Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
Concerns Raised by the Vatican
by WAYNE MADSEN
(The following story was originally published by CounterPunch -
www.counterpunch.org -
on April 22, 2003.
Reprinted with permission from the author)
APRIL 28, 2003, 1700 hrs PDT (FTW) -- George W. Bush proclaims himself a
born-again Christian. However, Bush and fellow self-anointed neo-Christians
like House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, John Ashcroft, and sports arena Book
of Revelations carnival hawker Franklin Graham appear to wallow in a
"Christian" blood lust cult when it comes to practicing the teachings of the
founder of Christianity. This cultist form of Christianity, with its
emphasis on death rather than life, is also worrying the leaders of
mainstream Christian religions, particularly the Pope.
One only has to check out Bush's record as Governor of Texas to see his own
preference for death over life. During his tenure as Governor, Bush presided
over a record setting 152 executions, including the 1998 execution of fellow
born-again Christian Karla Faye Tucker, a convicted murderer who later led a
prison ministry. Forty of Bush's executions were carried out in 2000, the
year the Bush presidential campaign was spotlighting their candidate's
strong law enforcement record. The Washington Post's Richard Cohen reported
in October 2000 that one of the execution chamber's "tie-down team" members,
Fred Allen, had to prepare so many people for lethal injections during 2000,
he quit his job in disgust.
Bush mocked Tucker's appeal for clemency. In an interview with Talk
magazine, Bush imitated Tucker's appeal for him to spare her life - pursing
his lips, squinting his eyes, and in a squeaky voice saying, "Please don't
kill me." That went too far for former GOP presidential candidate Gary
Bauer, himself an evangelical Christian. "I think it is nothing short of
unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president
thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death," said
Bauer.
A former Texas Department of Public Safety officer, a devout Roman Catholic,
told this reporter that evidence to the contrary, Bush was more than happy
to ignore DNA data and documented cases of prosecutorial misconduct to send
innocent people to the Huntsville, Texas lethal injection chamber. He said
the number of executed mentally retarded, African Americans, and those who
committed capital crimes as minors was proof that Bush was insensitive and a
"phony Christian." When faced with similar problems in Illinois, Governor
George Ryan, a Republican, commuted the death sentences of his state's death
row inmates and released others after discovering they were wrongfully
convicted. Yet the Republican Party is pillorying Ryan and John Ashcroft's
Justice Department continues to investigate the former Governor for
political malfeasance as if Bush and Ashcroft are without sin in such
matters. Hypocrisy certainly rules in the Republican Party.
Bush's blood lust has been extended across the globe. He has given the CIA
authority to assassinate those deemed a threat to U.S. national interests.
Bush has virtually suspended Executive Orders 11905 (Gerald Ford), 12306
(Jimmy Carter), and 12333 (Ronald Reagan) which prohibit the assassination
of foreign leaders. Bush's determination to kill Saddam Hussein, his family,
and his top leaders with precision-guided missiles and tactical nuclear
weapon-like Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) bombs is yet another
indication of Bush's disregard for his Republican and Democratic
predecessors. It now appears that in his zeal to kill Hussein, innocent
civilian patrons of a Baghdad restaurant were killed by one of Bush's
precision Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs). Like it or not, Saddam
Hussein was recognized by over 100 nations as the leader of Iraq -- a member
state of the United Nations. Hussein, like North Korea' Kim Jong Il, Syria's
Bashir Assad, and Iran's Mohammed Khatami, are covered by Executive Order
12333, which the Bush mouthpieces claim is still in effect. Bush's
"Christian" blood cult sees no other option than death for those who become
his enemies. This doctrine is found no place in Christian theology.
Bush has not once prayed for the innocent civilians who died as a result of
the U.S. attack on Iraq. He constantly "embeds" himself with the military at
Goebbels-like speech fests and makes constant references to God when he
refers to America's "victory" in Iraq, as if God endorses his sordid killing
spree. He makes no mention of the children, women, and old men killed by
America's "precision-guided" missiles and bombs and trigger-happy U.S.
troops. In fact, Bush revels in indiscriminate blood letting. Since he never
experienced such killing in Southeast Asia, when he was AWOL from his Texas
Air National Guard unit, Bush just does not seem to understand the horror of
a parent watching one's children having their heads and limbs blown off in a
sudden blast of shrapnel or children witnessing their parents burning to
death with their own body fat nurturing the flames.
Bush and his advisers, previously warned that Iraq's ancient artifacts and
collection of historical documents and books were in danger of being looted
or destroyed, instead, sat back while the Baghdad and Mosul museums and
Baghdad Library were ransacked and destroyed. Cult leaders have historically
attempted to destroy history in order to invent their own. The Soviets tried
to obliterate Russia's Orthodox traditions, turning a number of churches
into warehouses and animal barns. Cambodia's Pol Pot tried to wipe out
Buddhism's famed Angkor Wat shrine in an attempt to stamp out his country's
Buddhist history. In March 2001, while they were negotiating with the Bush
administration on a natural gas pipeline, Afghanistan's Taliban blew up two
massive 1600-year old Buddhas in Bamiyan. The Bush administration, itself
run by fanatic religious cultists, barely made a fuss about the loss of the
relics. It would not be the first time the cultists within the Bush
administration ignored the pillaging of history's treasures.
The ransacking of Iraq's historical treasures is explainable when one
considers what the blood cult Christians really think about Islam. Franklin
Graham, the heir to the empire built up by his anti-Semitic father, Billy
Graham, has decided being anti-Muslim is far more financially rewarding than
being anti-Jewish. Billy Graham, history notes from the Nixon tapes,
complained about the Jewish stranglehold on the media and Jews being
responsible for pornography.
Franklin Graham continues to enjoy his father's unfettered and questionable
access to the White House. But in the case of Bush, the younger Graham has a
fanatic adherent. Graham has called Islam a "very evil and wicked" religion.
He then announces he wants to go to Iraq. Graham obviously sees an
opportunity to convert Muslims and unrepentant Eastern Christians, who owe
their allegiance to Roman and Greek prelates, to his perverted form of blood
cult Christianity. Graham says he is ready to send his Samaritan's Purse
missionaries into Iraq to provide assistance. Muslims and mainstream
Christians are wary that Graham wants to exchange food, water, and medicine
for the baptism of Iraqis into his intolerant brand of Christianity. In the
last Gulf War, Graham could not get away with his chicanery. The Desert
Storm Commander, General Norman Schwarzkopf, stopped dead in the tracks
Graham's plan to send 30,000 Arabic language Bibles to U.S. troops in Saudi
Arabia. Today's Pentagon shows no such compunction to put a rein on Graham.
It invited him to give a Good Friday sermon at the Pentagon to the
consternation of the Defense Department's Muslim employees. To make matters
worse, under Bush's "Faith Based Initiative," Graham's Samaritan's Purse
stands to receive U.S. government funds for its proselytizing efforts in
Iraq, something that should be an affront to every American taxpayer.
Bush's self-proclaimed adherence to Christianity (during one of the
presidential debates he said Jesus Christ was his favorite "philosopher")
and his constant reference to a new international structure bypassing the
United Nations system and long-standing international treaties are worrying
the top leadership of the Roman Catholic Church. Well-informed sources close
to the Vatican report that Pope John Paul II is growing increasingly
concerned about Bush's ultimate intentions. The Pope has had experience with
Bush's death fetish. Bush ignored the Pope's plea to spare the life of Karla
Faye Tucker. To show that he was similarly ignorant of the world's
mainstream religions, Bush also rejected an appeal to spare Tucker from the
World Council of Churches - an organization that represents over 350 of the
world's Protestant and Orthodox Churches. It did not matter that Bush's own
Methodist Church and his parents' Episcopal Church are members of the World
Council.
Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs, and his
constant references to "evil doers," in the eyes of many devout Catholic
leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of
Revelations - the anti-Christ. People close to the Pope claim that amid
these concerns, the Pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to
confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in
Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice
of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New
Testament. Before he became Pope, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now
standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has
gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or
wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now
facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of
the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel." The Pope, who grew up facing the evils
of Hitler and Stalin, knows evil when he sees it. Although we can all
endlessly argue over the Pope's effectiveness in curtailing abuses within
his Church, his accomplishments external to Catholicism are impressive.
According to journalists close to the Vatican, the Pope and his closest
advisers are also concerned that the ultimate acts of evil - the September
11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon - were known in
advance by senior Bush administration officials. By permitting the attacks
to take their course, there is a perception within the Roman Catholic Church
hierarchy that a coup d'etat was implemented, one that gave Bush and his
leadership near-dictatorial powers to carry out their agenda.
The Pope worked tirelessly to convince leaders of nations on the UN Security
Council to oppose Bush's war resolution on Iraq. Vatican sources claim they
had not seen the Pope more animated and determined since he fell ill to
Parkinson's Disease. In the end, the Pope did convince the leaders of
Mexico, Chile, Cameroon, and Guinea to oppose the U.S. resolution. If one
were to believe in the Book of Revelations, as the Pope fervently does, he
can seek solace in scoring a symbolic victory against the Bush
administration. Whether Bush represents a dangerous right-wing ideologue who
couples his political fanaticism with a neo-Christian blood cult (as I
believe) or he is either the anti-Christ or heralds one, the Pope should
know he has fought the good battle and has gained the respect and admiration
of many non-Catholics around the world.
-- Wayne Madsen is a Washington-based investigative journalist and former
naval officer assigned to the National Security Agency. He testified before
Cynthia McKinney's hearing on the genocide in the DRC in May 2001 and has
worked with Bob Barr on privacy legislation in the past. He wrote the
introduction to Forbidden Truth. Madsen can be reached at:
WMadsen777@aol.com
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Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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23 Sep 2004 03:29:16 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:21:45 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:WWg4d.73976$KU5.60868@edtnps89...
[snip]
So the killer's killer should be killed for killing, the same as the
killer
was. There's no end to this Jean.
Only in your dreams. The same bush who said you shall not kill in Exodus
20,13 said how to deal with killers in Exodus 22,13. there is no
retaliation for killing a killer it is God's will.
J.
So, depending on the circumstances, killing is A-OK in God's eyes ... how
many innocent people were wrongly killed based on this?
No, killing is not ok, hence why God said that killers must be killed.
Killing killers is ok.
Debunked by your own hand.
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23 Sep 2004 05:32:38 AM |
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Dream on mosquito.
J.
Cuan a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:21:45 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:WWg4d.73976$KU5.60868@edtnps89...
[snip]
So the killer's killer should be killed for killing, the same as the
killer
was. There's no end to this Jean.
Only in your dreams. The same bush who said you shall not kill in Exodus
20,13 said how to deal with killers in Exodus 22,13. there is no
retaliation for killing a killer it is God's will.
J.
So, depending on the circumstances, killing is A-OK in God's eyes ... how
many innocent people were wrongly killed based on this?
No, killing is not ok, hence why God said that killers must be killed.
Killing killers is ok.
Debunked by your own hand.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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23 Sep 2004 03:27:44 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:33:10 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
No, no ... no exceptions ...Jean means *implementation* ...
implementation
makes all the difference when you're killing someone.
Implementation of the consequences of breaking that commandment, as the
bible says in Exodus 21,12.
J.
So the killer's killer should be killed for killing, the same as the killer
was. There's no end to this Jean.
Only in your dreams. The same bush who said you shall not kill in Exodus
20,13 said how to deal with killers in Exodus 22,13. there is no
retaliation for killing a killer it is God's will.
If you want to preach to us Jean, perhaps it would be a good idea to
have even a basic knowledge of the scriptures. The burning bush (God
willing) did not give any commandment of the sort.
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23 Sep 2004 05:32:17 AM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:33:10 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
No, no ... no exceptions ...Jean means *implementation* ...
implementation
makes all the difference when you're killing someone.
Implementation of the consequences of breaking that commandment, as the
bible says in Exodus 21,12.
J.
So the killer's killer should be killed for killing, the same as the killer
was. There's no end to this Jean.
Only in your dreams. The same bush who said you shall not kill in Exodus
20,13 said how to deal with killers in Exodus 21,12. there is no
retaliation for killing a killer it is God's will.
If you want to preach to us Jean, perhaps it would be a good idea to
have even a basic knowledge of the scriptures. The burning bush (God
willing) did not give any commandment of the sort.
Read Exodus 20 and 21 and tell us then who if not the bush in both
occasions if you are not merely a liar as usual.
J.
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23 Sep 2004 09:32:30 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:32:17 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:33:10 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
No, no ... no exceptions ...Jean means *implementation* ...
implementation
makes all the difference when you're killing someone.
Implementation of the consequences of breaking that commandment, as the
bible says in Exodus 21,12.
J.
So the killer's killer should be killed for killing, the same as the killer
was. There's no end to this Jean.
Only in your dreams. The same bush who said you shall not kill in Exodus
20,13 said how to deal with killers in Exodus 21,12. there is no
retaliation for killing a killer it is God's will.
If you want to preach to us Jean, perhaps it would be a good idea to
have even a basic knowledge of the scriptures. The burning bush (God
willing) did not give any commandment of the sort.
Read Exodus 20 and 21 and tell us then who if not the bush in both
occasions if you are not merely a liar as usual.
I'll do much better than that...
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EXODUS 20:1 And God spoke all these words:
20:2 I, the Lord, am your God, who brought you from the land of Egypt,
from the house of bondage.
20:3 You shall have no other gods before me.
20:4 You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of
anything that is in heaven above, or that is on earth under it, or
that is in the water below. 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or
serve them, for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, who visits
the iniquity of fathers on children, even to the third and fourth
generations of those who hate me, 20:6 but who extends faithful love
to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my
commandments.
20:7 You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the
Lord will not hold guiltless anyone who takes his name in vain.
20:8 Remember the Sabbath day to sanctify it. 20:9 For six days you
may labor and do all your work, 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath
to the Lord your God; on it you shall not do any work, you, or your
son, or your daughter, or your male servant, or your female servant,
or your cattle, or your resident foreigner who is in your gates. 20:11
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth and the sea
and all that is in them, and he rested on the seventh day; therefore
the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and sanctified it.
20:12 Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in
the land the Lord your God is giving to you.
20:13 You shall not murder.
20:14 You shall not commit adultery.
20:15 You shall not steal.
20:16 You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
20:17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet
your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant,
nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that belongs to your
neighbor.
20:18 And all the people were seeing the thunderings and the
lightning, and heard the sound of the horn, and the mountain
smoking—and when the people saw it they trembled with fear and kept
their distance. 20:19 And they said to Moses, “You speak to us and we
will listen, but do not let God speak with us, lest we die.” 20:20 And
Moses said to the people, “Do not fear, for God has come to test you,
that the fear of him may be before you so that you do not sin.” 20:21
The people kept their distance, but Moses drew near the thick darkness
where God was.
20:22 The Lord said to Moses: “Thus you will say to the Israelites:
‘You yourselves have seen that I have spoken with you from heaven.
20:23 You must not make alongside me gods of silver, nor make gods of
gold for yourselves.
20:24 You must make for me an altar made of earth, and you will
sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings, your
sheep and your cattle. In every place where I cause my name to be
honored I will come to you and I will bless you. 20:25 And if you make
me an altar of stone, you must not build it of hewn stone, for if you
use your tool on it you will have defiled it. 20:26 And you must not
go up by steps to my altar, so that your nakedness is not exposed.’
21:11 These are the decisions that you will set before them:
21:22 If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years,
but in the seventh year he will go out free without paying anything.
21:3 If he came in by himself he will go out by himself; if he had a
wife when he comes in, then his wife will go out with him. 21:4 If his
master gave him a wife, and she bore sons or daughters, the wife and
the children will belong to her master, and he will go out by himself.
21:5 But if the servant should declare, ‘I love my master, and my
wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ 21:6 then his master
will bring him to the judges, and he will bring him to the door, or
the doorposts, and his master will bore through his ear with an awl,
and he shall serve him forever.
21:7 If a man sells his daughter as a female servant, she will not go
out as the men servants do. 21:8 If she does not please her master,
who has desired her for himself, then he must let her be redeemed. He
has no right to sell her to a foreign nation, because he has dealt
deceitfully with her. 21:9 And if he designated her for his son, then
he will deal with her after the manner of daughters. 21:10 If he takes
another wife, he must not diminish her food, her clothing, and her
marital rights. 21:11 And if he does not provide her with these three
things, then she will go out free, without paying money.
21:12 Whoever strikes someone so that he dies must surely be put to
death. 21:13 But if he does not do it with premeditation, but it comes
about by accident, then I will appoint for you a place where he may
flee. 21:14 But if a man willfully attacks his neighbor to kill him
with guile, you will take him from my altar to die.
21:15 And whoever strikes his father and his mother must surely be put
to death.
21:16 And whoever kidnaps someone and sells him, or he is found still
holding him, must surely be put to death.
21:17 And whoever treats his father or his mother disgracefully must
surely be put to death.
21:18 And if men fight, and one strikes his neighbor with a stone, or
with his fist, and he does not die, but must remain in bed, 21:19 and
then if he rises and walks about outside on his staff, then the one
who struck him is innocent, except he must pay for the injured
person’s loss of time and see that he is fully healed.
21:20 And if a man strikes his servant or his female servant with a
rod so that he or she dies as a result of the blow, he will surely be
punished. 21:21 However, if the injured servant survives one or two
days, the owner will not be punished, for he has suffered the loss.
21:22 And if men fight and hit a pregnant woman and her child is born
prematurely, but there is no serious injury, he will surely be
punished in accordance with what the woman’s husband will put on him,
and he will pay what the court decides. 21:23 But if there is serious
injury, then you will give a life for a life, 21:24 eye for eye, tooth
for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 21:25 burn for burn, wound
for wound, bruise for bruise.
21:26 And if a man strikes the eye of his servant, or the eye of his
female servant, so that he destroys it, he will let him go free for
the sake of his eye. 21:27 And if he knocks out the tooth of his
servant, or the tooth of his female servant, he will let him go free
for the sake of the tooth.
21:28 If a bull gores a man or a woman so that either dies, then the
ox must surely be stoned and its flesh must not be eaten; but the
owner of the bull will be acquitted. 21:29 But if the bull had the
habit of goring, and its owner was warned, and he did not take the
necessary precautions, and then it killed a man or a woman, the bull
must be stoned and the man must be put to death. 21:30 If a ransom is
set for him, then he must pay the redemption for his life according to
whatever was set for him. 21:31 If it gores a son or a daughter,
according to this judgment will it be done to him. 21:32 If the bull
gores a male servant or a female servant, he must pay thirty shekels
of silver, and the ox must be stoned.
21:33 If a man opens a pit, or if he digs a pit, and does not cover
it, and an ox or a donkey falls into it, 21:34 the owner of the pit
must repay the loss. He must give money to the owner of them, and the
dead animal will be his. 21:35 And if the bull of one man injures the
bull of his neighbor so that it dies, then they will sell the live
bull and divide its proceeds, and they will also divide the dead bull.
21:36 Or if it is known that the bull had the habit of goring, and its
owner did not take the necessary precautions, he must surely pay bull
for bull, and the dead animal will be his.
===
So then. Where is the bush, hmm?
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In front of God. He couldn't be looked at directly.
Thanks for making my point though.
J.
Cuan a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:32:17 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:33:10 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
No, no ... no exceptions ...Jean means *implementation* ...
implementation
makes all the difference when you're killing someone.
Implementation of the consequences of breaking that commandment, as the
bible says in Exodus 21,12.
J.
So the killer's killer should be killed for killing, the same as the killer
was. There's no end to this Jean.
Only in your dreams. The same bush who said you shall not kill in Exodus
20,13 said how to deal with killers in Exodus 21,12. there is no
retaliation for killing a killer it is God's will.
If you want to preach to us Jean, perhaps it would be a good idea to
have even a basic knowledge of the scriptures. The burning bush (God
willing) did not give any commandment of the sort.
Read Exodus 20 and 21 and tell us then who if not the bush in both
occasions if you are not merely a liar as usual.
I'll do much better than that...
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EXODUS 20:1 And God spoke all these words:
20:2 I, the Lord, am your God, who brought you from the land of Egypt,
from the house of bondage.
20:3 You shall have no other gods before me.
20:4 You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of
anything that is in heaven above, or that is on earth under it, or
that is in the water below. 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or
serve them, for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, who visits
the iniquity of fathers on children, even to the third and fourth
generations of those who hate me, 20:6 but who extends faithful love
to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my
commandments.
20:7 You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the
Lord will not hold guiltless anyone who takes his name in vain.
20:8 Remember the Sabbath day to sanctify it. 20:9 For six days you
may labor and do all your work, 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath
to the Lord your God; on it you shall not do any work, you, or your
son, or your daughter, or your male servant, or your female servant,
or your cattle, or your resident foreigner who is in your gates. 20:11
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth and the sea
and all that is in them, and he rested on the seventh day; therefore
the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and sanctified it.
20:12 Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in
the land the Lord your God is giving to you.
20:13 You shall not murder.
20:14 You shall not commit adultery.
20:15 You shall not steal.
20:16 You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
20:17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet
your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant,
nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that belongs to your
neighbor.
20:18 And all the people were seeing the thunderings and the
lightning, and heard the sound of the horn, and the mountain
smoking—and when the people saw it they trembled with fear and kept
their distance. 20:19 And they said to Moses, “You speak to us and we
will listen, but do not let God speak with us, lest we die.” 20:20 And
Moses said to the people, “Do not fear, for God has come to test you,
that the fear of him may be before you so that you do not sin.” 20:21
The people kept their distance, but Moses drew near the thick darkness
where God was.
20:22 The Lord said to Moses: “Thus you will say to the Israelites:
‘You yourselves have seen that I have spoken with you from heaven.
20:23 You must not make alongside me gods of silver, nor make gods of
gold for yourselves.
20:24 You must make for me an altar made of earth, and you will
sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings, your
sheep and your cattle. In every place where I cause my name to be
honored I will come to you and I will bless you. 20:25 And if you make
me an altar of stone, you must not build it of hewn stone, for if you
use your tool on it you will have defiled it. 20:26 And you must not
go up by steps to my altar, so that your nakedness is not exposed.’
21:11 These are the decisions that you will set before them:
21:22 If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years,
but in the seventh year he will go out free without paying anything.
21:3 If he came in by himself he will go out by himself; if he had a
wife when he comes in, then his wife will go out with him. 21:4 If his
master gave him a wife, and she bore sons or daughters, the wife and
the children will belong to her master, and he will go out by himself.
21:5 But if the servant should declare, ‘I love my master, and my
wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ 21:6 then his master
will bring him to the judges, and he will bring him to the door, or
the doorposts, and his master will bore through his ear with an awl,
and he shall serve him forever.
21:7 If a man sells his daughter as a female servant, she will not go
out as the men servants do. 21:8 If she does not please her master,
who has desired her for himself, then he must let her be redeemed. He
has no right to sell her to a foreign nation, because he has dealt
deceitfully with her. 21:9 And if he designated her for his son, then
he will deal with her after the manner of daughters. 21:10 If he takes
another wife, he must not diminish her food, her clothing, and her
marital rights. 21:11 And if he does not provide her with these three
things, then she will go out free, without paying money.
21:12 Whoever strikes someone so that he dies must surely be put to
death. 21:13 But if he does not do it with premeditation, but it comes
about by accident, then I will appoint for you a place where he may
flee. 21:14 But if a man willfully attacks his neighbor to kill him
with guile, you will take him from my altar to die.
21:15 And whoever strikes his father and his mother must surely be put
to death.
21:16 And whoever kidnaps someone and sells him, or he is found still
holding him, must surely be put to death.
21:17 And whoever treats his father or his mother disgracefully must
surely be put to death.
21:18 And if men fight, and one strikes his neighbor with a stone, or
with his fist, and he does not die, but must remain in bed, 21:19 and
then if he rises and walks about outside on his staff, then the one
who struck him is innocent, except he must pay for the injured
person’s loss of time and see that he is fully healed.
21:20 And if a man strikes his servant or his female servant with a
rod so that he or she dies as a result of the blow, he will surely be
punished. 21:21 However, if the injured servant survives one or two
days, the owner will not be punished, for he has suffered the loss.
21:22 And if men fight and hit a pregnant woman and her child is born
prematurely, but there is no serious injury, he will surely be
punished in accordance with what the woman’s husband will put on him,
and he will pay what the court decides. 21:23 But if there is serious
injury, then you will give a life for a life, 21:24 eye for eye, tooth
for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 21:25 burn for burn, wound
for wound, bruise for bruise.
21:26 And if a man strikes the eye of his servant, or the eye of his
female servant, so that he destroys it, he will let him go free for
the sake of his eye. 21:27 And if he knocks out the tooth of his
servant, or the tooth of his female servant, he will let him go free
for the sake of the tooth.
21:28 If a bull gores a man or a woman so that either dies, then the
ox must surely be stoned and its flesh must not be eaten; but the
owner of the bull will be acquitted. 21:29 But if the bull had the
habit of goring, and its owner was warned, and he did not take the
necessary precautions, and then it killed a man or a woman, the bull
must be stoned and the man must be put to death. 21:30 If a ransom is
set for him, then he must pay the redemption for his life according to
whatever was set for him. 21:31 If it gores a son or a daughter,
according to this judgment will it be done to him. 21:32 If the bull
gores a male servant or a female servant, he must pay thirty shekels
of silver, and the ox must be stoned.
21:33 If a man opens a pit, or if he digs a pit, and does not cover
it, and an ox or a donkey falls into it, 21:34 the owner of the pit
must repay the loss. He must give money to the owner of them, and the
dead animal will be his. 21:35 And if the bull of one man injures the
bull of his neighbor so that it dies, then they will sell the live
bull and divide its proceeds, and they will also divide the dead bull.
21:36 Or if it is known that the bull had the habit of goring, and its
owner did not take the necessary precautions, he must surely pay bull
for bull, and the dead animal will be his.
===
So then. Where is the bush, hmm?
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:43:43 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady! Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
No, no ... no exceptions ...Jean means *implementation* ... implementation
makes all the difference when you're killing someone.
Implementation of the consequences of breaking that commandment, as the
bible says in Exodus 21,12.
My my...Jeanipoo. How draconian of you? Jane will be running away
screaming.
EXODUS 21:12 Whoever strikes someone so that he dies must surely be
put to death. 21:13 But if he does not do it with premeditation, but
it comes about by accident, then I will appoint for you a place where
he may flee. 21:14 But if a man willfully attacks his neighbor to kill
him with guile, you will take him from my altar to die.
21:15 And whoever strikes his father and his mother must surely be put
to death.
21:16 And whoever kidnaps someone and sells him, or he is found still
holding him, must surely be put to death.
21:17 And whoever treats his father or his mother disgracefully must
surely be put to death.
21:18 And if men fight, and one strikes his neighbor with a stone, or
with his fist, and he does not die, but must remain in bed, 21:19 and
then if he rises and walks about outside on his staff, then the one
who struck him is innocent, except he must pay for the injured
person’s loss of time and see that he is fully healed.
21:20 And if a man strikes his servant or his female servant with a
rod so that he or she dies as a result of the blow, he will surely be
punished. 21:21 However, if the injured servant survives one or two
days, the owner will not be punished, for he has suffered the loss.
21:22 And if men fight and hit a pregnant woman and her child is born
prematurely, but there is no serious injury, he will surely be
punished in accordance with what the woman’s husband will put on him,
and he will pay what the court decides. 21:23 But if there is serious
injury, then you will give a life for a life, 21:24 eye for eye, tooth
for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 21:25 burn for burn, wound
for wound, bruise for bruise.
21:26 And if a man strikes the eye of his servant, or the eye of his
female servant, so that he destroys it, he will let him go free for
the sake of his eye. 21:27 And if he knocks out the tooth of his
servant, or the tooth of his female servant, he will let him go free
for the sake of the tooth.
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked "What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady! Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nope. Christians go by the whole bible.
You are not a Christian.
J.
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady! Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nope. Christians go by the whole bible.
Nope, Christians follow Jesus Christ who said "maintain the Commandments"
and who said "he who is without sin casts the first stone" and who said that
you turn the other cheeck when someone slaps your face etcetera etcetera.
Nowhere in the new testamony you find a place where Jesus is in favour of
the deathpenalty. You will find other statements au contrair.
You are not a Christian.
Well, I am sorry to inform you that most countries in the west with roots
into Christianity have abolished the deathpenalty as a barbaric abnormality
unlike the USA who regarding this barbaric act still lives in the dark ages.
Why? Thou shalled not kill!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady! Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nope. Christians go by the whole bible.
Nope, Christians follow Jesus Christ who said "maintain the Commandments"
and who said "he who is without sin casts the first stone" and who said that
you turn the other cheeck when someone slaps your face etcetera etcetera.
Nowhere in the new testamony you find a place where Jesus is in favour of
the deathpenalty. You will find other statements au contrair.
You are not a Christian.
Well, I am sorry to inform you that most countries in the west with roots
into Christianity have abolished the deathpenalty as a barbaric abnormality
unlike the USA who regarding this barbaric act still lives in the dark ages.
Why? Thou shalled not kill!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
I am sorry but God who gave the commandment to Moses in Exodus 20,13 is
the same God who went on to tell him AT THE SAME VERY MOMENT He told him
he had to expose these to these 10 commandments to them, in Exodus 21,1
"And here are the judiciary decisions that you will have to expose to
them... and He enumerated them, and about this commandment, He the
highest of all, said, in Exodus 21, 12, he who strike a man so that he
dies must be put to death without delay.
I mean there is no disconnect there, he said the commandments you bow to
from the "bush", and also said the consequences, from the same bush at
the same moment.
Now you cannot dissociate one from the other. If God said both at the
same moment, all you say to say one part is ok but the other is not is vain.
The Bush today is quite eloquent too. That is why demons like you don't,
like him. ;-)
J.
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22 Sep 2004 07:57:18 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nope. Christians go by the whole bible.
Nope, Christians follow Jesus Christ who said "maintain the
Commandments"
and who said "he who is without sin casts the first stone" and who said
that
you turn the other cheeck when someone slaps your face etcetera
etcetera.
Nowhere in the new testamony you find a place where Jesus is in favour
of
the deathpenalty. You will find other statements au contrair.
You are not a Christian.
Well, I am sorry to inform you that most countries in the west with
roots
into Christianity have abolished the deathpenalty as a barbaric
abnormality
unlike the USA who regarding this barbaric act still lives in the dark
ages.
Why? Thou shalled not kill!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
I am sorry but God who gave the commandment to Moses in Exodus 20,13 is
the same God who went on to tell him AT THE SAME VERY MOMENT He told him
he had to expose these to these 10 commandments to them, in Exodus 21,1
"And here are the judiciary decisions that you will have to expose to
them... and He enumerated them, and about this commandment, He the
highest of all, said, in Exodus 21, 12, he who strike a man so that he
dies must be put to death without delay.
That is something you cannot prove. Odd isn't it? First Moses climbs up a
hill and talks directly to God. God orders to contruct in stone The Ten
Commandments. One of them: Thou shalled not kill. God does not state
to Moses Thou shalled not kill unless someone else killed. Then Moses
comes all the way down the hill again. Does not go up again to receive
further commandments by God, but then decides to add all kinds of other
*laws* which God never gave him on the hill. The only reason for such
*laws* is that they were just invented by the jews, because they thought
that 10 was too little.
I mean there is no disconnect there, he said the commandments you bow to
from the "bush", and also said the consequences, from the same bush at
the same moment.
What is this bushthing? He went upon a hill in a desert. See further my
explanation about Commandments versus jewish laws which were not
from God.
Now you cannot dissociate one from the other. If God said both at the
same moment, all you say to say one part is ok but the other is not is
vain.
God gave him the Ten Commandments directly. The other *laws* are
manmade and in stark contradiction to the Ten Commandments.
Imagine I see my father killing someone. According to the *laws* of
the jews I must kill him, but according to the Ten Commandments I
must honour my father. That is a huge contradiction and God could
have never meant it that way. So, Ten Commandments yes, the jewish
laws no, because they are not from God since they contradict the
Ten Commandments which indeed came from God.
The Bush today is quite eloquent too. That is why demons like you don't,
like him. ;-)
Nope, by his actions you can recognize a warmonging Antichrist, and that
is what he is, that is what he became since his oath at the Skull and Bones
club. The Bible condems any oathswearing.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| Title: Re: The "Christian" Blood Cult of GW Bush |
22 Sep 2004 10:05:03 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nope. Christians go by the whole bible.
Nope, Christians follow Jesus Christ who said "maintain the
Commandments"
and who said "he who is without sin casts the first stone" and who said
that
you turn the other cheeck when someone slaps your face etcetera
etcetera.
Nowhere in the new testamony you find a place where Jesus is in favour
of
the deathpenalty. You will find other statements au contrair.
You are not a Christian.
Well, I am sorry to inform you that most countries in the west with
roots
into Christianity have abolished the deathpenalty as a barbaric
abnormality
unlike the USA who regarding this barbaric act still lives in the dark
ages.
Why? Thou shalled not kill!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
I am sorry but God who gave the commandment to Moses in Exodus 20,13 is
the same God who went on to tell him AT THE SAME VERY MOMENT He told him
he had to expose these to these 10 commandments to them, in Exodus 21,1
"And here are the judiciary decisions that you will have to expose to
them... and He enumerated them, and about this commandment, He the
highest of all, said, in Exodus 21, 12, he who strike a man so that he
dies must be put to death without delay.
That is something you cannot prove.
Of course I can, same time same bush.
One doesn't go without the other, if you believe what the bush said
before you have to believe what it said after.
What is that matter with your brain?
J.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: The "Christian" Blood Cult of GW Bush |
23 Sep 2004 04:45:13 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 03:05:03 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Barbarossa a écrit:
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nope. Christians go by the whole bible.
Nope, Christians follow Jesus Christ who said "maintain the
Commandments"
and who said "he who is without sin casts the first stone" and who said
that
you turn the other cheeck when someone slaps your face etcetera
etcetera.
Nowhere in the new testamony you find a place where Jesus is in favour
of
the deathpenalty. You will find other statements au contrair.
You are not a Christian.
Well, I am sorry to inform you that most countries in the west with
roots
into Christianity have abolished the deathpenalty as a barbaric
abnormality
unlike the USA who regarding this barbaric act still lives in the dark
ages.
Why? Thou shalled not kill!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
I am sorry but God who gave the commandment to Moses in Exodus 20,13 is
the same God who went on to tell him AT THE SAME VERY MOMENT He told him
he had to expose these to these 10 commandments to them, in Exodus 21,1
"And here are the judiciary decisions that you will have to expose to
them... and He enumerated them, and about this commandment, He the
highest of all, said, in Exodus 21, 12, he who strike a man so that he
dies must be put to death without delay.
That is something you cannot prove.
Of course I can, same time same bush.
*****.
One doesn't go without the other, if you believe what the bush said
before you have to believe what it said after.
The bush instructed Moses to go to Pharoah to command him to free the
Israelite slaves. You're a retard.
What is that matter with your brain?
What's the matter with yours?
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| Title: Re: The "Christian" Blood Cult of GW Bush |
23 Sep 2004 05:47:21 AM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 03:05:03 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Barbarossa a écrit:
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:24:22 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:23:10 +0200, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
[miss Barbara Ross total ***** snipped]
(Just to lift the mood.)
George's Heart of Gold
"Please! Don't kill me."
~ George W. Bush
to Larry King, mocking what Karla Faye Tucker said when asked
"What
would you say to Governor Bush?" prior to her execution by
lethal
injection.
Quite a sense of humor, unlike you. LOL
I won't bless that sordid remark with an appropriate answer.
Sick humor, but, then, Carla Fay Tucker was a sick lady!
Barbarossa
seems
to have made her his hobby-horse, but surely he can find someone
more
deserving (?)This woman bragged that killing gave her an orgasm!
The world council of churches and the pope pleaded for her life, so
her
GOD'S LAW SUPERSEDES THEM. Exodus 21,12.
God's law is Thou shalled not kill, so the deathpenalty is a huge
violation
of the Ten Commandments.
It is also its implementation, bozo.
Gee you are an idiot.
Nowhere in the Ten Commandments you find that. The Ten Commandments,
the only thing directly from God states Thou shalled not kill. It does
not
come up with any exceptions. The deathpenalty is a violation of the Ten
Commandments.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nope. Christians go by the whole bible.
Nope, Christians follow Jesus Christ who said "maintain the
Commandments"
and who said "he who is without sin casts the first stone" and who said
that
you turn the other cheeck when someone slaps your face etcetera
etcetera.
Nowhere in the new testamony you find a place where Jesus is in favour
of
the deathpenalty. You will find other statements au contrair.
You are not a Christian.
Well, I am sorry to inform you that most countries in the west with
roots
into Christianity have abolished the deathpenalty as a barbaric
abnormality
unlike the USA who regarding this barbaric act still lives in the dark
ages.
Why? Thou shalled not kill!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
I am sorry but God who gave the commandment to Moses in Exodus 20,13 is
the same God who went on to tell him AT THE SAME VERY MOMENT He told him
he had to expose these to these 10 commandments to them, in Exodus 21,1
"And here are the judiciary decisions that you will have to expose to
them... and He enumerated them, and about this commandment, He the
highest of all, said, in Exodus 21, 12, he who strike a man so that he
dies must be put to death without delay.
That is something you cannot prove.
Of course I can, same time same bush.
*****.
Explain yourself mosquito, it is the same time, same bush in the bible.
What is *****?
Did you read exodus 20 and 21?
J.
One doesn't go without the other, if you believe what the bush said
before you have to believe what it said after.
The bush instructed Moses to go to Pharoah to command him to free the
Israelite slaves. You're a retard.
What is that matter with your brain?
What's the matter with yours?
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