Yes, that is him 'God' who invented/created intelligence, Love, hate, greed,
everything that we experience.
The question is how did he manage to invent and create? and the answer is as
he says in the Good Books, that humans (brains) can only guess, but will be
unable to get
to the truth, they must wait till the day when they shall return back to him
and he will answer all these questions. A quick human answer to this
conundrum is that the space time is much more involved then what human mind
can perceive, concept of space and time may have been pre-programmed into
human
genes, just like operating system 'OS' programs for computer chips.

Extremely intelligent scientist study creation theories, and strife to find
how all this came to be.

As God explains in his Good Book that at first he created the universe then
he decide to create man in his own image, with all those feelings that we
experience, and then he gave man supremacy over rest of the creatures, this
basically sent angels questioning GOD decision, that these human beings are
basically ruled by
their emotional state of mind, so they are bound to end up killing each
other, but still all the
angels gave their word to God to go along with his plan. But there is always
the one, in this case it was Lucifer, it sent him frothing from the mouth
with rage! and Lucifer replied in one
straight answer without altercation that he will not respect inferior
human being who has no control over his own emotions (We are talking here
about God and his most powerful angels, who don't have to go to the
boardroom meetings,as us feeble humans do, as we need more brain power to
discuss/resolve and find solution to
problems, but too many cooks will spoil the broth, because some
act as 'Devils Disciple's'. Also these supreme beings angels have edge on
humans
that they can beam/look right ahead into the future as it will be, without
any
quantum fluctuations). God said to Lucifer; because you have disobeyed my
command you shall parish in hell for a long time. So, then Lucifer begs that
as he has
been sentenced to Hell, so, for such a sever condemnation can he be granted
freedom to approach these feeble
humans till the day when they shall all return back to their God, and by
that time he would turn majority of God's special creation, that feeble
human being
against their creator GOD. So, God replied that his wish is granted! So,
then God teaches Adam few spiritual combat techniques, so that when Adam
wishes? he can call upon God for help :) and then he tells Adam that now he
is ready to go forth
.... and live with Eve in that Garden of Eden for long time (take note of
the word
' for long time', and not as immortal, and this is clause on which Lucifer
cashes
in), and consume what ever he wishes, but never to eat form that forbidden
tree (this is like President telling countrymen that they can cash in as
many blank cheques as they wish, but they should never ever press that
red button).
Genesis 3:1-24. Along comes mighty fallen Angel, and heads for poor Eve,
and most likely he
discloses to her hidden potentials that she possess, and explains to her
that 'Babies are us' will make her and Adam immortals. So, off goes Eve,
selling this idea to Adam, and explains to him about this beautiful Kitchen
they may eventually inherit, so all 13 of them can sit around the table and
cherish the moments, and set themselves free from God's clause.
The rest is history how Adam & Eve got kicked out of heaven, and here we are
after ..... years, hunting for skulls as trophies, by bin full,
just so we can pinpoint the missing link!

Just before God kicked Adam & Eve out of the Kitchen of Eden, he lectured
them, that they and their progeny will eventually return back to him
when earth runs out of fuel to feed them . Then he shall judge humans by
their deeds that they have done on
earth. Those of you who appreciate and praised his
fantastic creation and his work of art, and bowed to no other than him, and
followed his rules will be given place in luxurious Heaven, and those of you
who followed Lucifer will be lost in bewilderness because they chose Lucifer
as their leader.

SO THE GAME WAS SET!

So choose wisely! Prophets come and go, as they warn human race to choose
wisely, but on some occasion when prophets and their disciples push their
luck too far, then Lucifer feels threatened, as he sees his feeble followers
are about to falter, on these occasions he dose tend to turn these feeble
masses against prophets, then eventually heads roll, as Good Book is marked
with
many such occasions/references.

As we can witness around 16th century Lucifer returned from Abyss after 1000
years, see Revelation 20. Since then the amount of fossil fuels being
consumed has increased so many incredible folds. It is ultimate price to pay
for the fortune and luxury that Lucifer has brought to human race, but it is
available and fit for only those who live by his rules 'Survival of the
fittest'. But again as it can be seen that these fuels are running out and
competition to control the resources is dividing human race into
unions/groups to become more powerful & strong as the competition heats-up
to capture and safeguard resources, and to share within and exclude
outsiders, so as to get rid of the dead skin. But in the end, most likely
Group 666 will come out as winner see Revelation 13:18, and everybody else
will get incinerated :( During that period nation
upon nations will be scavengers for dwindling resources, and cry for help
will be loud enough for 7 trumpets to be blown to stop this strange Game of
culling= see
REVELATION 8:6 onwards. At this stage those who sided with Lucifer will find
impossible to turn around because they will lose everything they have worked
for, as heavy sacrifice were made to acquire their goals. But now they will
face full wrath of God, but as it has always been the case, if one cannot
see God
how can one tell if he exist, or just luck and fate, and another natural
phenomena that will go away with time as on many occasions in the past.

As this natural phenomena will start to increase in strength. the universe
as we know will be undone, and Haven and Hell will be
created. see Revelation 21, each person born
of this earth will reap rewards according to how they bartered in their life
time on this earth, it is same as slaving away for pension vouchers for
retirement age, but this time on ultimate grandeur scale. These pension
voucher reward will last far longer then the known age of
the universe, that is to say billions of years of life
of luxury in return for what each human earned in his lifetime form God on
this earth! That is to say quality of the life that each human will be
granted in their next life will depend how they bartered in this life on
this earth.
So, don't be disheartened when you see reckless cruelty to other creature
and humans, as God assures you that all this pain and suffering from hands
of Lucifer and his disciples will be well rewarded. So, if you suffer then
you should try to hold your head high up towards the Lord and cry out his
name, that he is omnipotent, omnipresent,omniscient, listening and watching.

A super intelligent scientist may ask this question; why all this suffering
and pain, is God big time into S&M? the answer is that things may not seem
what they are, either it is one big bad dream, some crazy fact of creation,
as according to 2nd law of thermodynamics out of nothing comes nothing!
On the other hand this is as real as it gets, something terrible went wrong,
it is equivalent to the great wars we experience on earth that mark our
history books. Some of the angels rebelled? their isn't just one Lucifer but
he as whole army with him. But this divine God has made this rule that none
of them will show themselves to humans, that if humans were to see them,
then answer to the life & creation would be solved straightaway, and humans
will stop competing against each other for better life on this earth at
whatever cost, rules of Darwinian species will be frowned upon etc. But,
but, and but, with no answer and lots of guesswork to this question of
faith, this is one of the toughest test of freedom to chose & strength of
wills
that each and every human being will/has ever experienced.
Mind you, animals like dogs to tend to bark into empty space, do they
see/perceive something that human eyes are
unable to see? Do all dogs go to heaven? if dog spoke like humans, could
they have been able to answer the question for once and for all? so close
yet so far?

So, the answer to this Heaven & Hell conundrum is that should humanity opt
for pension vouchers, or end up with a lamp that has run out of fuel, and
jinnee is nowhere to be seen :(


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Below are couple of very interesting articles about human faith, what makes
the
world Tick Tock or click :)
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"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote
in message news:41953003$0$32192$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

The Christian god - is he intelligent?

When the Christian god created the first humans, his highly emotional
reaction to their first case of disobedience was such that it showed a
total lack of understanding as to why his creatures would do such a thing,
not to mention he also appeared to be taken by surprise, which is strange
since he's supposed to be omniscient.
He couldn't understand that humans are curious and independent minded.
This indicates a frightening lack of intelligence on the part of the
Christian god, not to mention a serious lack of control over his emotions.
Instead of reasoning with them, educating them and then giving them a
second chance, his reaction was to immediately throw them out of the
garden and curse all their decedents.
Then, many thousands of years later, instead of forgetting about the
unfortunate incident, he demanded the blood and death of an innocent as
payment for the old misdeed.
He's like a terrorist with a long memory and nothing else to do with his
time.
Then, in a bizarre twist, he allegedly sent his own son, a part of
himself, to die and make the blood payment/ransom to himself - the ransom
he himself set.
First he sets a deadly ransom for a minor misdeed which even a terrorist
wouldn't do, and then he pays for the pointless ransom himself.
Why make a death ransom in the first place?
This god is truly cuckoo.
It's plain to see that this god has no intention of teaching or nurturing
his creations. All he wants to teach humans is how to be mindless and
submissive eternal slaves to worship him and massage his ego.

Only immature, insecure and unconfident minds need constant praise and
attention. Anyone with enough intelligence and just a small amount of
modesty will neither desire nor tolerate any obvious forms of flattery or
praise.
Obvious flattery can be quite offensive and patronising to a superior mind
because to a superior being, a small creature's sanctimonious gestures are
completely transparent, especially when the creature has little or no
understanding or grasp of who or what it is attempting to worship. Subtle
forms of flattery might be considered acceptable but a superior mind
requires no such attention or feedback.
Religious ritual worship is the most obvious form of flattery and
strangely the Christian god laps it up like there's no tomorrow and even
demands it.
He must either not be tremendously intelligent or confident or he must
have a major ego and vanity problem to need that amount of flattery,
praise and glory to keep him happy and powerful.
If he's so great and powerful then he should be able to generate enough
glory by himself.


--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved nor
disproved (agnostic).


"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us." ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)

Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner

----- Original Message -----
From: "Newton Joseph" <drnjoseph@socal.rr.com>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.theology
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: Schizophrenia and Christian Fundamentalism

Schizophrenia and Christian Fundamentalism
By Newton Joseph
This is a Definition of Schizophrenia and some of its symptoms.
Schizophrenia bears an uncanny resemblance to 'Christian fundamentalism'.
These are not my own definitions; They are snipped from recognized medical
sites and medical encyclopedia.

Definition
Any of a group of psychotic disorders usually characterized by
withdrawal from reality, illogical patterns of thinking, delusions, and
hallucinations, and accompanied in varying degrees by other emotional,
behavioral, or intellectual disturbances. Schizophrenia is associated with
dopamine imbalances in the brain and defects of the frontal lobe and is
caused by genetic, other biological, and psychosocial factors.

Symptoms
Delusions
Delusions are false beliefs that are deeply entrenched and
clearly not based in reality and are not consistent with cultural beliefs
or
the persons' level of intelligence and life experiences. Persons cling to
these believes even after the believes are shown to be false.

These false beliefs may be very difficult for family or friends
to understand, since they do not make sense. Again, a delusion seems as
real
to the person as a belief grounded in reality.

Specific Delusions
Bizarre delusions are hallucinations consisting of two or more
voices conversing with each other or of a single voice affecting a
person's
behaviors or thoughts.
. Unworthy Said: - "How do I know God has said anything? I have
heard him speak in an audible voice".
. Phoenix said: - "As I was going about my daily task, the Lord
spoke to me...."
Hallucinations
People with schizophrenia may experience hallucinations. That
is, they may hear, see, feel or smell things that are not there. Just as
in
a dream, where fantastic events can not be distinguished from real events,
hallucinations can not be distinguished from real events. Thus, the
hallucination of a voice talking is perceived in the brain just like a
real
person talking.

Discussions about their objective truth or plausibility of the
hallucinations are not valuable. The experience is true and very vivid to
the patient and has to be accepted as such. Attempts to "set the person
straight" result in resistance, tension, and bad feelings.

Hallucinations are false perceptions or unreal apparitions.
They
do not correspond to the stimuli that is present and have no basis in
reality. You have to remember that what is an hallucination in one
culture,
is not in another.

'Ray of light' believes he can fly around outside of his
physical body.

disorganized speech or behavior
A person with schizophrenia may have disorganized speech or
behavior; so that what they do or say does not make much sense.

Read any post made by 'Young'.

Preoccupations
These are fixed ideas, not necessarily false (like delusions)
but overvalued. That means they take on extraordinary importance and take
up
an inordinate amount of thought time.

One idea often returns and returns. Frequently it is a worry
about doing the right thing or doing it well or doing it in time.
Characteristically, the worry grows and becomes unrealistic. A common
sequence of events is for the worry to take up so much of a person's time
that the "right thing" does not get done and its not being done is then
attributed to the bad motives of others. Or it may be rationalized as
God's
wish.

These kinds of explanations sound odd to others but to the
patient they seem warranted. He does not understand why others see them
merely as "excuses." To him they explain the facts better than any other
explanation he can think of.

Sometimes these preoccupations have a mystifying character to
them. They seem to require puzzling over and decoding. The schizophrenic
patient spends much time in this kind of activity and that is why he
thinks
he has solved mysteries that others haven't, since they have spent no time
at it.

Denial of illness
Some individuals are able to admit to themselves that they
could
ever be deficient or vulnerable in any way. Most illnesses that start in
late adolescence tend to be denied because adolescence is a time when
deficiencies are hard to accept. The problem of illness denial is that it
makes treatment impossible. This is true of all illnesses that require
treatment and is not specific for schizophrenia. Since lack of treatment
in
schizophrenia can have serious consequences, families need to be
especially
firm about this.

Schizophrenic Symptoms are continuous and persistent

Secondary symptoms (Mechanisms patients may develop to cope
with
fundamental symptoms).

Hallucinations, Paranoid ideation, Grandiosity. argumentative,
Superiority complex, inappropriate laughter.

This describes chic-n-little perfectly. chic even types
"*laughin*" at the end of many sentences regardless of the absence of
humor.

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