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Date: 10 Apr 2005 07:52:37 PM
Object: The Christian Right's fundamental problem
The Christian Right's fundamental problem
If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.
By Terry Lane
04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?
There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.
First, it is a precondition of the return of Jesus that all Jews return
to Israel and that the territory of that country should coincide with
that promised to Abraham by God. Until Israel retakes its promised
land, expels all the Arabs and welcomes back all the Jews of the
diaspora, Jesus can't come.
The so-called Christian Zionists are influential. According to The
Christian Science Monitor they "have access to the White House and
strong support within Congress, including the backing of the two most
recent majority leaders in the House of Representatives". In Genesis,
God promises Abraham all the land "from the river of Egypt to the great
river Euphrates", an area which includes a part of Egypt, a large slice
of Iraq and Syria, not to mention all the land from the Mediterranean
to the Jordan River. There is no room for Arabs in this promised land.
Village Voice reporter Rick Perlstein came into possession of "an email
we weren't meant to see" describing a meeting between the extremist
Apostolic Congress and the National Security Council director for Near
East and North African Affairs, Elliott Abrams.
Calling itself the Christian voice of the nation's capital, the
Apostolic Congress opposes the withdrawal of Israeli settlements from
Gaza because it opposes the surrender of any of the territory God
promised to the Jews. Three weeks after the meeting President George
Bush changed US policy and approved expansion of Israeli settlements in
the West Bank. Apostolic Congress leader Pastor Robert Upton boasts:
"We're in constant contact with the White House. I am briefed at least
once a week."
As the peace of the world twists around the territorial war between
Jews and Arabs, and as it is Australian Government policy to follow the
US wherever it goes, we are certainly affected by American Middle East
policy. And if that policy is based on ancient superstition we are
entitled to be alarmed.
There is more. Forty-five senators and 186 representatives in Congress
get the seal of approval from Christian right-wing advocacy groups that
compile a legislative scorecard on politicians. The same legislators
get the lowest scores on the cards compiled by the League of
Conservation Voters. In other words the majority of US politicians are
indifferent to the future of the planet. And why should they care?
If you expect Jesus to come at any minute then the planet has already
served its purpose. God provided just enough of everything, from clean
air to oil, to last humankind from creation to Armageddon. In fact the
degradation of the life systems of the planet is to be welcomed because
it is another harbinger of the end of time.
As Australian environmental policy is also made in Washington it is
clear that the bizarre beliefs of a highly motivated, rock-solid voting
bloc of between 40 million and 70 million American voters who believe
that the universe was created on October 23, 4004 BC, at 9am and is
about to be destroyed in an apocalyptic conflagration matters to us.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8500.htm
.

User: "Doc"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 11 Apr 2005 04:09:35 AM
"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.

First, it is a precondition of the return of Jesus that all Jews return
to Israel and that the territory of that country should coincide with
that promised to Abraham by God. Until Israel retakes its promised
land, expels all the Arabs and welcomes back all the Jews of the
diaspora, Jesus can't come.

The so-called Christian Zionists are influential. According to The
Christian Science Monitor they "have access to the White House and
strong support within Congress, including the backing of the two most
recent majority leaders in the House of Representatives". In Genesis,
God promises Abraham all the land "from the river of Egypt to the great
river Euphrates", an area which includes a part of Egypt, a large slice
of Iraq and Syria, not to mention all the land from the Mediterranean
to the Jordan River. There is no room for Arabs in this promised land.

Village Voice reporter Rick Perlstein came into possession of "an email
we weren't meant to see" describing a meeting between the extremist
Apostolic Congress and the National Security Council director for Near
East and North African Affairs, Elliott Abrams.

Calling itself the Christian voice of the nation's capital, the
Apostolic Congress opposes the withdrawal of Israeli settlements from
Gaza because it opposes the surrender of any of the territory God
promised to the Jews. Three weeks after the meeting President George
Bush changed US policy and approved expansion of Israeli settlements in
the West Bank. Apostolic Congress leader Pastor Robert Upton boasts:
"We're in constant contact with the White House. I am briefed at least
once a week."

As the peace of the world twists around the territorial war between
Jews and Arabs, and as it is Australian Government policy to follow the
US wherever it goes, we are certainly affected by American Middle East
policy. And if that policy is based on ancient superstition we are
entitled to be alarmed.

There is more. Forty-five senators and 186 representatives in Congress
get the seal of approval from Christian right-wing advocacy groups that
compile a legislative scorecard on politicians. The same legislators
get the lowest scores on the cards compiled by the League of
Conservation Voters. In other words the majority of US politicians are
indifferent to the future of the planet. And why should they care?

If you expect Jesus to come at any minute then the planet has already
served its purpose. God provided just enough of everything, from clean
air to oil, to last humankind from creation to Armageddon. In fact the
degradation of the life systems of the planet is to be welcomed because
it is another harbinger of the end of time.

As Australian environmental policy is also made in Washington it is
clear that the bizarre beliefs of a highly motivated, rock-solid voting
bloc of between 40 million and 70 million American voters who believe
that the universe was created on October 23, 4004 BC, at 9am and is
about to be destroyed in an apocalyptic conflagration matters to us.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8500.htm

Yup. Many Christians still claim their interpretation of the Bible is
correct, and that it indicates homo sapiens can't be more than 6,000 years
old.
Another entry in Ripley's Believe It Or Not...or it should be.
Doc



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User: ""

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 11 Apr 2005 08:24:47 AM

"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.

You hate for Christians is quite apparent.
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 11 Apr 2005 08:26:52 AM
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.

Only to a fat, steroid crazed paranoid psychopath like you. Where does the
poster express hate for Christians?


Tony

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User: "Ralph Kramden"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 12:32:34 AM
wrote:


"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.

Tony

Lucky for you, you're not a Christian. Or else you'd be the most hated
***** in this group.
.

User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 05:42:47 AM
wrote:

"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.



You hate for Christians is quite apparent.

Tony

There's different flavours of Christianity.
The Fundies are the most troublesome.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 09:16:41 AM
Marvin The Gay Clown wrote:

itwill@happen.com wrote:

"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.

You hate for Christians is quite apparent.
Tony

There's different flavours of Christianity.
The Fundies are the most troublesome.

In other words if they don't agree with you they're no good.
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 09:39:32 AM
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
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Marvin The Gay Clown wrote:

itwill@happen.com wrote:

"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.

That's

a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the

second

coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.


Tony


There's different flavours of Christianity.


The Fundies are the most troublesome.


In other words if they don't agree with you they're no good.

You really can't read can you?


Tony

.
User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 11:58:01 AM
tw wrote:

<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
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Marvin The Gay Clown wrote:


itwill@happen.com wrote:

<snip>

You hate for Christians is quite apparent.


Tony


There's different flavours of Christianity.


The Fundies are the most troublesome.


In other words if they don't agree with you they're no good.



You really can't read can you?

It's 'Straw Man Day'.
.




User: "Henning Larsen"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 05:29:28 AM
itwill@happen.com, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr 2005 13:24:47 GMT:


"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.

Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite apparent.
--
H.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 09:14:44 AM
Mr. Larsen wrote:

itwill@happen.com, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr 2005 13:24:47 GMT:


"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.

Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite apparent.

Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 12 Apr 2005 09:32:25 AM
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113315172.1e9b06045ae600f55c626eda0a023f9a@teranews...

Mr. Larsen wrote:

itwill@happen.com, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr 2005

13:24:47 GMT:



"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.

That's

a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign

policy.


By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the

second

coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian

fundamentalists

near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.


Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite apparent.


Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.

Hardly. Myself and Jane can disagree without expressing hatred for each
other, you fat turdiot.


Tony

.
User: ""

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 13 Apr 2005 09:18:30 AM
TW wrote:

<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113315172.1e9b06045ae600f55c626eda0a023f9a@teranews...

Mr. Larsen wrote:

itwill@happen.com, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr 2005

13:24:47 GMT:



"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.

That's

a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign

policy.


By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the

second

coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian

fundamentalists

near the levers of power in imperial America.

You hate for Christians is quite apparent.

Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite apparent.

Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.

Hardly. Myself and Jane can disagree without expressing hatred for each
other,

Yeah? Just wait until she actually stands up and speaks her mind.
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 13 Apr 2005 09:17:26 AM
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
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TW wrote:

<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113315172.1e9b06045ae600f55c626eda0a023f9a@teranews...

Mr. Larsen wrote:

itwill@happen.com, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr

2005

13:24:47 GMT:



"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.

That's

a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign

policy.


By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70

million

Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the

second

coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian

fundamentalists

near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.


Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite

apparent.


Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.


Hardly. Myself and Jane can disagree without expressing hatred for each
other,


Yeah

Glad you agree. And thereby admit you are wrong, again..
.

User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 13 Apr 2005 07:04:09 PM
wrote:

TW wrote:


<

> wrote in message
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Mr. Larsen wrote:


, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr 2005


13:24:47 GMT:

"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.


That's

a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign


policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the


second

coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian


fundamentalists

near the levers of power in imperial America.



You hate for Christians is quite apparent.



Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite apparent.



Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.



Hardly. Myself and Jane can disagree without expressing hatred for each
other,



Yeah? Just wait until she actually stands up and speaks her mind.

You're saying she hasn't?
-A
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 15 Apr 2005 06:34:26 AM
Amy The Obsessed Man-Lady wrote:

itwill@happen.com wrote:

TW wrote:


<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113315172.1e9b06045ae600f55c626eda0a023f9a@teranews...

Mr. Larsen wrote:


itwill@happen.com, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr 2005


13:24:47 GMT:

"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.


That's

a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign


policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the


second

coming of Jesus is imminent?
There are two consequences of having so many Christian

fundamentalists

near the levers of power in imperial America.

You hate for Christians is quite apparent.

Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite apparent.

Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.

Hardly. Myself and Jane can disagree without expressing hatred for each
other,

Yeah? Just wait until she actually stands up and speaks her mind.

You're saying she hasn't?
-A

She used to, but she's been intimidated into holding her tongue.
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 15 Apr 2005 06:39:42 AM
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
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Amy The Obsessed Man-Lady wrote:

itwill@happen.com wrote:

TW wrote:


<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113315172.1e9b06045ae600f55c626eda0a023f9a@teranews...

Mr. Larsen wrote:


itwill@happen.com, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr

2005


13:24:47 GMT:

"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.


That's

a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign


policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70

million

Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the


second

coming of Jesus is imminent?


There are two consequences of having so many Christian


fundamentalists


near the levers of power in imperial America.


You hate for Christians is quite apparent.


Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite

apparent.


Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.


Hardly. Myself and Jane can disagree without expressing hatred for each
other,


Yeah? Just wait until she actually stands up and speaks her mind.


You're saying she hasn't?


-A


She used to, but she's been intimidated into holding her tongue.

LOL! What on earth makes yuo think that, bitchtits? Why not ask Jane
herself?


Tony

.

User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 15 Apr 2005 07:15:22 AM
wrote:

Amy The Obsessed Man-Lady wrote:


wrote:

TW wrote:



<

> wrote in message
news:1113315172.1e9b06045ae600f55c626eda0a023f9a@teranews...


Mr. Larsen wrote:



, wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, ma, 11 apr 2005


13:24:47 GMT:


"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rTj6e.1617$MZ2.196111@news20.bellglobal.com...


The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet.


That's


a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign


policy.


By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the


second


coming of Jesus is imminent?



There are two consequences of having so many Christian



fundamentalists



near the levers of power in imperial America.



You hate for Christians is quite apparent.



Your hate for people with other opinions than yourself is quite apparent.



Gee, then I fit right in with the rest of the people here.



Hardly. Myself and Jane can disagree without expressing hatred for each
other,



Yeah? Just wait until she actually stands up and speaks her mind.



You're saying she hasn't?



-A



She used to,

Really? Several posts from Jane in the last 24 hours.

but she's been intimidated into holding her tongue.

Really? The woman obviously can speak for herself without your "manly"
guidance and protection. I'm sure you wish that it weren't so.
-A
.









User: "Charly the Bastard"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 14 Apr 2005 08:36:21 AM
MonsieurStat wrote:

The Christian Right's fundamental problem

If you believe in Armageddon, you don't need to save the planet. That's
a concern if you also influence the White House and US foreign policy.

By Terry Lane

04/10/05 "The Age" - - Does it matter to us that there are 70 million
Bible-believing, born-again Christians in the US who believe the second
coming of Jesus is imminent?

There are two consequences of having so many Christian fundamentalists
near the levers of power in imperial America.

First, it is a precondition of the return of Jesus that all Jews return
to Israel and that the territory of that country should coincide with
that promised to Abraham by God. Until Israel retakes its promised
land, expels all the Arabs and welcomes back all the Jews of the
diaspora, Jesus can't come.

The so-called Christian Zionists are influential. According to The
Christian Science Monitor they "have access to the White House and
strong support within Congress, including the backing of the two most
recent majority leaders in the House of Representatives". In Genesis,
God promises Abraham all the land "from the river of Egypt to the great
river Euphrates", an area which includes a part of Egypt, a large slice
of Iraq and Syria, not to mention all the land from the Mediterranean
to the Jordan River. There is no room for Arabs in this promised land.

Village Voice reporter Rick Perlstein came into possession of "an email
we weren't meant to see" describing a meeting between the extremist
Apostolic Congress and the National Security Council director for Near
East and North African Affairs, Elliott Abrams.

Calling itself the Christian voice of the nation's capital, the
Apostolic Congress opposes the withdrawal of Israeli settlements from
Gaza because it opposes the surrender of any of the territory God
promised to the Jews. Three weeks after the meeting President George
Bush changed US policy and approved expansion of Israeli settlements in
the West Bank. Apostolic Congress leader Pastor Robert Upton boasts:
"We're in constant contact with the White House. I am briefed at least
once a week."

As the peace of the world twists around the territorial war between
Jews and Arabs, and as it is Australian Government policy to follow the
US wherever it goes, we are certainly affected by American Middle East
policy. And if that policy is based on ancient superstition we are
entitled to be alarmed.

There is more. Forty-five senators and 186 representatives in Congress
get the seal of approval from Christian right-wing advocacy groups that
compile a legislative scorecard on politicians. The same legislators
get the lowest scores on the cards compiled by the League of
Conservation Voters. In other words the majority of US politicians are
indifferent to the future of the planet. And why should they care?

If you expect Jesus to come at any minute then the planet has already
served its purpose. God provided just enough of everything, from clean
air to oil, to last humankind from creation to Armageddon. In fact the
degradation of the life systems of the planet is to be welcomed because
it is another harbinger of the end of time.

As Australian environmental policy is also made in Washington it is
clear that the bizarre beliefs of a highly motivated, rock-solid voting
bloc of between 40 million and 70 million American voters who believe
that the universe was created on October 23, 4004 BC, at 9am and is
about to be destroyed in an apocalyptic conflagration matters to us.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8500.htm

It's not the 'Jesus is Coming Back' thing, it's the 'I'm going to be
Ruptured out and not have to go through all this horrendous crap like all
those Unbelievers' thing. This is the seed of the arrogance that drives
the movement. If 'they' thought that the only way was the Path of the
Martyr, they wouldn't be so hot to bring on the Tribulation.
Charly
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 15 Apr 2005 06:35:47 AM
Chalry The Bastrard wrote:

It's not the 'Jesus is Coming Back' thing, it's the 'I'm going to be
Ruptured out and not have to go through all this horrendous crap like all
those Unbelievers' thing. This is the seed of the arrogance that drives
the movement. If 'they' thought that the only way was the Path of the
Martyr, they wouldn't be so hot to bring on the Tribulation.
Charly

The question is, where will you stand when he returns?
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 15 Apr 2005 06:40:18 AM
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113564826.3a5ea10cc302fbcedc915eb172b9d901@teranews...

Chalry The Bastrard wrote:

It's not the 'Jesus is Coming Back' thing, it's the 'I'm going to be
Ruptured out and not have to go through all this horrendous crap like all
those Unbelievers' thing. This is the seed of the arrogance that drives
the movement. If 'they' thought that the only way was the Path of the
Martyr, they wouldn't be so hot to bring on the Tribulation.


Charly


The question is, where will you stand when he returns?

Tony

He isn't, bitchtits. It's just a story (and a moneyspinner)
.

User: "Charly the Bastard"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 15 Apr 2005 07:11:20 AM
wrote:

Chalry The Bastrard wrote:

It's not the 'Jesus is Coming Back' thing, it's the 'I'm going to be
Ruptured out and not have to go through all this horrendous crap like all
those Unbelievers' thing. This is the seed of the arrogance that drives
the movement. If 'they' thought that the only way was the Path of the
Martyr, they wouldn't be so hot to bring on the Tribulation.


Charly


The question is, where will you stand when he returns?

Tony

I'm a draftee, I stand where ordered to stand. No one in their right mind
would volunteer for this duty.
Charly
.
User: "Charly the Bastard"

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 16 May 2005 08:09:18 AM
Charly the ***** wrote:

itwill@happen.com wrote:

Chalry The Bastrard wrote:

It's not the 'Jesus is Coming Back' thing, it's the 'I'm going to be
Ruptured out and not have to go through all this horrendous crap like all
those Unbelievers' thing. This is the seed of the arrogance that drives
the movement. If 'they' thought that the only way was the Path of the
Martyr, they wouldn't be so hot to bring on the Tribulation.


Charly


The question is, where will you stand when he returns?

Tony


I'm a draftee, I stand where ordered to stand. No one in their right mind
would volunteer for this duty.

Charly

You know, after thimking about this, I think the thing that pisses me off the
most about Fundies is their arrogant presumption that my soul needs saving and
they're personally the ones 'Called by God' to do the task. Get the boulder out
of your own eye before you go digging for the speck in mine.
.




User: ""

Title: Re: The Christian Right's fundamental problem 14 Apr 2005 05:42:57 PM
One has to laugh Terry is one rather good interviewer, and his insights
are well informative.
But he is definitely right, only problem is it is not the fundie right,
it is the elected ones belief in own their divine mission that is so
scary.
Talk about lunatic in charge of the asylum with all those foxes in the
henhouse, why don['t they call it the foxhouse.
Too bad the god they worship is Mammon.
LB
The history books tell it (they tell it so well)
.


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