to
schoolroom Earth's current challenges.
Yet, if the perceptive reader penetrates "between the lines"
thoughtfully, there is glimpsed a recurring commendable spiritual
message in Eric's commentary--of "Have the courage to speak The Truth"
and "God helps those who help themselves"--which we certainly DO agree
with wholeheartedly and have long supported enthusiastically.
We are in the time of the Great Awakening on this planet. The Light of
Truth, intensifying with each passing moment, is nudging many to step
forward and share what they know. Will such ones follow that nudge or
continue to hide in fear? The answer to that question is perhaps the
most important aspect of schoolroom Earth's relentless testing at this
critical time.
One last-minute footnote before beginning this interview: The Arts &
Entertainment (A&E) cable television channel just started to air--on
Easter Sunday evening!--a new two-hour documentary called: The Vatican
Revealed. Tape it so you can study it carefully; within the lines of
dialog and some of those people chosen for commentaries are many, many
clues to the true power of the Vatican over world affairs. It would,
of course, be much more revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER
having read and digested the following.]
Martin: Before we begin, let me say a few words. The topic of your
book is so comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of global
control by the Jesuits, dating back to 1540. I would like to begin our
conversation with a very important point of clarification so that our
readers have something to hold onto while reading the historical
narrative we are about to present. Let me also add that your book is
one of the most compelling, dynamic, genuinely educational historical
documents I have ever read. I want to tell you, I am impressed!
You, literally, link every major global conflict and political
assassination to the hands of the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many
other groups you mention, have been the unwitting pawns in this Jesuit
Agenda.
Today, the present. I'm going to start here, and then we're going to
go way back in time and work our way up. But, I want to start HERE
because it will give a foundation for going back in time.
Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called
"Black Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to
race or color] who gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still
Jean-Baptist Janssens?
Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro
Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the
present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.] I
call him Count Hans Kolvenhoof.
Martin: Let's discuss this position of "General" and, in addition, who
is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his
origins? Where does he hail from?
Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is Dutch.
Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?
Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called
the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I
just called, the Jesuit headquarters.
Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?
Phelps: It's not far from the Vatican, right. It's in the same general
area. It's headquarters of the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?
Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.
Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the
ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?
Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they
are sorcerers. They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would
call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.
Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited--because he was a top
Jesuit at the time in the late '60s--he was invited to a "Black Mass"
in Spain where there were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And
he called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you're involved in a "Black
Mass", you're involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their
black capes and so on.
Martin: I'm fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody in the
world knows who this person is. I've never heard the name.
Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and his top
Jesuits--just a second and I'll get the book. The name of the book is
called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography, by Jean Lacoutre, and that is
available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in 1995.
Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On
the last page of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page
343, you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach. He's the Jesuit General, and he
looks like just a very evil individual. There's a Black man, who's a
high Jesuit, he's a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General
staff. One of the General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler's
List. There are six White men, and one Black man. And that's his
General staff.
Martin: What is the process of choosing a successor General?
Phelps: The High Jesuits elect him, and he's elected for life--unless
he becomes a "heretic".
Martin: And the so-called "High Jesuits" represent what group?
Phelps: I would say that they're the "professed", the high 4th Degree.
When a Jesuit is professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he is under
the "Bloody Oath" that I have in my book.
Martin: Do we have permission to reprint that Oath in our paper?
Phelps: Of course, absolutely.
Martin: One of my questions has to do with the Oath and it's
similarity to the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, and I wrote
that question before I got back to the Protocols portion of your book.
Phelps: The Jesuits obviously wrote the Protocols because they have
carried out every protocol in that little handbook. They have carried
everything out. And, Alberto Rivera says--and he was a Jesuit--he was
greatly maligned, not helped at all by the Apostate, Protestants, and
Baptists in this country; he was helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick. Jack
Chick published his story in six volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III,
IV, V, & VI.
Alberto Rivera says that it was Jews aligned with the Pope who
published the Protocols. Well, I tend to feel that it was just the
Jesuits themselves because they, and they alone, were the ones who
were able to bring this to pass.
They're the ones in the government. They're the ones behind
professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight
of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All
your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of
Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and
sports, while they're busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the
things in the Protocols--that they would create "amusements".
Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree
Freemason--Disneyworld, Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey,
with Hersey Park. They create all of these amusements and games and
pastimes to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they're busy
overthrowing the Protestant form of government.
Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this?
Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the
Mafia. But all the high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they
are ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York, which
is Cardinal O'Connor--because the Commission, the Mafia Commission
resides in New York.
Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was
intimate, personal friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe
Kennedy. And that has not changed.
So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia
Dons--the Gambinos, the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they
control Hollywood, not the Jews. It's only Jews who are front-men who
are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for the
Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen
Spector was Spelly's [Cardinal Spellman's] Jew in the assassination
[of President Kennedy], and he would never say a word about it.
Martin: Now, as we go through here, if there's anything that you don't
want me to print, please let me know because, literally, I'm going to
print everything we say in this conversation.
Phelps: That's fine, that's fine with me because it needs to be said.
Martin: Let's get back to Count Hans Kolvenbach. I want to shine the
spotlight on this guy for just a little bit here. Let's talk about
him. What does he do? Who is he? Let's talk about his position as
"General". How do they exercise this control over the Pope? Does the
Pope know he's a pawn?
Phelps: Ok, one question at a time. So, which question do you want me
to deal with?
Martin: Let's just shine the light right on the Count.
Phelps: The Jesuit General, ok.
Martin: Let's start there, and you tell me everything you want to tell
me about that position.
Phelps: The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total
dictator and autocrat of the Order. When he speaks, his provincials
move. The provincials are his major subordinates. There are around 83
provincials right now.
As I understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83
regions. Ok? For each region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are
10 provincials in the United States. There is one for Central America.
There is one for Ireland. They've divided up the world into these
provinces.
So it's old Babylonian provincial government, centered in
Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit General himself; so it's strictly a Roman
form of government where all the states or provinces are subordinate
to this worldwide sovereign.
The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the Order.
He meets with his provincials. When they decide to start a war or an
agitation, he gets the information from the provincial of that
country, how best to go about this, the demeanor of the people, and
then he uses legitimate grievances to foam an agitation--like the 1964
Civil Rights Movement. That was ALL a Jesuit agitation, completely,
because the end result was more consolidation of power in Washington
with the 1964 Civil Rights Act that was written by [the longtime
President of the University of Notre Dame, the Reverend] Theodore
Hesburgh.
The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials. And the
provincials then, of course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are
many Jesuits who are not "professed", so many of the lower Jesuits
have no idea what's going on at the top. They have no concept of the
power of their Order.
It's just like Freemasonry. The lower Freemasons have no idea that the
High Shriner Freemasons are working for the Jesuit General. They think
that they're just doing works and being good people. But the bottom
line is that the high-level Freemasons are subject, also, to the
Jesuit General because the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the Great,
wrote the High Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish Rite
Freemasonry when Fredrick protected them when they were suppressed by
the Pope in 1773.
So, you have the alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most powerful
Freemason they had in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during their
suppression. That is an irrefutable conclusion. And then, when you see
the Napoleonic Wars, the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars
carried out by Freemasonry, everything Napoleon did, and the Jacobins,
whatever they did, completely benefited the Jesuit Order.
It's to this end that Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of Monte
Cristo. The Count is the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ.
The Count of the Mount of Christ. Alexander Dumas was talking about
the Jesuit General getting vengeance when the Jesuits were suppressed,
and many of them were consigned to an island, three hours sailing,
West, off the coast of Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally
regained their power, they punished all of the monarchs of Europe who
had suppressed them, drove them from their thrones, including the
Knights of Malta from Malta, using Napoleon.
And Alexander Dumas, who fought for the Italian patriots in 1848, to
free Rome from the temporal power of the Pope, wrote many books and
one of the books was to expose this, and that was The Count Of Monte
Cristo.
So, when you read that book, bear in mind that it's really a satire on
the Jesuit Order regaining their power in France. The Count of Monte
Cristo has an intelligence apparatus that can't be beat. Well, that's
the Jesuit Order.
But the Count doesn't get what he really ought to have, or his last
wish, and that's the love of woman. He gains back all of his political
power; he gains back everything he lost; but he doesn't have the love
of a woman. And THAT is the Jesuit Order. They have no women. They
have no love of a woman. Because to have a wife, to have a woman,
means you have an allegiance to your wife and family, and you cannot
obey the General. That's why they will NEVER be married, and that's
one of the great KEYS to their success.
They can betray a nation and walk away. They can betray all the Irish
Catholics getting on the Titanic, and walk away. They can betray us in
Vietnam and walk away. They can betray us every time we go to the
hospital and get radiated and cut and drugged, and walk away, because
it's "for the greater glory of God"--Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam: the
greater glory of the god who sits in Rome.
Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits?
Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of
their making, from Solomon's rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That's their
ultimate goal.
Martin: And why is Solomon's Temple rebuilt so important?
Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When Ignatius
Loyola first started the Order, one of the first things he did was, he
wanted to go to Jerusalem and set up the Jesuit headquarters there.
So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed, came back, went to
school, started his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea
to just review a little bit about Ignatius Loyola.
Martin: Yes.
Phelps: Ok, Ignatius Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he was wounded
at a battle between the French and the Spanish, and his leg was
shattered. Well, the French General, because Loyola was very brave in
conflict, ordered his own doctors to attend Loyola. So they set the
leg and sent him back to his home--which, of course, he was royalty to
the Counsel of Loyola in Spain, in the area of the Basques.
Loyola, through his series of desiring to regain his leg--it had
healed improperly, so he made a rack where he would stretch the leg,
with severe, horrible, awful pain--and trying to stretch this leg to
get it back to normal shape, he endured awful, terrible pain. He had
it rebroken, again, a couple of times and it still did not heal
properly, so he had a perpetual limp. He could no longer be the
courtier among women, and as a result, he went into this depression,
and he then had this vision of the saints, etc., etc., and he wrote
his spiritual exercises.
I will stop at the spiritual exercises, just for a minute, but I'll
take up from there. Loyola then wanted to form an army, but when this
happened with his spiritual exercises, those spiritual exercises would
be basic training for all of his Jesuits. That's what they will ALL go
through. That's what every Jesuit goes through today.
One of the maxims of the spiritual exercises is that if my superior
says "black is white and white is black", then that's the way it is.
That is in his spiritual exercises. That is what is quoted in JFK,
when Kevin Costner is telling his people: "Hey, people, we've got to
start thinking like the CIA. Black is white and white is black." That
was a Jesuit giveaway that the Jesuits produced that movie, because
they're quoting Ignatius Loyola in that movie from his spiritual
exercises.
So, Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set
his mind to regain back what the Papacy had lost to the Reformation.
And so, he went to the Pope, and the Pope in 1540 then created the
Jesuit Order. But this man is a soldier, he's a lawyer, and he put
together a legion of soldiers and warriors to get back what Rome had
lost, as well as institute a World Government for the Pope, from
Jerusalem. This was in 1540.
He started the Order in 1536. He was arrested by the Inquisition, and
he was released, and he went to the Pope; he threw himself at the feet
of the Pope. He would be completely at his service. The Pope chartered
him, and that Pope was Pius III. The Pope chartered them, created the
Jesuit Order; now he has Papal protection, and they began their awful
history of deeds of blood. And war after war after war after war,
they're all attributed to the Jesuit Order in some way. Catholic
nobles, with lots of money, donated castles and schools and money to
the Jesuit Order.
Virtually everything they own has been given to them or stolen by
them. Of course, they stole all of the fortunes of the Jews in World
War II. They stole all their gold, all their assets and everything,
whenever they went into a country. What's just been released is
NOTHING compared to what they've taken.
In Edmond Paris's book, printed by Ozark Publications, called The
Vatican Against Europe, it gets into great detail of what they did. It
calls it--the last 30 years of war is all attributable to the Jesuits,
their massacres of the Serbs and Jews, etc. But Edmond Paris did not
understand that the Jesuit General--and this is one of the most
important points I want to make about Von Kolvenbach--the Jesuit
General is in complete control of the international intelligence
community: that's the CIA, the FBI, the KGB, the Israeli Mossad, the
German BND, the British SIS. The Jesuit General is in COMPLETE CONTROL
of the entire intelligence apparatus--FBI, every bureaucratic agency
in this country, all of it; he is in complete control of it.
So, whenever he wants to find something out about an individual, they
put in the Social Security number, and everything from all of the
intelligence apparatus kicks-in and he and his provincials can review
everything about that man. Credit cards, you name it, everything
that's attached to Rome's social security number, which FDR put upon
us in 1933 with the help of Spellman; at the time, I believe he was
Archbishop, or maybe it was Cardinal Hayes--but Rome was behind FDR in
putting him in office.
The couple of things that he did was implement social insecurity, the
income tax, and recognizing Joseph Stalin's bloody Jesuit USSR
government. So, with the giving of us the Social Security number, that
is Rome's number--that's why I refuse to use it--and that's why they
want everybody using it for everything: driver's license, tax return,
credit card, everything you do, that number is you and that number is
Rome's number.
Martin: Let me just back-up here for a minute. What comes to mind is
Louis Freeh, head of the FBI.
Phelps: Roman Catholic, good altar boy. Probably a Knight of Columbus;
I can't prove it. But anybody with that kind of power has got to be a
Knight of Columbus.
And the Knights of Columbus implement Jesuit politics. And Louis Freeh
was the one behind the Waco atrocity and the Oklahoma City bombing
atrocity. And his top sniper was a Japanese Roman Catholic named Lon
Horiuchi.
So, it's Roman Catholics in control, Knights in control of the FBI,
who carried out all of this killing. And those two men, Louis Freeh
and Lon Horiuchi are personally accountable to Cardinal O'Connor of
New York. And Cardinal O'Connor of New York is the most powerful
Cardinal in the country. He is the military vicar. And that's why Bush
kissed his fanny for going to Bob Jones, because Cardinal O'Connor is
the King of the American Empire. And he rules his Empire from that
Palace, St. Patrick's Cathedral, "the little Vatican".
Martin: And is he in contact, do you think, with Kolvenbach?
Phelps: Of course. O'Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but the Jesuits
are like the SS of the Catholic Church. They maintain order.
And the ones closest to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of
Fordham University. Now, one of them--the head of Fordham University,
I believe he is an Irishman, is also a member of the CFR [Council on
Foreign Relations]. And I have that right here in the Annual Report of
the CFR of 1993. Those Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance and rule
over the Cardinal in New York. And, of course, the powerful Jesuits of
Fordham include Avery Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of the
writers of the book on the Second Vatican Council.
Martin: Let's back-up now, let's go back. What's the Council of Trent?
Phelps: The Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the
Protestant Reformation. Remember--the Protestant Reformation brought
us all of the political liberty that we know of today. There's no such
thing as national sovereignty without the Reformation. There's no such
thing as private rights without the Reformation. There's no such thing
as the Law of Nations, as we know of it today, of Montesquieu and the
others, without the Reformation.
So, when the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by
grace through faith alone, and that there was no need for the
priesthood to go to Heaven--that all we need is salvation in Christ,
and Romans 1:17: the righteous shall live by faith. When the
Reformation came, it completely stripped Rome of its spiritual power.
The priests were no longer wanted because the people were getting the
word of God in a Bible, specifically in Holland, England, and Germany.
And so, with these great revivals breaking forth and the Reformation
happening, nations were breaking away from the power of the Pope. The
Holy Roman Empire was breaking up. Charles V, the Emperor, resigned
and became a monk and a gardener. So, the Lord was moving mightily in
breaking the power of the Holy Roman Empire, started by Charlemagne
and the Pope.
Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of
money. The nations were not paying "Peter's pence" anymore, which
today we call "foreign aid" in this country. And so the Pope was very
upset about his.
What's he going to do? These nations are breaking away from us;
they're not under our temporal or spiritual power; and it's very
important to remember that the Pope claims two powers--spiritual and
temporal--and with the breaking of his spiritual power, he then lost
his temporal power. In other words, he no longer had the ability to
rule the people through the king of the country, because the king was
breaking away, like Henry VIII.
So, Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the Church
of England; he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening
in England, in Germany, in Holland, and other places.
As a result of this, the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his
demonisms, his "spiritual exercises" and--because Loyola had been a
member of the Spanish Alumbrados, which is what we call the Illuminati
today, and he used the Jesuit Order to attempt to regain back what had
been taken by the Reformation--what the Lord had done through Luther,
Calvin, and Knox. And, by the way, Luther, Calvin, and Knox--none of
those men died violent deaths. They all lived to older age and died
peacefully, amidst the power of the Jesuit machinations.
The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions
accurse and condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns
anybody who does not believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the
host [holy communion bread], and that his literal blood is in the
wine. That's called transubstantiation. Anybody who does not believe
that is an accursed anathema. Anybody who believes that their
salvation is outside the Catholic Church is accursed anathema. Anybody
who believes in justification by grace through faith--anathema,
accursed. Anybody who believes that the Pope is not the vicar of
Christ--accursed, anathema. You see, all of these doctrines were being
put forth as a result of reading the Bible, which produced the
Reformation, and so the Jesuits accursed everything that the Reformers
were preaching. This is all in Law called the Council of Trent.
In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session, the
Jesuits condemn freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom
of conscience. So, no man has the right to choose his own religion; no
man has the right to publish what he feels is the truth; and no man
has the right to freedom of conscience.
Those rights were secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in the
First Amendment. The man who wrote the First Amendment was James
Madison, who was a Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by that
Baptist/Calvinist in Virginia, Doc. John Leland: "If you don't secure
all those rights, Virginia will not ratify the Constitution." Virginia
was a Baptist/Calvinist state.
So, we have a warfare between the Council of Trent and the doctrines
of the Reformation, particularly as outlined by John Calvin in his
Institutes Of The Christian Religion. Calvin [1536] wrote the
Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished it when he was 27,
and he dedicated it to the King of France. And because the Jesuits so
hated him, he was driven from France and he resided in Geneva to the
day of his death, when he became Governor of Geneva. It's Calvin and
his Institutes Of The Christian Religion vs. Loyola and his Council of
Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two major documents.
Martin: Council of Trent was what year?
Phelps: From 1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a little town in
Italy. So, it was a Council that took place in the town of Trent,
Italy.
The Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith that was finished in
1648, after the 30 Years War, is another extension of Calvin's
Institutes, and is what the Church of Scotland and the Covenanters
went by when they resisted the powers of Rome and England. That
document is a major document, and it's not the new Westminster
Confession, it's the old one of 1648, where they called the Pope the
man of sin, that Roman Anti-Christ, and they also denounced
anti-Christian tyranny.
And that it is their duty, to use what they call "the sword of the
spirit", which is the Word of God, which we read in Ephesians, Chapter
6, and "the sword of just defense"--the gun, the sword.
So, us Calvinists believe that there is a time for peace and a time
for war, and we do not refuse to go to the battlefield when it's
necessary. It was the Calvinists who gave us our political liberty in
England with Cromwell. He was a Calvinist and an independent Baptist.
It was Calvinists in Holland who gave the Dutch their political
liberty, with William of Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice,
and then later, in our great country, when it was Washington, the
Freemason who did not go into that Masonic Lodge that last 30 years of
his life--in his own words--who was a Baptist and a Calvinist. He was
baptized in the First Baptist Church of New York by one of his
captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by Calvinists.
That's why they didn't surrender at Valley Forge; that's why, when
they were naked, when they went through the snow, barefoot, they
endured that because they were Bible-believing Calvinists and they
refused to submit to the tyranny of King George, who was controlled by
the Jesuits.
And that is the soul of our country. If we lose that soul, we've lost
everything. And those very same Baptists, in the Second Amendment,
secured their right to bear arms, because they secured the right, the
"sword of just defense". And the "sword of the spirit" is contained in
the First Amendment, the right to have the Bible never taken from
them. The two swords of Calvinism are secured in the First and Second
Amendments. Without those first two Amendments, all the others are
nothing.
Martin: Well, I got to my question #2. So, let's go to #3 of the
seventy. (laughter)
How does Shriner Freemason President Harry Truman's signing into law
of the Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit Agenda?
Phelps: First of all, Harry Truman, who the Japanese called "Dirty
Harry"--when they heard the movie Dirty Harry came out, they thought
it was a movie about Harry Truman, according to my Japanese pastor
friend, Daniel Fuji, who has passed away.
Harry Truman was put in office by the Jesuits, the Pensergast
Democratic machine in Missouri. Harry Truman takes over after FDR's
murder, because he was murdered in the home of Bernard Baruch. When he
did that, he then finished up the war with the hoax called the
dropping of the nuclear bombs, to purposely create this greater hoax
called the Cold War, that would enable the Vatican to knock over
country after country after country, and replace the leaders with
dictators, subordinate to the Pope. That was the purpose of the Cold
War.
And so, when Harry Truman in 1950 signed into law the Emergency War
Powers Act, the Cold War was in full force. They were building bomb
shelters, etc. So the nation was in kind of a frenzy.
When he signed this into law, it put the whole country under military
or martial law, and that's when the flags in every courtroom, state
and federal, began to be changed. And every state flag and every U.S.
flag is now trimmed in gold fringe. And whenever you see a flag
trimmed in gold fringe, that means that it is the flag of the
Commander-in-Chief. Now, if it's the state flag, it means that's the
flag of the governor, as Commander-in-Chief. And if it's the federal
flag, or the national flag, more correctly, it's the flag of the
Commander-in-Chief in Washington.
So, all your courts are nothing more than courts of military rule.
They all proceed with summary procedures. The jury has no power of
jury nullification. And they are simply enforcing the laws of the
Empire, which I call 14th Amendment America, which is a
military-style, King of England-style country. The courts are nothing
more than courts of the king's bench, as you can see in Blackstone's
Commentaries.
And the banks, as you walk into every bank, they all have a flag
trimmed in gold fringe. The bank is what England would call, in
Blackstone's day, the king's bank. So, we have the king's bank, and we
have the king's bench. And it's run according to military rule,
according to Berkheimer's great work Military Rule And Martial Law,
published in 1914.
When Harry Truman did this, there was a consummation of a great plan
to put us under the Emergency War Powers Act and, actually, a war
rule. "Daylight savings time" is what was called "war time". This
country only went to daylight savings time during World War II, and
they called it, at that time, war time. So, nothing's changed. We've
never gone back to not turning back our clocks. We're still on war
time. The income tax is a war tax. It was called a victory tax in
1942.
So, people are paying a war tax, they're under war time, they're under
an emergency war powers act, and the courts are war courts.
Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy, which
could take this entire interview, you say that the assassination was
ordered by the Jesuit General, executed by Pope Paul VI, and carried
out by the "American Pope", Francis Cardinal Spellman--who, in turn,
used the Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of Columbus,
and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from
Rome. Would you explain why you believe your particular theory on the
assassination to be an accurate representation of the facts?
Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are properly
outlined [in his book], and proven through two centuries of showing
how it's all been put together. Now, as to why, I will be conservative
and stick with Fletcher Prouty's reasons, that he outlined in his JFK
and also his other book called The Secret Team.
The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the
Vietnam War, and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two
questions: Did Rome want the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the
CIA? The answer is yes on both counts.
We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly's
War"--Cardinal Spellman's war. He went over to the warfront many times
and he called the American soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man
who was the Commander of the American forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR
member, possibly a Knight of Columbus, I don't know, but he was
General William Westmoreland.
So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman's agent to make sure that war
was prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was
Cardinal Spellman's boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson
was a 33rd-degree Freemason. He was also part of the assassination,
with J. Edgar Hoover, another 33rd-degree Freemason.
And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman's death at St. Patrick's
Cathedral, and the picture can be seen in Cooney's work The American
Pope. So, Johnson was completely at the beck and call of Cardinal
Spellman through Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-in-control of the FBI.
According to Curt Gentry, in his Hoover: The Man And The Secrets,
DeLoach had a phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and Johnson
could call him anytime. DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to
Spellman.
Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the
Jesuits of Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War?
The people of Vietnam, the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would
not convert to Catholicism. They didn't need Rome.
There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had
been decided that about a million or so Buddhists would have to be
"purged". They would later continue this purge of Cambodia, with Pol
Pot, and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging of Laos,
Cambodia, and Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they purged
the Buddhists of China with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was
completely controlled by the Jesuits. So, they wanted the Vietnam War.
The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The
Vatican controls all of the drug trade--all of the heroin, all of the
opium, all of the cocaine, everything going around in Columbia.
Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with
the Pope. Hitler had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat. Franco
had a concordat. They want to set up a concordat here, which was the
reason for Reagan formally recognizing the sovereign state of Vatican
City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was Ronald Reagan.
So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that
drugs running out of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat
with Rome, is not controlled by Rome? If Rome didn't want the drug
trade out of Columbia, they'd end the concordat. The whole drug trade
is run by high Mafia families out of the country of Columbia, subject
to the Jesuit General.
And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago,
out of China. They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie
Shogun is but a slight scratching of the surface of the Jesuit "black
ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls and gold and
opals and everything they could pull out of the East, including opium.
The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive
drug-trade that would inundate every American city with drugs, being
brought in by the CIA with their Air America, and then distributed by
the Trafficante family throughout the United States--Santos
Trafficante out of Miami.
So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade.
We have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the assassination of
Kennedy.
The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist
Janssens] wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he was going to
end the Vietnam War.
The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because
the CIA had betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not
giving the cover to the Cuban patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman
Catholic, Jesuit-trained, grease-ball *****--he was a *****, his
father was a Nazi--Fidel Castro.
Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which
sacrificed all the patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so
Castro had no real opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the
CIA and the KGB at the top, working together with Angleton controlling
it, in the Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that
revolution, and then betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of
the Soviet army and KGB, which infuriated certain top CIA officials.
It's the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the
men who truly want to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy
stopped the air cover of the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended that
resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power. And, of course,
it was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So now
Kennedy looks bad. He's got egg all over his face. What does he want
to do? He signs a Memorandum, according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes
all of the power away from the CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs
of Staff.
The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the
CIA was "Wild" Bill Donovan, an Irish Roman Catholic, who are the most
fanatical, and his brother was a Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the
CIA was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the first head, to
solidify the Catholic or the Vatican control of it.
I'm not against the Catholic people; I'm against Rome's hierarchy. The
American Catholic people know NOTHING of what's going on. And if they
did, there would be a march on St. Patrick's tomorrow morning. So, as
I'm against the hierarchy, I'm showing that Kennedy was against the
Vietnam War, and he was going to do away with the CIA.
Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers
into the CIA because the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in
Europe. When the Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed
with the SS and purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That's why
Stalin deliberately killed 40,000 of his best officers. That's why he
kicked out his best generals, purged them, because he wanted to make
sure that the Red Army would lose with the advance of the German army,
because following that would come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews
that Stalin so hated. And by the way, justice is often poetic because
Stalin's daughter married a Jew.
Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm--and the
intelligence arm--of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were
throughout. Casey was a Knight of Malta. Angleton was a Knight of
Malta. The Knights were through and through. Angleton manned the
"Vatican desk", and that is a desk within the CIA that has a direct
link to the Vatican.
So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That was the
end of him.
Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the
Vietnam War, and also because he attacked the Jesuits' Federal Reserve
Bank by printing United States Notes, they got rid of him. They killed
our only Roman Catholic president.
And it's another piece of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic--not
Protestants, like Harry Truman, FDR, and others--it's a Roman Catholic
who truly sought to resist the temporal power of the Pope in this
country. And in many ways, even though Kennedy was, in fact, a
socialist and communist, at least he resisted the temporal power of
the Pope. And for that we should be thankful and remember his name.
But what have they done to his name? They've slammed it. They drag it
into the dirt. Every time you see it on TV, they parade before you his
womanizing, which I don't deny, but my goodness, can't we give him
some credit where credit is due? That's why they got rid of John F.
Kennedy.
And then, of course, as soon as he's assassinated, John McCone, the
head of the CIA, the following day goes to the White House and they
reverse Kennedy's Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and make a
full-scale, carte blache war.
The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA
war. And there they tried all of their new technology, their
anti-gravity machines, their men who they're trying to make like the
"million-dollar man". They tried out all their new technology in
Vietnam. It was a great experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this.
He knew it, and he knew that the American people had no idea what was
going down, and he still tried to resist it, against his father's
warnings. Because his father was the most powerful Knight of Malta in
the Empire.
Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior?
Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John F.
Kennedy, Jr. wanted to find his father's real killers, and he had the
power to publish the conclusion. So, they took him out right away.
They would not allow that to happen.
Martin: Why haven't you been taken out?
Phelps: Because I am immortal--until the Lord is done with me. I am a
Calvinist and a Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And
as long as we are operating in His Will, they cannot touch us,
regardless of their power.
Martin: Which is why we're having this conversation.
Phelps: Which is why we're having the conversation. Don't think for
one moment they're not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue
is here. We're talking about a providential, sovereign God who wishes
to move, using second causes, men, just as the Devil does.
The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it's one group of men
vs. another group of men, and one path leads to evil, and the true,
almighty God leads to goodness.
The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe
God anymore. Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It's just a
handful of us who say: "Well, we're going to do His Will; we're going
to trust Him in His Power."
And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace
of Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We're going to tell
the truth!
Martin: Let's see here. I can throw away a lot of these questions. So
much of it seems, in a way, irrelevant to our current times because
there's so much going on now. But, good grief! I was just stunned to
read in your book of all the historical things that have happened as a
result of these evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman
Catholics who, I'm sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy,
Jeremiah Crowley, Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them?
Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left the
priesthood and told the truth about what was really happening. And all
four of them, except one, I think Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their
life. Chiniquy was the great exposer of the Jesuit assassination of
President Lincoln, when he wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The
Church Of Rome in 1886. He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the
Jesuits, and that it was covered-up by our government at the time.
Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here and,
seeing the corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so
corrupt, he left it and exposed it. And, of course, he later came to
Christ and became a Bible-believer, which they would call a
Protestant. Protestants today don't believe the Bible. Protestantism
of today is an empty shell, it's nothing. But, back then, in 1912,
they believed the Bible.
Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he exposed,
that helped me with this, was that he warned that the Jesuits, with
their Knights of Columbus--which, he says, the Knights of Columbus,
named after Columbus, who he tells us was a Spanish Jew and a pirate
and a deflowerer of young girls--that Columbus was no Christian.
He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose
of the Knights of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and
part of those politics was to restore the temporal power of the Pope
because, you remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870 and they wanted
to get it back. And they got it back with Mussolini in 1929.
Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and
Teddy Roosevelt were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of
New York. And he said they're going to use our military to restore the
Pope's temporal power around the world.
And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign policy. And
the Council of Trent is the American foreign policy of today. That's
what's going on in Serbia and Bosnia. It's the Council of Trent--the
Jesuits using the American Air Force to bomb those orthodox people to
smithereens. But, that was Crowley's great contribution.
Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The People's
Padre; he wrote Crime And Immorality In The Catholic Church, showing
that Catholic nations are more lawless and more criminal than
Protestant nations, and he proved it with statistics from the jails.
Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The Assassination Of
Abraham Lincoln, where he, again, shows that Lincoln was assassinated
by the Jesuits. So, Emmett McLaughlin came out of the Catholic Church.
To my knowledge, he never was born again. He never was saved, but he
did tell the truth. He married a nun, and lived a virtuous and
honorable life after he left.
The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by
the Vatican because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the
late '60s, about 1969, exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical
movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that Rome controlled
Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our government--Ronald
Reagan.
Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating
that this country will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera
converted to Christ, wonderfully, and he started a ministry called The
Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles.
They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up
between his teeth, trying to give him an infection in the brain. When
he passed out, about a year or so later, they couldn't figure it out.
Everybody was praying for him. And this was discovered when he went to
another dentist. He had it removed.
He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to
kill the man, and finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a
hospital, about three years ago. But these four wonderful, great,
Catholic priests did their best to expose the power of Rome and its
attempts to destroy our sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing nation.
And so, to them, I dedicate it.
Martin: What compelled you to write this book? What started it for
you?
Phelps: I was always taught to be a patriot, a patriot first and
foremost--America first, and everybody else second. Later, when I came
to know the Lord, at 17, I realized the Bible taught the same
thing--that the Lord had instituted nations. The Lord never instituted
world governments; that's always the result of the Devil's working.
So, being a patriot and a nationalist--believing in national
sovereignty--I was saved at 17, went into the Air Force, was
garrisoned in a nuclear weapons area for three years in Germany, came
back and started to go to Bible college.
When I went to Bible college, the issue of the King James came up, as
far as it being an archaic version. And that's what I used and I had
never given it a thought. Well, some were using NIV, some NASB, and I
thought: "Well, maybe it's just a modern version of what I have here."
And I thought: "Well, if they want to use that, that's fine, but I'll
use the King James."
I found that the underlying Greek text for the King James, the Textus
Receptus, was the Greek text of the Reformation. It represents 95% of
the existing manuscripts that we have today. The Greek text that
underlies all these other versions--there's a Westcott and Hort Greek
text, which I then discovered was really a conspiracy to adulterate
the Textus Receptus in England, led by Brooke Foss Westcott and
Anthony Hort, who were Maryolitors, Mary-worshippers.
Later, I found out that they had invited Cardinal Newman to sit in on
the revision committee. Well, Cardinal Newman was a traitor to the
Anglican Church, with his Track 90, which blew-off the Anglican
Church. He then left England and he was then a Cardinal by Pius IX.
So, here we have Cardinal Newman, and E. B. Pusey, had been invited to
sit on this revision committee, the end result being a Greek text that
had been produced that was pro-Jerome's Latin Vulgate. Jerome's Latin
Vulgate is the basis for the Jesuit's Reheims-Douay text, that was put
out in 1582, that was attempting to rival William Tyndale's English
text, which later became the King James Version of 1611.
So now I see this awful Jesuit hand in my Bible college, attempting to
deprive me of the Word of God, the authorized version of 1611, in it's
present edition of 1769. Now I thought "Well, here the Jesuits are,
what else have they done?" And the next thing I was led to was the
Lincoln assassination. And I can remember reading Burke McCarty's The
Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, and
weeping in the back room, when I was in college.
Martin: For me, one of the most compelling portions of your book was
the series of revelations about Lincoln. I was stunned by that.
Phelps: That's what they did. Remember, Lincoln was not going to go
along with the 14th Amendment. He wanted those Southern states to
re-enter the Union on the same footing that they had left, which would
have left us with a federal Republic as Washington had established it.
This the Jesuits would not allow. It would be converted into an
Empire. The states would be subordinate provinces to Washington. And
the 14th Amendment would accomplish this with the reversion of
citizenship. And Lincoln was re-elected, and he was ready to end this,
and that's why they killed him. Kennedy was ready to implement his
things; they would not let him be re-elected.
Martin: This is a total aside. Have you ever come across The Jefferson
Bible?
Phelps: The Jefferson Bible--and maybe you know this--is Matthew,
Mark, and Luke. And Thomas Jefferson, being the Deist, being the pagan
that he was, cut out all the supernatural from those three gospels.
Jefferson was a Deist; he was involved with the French Freemasons who
were involved in the French Revolution, and he was not here at the
writing of our Protestant Constitution. So, the Lord put him out of
the picture. Jefferson was just used to help with the
Revolution--because the Lord does use the unGodly for good things. But
Jefferson copied much of the Declaration Of Independence from the
Mechlenburg Declaration, written by Calvinistic Presbyterians of North
Carolina, when they seceded, when that county of Mechlenburg seceded
from the Colonies.
Martin: Never heard of it.
Phelps: Yes, you'll find it in Presbyterian writings. You can find it
from D. James Kennedy; he has a thing on it. And Jefferson copied, at
the end: "...and to this end we devote our lives, our fortunes, and
our sacred honor."
That was copied directly from the Mechlenburg Declaration. Jefferson
was a plagiarist; he was a high Freemason; and he was out of here at
the time of the writing of our Constitution. And the reason why the
people of Virginia did elect him to office was because he was a
State's Rights man. He wanted limited powers in Washington, and that
was a good thing. And when Jefferson was elected, he undid everything
the king-president John Adams did, with his Alien & Sedition Laws,
because John Adams wanted to be a king, and Jefferson undid it, and
Jefferson got two terms for that.
Martin: I'm looking at some things that are a little further back now.
The Secreta Monita. What's the significance of that?
Phelps: The Secret Instructions [excerpts at the end of this
interview] are the handbooks that are given to the professed Jesuits,
those under extreme oath. [The oath is presented in full at the end of
this interview.] And it tells them how to conduct their plans,
subjugating peoples and nations to the Jesuit General, and thus, to
the temporal power of the Pope. It tells how they are to deceive. It
shows how they are to swindle rich widows out of their fortunes, like
they did with Astor's second wife who survived the Titanic
catastrophe. It shows their general approach on how to do things.
This particular book cannot be known, and if it's ever published, they
will deny it's existence. But when you see the works that the Jesuits
have done, it's in complete agreement with the Secreta Monita.
There is a very interesting section in Edwin R. Sherwin's book The
Engineer Core Of Hell, written in 1886 I believe--another suppressed
work. It's usually in the archives of all the older libraries back
here. And he shows how this Secreta Monita was discovered in South
America by a Mason, and the Mason managed to escape to a lodge after
being shot. He turned the Secreta Monita over to the lodge, and then
these certain Freemasons saw the Secreta Monita. There are certain
low-level Freemasons who believe that the Jesuit Order is their enemy,
so that's why it was taken to the lodge and then published. But the
high-level Masons, of course, work with them. The Secreta Monita was
discovered once that way. It was published in Holland. Then, in 1857,
reprinted by England.
Martin: Pascal's Provincial Letters had a devastating impact on
exposing the Jesuits. Why?
Phelps: Blaise Pascal was a Huguenot, a French Calvinist. So here we
have another fearless man. He doesn't fear death; he's going to tell
the truth. So Blaise Pascal wrote a series of letters that were
written to and from provincials, and he wrote them in a satirical
manner, that of course excited that wonderful French mind. The French,
of course, came to the conclusion that this was absolutely the truth,
and then they moved to suppress the Jesuits again. But his Provincial
Letters are considered a classic. Blaise Pascal also wrote some other
great works, too.
Martin: Pope Ganganelli-Clement XIV abolished the Order entirely in
1773, and was murdered as a result.
Phelps: Correct; he was poisoned.
Martin: The Order was similarly abolished 39 times from different
kingdoms throughout Europe. It doesn't take a genius to figure out
that something was terribly wrong with this group!
Phelps: Right. Are all those people bigots? Are all those people
brainwashed bigots and fanatical Protestants who abolished the Jesuit
Order?
You find the greatest resistance to the Jesuits in Catholic countries,
by Catholic monarchs. And that's why the Roman Catholic monarchs and
nobility of today don't dare resist them. The Kennedys won't touch
them. The monarchs of Europe won't touch them. The Hapsburgs won't
touch them, because the Jesuits have vindicated their power in the
French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars--well, then they went to
suppress the Jesuits again in Europe and they were, for the most part,
kicked-out of Europe in the 1800s. All the nations of Europe banned
them. Germany banned them in 1872. And so, World War I and II, the
second Thirty Years War, was pay-back for this. And ever since then,
nobody touches them.
Pope Ganganelli abolished the Jesuits with a Papal Bull; the Jesuits
call it a "brief". It is not a brief; it is in the Library of the
Bulls, and it is called Dominic Ac Redemptor Nostor. That is the name
of a bull. And when he abolished them, he abolished them forever--that
they were not to talk about their abolition, that they were not to
teach. He confiscated all of their wealth and land and property. For
the most part, the Dominicans took it over, which is why the
Dominicans had their penis cut off during the French Revolution.
That's what the Jacobins did to them. It was payback by the Jesuits:
"You don't dare take our property from us, boy. And you don't dare
take Inquisition from us." Jacobins killed nearly every Dominican in
France.
Martin: Why was the assassination of William of Orange so significant?
Phelps: Williams of Orange was the father of religious liberty.
William of Orange is the man who gave the Jews the freedom to come to
Amsterdam. And the Jews called Amsterdam, "the new Jerusalem". William
of Orange was a Catholic to begin with. Remember when he was in the
forest, hunting with the king of France, and the king of France lay
bare to him their plans to destroy all the Protestants in Holland,
William kept silent. And that's why he was called "William the
taciturn" or "William the silent".
So, he harbored all of this in his heart, and he went back to Holland
determined that he would deliver the Calvinists and the Protestants
from this annihilation. William went to Germany with his German wife,
and he, according to Motley in his The Dutch Republic, raised an army
of Germans and they did not succeed in liberating Holland. And so, it
was the Dutch themselves who joined William of Orange in an attempt to
liberate the country, which they ultimately did as the "wild beggars
of the sea".
So, William was a great inspiration. He delivered flight from the
seige of the fanatical Roman Catholic Spanish, lead by the Jesuits,
when the Lord providentially delivered and sent a strong wind over the
dikes, and flooded the whole area, and flooded the Spanish soldiers.
And then, after that happened, He sent another strong West wind and
blew the water back over the dikes. This is a historical fact! Why
don't we hear this in history? For the same reason we don't hear when
Louis XIV brought his army across the river into Holland to kill all
those Dutch, in 1672, right around there, that the river, right where
the army was crossing, thawed out, and the whole French army went to
the bottom of the river, as a result of the prayers of those
Protestants of Holland. We're not taught that either!
The assassination of William of Orange was probably the second most
significant act of Jesuit dominance, next to the murder of Coligny at
St. Bartholomew's Massacre. Because it was first St. Bartholomew's
massacre, and then the murder of William of Orange. And, of course,
William of Orange was shot by a Jesuit-controlled assassin, Balthazar
Girard, in his own house. And the last words of William, of course,
were: "God be merciful to these poor people."
Martin: What is the Royal Institute of International Affairs?
Phelps: The Royal Institute of International Affairs is the same as
the American Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The Royal Institute
runs England and the British Empire, what was once the extension of
the British, just as the CFR runs our country. They're sister
organizations.
Martin: Where are they based?
Phelps: They're based in London.
Martin: And who is their head; do you know?
Phelps: I don't know right now. The John Birch Society wrote a lot
about that, and they did expose the CFR and the Royal Institute of
International Affairs. Allan Stang has written a lot about that.
Martin: What was the "Gunpowder Plot" of 1605?
Phelps: The Gunpowder Plot of 1605 was the Jesuits attempt to destroy
what William Howitt--and Howitt was the great writer who wrote A
Popular History Of Priestcraft, 1835--he said it was a Jesuit attempt
to destroy our Great King Solomon, King James I, along with the entire
Protestant Parliament. Because remember, Elizabeth I had expelled the
Jesuits from her empire, and if they were ever caught they were to be
drawn and quartered.
After she died, the conspiracy went on there that went on with William
Cecil. They named Mary Queen of Scott's son as the King of England,
rather than Elizabeth's son, because Elizabeth had a son who was the
Earl of South Hampton, Wriothesley, and that was the son of Edward
Devere, who we know as William Shakespeare.
There was no William Shakespeare. The man was Edward Devere. He ran
the Globe Theater. He was the Lord Great Chamberlain to Queen
Elizabeth, and he secretly had a son who was the Third Earl of South
Hampton. He was the rightful heir to the thrown, not King James VI of
Scotland.
You can find all this documented in two great works: the first is
called Shakespeare Identified and the author is Looney. The explosion
of that book is called This Star Of England, written by Carlton and
Dorothy Ogborn, in 1952, and it's a 1200-page work, and in it they
explain all the plays of Shakespeare, and that they are, in the words
of Hamlet: "A brief abstract and chronicle of the times." Nothing but
history.
And then there's another book, Wasn't Shakespeare Someone Else?,
written by Tweeny, and in that book he evaluates the 150 sonnets. In
those sonnets Edward Devere put his name: Vere or Uvre or Vere--he
puts his name in acrostics throughout all the sonnets. And the last
couple sonnets he puts his name in double acrostics. It's amazing,
showing that he wrote the sonnets.
Martin: Why were the Jesuits so upset about the Edict of Nantes, and
what was it's significance?
Phelps: Ok, the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes--it can be spelled
Nantes or Nantz. Anyway, the Edict of Nantes was put forward by King
Henry IV. King Henry IV was a Roman Catholic, but he converted to
Protestantism and he became a Huguenot. But he was not allowed to take
the throne of France until he renounced his Protestantism. So, for the
sake of the kingdom, he renounced his Protestantism, and in 1610, I
believe, issued forth the Edict of Nantes.
The Edict of Nantes guaranteed religious freedom to all the French.
That included the Protestant, Calvinist, Huguenots, which of course
included those who would have followed Admiral Coligny, who the
Jesuits murdered with that she-wolf, Catherine de Medici. With the
Edict of Nantes we have religious liberty in France. This cannot be.
France is a cornerstone of Jesuit power, so it cannot allow this to be
in place. The Council of Trent condemns it, because it's freedom of
conscience.
So, after they murder Henry IV with Ravaillac, when they stabbed him
through his heart, according to Sully in his memoirs, they murdered
Henry IV for this, and also for attempting to reinforce the Dutch.
They then, in 1685--when the Beatles are singing about the "Sun King"
in their "white" album, they're singing about Louis XIV. And that's
telling you that the Beatles are Jesuit-controlled. The Sun King,
Louis XIV who reigned, who rules over France for, I believe, 60 years,
he, because of his Jesuit confessor, Pere La Chaise, revokes the Edict
of Nantes, and with that, no more religious freedom in France.
And then they sent their French dragons out and beheaded and killed
every Huguenot they could find, driving 500,000 Frenchmen out of the
country, the wealth of France, the manhood of France, all left for
Holland and England. That destroyed France. From then on, France
became a nothing nation.
The French Revolution could never have happened had not the Revocation
of the Edict of Nantes taken place. Because now, there's no Bible in
France. And to this day, the French have never published a French
version of the Textus Receptus. Number one, all French Bibles have
been produced in foreign countries, when they've been translated from
the Greek Textus Receptus into French; France has never done it. That
shows the Jesuit power over France to this day.
And the French have probably been the most manly, the strongest, the
most gracious, the most determined in kicking the Jesuits out of their
country. They've kicked them out, to my knowledge, three times--and
again, they come back, foment wars, kill off the rulers, etc. Drive
Eugene Sue into exile; he dies of a broken heart. Drive Calvin into
exile; he can never return to France. All the great Frenchmen are
driven into exile.
So we have, as American patriots, we have a great camaraderie for the
French. They helped us in our American Revolution. And why did they
help us? Because they've been expelled from France. Why did Spain help
us? Why did they help finance our Revolution? The Jesuits had been
expelled from Spain. So payback came for Spain and France, for helping
this heretic, Protestant nation come into existence, with the
Napoleonic Wars, when they killed Louis XVI and drove the Bubons from
the Spanish thrown. That was payback.
Martin: For 30 years of war, from 1618-1648, you state that the
Jesuits, through Ferdinand II, killed-off 10 million people. That's
quite a statement.
Phelps: That statement comes from Ridpath's History Of The World,
published in 1899. And that is his encyclopedia of his history of the
world. That was common knowledge in 1899. The 30 Years War was hell on
Earth for Europe. Two-thirds of Germany was brought back to Rome. It
was leveled, plundered, and destroyed.
Wallenstein and Tilly were the fanatical Roman Catholic generals who
raped, pillaged, and plundered everything in their path. But the Lord
raised up certain great generals like Gustavus Adolphus from Sweden.
He was called the "Snow King" and he was the one who ultimately, he
paved the way for the victory of the 30 Years War.
But without that Protestant victory of the 30 Years War, the peace of
Westphalia, which the Pope was not invited to, there would have been
no modern era as we know it today. According to any historian, the
modern era begins in 1648. That is when the 80 Year War in Holland
ended with Spain. That is when the 30 Years War ended with Ferdinand
II and the Protestants of Germany, and Sweden, and so-on.
1648 is the wonderful year in which the Modern Era began, when
inventors could go to Germany and say: "Well, you know, maybe the
Earth isn't flat." And maybe Leeuwenhoek could invent the microscope
in Holland, and now, later on, James Clerk Maxwell, who was a
Bible-believing, Protestant Presbyterian, he can write his treatise
called Electricity And Magnetism, the father of what we know today
about electricity and magnetism. Now, science can blossom and bloom.
Now we can have literature. Now we can have great writers, like Sir
Walter Scott, who writes great works like Ivanhoe and Peveril Of The
Peak. Now we can have Charles Dickens, another Protestant, who writes
A Tale Of Two Cities, one of London and the other of Rome. We have
great literature surfacing as a result of the Modern Era.
But the Jesuits, in their determination to destroy the Reformation and
the Modern Era and bring us back to the Dark Ages, seek to reverse the
effects of the Modern Era, and thus, what was brought about by the 30
Years War. And to know the 30 Years War is to understand the second 30
Years War, which started in 1914 and ended in 1945.
Martin: In 1639, the Jesuits were also expelled from Japan. Apparently
the Jesuits never forgot that.
Phelps: They never forgot it. For over 200 years they have been
expelled. And remember the words of Lincoln: "The Jesuits never forget
nor forsake."
So, payback time was coming for Japan. The Emperor had expelled them,
so that dynasty was targeted. Ultimately, the Emperor would be
destroyed or his dynasty would end. And so payback time was the mass
fire-bombings by the American Air Force, financed by the Jesuits, as
the Jesuits own Lockheed, Boeing, McDonald-Douglas, and Grumman, and
they used their B-29 to firebomb Japan to smithereens. You can get the
fact that the Jesuits control these aircraft companies from Avro
Manhattan's The Vatican Billions.
Martin: I'm trying to get a little more current here, but some of this
older stuff is also so fascinating, I'm going back and forth here. Our
readers are just going to have to be a little flexible in their
reading. (laughter)
Phelps: Right.
Martin: In 1649 there was the Irish Massacre. What was it, and let's
discuss the hatred between the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland,
as a result of the Irish Massacre.
Phelps: Ok. Of course, we believe in freedom of speech, freedom of
conscience, freedom of the press. That is an outgrowth of
Protestantism, because all Protestants were defending their right to
believe the Bible in the face of Rome's expectations to believe the
priests and the decrees of the Popes.
Many of the Irish were born-again. They came to know the Lord. Much
preaching was done up there. In fact, Patrick, of St. Patrick's Day,
was no Catholic. He was a Protestant. And so, he was a great
Protestant preacher of Ireland, and many, many Irish came to know the
Lord. And their point of location was primarily in the North, in
Northern Ireland, which today is Ulster, Belfast, etc.
Well, the Jesuits, in fulfilling their Bloody Oath that we are making
and waging relentless war on all Protestants, and all political
liberals, they hatched-out the plot to kill all the Irish Protestants
in Ireland with the O'Neil family. And I wonder if that O'Neil family
was related to Tip O'Neil?
In 1641, the massacre began, carried out by Roman Catholic nobles and
the mobs in Ireland. When they started that massacre, it continued
from 1641 to 1649. The massacre ended when they killed 150,000, but
they still taught the Catholic children to kill the Protestant
children. So, Irish Protestants were being massacred, enmasse, for 8
years.
This is NEVER told whenever anybody is ever talking about Oliver
Cromwell, when Cromwell came up with his Puritan Army and ended that,
when he took Drogheda, and killed every living thing in Drogheda--men,
women, children, animal, everything.
Ones say: "Oh, the beast Oliver Cromwell. Look what he did to
Drogheda!" What about those beasts killing those Irish Protestants for
8 years, bashing out the brains of the little babies, smashing them up
against the walls like they did, led by the priests?
This was just like they did in Croatia with the Serbs in World War II,
when they gouged-out the eyes of all the Serbians, where one
particular priest had 23 kilos worth of eyes. They were doing the same
thing to the Irish Protestants.
So, when Cromwell came up, and it was vengeance for the Irish
Massacre, and the Irish Massacre was NOT started by the Protestants,
it was started by the Jesuits according to Fox's Book Of Martyrs. And
you can find the whole narration there, which was a classic that all
Englishmen used to read with the King James Bible.
Martin: Do you believe that Great Britain is truly
Protestant-controlled, Jewish-controlled, or Jesuit-controlled?
Phelps: Jesuit-controlled.
Martin: Why?
Phelps: Well, let's go back. To understand today we have to go back to
the Napoleonic Wars.
When Napoleon came to power, he was brought to power in Corsica. When
the Jesuits were suppressed, one of their main outposts during their
suppression was the Isle of Corsica. The Jesuits, remember, had
finished the High Rites of Freemasonry with Frederick the Great, and
then used their French Freemason Napoleon to execute their vengeance.
However, the Jesuits were also protected during their suppression in
England. A very wealthy landowner--and you can find this in Ridpath's
History Of The World--gave his wonderful, beautiful estate Stonyhurst
to the Jesuit Order. And from then on, the Jesuits received protection
by King George III, and you will find that in Mitchell's The Jesuits.
Mitchell is an English historian.
Ok, so the Jesuits are now protected by King George III. Well, they're
going to uphold his throne. The Jesuits use the English army and navy
in the resistance of Napoleon, as both sides are controlled, so that
the Jesuits can control the outcome.
The end result is that, after Napoleon accomplishes everything that
the Jesuits want him to do--the expulsion of the Knights of Malta, the
driving of the Roman Catholics from their throne, imprisoning the Pope
for 5 years, etc.--Napoleon is then ordered to abandon his army in the
snows of Russia, killing all of those French and German patriots, so
that there are very few patriots left in Europe to resist the tyranny
coming in France with Louis XVIII, who the Jesuits will put back on
the throne.
Louis XVIII was in exile, in England, in King George's own parlor,
waiting for the end of the Napoleonic Wars. So, the Jesuits put Louis
XVIII back on the throne. He readmitted the Jesuits, started the
Inquisition, just like they did with Ferdinand VII when they restored
him to power in Spain after the Napoleonic Wars.
And where do these monarchs get their protection? From King George
III. King George was used by the Jesuits to restore their power in
Europe, after the Napoleonic Wars, after they punished the Pope and
the monarchs.
So, it's been, really, from 1795, right around there, that the Jesuits
have controlled England. They've controlled the Knights, they've
controlled the King. All throughout the 18th century, now, England
will never go to war with France again. England will side with the
French during the Crimean War. England will be on the side of the
French during World Wars I & II. England and France are together, both
controlled by the Jesuits--even though France is predominantly a
Catholic country, and when England was, at least on it's face, a
Protestant country. Why should both be working together, both having
the same foreign policy. Why? Because the Jesuits control both
countries.
When Rothschild sent that note, via Roost, into London, saying that
Napolean had won the Battle of Waterloo, that's when the stocks
plummeted, and all the Jesuits bought all the stocks up, there in
London, and got control of the Bank of England. The Jesuits then made
London their commercial center of the world, and Rome their religious
center, aiming that one day Jerusalem would be both.
So now the Jesuits are in control of England. After the Napoleonic
Wars, we have the Congress of Vienna in 1815, and guess who's there?
All the representatives of King George. England is represented at the
Congress of Vienna, the settlement after the Napoleonic Wars. If
England was truly Protestant, they would have never went there. Now
the Jesuits are in control of England throughout the 1800s, and they
use the British Empire to further the power of the Pope. England has
been under Rome's control, the Pope's control, since, at the very
latest, 1850. And I say since 1795.
Martin: Let's talk about Elizabeth II.
Phelps: Elizabeth II is a wicked, evil queen. She is the head of the
Knights of Malta in England. She curtsies to the Lord Mayor in Old
London, and she goes and visits the Jesuits of Stonyhurst and kisses
their derrières. She has complete allegiance to the Jesuits of
Stonyhurst, and will do anything they tell her to do, or they'll get
rid of her just like they got rid of all the rest of the monarchs in
Europe.
Martin: So you see her as a pawn.
Phelps: She's just a pawn, sure. She's nothing. Remember, White men
rule the world. Evil, White, sodomite, homosexual men rule the world,
and these are the High Jesuits, with their High Knights of Malta and
High Freemasons, they rule. And these women who are involved are just
pawns in their game, like the queen, the queen of Holland, just to
give the appearance that these nations have a sovereign monarch, when
in fact, they're just tools.
England has done some awful, terrible things, but all of the things
that they have done increase and benefit the Jesuit Order. They never
resisted Napoleon III. Napoleon III was a fanatical Roman Catholic
Freemason, subject to the Jesuits, who was the King of France for 18
years, second Empire. England never resisted him. They fought with him
in the Crimean War. And Napoleon III dedicated all of his ships to the
Virgin Mary. England has been on the side of the Jesuits since 1815,
no later. So, that means that the British Secret Service is totally
working for Rome, all throughout the 1800s.
Martin: How did the Jesuits regain control of the Vatican in 1814?
Phelps: Remember that they were in control of Napoleon. A Jesuit by
the name of Abbie Sieyes--you can find him, again, in Ridpath's
History Of The World--Abbie Sieyes was a Jesuit-trained individual,
and I believe he was a Jesuit. He was on the Directory, and he was
also on the Consulate; he was the second counsel. Napoleon was the
first; he was the second. He was the advisor and director of Napoleon.
Abbie Sieyes, being the Jesuit that he was, ordered Napoleon to
imprison the Pope for 5 years, and he did! So, the Pope was in prison
for 5 years until 1814, when he restored the Jesuit Order. The Pope,
prior to that, was killed. They brought him over the mountains of the
Alps, and he died through that debacle.
The Jesuits thoroughly humiliated the papacy. They used their French
soldiers to overturn St. Peter's chair, and they found, written in
Arabic: "There is no other God but Allah, and Mohammed is his
prophet." And THAT is what is under St. Peter's chair today. That was
stolen from some kalif during the Crusades.
So, they completely intimidated the Pope and showed their power. The
Pope then restored them with a Papal Bull, calling upon the vengeance
of the Apostles Peter and Paul, blah, blah, blah, for anyone who would
ever suppress the Jesuit Order ever again. When the Jesuits were
"reinstalled" in all their power, that's when they were in control of
the Pope, and from then on they have been.
Any Pope who resists them gets punished or murdered. And all the Popes
know it. When Pius IX wanted a liberal constitution for the Italian
people in 1849, all of the Italians were delighted. Here is a liberal
Pope; he's going to give us constitutional rights; we're going to have
a constitution.
The Jesuits raised up a revolution with Garibaldi and their
Freemasons, and drove Pius IX from his throne. He had to stay in Gaeta
for about a year. When he returned to Rome, under the protection of
Napoleon III's French army--actually, it was the republic's army that
would later be his "army of the empire"--but they returned with a
French army, protecting the Pope, he became the most fanatical
absolutist, pursuant to the wishes of the Jesuits.
So, Piux IX was punished. But the Popes who don't obey, like, what was
it, In God's Name, the Pope who was murdered after 33 days, when he
didn't go along with the Jesuit Order, they ended his life.
[Editor's note: Eric is here referring to the very well researched and
deeply insightful 1984 Bantam Books gem (that's very hard to find, for
"some" reason!) by David A. Yallop, called In God's Name, which
details the author's thorough investigation into the murder of Pope
John Paul I the night of September 28-29, 1978 after John Paul had
been digging into the massive web of corruption surrounding the
Vatican Bank. For all of you who look for clues, note well the
choosing of day 33 since his election for the execution of the
murder.]
When you steal from the Vatican, like the Cardinal did at the PII
Lodge, they killed him (Kalvi), and they hanged the other guy,
beginning with the admiralty jurisdiction, at their first bridge of
the sea. So they have their assassins everywhere to carry out orders.
They are machines. They are the perfect "Manchurian Candidates" and
they will kill popes, cardinals, presidents, kings, and kaisers, to
maintain Jesuit power. They are utterly ruthless--just like they said
they would be in the Protocols: "We are merciless."
Martin: As you look around the world today, who do you see opposing
them?
Phelps: It's interesting. I have a friend who makes quite a few trips
to Haiti. I told her about the Jesuits. She got to questioning a few
people, and she found that Papa Doc had expelled the Jesuits from
Haiti.
Martin: No kidding?
Phelps: That's right. Isn't it interesting, his son was also driven
from power and the guy put in his place, I believe it was Aristide, is
a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a complete pawn of
the Pope and the Jesuit Order--for which reason, when those Haitians
wanted to drive Aristide from his power, this filthy,
Jesuit-controlled government in Washington put an embargo against
Haiti, wrecking the country. See how the U.S. government uses its
military, political, and financial power to maintain the temporal
power of the Pope? And that's not only in Haiti; it's everywhere.
Russia is another example.
Martin: Don't you see, coming up soon in Israel, some of these powers
coming head-to-head over the rebuilding of Solomon's Temple? Don't you
see some conflicts with the powers that be?
Phelps: Which powers are you talking about?
Martin: I don't know; there seem to be so many involved.
Phelps: We first have to remember the creation of the nation of
Israel. World War I prepared the land for the people. World War II
prepared the people for the land. World War III, the battle of
Armageddon, will "prepare the people for their messiah"--with national
repentance and realizing that "Jesus, the messiah, is the savior and
will deliver them".
The present government of Israel was set up by the High Masonic
Rothschild-controlled Jews, and Rothschild has had an alliance with
the Jesuit General since 1876, with Adam Weishaupt. This is the very
same Rothschild powers who betrayed the Jews into the hands of the
Nazis, killing many Jews all throughout Europe, betraying their own
Jewish people. These are the very same powers who run the nation of
Israel today.
I read a very interesting paragraph by Mark Lane in his book Plausible
Denial when he tells about a Jew in Israel who wrote about certain
criminal Jews, involved with the Nazis, who are now with the Mossad,
something along those lines. The man who wrote the article was
gunned-down in front of his home.
So, Rome controls the Israeli government. It controls the Israeli
government through the Mossad.
Who trained the Mossad? Reinhard Gehlen.
We find that fact in Loftus' work The Secret War Against The Jews in
most telling, telling detail.
So what do we have? We have high-level treason and betrayal of the
Jewish race; that is there in Israel today, by their own leaders, who
are loyal to Rome and the Jesuit Order. And to show this, we have a
great big Rockefeller edifice in Jerusalem; we have an ophthalmology
center in Jerusalem run by the Knights of Malta. There's nothing but
Knights of Malta, high-level Freemasonry, and the Jesuit Order running
all of Israel.
So what's going to happen, I believe, with the Dome of the Rock is,
that has got to be removed--somehow, someway. It's on the Temple site;
it has to be removed.
If I was the Jesuit General, I would make-- somehow, someway--American
bombers do it. Because I want to create universal hatred for this
nation of the United States, because in the United States there are
more Protestants and more Jews than any country in the world, and
"we've" got to kill all those people. So what better way than to
create a Jihad, a Moslem fanatical attack against the United States,
coupled with a Chinese invasion from the East. That's what I think is
going to happen.
The Jews are not going to destroy that Temple site because, if they
do, Rome will destroy their efforts of rebuilding the Temple.
Because, if Moslems control all of Jerusalem, that Temple will never
be rebuilt. It has to stay in Jewish hands--because the Jews, and
rightfully so, need their own homeland. They're entitled to the
nation. And they haven't had their own Temple of worship. They are
rightfully entitled to that.
But what they don't know is that they are being used by the Jesuits to
rebuild their own Temple, that they would love to have rebuilt, for
the Pope, so he can sit there and be the man of sin, the Anti-Christ
of the Book of Daniel, Chapter 9. That's what I see coming for Israel.
The assassination of Rabin? He wanted to give away too much. He
probably wanted to give away some of Jerusalem. The Jesuits will never
allow that. So, his bodyguards just step aside and the Mossad kills
him. And nothing more is ever heard.
Rome's--the Jesuit General's--international intelligence community
carries out all high-level assassinations, kills anybody who's against
their program. And Cromwell knew this, back in his day, and that's why
he protected himself--160 of his finest "ironsides" as his bodyguards,
and no one got to him.
So anybody who's going to resist the Jesuit Order has to be doing it
as a matter of a "religious" conviction--being protected by God and
good men who are loyal to Him. If it's simply political, with a hired
Secret Service, you can forget it.
Martin: Let's go back to St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York. Why is
that so significant? You talk about the American Pope. Again, that
person is?
Phelps: Cardinal O'Connor.
Martin: Now, what is his role in the United States?
Phelps: Ok, remember first that this title "American Pope" was gotten
from Conney's work. John Conney wrote The American Pope, I believe in
1988, so a lot of this information is from that document.
The American Pope is the Cardinal of New York. He is the most powerful
Cardinal in the United States. He is what's called "the military
vicar".
The military vicar is in command of all of the military orders within
the United States, they being the Knights of Malta and the Knights of
Columbus. He is also in command, and privately, of "the Commission"
because Cardinal Spellman was an intimate of Joe Kennedy, and Joe
Kennedy was an intimate of Frank Costello.
We also see that it was Cardinal Spellman who enabled "Lucky" Luciano
to be released from the prison in New York, to return to Italy in
1946. And this was because of the Luciano Project that I mentioned in
my book. But Lucky Luciano, his Mafia on the East Coast, worked in
conjunction with the U.S. Navy, supposedly to protect the Eastern
seaboard from German U-boat attack.
So, as payback? Cardinal Spellman releases Lucky Luciano--that filthy,
wicked, evil, heartless spiritual *****, who compelled young girls
into prostitution, probably one of the cruelest things any man could
do. He is released and sent back to Rome.
When the Kennedy assassination comes up, the Cardinal needs a favor.
After all, he's released Luciano. So now the Mafia gets to
participate: Jack Ruby, Carlos Marcello, Santos Trafficante, all the
High Dons participate. Why? Because that Cardinal in New York controls
the Commission.
And that Commission, you know what it controls? All of the trucking,
all the supermarkets, it's power is beyond our wildest imagination,
second only to the Knights of Malta. And, of course, they all control
the Federal Reserve Bank.
The Cardinal controls the Federal Reserve Bank through the Council on
Foreign Relations. The Council on Foreign Relations belongs to the
Cardinal. Spellman was not a member of it, during his day, but two of
the most powerful members were Knights of Malta: Henry Luce and J.
Peter Grace, and also William F. Buckley, to this day. William F.
Buckley is indeed one of my enemies, because I name him, and he is a
powerful multi-billionaire who participated in the Kennedy
assassination, just like Iacocca, another Knight. Both of those men
are subject to Cardinal O'Connor and will do ANYTHING he says.
Martin: Do you know who is head of the Knights of Malta, now?
Phelps: Yes; his name is Flynn. He took over when Grace died in '93.
Flynn is head of the American branch. The head of the worldwide
branch, the international Knights of Malta, is Andrew Bertie; he's an
Englishman. And you can find that in the National Catholic Reporter,
when you go after their various articles on the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Do the Knights of Malta actually meet, actually hold meetings
with the Jesuits?
Phelps: Oh, sure. Remember that Alexander Haig is a powerful Knight of
Malta. His brother is a Jesuit.
So, sure they have meetings. The High Knights of Malta, who meet in
their palace on Aventin Hill, in Rome, of course, meet with the Jesuit
General, and so on. And Count von Hoensbroech, who was a German Noble
who became a Jesuit for 14 years--he wrote a two-volume work called
Fourteen Years A Jesuit. His father was a Knight of Malta. Yes, the
Jesuits work in conjunction and have regular meetings with the Knights
of Malta.
The Knights control the money. The Knights control the banks. They
control the Bank of Canada, Federal Reserve Bank, Bank of England;
they control the banking. They were the ones who were behind the
sinking of the Titanic, with the creation of the White Star Line, J.P.
Morgan and others.
Martin: Alan Greenspan, then, would be?
Phelps: Alan Greenspan is a Jew, probably a Freemason, because he is
the leader of the Temple called the "Federal Reserve Bank" and they
always put Jews in the forefront--so that they can blame all of what
they do on the Jewish race in this country, to create an anti-Semitism
everywhere, just like Charles Coughlin, the radio Jesuit priest of the
'30s did.
Greenspan, Bloomenthal, Warburg, and all those Jews need to be
publicly rebuked, because they are creating the mass genocide of the
Jewish race in the United States. The Jews are being blamed right now
for the foreign policy in Bosnia. Madeline Albright--she's a
Jew--they're blaming her for what's going on in Serbia. I've got a
good Serbian friend who blames her. I said she's just a pawn of the
Jesuit CFR. Don't blame the Jewish people. It's these Jewish "pawns"
who are loyal to the Pope and the Jesuits who are doing this.
The Zionists--the Jesuits are the Great Zionists. They control all of
the historical High Zionists--Theodor Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, Golda
Meir. Zionism is a Masonic term, coined by the Jesuits. They are the
rulers; they are the Protocols; they are the Elders of Zion. So the
Zionists are, indeed, evil and wicked; but they are controlled by
Rome. The Jews are not all Zionists.
I remember when I went to Jerusalem and Israel in 1976, and a lady
said to this particular man that I had met: "You're more of a Zionist
than we are!" And I thought: "What does that mean? I don't understand
that."
I only later understood why Yasser Arafat says he doesn't hate the
Jews; he can't stand the Zionists. And I'm thinking: "What's the
difference?" I, later, learned that there is a great difference
between those Zionists and the other Jews. The Orthodox Jews can't
stand the Zionists.
So what's the difference? The Zionists are socialist communists,
controlled by Rome. They are atheists, just like the Jesuits, although
they're being used to rebuild the nation of Israel. They are the
enemies of the Jewish people, per se.
There's no conflict going on in the Middle East. There's no conflict
going on with the Arab nations. All of the Arab nations are under the
command of Masonic kings or iotollas. Saddam Hussein is no enemy of
George Bush; they're both brothers, brothers of the lodge. That whole
thing was set up to kill off a whole bunch of Arabs for the protection
of the Zionist state of Israel.
Martin: Well, Bush and Saddam were business partners. We've covered
that in recent past issues of our newspaper.
Phelps: Sure. That's why they never killed Saddam. They could have
easily killed him. The CIA can kill anybody they want to. They could
have easily killed Saddam and got out. They could use their own Arab
agents in there. Saddam was a very important tool.
Martin: Still is.
Phelps: Still is, sure. They keep the Arab peoples and nations at bay
by controlling them through their leaders. Or, when they start to get
out of control in their Moslem fanaticism, they then foment a war and
kill off a whole bunch of them. Make sense?
Martin: There was a statement you made in your book about the Jesuits
controlling the Nation of Islam, and that was almost a surprising
statement to read. I would think that someone like Louis Farrakhan
would be pretty adamant.
Phelps: Yeah, he would hate me for that one. Well, let's think a
little bit here:
Chicago is ruled by the Archbishop of Chicago, a Cardinal. It was
Cody; I don't know who it is now. Do you think anything goes down in
Chicago without the Cardinal's approval?
Where was the Nation of Islam founded? Chicago.
Where is Louis Farrakhan's--that murderer's--mansion? Chicago. He
lives like a king.
What does he hand out? He hands out the Protocols Of The Learned
Elders Of Zion to all of deluded Black Nation of Islam people, so that
they can hate the Jews, just like the Klu Klux Klan.
That's right. Those three little tidbits, right there, prove that the
Nation of Islam is totally under Jesuit control. They are going to be
used to foment anarchy and agitation, because they have an army called
"the fruit of Islam", and they have millions of rounds stored in all
the major cities--guns stored everywhere, so that they can start the
race war. And when that happens, you see, then the brothers in
Washington can implement Martial Law, suspend the Constitution, and
now the Jesuits have what they want.
So, they use these Blacks in the North, who hate the White people, for
their own destruction, for the destruction of the Black people
themselves. And the Nation of Islam is part of that.
When I was in the Air Force, and in jail for about 10-15 days, about
10 years ago, the Nation of Islam was paramount, or tried to be
paramount, there. All the Blacks in jail become Moslems. It's a "hate
the White man" religion. Every White man is a White, blue-eyed Devil.
And they're playing--the Zodiac killer, back in California many years
ago, all Moslems. So it's a "hate the White man" religion, designed to
foment agitation and unrest.
Martin Lucifer King was intimately involved with them. The only
problem is, Malcolm X got on to it. He realized he was being used and
he separated from it. Then he ceased to be an agitator.
Martin: Malcolm X was way ahead of his time.
Phelps: Yeah. Malcolm X was a good guy.
Martin: Yes, he was.
Phelps: Malcolm X, even though he was used by the Jesuits, because he
hated the King James Bible, he was a great agitator. When he went to
Mecca, he changed.
Martin: Yes, he did.
Phelps: And when he came back, he stopped being an agitator. He
stopped hating the White man. He started to set up the
African-American Movement. And as a result, he was assassinated by the
high leaders of the FBI and the Nation of Islam.
And what do they both have in common? High-level Shriner Freemasonry.
And so, we have the Masons in control of the Nation of Islam and the
Klu Klux Klan--one agitating Blacks, and the other agitating Whites,
to the glory of the Jesuit Order. The other Civil Rights Movement had
the Jesuits behind that--with LaFarge. Jesuit LeFarge was a great
mover and shaker of the Civil Rights Movements. And that agitation
resulted in amalgamation, race-mixing, the destruction of a White race
and a Black race, producing a nation of hybrids that cannot maintain
free government.
That is what they proposed to do in the first Reconstruction, but it
failed; so they succeeded in the second Reconstruction in the '60s.
The Jesuits are masters of the races. They know their strengths and
their weaknesses.
The only race who successfully resisted the Jesuit Order is the White,
Anglo-Celtic, Saxon race, with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the
other. And so they've got to take the Bible away, they've got to take
the gun away, and they've got to destroy that race. And that's what
they are essentially doing here. I know that's a racist statement, but
I'm sorry, it's just the way it is. That's history, and that's what
they're doing.
Martin: The relationship between Communism and Freemasonry. Where do
the Jesuits fit into Communism and Freemasonry?
Phelps: Let's, first of all, look at the relationship of Jesuitism to
Communism. The Jesuits perfected the tenets of Communism on their
reductions in Paraguay, for 150 years, from 1600-1750.
Martin: What is a reduction?
Phelps: A reduction is a commune. In Israel they would call it a
kibbutz. In Joseph Stalin's Russia they would call it a commune. In
New York they call it a village. In France, Paris, they called it a
commune. It's communal living where everybody is equal in their
finances, in the labors; you have no great, no small, no rich, no
poor--everybody is small, and everybody is poor, and everybody is
controlled by a dictator. That's the essence of Communism.
The Jesuits, on the reductions in Paraguay, which were the communes,
had a central bank, and it was "each according to their ability and
each according to their need". And so, the Guarani Indians that were
the subjects--and there were some 200,000 of these South American
Indian natives who were slaves of the Jesuits, putting their goods
into world commerce and trade. They were living under the tenets of
Communism, perfected by the Jesuits, as outlined in Plato's Republic
and Sir Thomas Moore's Utopia. The Jesuits perfected it on their
reductions.
With that, they then introduced Communism in 1848 through Karl Marx.
They tutored him in the British Museum, according to Alberto Rivera,
an ex-Jesuit.
So Marx, the Jewish Freemason, was to be the one to put forward this
Communism for the world, so that Communism would look like a Jewish
brain-child, so that Communism could be blamed on the Jews. Well,
what's not told is that the Jews involved in the implementing of
Communism were Masonic Jews. Karl Marx was a 33rd-degree Freemason, a
worshipper of Lucifer, whose father wanted nothing to do with him,
because his father was a Baptist preacher.
Jewish Freemasonry, controlled by the Jesuits, implemented Communism
in Russia. Lenin, the half-Jew, was a Freemason. That civil war that
took place from 1917-1922, for 5 years, was given the appearance that
it was primarily Yiddish. I mean, they're on the streets of Russia
talking Yiddish; they had Yiddish signs; and it was wanted to give the
impression to the world that this revolution was of Jewish origin.
For 10 years after the revolution, the Jews faired very well, but in
1922, Joseph Stalin, that great Jew-hater, who was educated by Jesuits
in Georgia--which was a country south of Russia and, therefore, the
Emperor's banning of the Jesuits from Russia, his Ukase, did not reach
to Georgia. So the Jesuits stayed in Georgia, trained Joseph Stalin,
brought him in after the Revolution, and made him Secretary of the
Communist Party in 1922, until he died in 1953.
The Jesuits used Freemasonry and, of course, Stalin was also a brother
Freemason. They used Freemasonry to implement Communism in Russia, and
from there, China, and from there, throughout the world.
When Germany had their revolution after World War I, their Communist
revolution--remember, they requested an armistice--they had never been
beaten on the field of battle.
The Germans were foisted into that war; they never started World War
I. It was started by France and Russia and England, for the purpose of
destroying Germany, because Germany had expelled the Jesuits. During
that war, the Germans requested an armistice to stop this Communist
revolution in Germany.
And who lead the revolution? The German Freemasons.
According to the Kaiser, in his memoirs, it was German Freemasonry
that got him off his throne and deposed him. He had to go into exile
in Holland. He wrote his memoirs in 1935.
So the relationship between Jesuitism, Communism and Freemasonry we
see evolving and expanding from the 1600s to the ultimate achievement
in the Bolshevik Revolution.
In my book, I parallel the French Revolution and the Bolshevik
Revolution, and they are identical. It was French Freemasonry that
caused the French Revolution and the Jacobins, and it was the
Freemasons in Russia, with Bolsheviks, who caused the Russian
Revolution, with their Bolsheviks, leading and ending in Joseph
Stalin. In France, it ended with Napoleon; in Russia, it ended with
Stalin. And so, that's the relationship there.
Martin: Why was Eugene Sue so significant?
Phelps: Eugene Sue wrote his masterpiece The Wandering Jew, and in
that masterpiece he weaves a fantastic story from India to England to
France, of the power of the Jesuit Order and their attempt to destroy
the Rennepont family, a French Huguenot Protestant family, and acquire
a fortune that's due to be inherited by the members of that family on
a certain day, at a certain time, in a certain year.
Well, that fortune is held, in trust, by a Jew, for which reason the
book is named The Wandering Jew. It tells of the power of the Jesuit
Order in that book, and how the Jesuits mercilessly killed all these
members of the Rennepont family so they could not inherit their
fortune.
The only one, I believe, they didn't kill was a priest, whose name was
Gabriel, who was a decent and a righteous Catholic priest who
repudiated the Jesuit Order. He ordered the Jew to burn all the
securities, that totaled something like $212 million, that would have
rightfully been this French family's.
So, the Jesuits didn't get it, nor did the French family get it. It's
written with such drama and feeling that you cannot put this book
down. It was translated into many different languages. As a result,
the French, and other nations, had their French Revolution, the second
French Revolution of 1848. But because it was not lead by Godly men,
it benefited the Jesuits.
Whenever you have a revolution led by unGodly men, it's just like a
man who's on a horse, trying to be pushed off the horse, and as he's
pushed off, another dictator takes his place. That's exactly what
happened in France, and Italy, and the nations who were involved in
that second French Revolution.
But Eugene Sue had motivated the people of France to expel the
Jesuits, and they were finally expelled in 1880 by a French Freemason,
in the 3rd Republic, Leon Gambetta. So, they're all Freemasons who
resist them, but they pay with their lives, like Garfield, like
Gambetta, Roosevelt, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Roosevelt really didn't
resist them; he just was killed by them.
Martin: Again, I'm jumping around.
Phelps: Ok.
Martin: What was Operation Mongoose?
Phelps: Operation Mongoose was purely "black ops" in the words of
Fletcher Prouty. Of course, Fletcher Prouty I consider the authority
on what Operation Mongoose was. Operation Mongoose was to "give the
appearance" of resistance to Castro's government by attacking Cuba
but, in effect, solidified his reign there. That's what it ultimately
produced. And that's what the Knights and the CIA ultimately wanted.
Ok?
The agreement that Kennedy made over the Cuban missile crisis in
1962--first of all, there was no missile crisis. There's no such thing
as nuclear war. There's no such thing as a nuclear attack. That's all
a hoax. It's just as much a hoax as going and landing on the Moon.
It's a hoax.
Nuclear war, that fear, was the basis for the Cuban missile crisis.
And out of that hoax, Kennedy strikes a secret deal with Khrushchev
that, if you keep the missiles out of Cuba, we won't bother Castro
anymore. Well, that's what the Jesuits wanted anyway. They wanted to
solidify Castro in power.
So that whole theatrical performance solidified Castro's power in
Cuba. And the question is: Why would the Jesuits create this fanatical
power in Cuba, run down the Cuban people, put them in poverty,
imprison them at random, create a living hell down there, drive out
the Mafia--the Mafia could no longer have their casinos in Havana?
Why would the Mafia give up their casinos? For the international drug
trade to be developing out of Vietnam.
Therefore, if the Mafia is leaving, and we don't have a bunch of
American tourists going down to Cuba anymore, and Cuba is really a
secret country--the Bible is not allowed there, missionaries are not
allowed in, obviously under Jesuit control, Castro was trained by
Jesuits--what's the purpose of Cuba under Castro?
It's purpose is as a landi |
